The Open Source Financial Year in Review 58
Normally I avoid stories about the businessy side of the whole
Open Source thing, but november sent us a pretty good year in review documenting the highlights (IPOs, Mergers, and Bandwagons, oh my) jokingly concluding that Open Source was simply IBM's revenge on Microsoft for screwing them on OS/2. Its a surprisingly good story, and worth a read.
Revenge on Microsoft (Score:1)
Re:CNN didn't like open source much (Score:1)
It is my personal opinion that you will see the hardware vendors release there own distros eventually and I think this is the best solution. The companies make their revenues from hardware and there is no licensing fee for an open source operating system. The community helps in building the OS that they desire and the hardware vendors are not chained to a proprietary OS vendor that calls the shots. I think an open OS is a win-win situation for all parties. As far as other software it really doesn't matter to me if it is open or closed. But as for the OS it has been proven that if you control the OS you control the software industry. I see an open OS as a balance of power.
Now, on to address to the first community I spoke of in the first paragraph. If you whinny morons want to bitch about open source being a communist idea. I suggest you look at the underlining idealism behind open source. Open source developers do not provide their contributions to a project for the betterment of society as a whole. They provide it to learn and teach. Much the same way as medical journals provide new techniques and ideas from members of its community. Open source projects are nothing more than professional journals by example. Don't worry your job security is safe and you won't have to go back to school due to the fact that open source took over. You can look at your MCSE and still see the green dollars that it brings. My suggestion to the members of this community is that you try to understand open source and look at the code of some of the projects you may very well improve you viability as a company asset due to the new ideas and techniques you learn.
HEY! (Score:1)
Linux stocks are now officially in the tank. Both VA Linux and Red Hat plow through their 52-week lows. Privately held Turbo Linux, meanwhile, says it wants to float an IPO. Go figure.
I wonder why Slashdot didn't.
Oh...Nevermind.
Re:It is most impressive! (Score:1)
Re:The cancer of disillusionment is spreading (Score:1)
Re:What a joke! Omissions, omissions, omissions... (Score:1)
Perhaps you work for Upside...
What a joke! Omissions, omissions, omissions... (Score:1)
Yet another example of "I don't understand Linux so I'll just write about the two or three companies I'm familiar with" journalism. I'm starting to grow numb to it (I guess not fast enough, though).
If you want a good, complete wrap up of 2000, go to Linux Weekly News and check out their timeline. Upside's wrap up is a slapped together piece of journalistic guano.
Re:the real financial story... (Score:1)
Methinks you are right. It has to do with the infrastructure that is necessary for business-to-business to be viable on tomorrow's hardware. Compare the credibility of SuSE Linux (or Red Hat Linux or
Re:Makes you think (Score:1)
Now they're looking for something that will actually stand a chance to fight, as the public isn't as dumb as to buy inflated stock in the 'I want my millions for nothing' type companies.
Re:help me make money from open source (Score:1)
"Hello, we have heard that you know something about doing everything out of nothing. Me and my friends have developed something, which is actually nothing, and we would like to get at least anything in return. So, could you please help me with something to do anything not to get nothing out of it. TIA"
What have you developed? Is it a Beer-glass-and-coffee-mug-in-one magic driver for anything-that-has-anytype-connector? Or maybe it is a publishing-which-is-a-simple-writing-for-document
I hope I have made my point
Re:CNN didn't like open source much (Score:1)
Re:CNN didn't like open source much (Score:1)
Re:The cancer of disillusionment is spreading (Score:1)
Good and evil in everything.
Re:HEY! (Score:1)
Re:the real financial story... (Score:1)
Honestly, I don't know the answer but can't you feel it. I sure as hell know that I can, I can
BTW has anyone else forgotten about the _fun_ of open source. Shit, I didn't get into this stuff for money, I'm still having fun!!
Re:CNN didn't like open source much (Score:1)
My first thought is "Why is this posted under AC? maybe there are other valid reasons, but I can only think of two.
1) You believe in personal integrity and the intrinsic value of your words and as such eschew the obvious benefit of the karma bonuses such a well-written essay would bring as a basic part of your philosophy. A variation on this might be: "I don't need no stinking karma".
2) You would rather not have to deal with the realities associated with having a firm opinion. You wrote this and then realized that it could get you fired, in other words. Or hunted by the FBI who owes Bill Gates a favor.
It made me think of the original Open Source model. The one I was taught in grade school. The Scientific Method. I learned in school that there existed a transcendent philosophy among the community of scientists that realized that the way to ensure maximum technological progress and scientific advancement is to share ideas freely. You mention the medical community: I count them as part of the larger whole of Scientists. Of course in my youthful inexperience I idealized the relationship among Scientists and truly imagined them above petty dollar-mongering. Now I know that scientists can be bought; some are even Science whores. Some of the Global Warming 'experts' come to mind. And they besmirch the once good name of Science.
Now, the Open Source community is a lot like the Science community of my idealized vision. It is my opinion that in this post-cold-war, corporate power structure of the present, Open Source people may be viewed as heretical to the Business Model that is beginning to predominate in the Internet world, or at least annoying and not very profitable or as a consequence useful to the new power brokers, the Companies. Witness how the open Scientific Community is becoming Closed, with patents arriving before discoveries. I am thinking particularly of the genetics industry.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of Open Source. But does Big Business? It's clear from the referenced article that they don't understand or have an appreciation for idealists. None at all. There is no room for Idealism in the Corporate BoardRoom.
Finally, users don't care about operating systems until they crash. Or, as in the case of M$, annoy. Much to Bill Gates' grief, the best OS is a Commoditized OS. Your comment about 'who controls the OS controls the industry' rings very true, indeed.
The next US administration would do well to heed that point!
Unfortunately, that party maintains as its philosophy that what is good for business is good for the country, as so will not press hard on the Department of Justice to break up the current 800-pound gorilla that is sitting on all Open Source projects and squeezing the life out of them.
Imagine the Taft administration allowing Standard Oil and Ford Motor to merge, producing a proprietary gasoline that only Ford cars could operate on.
Um, that's the best analogy I could come up with tonight, but I hope you get my point-...
Makes you think (Score:1)
Is sensationalism the only thing we care about? (Score:1)
The smackdown cometh. When U.S. Judge Thomas Penfieldd Jackson rules against Microsoft
Since when did respectable reporters use the phrase "smackdown cometh"? I expect this type of shoddy journalism with no regard to anything but sensationalism from Slashdot. But I'd like my real news sources to have a little dignity. Is that too much to ask?
Steven
Income and open source (Score:1)
It is easy to see that one can generate revenue by selling a packaged build, complete with documentation and support. But to be honest, the wealth is generated purely by activities unrelated to programming. Because anyone can acquire the code and build it themselves, that piece is removed from the economic equation. The end user is buying ease of use, tech support, and a brand name, not software.
So from the point of view of an engineer, I have to wonder what's in it for me, economically speaking that is. Of course I delight in the tantalizing notion that I've written something compelling, but that anyone who wants to improve it must also release their code. It's beautiful. But karma -- if you'll excuse the regrettable non-slashdot use of the word -- does not translate into income.
I am currently in a situation where a software solution is required, and an open source project is proving to be a good foundation for getting a head start on the engineering. I revel in the ability to base a commercial piece off of an open source library, and I enjoy that I'm getting paid to develop code to be released back into the wild. But I am unable to kid myself that if this piece of software were crucial to generating revenue and differentiating ourselves from our competition we would still be basing it on GPL code. The very fact that I can use it and release the result indicates that this code is not generating income, and thus it is not generating my salary.
If an entire product were to be developed open source and marketed -- much like Linux -- the economic advantage would necessarily have to be in marketing, since the software is factored out as a differentiator. Where does that leave engineers?
-- ShadyG
Re:the real financial story... (Score:1)
Because we need money to fight bad laws. (Score:1)
As with any business, traditional companies lobby, both in court and in the legislature, for laws to protect their interests. Often the laws these companies advocate hinder open source software development, or are otherwise antithetical to the values of many members of the open source community. Among the legal defeats that the open source ommunity has suffered:
Non-profit organizations that help defend our online freedoms, such as the Electronic Frontier Foundation [eff.org], League for Programming Freedom [mit.edu], the Free Software Foundation [fsf.org], and the ACLU [aclu.org] get their funds from companies and individuals who share values with them, e.g. open source companies and programmers. If the individuals and companies sympathetic to these organizations are impoverished or go bankrupt, the non-profits can't effectively fight for the freedoms we want.
Why do we want this? (Score:1)
What open source is (and is not) good for (Score:1)
Why is it good for these types of applications? Because the markets are huge, and even if you can't make money directly, you can make a name for yourself and gain tremendous influence and/or future income potential.
Consider Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman. I'm sure they love what they do, but do you think they would have done it if they had to remain anonymous? Where do you suppose Torvalds would be today if he had tried to "sell" Linux the conventional way? And do you think Stallman doesn't try to use the influence he has earned when he broadcasts his technical and political opinions?
Open source will never be appropriate for niche or custom software--at least not until the niche has been filled for some time with conventional commercial software. Programmers have to get paid somehow, whether it be with actual money or with recognition. The latter translates into influence and/or future income potential.
Re:HEY! (Score:1)
Re:Open Source companies (Score:1)
Re:the real financial story... (Score:1)
When you are a public company you have a responsiblilty to the shareholders to make money. You owe them. So when your dad's pension fund (i assume you're 12 years old) invests in a company's stock and it tanks because the company doesn't care about making money, your dad gets fucked.
Dumb companies hurt everyone.
Re:the real financial story... (Score:1)
I realize that's a bit lengthy, but it sums it up so well.
This guy is a business associate of mine, and said he invites you to e-mail him if you would like to "talk shop". I wanted to write a nice little rant about this, but I don't think I could have written one that says it as well as he did.
Re:CNN didn't like open source much (Score:1)
Re:the real financial story... (Score:1)
Open Source might not need financial success (that is debatable), but IBM, as a public FOR-PROFIT company, sure does.
Wrong pal... (Score:1)
Think about one of the major reasons the internet failed to make money.
The last time I checked, the internet was making money. In fact, with companies like Amazon.com paving the way for other companies shifting towards online sales. If the internet wasn't making money then why are so many companies earn profits from it. One could go on all day of the various examples of companies making a killing in the Internet business (a.k.a. e-Commerce). Although there have been and still are companies that flop (fail), there are enough of them that are successful that make it a worthwhile venture.
Now to address Open Source, true it's not the best business plan, but it sure does give the ability for people, outside the company, to make signficant additions/changes to the the open source program (i.e. Linux/Unix). This makes it a huge advantage over companies that don't do open source (MS).
Project: To Take Over The World
Re:The cancer of disillusionment is spreading (Score:1)
I suppose that popularity has brought in undesirables to the community, but I would bet that for every disillussioned old timer there are sveral enthusiastic newbies (like me;). I don't think that Linux will suffer too much - ultimately everybody is committed to it, despite doctrinal differences, and everyone remembers or has read about the 'Unix Wars' of the Eighties. Also, the Linux community is paranoid about splitting. I see a lot more people talking about a split and fearing it than I do people advocating one. I just don't think its *too* great a concern, in the long run ;)
It is most impressive! (Score:1)
I only hope that the smaller Open Source companies survive the push by IBM and the rest - I don't want to see us lose any diversity at all! But I am glad that things seem to be succesful so far. I wish I could get a job in a Linux company :-)
Re:What about RMS? (Score:1)
Karma Whore - Haha! Thats really funny, actually.
Thanks, and sorry if I seemed a bit condescending!
Re:The cancer of disillusionment is spreading (Score:1)
I just don't see much evidence of genuine dislike in the Linux Community, but then you probably know more than I do - I am not Au Fait with the mailing lists you mention, for one! Perhaps I shall look into them though, Linux gurus mention them often, I have noticed :o)
CNN didn't like open source much (Score:2)
Re:Capitalism is incompatible with GPL (Score:2)
Re:Think about it long term (Score:2)
If they were in a monopoly position, that incentive would no longer exist. It would instead be their revenue stream dictating how to respond.
I actually rather doubt that the support services, even Consulting Services at Microsoft supply more revenue than their software sales.
Yes, they do make some money off of that support, but it isn't their primary source of income.
I also don't feel it should be any companies source of income. Look at some of the really big boondoogles like SAP, Peoplesoft, etc. They see most of their revenue coming from services.
These are also software packages that end up costing multiple millions to install at a company, and if you've ever had the chance to see them in operation... the quality sucks.
I think it's an exceptionally bad business model, at least from a consumer standpoint.
Re:What about RMS? (Score:2)
Actually they aren't in the crapper yet, as long as they still have a value above $1 they are listed on NASDAQ.
RedHat = VAR (Score:2)
They anticipate making money by selling integration and customization services.
The difference is just the amount of overhead. RedHat has choosen to take on all the overhead of developing the software, whereas most VAR's pass this on to a third company.
They could possibly make money, although they'll never be as profitable as a old-world solutions provider/VAR. Unless they can somehow make it up in volume, which again seems unlikely.
Unfortunately the whole market for consulting services and such has gone downhill since Y2K. I don't know if it will recover or not.
I think RedHat is likely doomed, long term.
VA Linux on the other hand is just a computer reseller. That's not a good market right now either, and the only way to succeed is to keep overhead low and volume high.
Bu again, VA Linux has to front the bill for the software development, whereas most companies pass this on to third parties.
We'll see.
Re:Think about it long term (Score:2)
Your duty to your stock holders is for the company to make money.
You have a choice:
- Make the software easy to use and bug free, thus making customers happy because it requires less support.
- Leverage your software to increase your support services by making it difficult to use, install, and buggy as hell.
There is a contradiction in this mix.
Microsoft has encouragement to improve the quality of their software because support services add to their overhead. They would prefer it if you did not call them asking all kinds of dumb questions.
Long term I would prefer to see a software world which did not require support services. I don't have to purchase a support contract to use my car, my VCR or my microwave. Why should I to use my computer?
I believe that's the vision that Microsoft has, it is obviously not the vision that Redhat has.
Re:What about RMS? (Score:2)
I know that would suck from my point of view.
Re:Think about it long term (Score:2)
I agree somewhat with your viewpoint, but think you might be going a little overboard. I think it might be more appropriate to say that Red Hat is possibly not as motivated to make things intuitive because of the support revenue. However, I doubt they're intentionally making the software buggy or hard to use. It's probably reasonably to say that there's potential for conflict of interest.
Microsoft has encouragement to improve the quality of their software because support services add to their overhead
Depends on the situation. For consumers, yes, it is a burder. For businesses, it's called "professional services," which brings in big bucks.
- Scott
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Scott Stevenson
Re:Hang on a minute... (Score:2)
Nothing could be more free than water, yet companies filter it, bottle it, flavor it and sell water for outrageous sums.
Meditate on this and perhaps you will see that the idea of selling that which is free is not so odd after all.
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help me make money from open source (Score:2)
We want adequate compensation for the time and creativity that went into it. Open sourcing doesn't seem to make sense, from the point of view of making money - unless you were redhat and could just resell something that was already done (with relatively little developmental expense on your part).
Wise sages of Slashdot, teach us how we can open source it and still make the money we think we deserve.
Think about it long term (Score:2)
Red Hat et all give the software for free but they charge for support. Corporations save money on incredible expensive licenses and can instead spend it on real support.
The internet keeps getting faster, at about doble the speed per year... freenet or maybe some other not yet known programs will make it easy to download free soft. Big soft corps like MSFT keep losing sales to those free downloads. The faster the internet gets, the more business they lose... etc etc.
20 years from now all the money will be on support.
Open source is a win for hardware companies (Score:2)
I wonder who'll end up owning SourceForge. Or Slashdot.
Still, RHAT and LNUX may be around for a while. They both got so much cash out of their ridiculous IPOs they can coast for quite a while longer. Neither is on Downside's Deathwatch [downside.com], even though the stock is in the tank.
Re:Linux over the year (Score:2)
If nothing else it takes advantadge of all the ill-will the MS has developed for itself over the years. It is like seeing people sitting on the sidewalk with signs that say "will work for free if it screws Microsoft"
The bad blood between the two companies is lengendary. IBM was developing OS/2 in cahoots with MS, and then MS wanted out, keeping many of their "better" technologies to themselves, and jumping into the market earlier.
[I am really fuzzy on the critical details, but I'm sure these are documented well enough around the web, etc.]
Re:The cancer of disillusionment is spreading (Score:2)
At present I'm more worried about the poison of cynicism and bitterness spreading at the grass root level with no apparent reason. The feeling I get when I read Debian and linux kernel mailing lists as well as Slashdot is that of the paradise lost; something's wrong but you can't quite say what it is. It's like on a beautiful summer day when you suddenly feel the coming storm in the air even before the clouds themselves appear in the horizon.
What I am afraid of is that like so many fine and noble movements in the history, this one too will fall victim to internal strife and bickering over money, power and prestige and eventually come to nothing -- destroyed from within like Camelot.
Re:Hang on a minute... (Score:2)
I'm not an Ayn Rand zombie but I think she pegged this part of human nature correctly. People love collectivist schemes in large part because at some level they believe they're the ones who are going to profit at someone else's expense.
Is your company going to buy 150 Red Hat boxes for 150 workstations? No, but there's this idea that somebody is going to pick up the tab, out of altruism or cluelessness. Lots of people seem to think Eazel is going to make money by charging for their hard drive space service. Is there a single person out there who intends to pay for it himself?
Open Source Financial Report (Score:2)
Net Expenses....................: $0.00
Net Products & Services Rendered: $5,000,000,000.00
Re:Hang on a minute... (Score:2)
"...an entire business model based on people's laziness to download the OS and on selling them tech. support contracts?"
First of all, there are no "companies like VA and RedHat". VA is a hardware company, RedHat is software. Two totally different ball games. VA makes money just like Dell/Compaq/Gateway--selling hardware at a slight markup. They have an advantage, though, in that the software they install has no cost.
RedHat's business model is totally different than VA's...AND totally different from what you describe. RedHat isn't trying to make money from users. Haven't you noticed all the "partnerships" and "tools" RedHat has announced in the last year? THAT'S where the money is. RedHat is giving away the blades AND the low-quality/cost razors and then hoping that Big Names will pay Top Dollar for high-quality/cost razors (or razor consultants, or razor-management tools, or razor-branding, etc).
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MailOne [openone.com]
Linux over the year (Score:2)
<laugh> What goes around comes around, I guess. Although I never thought of Linux as an IBM conspiracy, I think it's pretty great that the once-monolithic company with the legendary suits (and the tag line "No one was ever fired for buying IBM") is now supporting something that's almost like the hippie movement. =) And Microsoft, although it still tries to think of itself as a fast, nimble start-up - and perhaps manages to pulls it off in some cases - is now the Bad Guy. Amazing role reversal.
Re:Hang on a minute... (Score:3)
There are, at most, a few thousand companies, worldwide, who need the level of billing software I'm working with. On top of that, each one of them needs heavy customization, which really means that each one of these companies practically has a custom billing system. This means there isn't enough "critical mass" to start an "open source" project to perform this level of billing, so there are going to be zillions of dollars in it for the foreseeable future.
What I'd like to see in the future is a day when Microsoft can't make money selling Exchange because nobody pays for basic email anymore. When I set up my company's internal email, it never occured to me that I'd have to pay a dime for the software. I have to pay for the hardware. I have to pay an administrator. If I want some feature that is specific to my vertical market, I'll have to pay some geeks (possibly myself) to create that function. And that's how I like it -- email is not an interesting problem anymore, but some quirky new feature... hey, that's geekworthy!
So, there's plenty of money out there, but Open Source means it's going to the people solving the interesting, new problems, not last year's basic, recurring problems. (Yeah, that's a bit worrisome to VA Linux and RedHat...)
Re:I my god *yawn* (Score:3)
Maybe you make a living selling beads at crafts shows and this "nerd" thing is just a passionate hobby of yours. Good for you, if that's the case, but for the majority of us who's profession is intertwined with their interests in Things Geeky, the "business of Open Source" is Stuff That Matters.
Hang on a minute... (Score:3)
This means that to support Open Source businesses are going to have to get more into the service side of the industry which is absolutely terrible. This is terrible because service industries cost more to run, require more staff, and worse of all, requires the "consumer" to stump up cash for stuff that is free.
Perhaps I'm being ignorant, but I really have problems understanding why companies like VA and Redhat are valued as they are. A utility company being paid to deliver water to the tap is one thing, but an entire business model based on people's laziness to download the OS and on selling them tech. support contracts? This doesn't feel right.... please, explain to me how this works in an economic sense in the long term and how Redhat's "custom development, consulting, training" is not going to fail in the face of a geek with a compiler, usenet and some man pages?
The cancer of disillusionment is spreading (Score:3)
In mechanics you can increase the momentum both either by going faster or by increasing the mass. In the context of this analogy, I'd say that the increased momentum of the Open Source Software has more to do with its increased mass than its innovation speed.
Furthermore, the ideological basis of the entire movement seems to be shaking. Just as it often happens with ideological movements, the Open Source community is fragmenting into more or less opposing cliques led by cults of personality such as RMS, Linus and ESR. With the implicit and sometimes explicit (Netscape) pressure from the corporate world as well as the growing discontent and disillusionment down at the grass root level, we've indeed reached the watershed. The community has got the visibility and recognition now. What to do with it? Where should it be heading? Back to the ideological roots or compromise and even try that suit on?
Re:The cancer of disillusionment is spreading (Score:3)
What about RMS? (Score:5)
Now then:
A few hours ago, I learned that I am now (at least in theory) absurdly rich....That's interesting," said I to myself. "I didn't think we were going out till tomorrow." And I oughtta know; I'm on VA's Board of Directors
This sentence would explain why he is now, both in theory and in reality, no longer absurdly rich. If the members of the Board don't even know when the company is going public, something is wrong somewhere. Possibly it may be composed of morons.
VA had indeed gone out on NASDAQ -- and I had become worth approximately forty-one million dollars while I wasn't looking.
I don't think I congratulated ESR when that happened, or maybe I did because I was still using my Karma whoring account back then. Anyway, it appears that again, while ESR wasn't paying attention, the company's stock price fell into the crapper. That tends to happen when members of the Board not paying attention becomes a recurring theme.
Well, that didn't last long.
How prophetic.
Trouble with the "keep it quiet" theory is that I've made my bucks in a very public way.
First, ESR didn't make any 'bucks', he already said himself that he was wealthy on paper and not in reality. Given his current situation I'm sure he knows this though. That aside, shouldn't he be losing all of this in a public way as well?
I'm wealthy today because my efforts to spread the idea of open source on behalf of that community helped galvanize the business world
Now that he is broke, does this mean that his efforts were really a failure? Certainly this must be true, if his efforts really had galvanized the business community then what happened to all of these millions he paraded in front of everyone?
Fairness to the hackers who made me bankable demands that I publicly acknowledge this result -- and publicly face the question of how it's going to affect my life and what I'll do with the money.
Yet he hasn't publicly acknowledged the result of the stock price falling into single digits. How is that affecting things?
This is a question that a lot of us will be facing as open source sweeps the technology landscape. Money follows where value leads,
In this particular context he is using market success to validate Open Source's position as a legitimate competitor of proprietary software. Lately, the only sweeping Open Source has been doing in the markets is in the basement. We can also assume that proprietary software is now the value leader, as the money is breaking north for Open Source companies.
Red Hat and VA have created a precedent now, with their directed-shares programs designed to reward as many individual contributors as they can identify
Reward, ruin, whatever. Its all the same I guess.
So while there aren't likely to be a lot more multimillion-dollar bonanzas like mine,
For the sake of the economy I hope not.
Gee. Remember when the big question was "How do we make money at this?
That still is the question. As if anyone ever needed any proof that the people who keep saying that you can make money off of GPL'd software really don't know what the hell they are talking about, you have it right here. Here is a guy declaring a victory when the battle has just begun. He's also equating making money with the stock price of the company. Maybe these guys should take a few business courses, or maybe their mindset has too much of a socialist bend, I'm not sure how to educate them other than letting the market run them out of business over and over. Whatever, that question is yet left unanswered.
The first part of my answer is "I'll do nothing, until next June...I will be wealthy in six months, unless VA or the U.S. economy craters before then. I'll bet on VA; I'm not so sure about the U.S. economy :-).
More prophesy! The economy seems to be doing well but the outlook for VA isn't so rosy. Maybe there is a future for Open Sourcers in the business world: consultants. Whatever they say, just do the opposite. Hope you got out in June.
Assuming the economy does not in fact crater, how is wealth going to affect my life in six months?
Economy = good, VA share price = bad. Enough said.
Reporters often ask me these days if I think the open-source community will be corrupted by the influx of big money
Wonder if they still ask...maybe they ask the question but in past tense. Hard to tell.
And maybe a nice hotrodded match-grade .45 semi for tactical shooting.
This is something we agree on. A nicely modded 1911 is an excellent investment let me tell you. Even though I'm more of a rifle person myself, 1911s are amazingly well crafted guns. I sincerely hope he was able to purchase one before his wealth dried up. I would probably even sell ESR some handloads on the cheap, given his current situation.
I'm not going to minimize my attachments by giving it all away, though, so you evangelists for a zillion worthy causes can just calm down out there and forget about hitting me up for megabucks.
It must be a load off of ESR's mind now that these evangelists have no reason to call him.
Ironically enough, one result of my getting rich is that I will probably start charging for speaking appearances, now that nobody can plausibly accuse me of doing it for the money
Heh, I wonder if he is charging now or no. On one hand, he probably needs the cash, on the other, people can again plausibly accuse him of doing it for the money.
But enough trivialities; I'm going to get back to trolling.
Indeed, I will now do the same. I guess I should stop knocking VA. At least they didn't buy up a bunch of other companies with their overvalued stock (like RHAT) and spread their ruin around any. Oh wait...