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Microsoft Starts Legal Fight Over Lindows Name

timothy posted more than 12 years ago | from the their-valuable-trademark dept.

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actappan writes: "Whether or not Lindows is real, this article on CNET News.com indicates that Microsoft intends to sue them into oblivion. Looks like supression remains the best way to promote innovation." cyberlawyer adds: "Some of you may remember that MS originally had great difficulty obtaining a trademark for the generic term 'Windows' but was eventually able to pay off those who had filed letters of protest to the granting of the mark including Sun, Oracle, and Borland. As a trademark lawyer I (unhappily) have to admit that Lindows probably has a weak case. Of course it's never too late to bring a cancellation action based on genericide ;-)" CodeWheeney contributes a link to coverage at Yahoo, too.

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I (heart) your mom (-1)

Eso (205333) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735483)

So, there I was in bed with your mom, and your dad walked in, and he was like "yo, wtf?" and I was like "duuuuuude..." and he was like "yeahhhh.....". And it was good.

Fuck you (-1)

JonKatz on (535285) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735486)

That's right, fuck you!

Innovation (5, Funny)

Carnage4Life (106069) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735492)

Looks like supression remains the best way to promote innovation.

<tongue-in-cheek>
There's nothing quite as innovative as an operating system with the sole goal of reimplementing APIs from other operating systems until it can run their binaries. :)
</tongue-in-cheek>

L/Windows (0, Troll)

Renraku (518261) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735493)

I guess we're going to have to change the name of those holes that are full of glass in our walls, else we be sued by Microsoft.

*BSD is dying (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735494)

It's now official. Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying

Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practcal purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD is dead

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Re:Have You Seen This Panda?? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735512)

wtf is this suppose to mean ?

Re:Have You Seen This Panda?? (-1)

core10k (196263) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735538)

It's a 'picture' of Rob Malda's ex. Follow the White [google.com] Rabbit [google.com]

To me it's fair (3, Insightful)

linuxci (3530) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735496)

The name is not "Windows" but "Lindows" which gives the impression that it's not Windows but somehow connected to Windows.

Therefore I see no problem in the name, if Microsoft were truly believers of free competition and innovation they'd leave this alone. The only time to complain is if they try and con people into thinking this project has a connection to Microsoft.

I think windows should be a generic term anyway, whether I'm running Windows, X or BeOS I call those boxes on the screen 'windows', therefore any derivatives of the name should be allowed I think.

Re:To me it's fair (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735560)

So, would "Licrosoft" be ok?

Re:To me it's fair (2, Insightful)

Tickenest (544722) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735580)

The name is not "Windows" but "Lindows" which gives the impression that it's not Windows but somehow connected to Windows.

Isn't this the problem? Windows doesn't want its brand name to be associated with something that's not Microsoft, so naturally they're going to fight it.

if Microsoft were truly believers of free competition and innovation they'd leave this alone

Who besides Microsoft ever said they were such believers? (And have they ever even said this???)

I think windows should be a generic term anyway, whether I'm running Windows, X or BeOS I call those boxes on the screen 'windows', therefore any derivatives of the name should be allowed I think

That'd be nice, but I wouldn't expect it to happen anytime soon.

Re:To me it's fair (1)

jeffy124 (453342) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735632)

I think windows should be a generic term anyway, whether I'm running Windows, X or BeOS I call those boxes on the screen 'windows', therefore any derivatives of the name should be allowed I think.

i say we ask the opinion of the guy who steps away from his computer when tech support says "now close that window"

Re:To me it's fair (5, Insightful)

grammar fascist (239789) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735639)

The name is not "Windows" but "Lindows" which gives the impression that it's not Windows but somehow connected to Windows.

That's exactly the point behind the legislation, and I'll have to grudgingly agree with Microsoft on this thing. "Windows" is such a ubiquitous name, and "Lindows" is so phonetically close, that the only thing the Lindows people could be doing with a name like that is riding on their coattails, so to speak. (Whether or not they meant to is not an issue.) This lawsuit is exactly what trademark law is for.

Another issue is that Microsoft doesn't want the tech support calls for Lindows (and you know it would happen). Yet another is that people would automatically associate Windows with Lindows, and that's not something Microsoft wants either. Trademark law is also meant to protect against these two problems.

Whether or not "Windows" is a strong enough mark is a completely different issue. They've got the trademark, and, by law, they can protect it.

Lawsuits. (3, Funny)

saintlupus (227599) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735497)

Ah, perfect. Don't change the name; just slap on the Aqua interface and ship it. This is the legal equivalent of a honeypot.

--saint

So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735498)

What if they change it to Winux? Or maybe Winux XP for that extra eXPerience?

Seriously though, when has a copyright included things that sound somewhat similar to their product?

Re:So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735515)

Seriously though, when has a copyright included things that sound somewhat similar to their product?

Since the dawn of trademarking.

XP stands for eXPensive obviously (1)

Evil Pete (73279) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735527)

... Lindows, Winamp, ... hey MS can sue IETF for using the word "windowing" in their protocols.

As always MS presents a good case for the "Might is right" school of thought.

Re:So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735561)

Seriously though, when has a copyright included things that sound somewhat similar to their product?

It's not about copyright, it's about a trademark, and similar sounding (looking) names have traditionally been a big no-no in trademark law. On the other hand the name 'Windows' does not seem to be sufficiently adapted to distinguish a windowing user interface. At least in some countries, this requirement (sufficiently adapted to distinguish) is still required for enforcing a tradmark...

Torvalds sueing next? (3, Insightful)

jmd! (111669) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735499)

Linus has just as good a case... Lindows starts with Lin, which is over half of the name Linux.

I bet (1)

Jucius Maximus (229128) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735500)

if Lindows was a product from a 3rd party company that ran only on Windows, MS would not try to sue them.

Re:I bet (2)

GiMP (10923) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735513)

If that was so, it wouldn't be in direct competition with Microsoft.. hence, they would have less of a problem :)

I think Bill Gates needs to register at (-1, Offtopic)

Qwaz (250711) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735502)

http://www.racing-forums.com/bbs/

NASCAR fans would have fun with him.

Re:I think Bill Gates needs to register at (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735514)

Stop trolling. NASCAR is the wwf of auto racing.

If not Lindows.. (4, Funny)

FrankNputer (141316) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735503)

How about Windex?

Oh, wait...damn...

Next step: automate it! (1)

Quixote (154172) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735549)

Or how about "Windux" ? Or "LinWin" ?

Why give Micro$oft an opening?

Unless, of course, it gets Lindows some much-needed publicity. Which isn't bad. ;-)

Re:If not Lindows.. (2, Funny)

quartz (64169) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735612)

Or even "Winux". As in "Shhh... Be vewy vewy quiet. I'm hunting Winux." You think Elmer Fudd would sue?

Why do they want the name anyway? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735505)

The name does nothing but associate their brand of Linux with the crappy, unstable, smoldering pile of dog crap that Windows is. Couldn't they think of a name less derogatory?

Something like:
National Socialist Party of Germany

Tilting at windmills (-1)

PowerTroll 5000 (524563) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735506)

From the Yahoo article:

San Diego-based Lindows was started earlier this year by Michael Robertson, the founder of online music company MP3.com that aimed to take on big record labels.

MP3.com tanked, and he sold it out to a label. He cannot take on the 800 lb. gorilla.

Mikey, didn't you learn the first time?

Bust of MS and (1)

darnellmc (524699) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735507)

They can sue for the name crumbs ;o) !

What's Microsoft afraid of? (1)

bluenirve (470125) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735508)

OK, Lindows probably won't ever be that big, so why does Microsoft care? does 4 letters mean that much to them? Personally, I dont't think we should give in and let Windows take over, but hey, I guess then Linus should sue next... Man, sometimes I can't figure out why Microsoft can't spend it's extra $32B better.

Oh my God, they are such a threat to Microsoft ! (2, Funny)

J.D. Hogg (545364) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735509)

"Microsoft contends the company, which plans to formally release its product next year, purposely is trying to confuse Lindows with Windows."

Microsoft is in grave danger of trademark dilution here. I mean, if they were a monopoly and the vast majority of OS users ran Windows, I wouldn't say, but as a fragile company with such a small name recognition, it's important that potential new customers don't get confused by a sneaky new startup who just wants to make a free buck out of a competitors honestly earned and well deserved success ...

Anyone remember X-Windows? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735511)

So just change the name to L-Windows. If Micro$haft doesn't like it, then they'd have to take on MIT as well. I'd like to see them try.

Re:Anyone remember X-Windows? (2, Informative)

jjeff (80578) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735575)

Yes i may be replying to a troll, but perhaps hes legit..

there is and has never been anything called X-Windows (AFAIK - anyway MIT's X window system is not called X-Windows).

there was X11
then XFree
Sometime along the lines they merged.. and im not sure of exactly what its called now.. i just know it is a mix of both systems.

Re:Anyone remember X-Windows? (5, Interesting)

SIGFPE (97527) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735593)

Maybe they should call it 'L'. People can then informally call it the L-windows system but in court they can just turn round and say "no yer honour, it's called L, not L-windows, we can't control what everyone else calls it".

Re:Anyone remember X-Windows? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735616)

Then they'll be sued by Dennis Ritchie because "L" is too similar to "C" in that its a name that only contains a single letter (and its _only_ 9 letters removed).

The guy that owns Lindows is an ugly bastard! (-1, Offtopic)

FatAssBastard (530195) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735516)

I found some photos of him, which can be seen here [enfilade.org] .

Lindows SHOULD be sued (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735517)

It is a blatent copyright violation.

Totally different products? (-1, Flamebait)

havardi (122062) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735518)

One is a giant piece of shit... the other is an operating system for computers. Whats the deal?

Re:Totally different products? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735534)

I wouldn't say that... If anything, Linux is only a small piece of shit.

Microsoft's Claim is Legit (IAAL) (4, Troll)

gayrod (545101) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735521)

I've seen a lot of "IANAL"s discussing issues like this, but, for once, IAAL. (maybe IAAAL? I am actually a lawyer ;).

Anyways, Microsoft's claim is entirely legitimate. 'Lindows' is in the same "industry" as 'Windows', and is intentionally abusing the popularity of Windows for its own benefit.

This is the same as coming up with an electronics company called Panasoanic -- there is the potential for legitimate consumer confusion.

I know it's unpopular to side with Microsoft on something, but for once they're in the right here.

As a copyright/trademark lawyer, I'm hoping the courts make the right decision and force Lindows into a name change.

- Dave Brennins

Re:Microsoft's Claim is Legit (IAAL) (1)

nomadic (141991) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735573)

Hey, I know a genuine Sorny when I see one!

Re:Microsoft's Claim is Legit (IAAL) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735624)

What about a genuine Magnetbox or Panaphonics?

Re:Microsoft's Claim is Legit (IAAL) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735578)

I don't think this has as much to do with the name Lindows as it does Microsoft trying to sick a 'possible' competitor by drowning them in legal expenses. And, of course, making all future competitor fearful of acting boldly. Thus drying up VC $$$.

Re:Microsoft's Claim is Legit (IAAL) (1)

Dancin_Santa (265275) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735595)

No, I'm pretty sure it's the trademark issue.

Dancin Santa

Re:Microsoft's Claim is Legit (IAAL) (-1)

VALinux (449801) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735608)

riight, some crackpot idea to sell Linux+Wine to desktop users by calling it Lindows is a "possible competitor" with Microsoft.

In other news, the soapbox derby car I built in my garage makes me a possible competitor with Ford.

Re:Microsoft's Claim is Legit (IAAL) (2, Insightful)

dj28 (212815) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735588)

I doubt you are a lawyer. The domain 'davebrenninslaw.org' doesn't even exist. You might want to register it before you use it for your email address, don't you think?

Re:Microsoft's Claim is Legit (IAAL) (1)

gayrod (545101) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735615)

No, not yet. I just recently signed up to Slashdot, and put it as my info, as it will very soon be my home on the web. It will be soon (and in the meantime it sure prevents spam! ;) - Dave Brennins

Re:Microsoft's Claim is Legit (IAAL) (5, Insightful)

defunc (238921) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735601)

Very well said. They have indeed spend many dollars in marketing that name and for someone to come in and piggyback on their name is, well, not fair. Let a database competitor that only run on Linux to come up with the name Loracle and see what Oracle does. MS has a solid case and I have no doubt they will prevail.

The guys there should have picked something like Winux. After all, it's running windows on linux. Not the other way round.

zoot-2.2.20-SMP

Panasoanic isn't Lindows. (1, Insightful)

enkidu (13673) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735609)

IANAL but as a layman, saying that Panasoanic may cause confusion with Panasonic is reasonable. Saying that Lindows may cause confusion with Windows is pushing it. Should the makers of "Deer Hunter" have been able to sue "Beer Hunter"? By this kind of reasoning, Apple (OS X) should sue Microsoft for XP. Maybe a Kalahari bushman might be confused by Lindows vs. Windows, but I believe that there is no "reasonable potential for confusion." Especially if the packaging and design doesn't emulate the "look" of Windows(tm). I just checked, their web site doesn't emulate Microsoft's, although it's still pretty ugly. If Lindows has the pockets to fight this, I think they have a reasonable chance of defending themselves.

If I were one of the founders, I would have considered that this would happen. This should be a planned for contingency. Of course, the planning would have to be in secret, 'cause an evidence of willful abuse would trigger punitive damages. Ain't the law grand?

The alternative is to roll over and play dead, go out of business and sell their IP back to the founders who could start up again named "Winux".

Re:Panasoanic isn't Lindows. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735620)

The real planning for this contingency would have been to not choose such a stupid name in the first place.

Re:Panasoanic isn't Lindows. (1)

enkidu (13673) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735630)

Yeah, I agree. Winux or Linnows seem like they would be a lot smaller targets.

Xwindows (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735525)

Why didn't The Open Group sue microsoft? Maybe they could add an X and call it Xlindows instead of Lindows since The Open Group doesn't seem to care.

Re:Xwindows (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735536)

oops, yes, its Xwindow not Xwindows.

Fighting over letters.

microsoft going after lindows (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735530)

Yea sure, let's see, micro-soft, what an original name (back 20 years ago, micro processors and software words were commonly used by computer people a lot), as far as naming a product "windows" when the name was used in computer science a lot, well, that's also original too, now, let's see, oh yes, what about how microsoft stole the look and feel of apples mac and won a court battle concerning copying another product, okay, so it's year 2001, and microsoft has the nerve to go after lindows, very hypocritical

Stole from Mac? Hahaha (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735553)

Microsoft stole from Xerox. Mac also stole from Xerox. Mac had little to do with this. Atari (ST) and Amiga both developed successful GUI's, also stealing from Xerox.

Much MS bashing today... (-1, Flamebait)

ljaguar (245365) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735532)

Damn, already three freakin' stories on MS. All of them with insane amount of posts. Get some life, slashdot.

Re:Much MS bashing today... (0, Offtopic)

geekster (87252) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735574)

Should that be a big amount or a small amount of life? I mean come on! "Get some life" ?

PC Mag hit it on the head (5, Funny)

The-Pheon (65392) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735533)

according to a quote from a review on the lindows site [lindows.com] .

It's software that combines Linux and Windows without violating any trademark or copyright--although I bet Microsoft will sue at some point.

Guess they were right!

Great publicity (2)

Animats (122034) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735537)

This is great publicity. So maybe they have to change the name. "Lindows" is a stupid name for a product, anyway.

Re:Great publicity (1)

pinkj (521155) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735545)

How about 'Lackintosh?'

Oh my God! (2)

Erris (531066) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735543)

Are my Window Managers infringing? Oh no! I'm so confused. Will Lindows blow like M$? Say it ain't so.

Here we go again.... (1)

Nonillion (266505) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735546)

Just goes to show you that Microsoft hasn't learned a damn thing. I'm just at a loss for words to describe my disgust with Bill Gates and his "monopoly at all costs attitude". Seeing shit like this just pisses me off to no end....

$ rm -r windows

Re:Here we go again.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735551)

Yeah! When will Microsoft learn to stop pissing you off? The nerve!

Re:Here we go again.... (-1)

VALinux (449801) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735633)

In other news, Bill Gates has called a press conference to sincerely apologize for pissing off "Nonillion" to no end. Quote:

"If I had known that my monopoly at all costs attitude would have pissed off Mrs. Nonillion to no end, I would have learned something. I will now be placing all my liquid assets, as well as my massive stock holdings in trust, with all proceeds going to benefit the Free Software Federation. Thank You."
--Bill Gates

last names... (1)

crazyprogrammer (412543) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735552)

after looking in a local phone book I found several for last names that start with "Win" and "Lin". Microsoft will probably sue all people who's last name is "Winfree" because some people might think that these people give out copies of Windows for free. Microsoft will probably also sue all of the "Lindsay" people because the first part of thier last name is the same as the first part of the word "Lindows".

Well I hope Microsoft doesn't sue me for using the word Windows without asking for their permission!

How you can fight back. (5, Funny)

cibrPLUR (176588) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735554)

I say that we fight Microsoft by refering to all OS's as 'Windows.'

Hopefully this will cause Microsoft to lose the trademark name 'Windows' because it will become generic from over usage.

M$ should be happy for this (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735555)

Given the terrible track record of Windows for everything that an operating system is supposed to do, you'd think M$ would be trying to DISTANCE themselves from the Windows name.

If coke started killing half the people who drank it, I doubt Coke (the company) would be branding it's soft drinks the same afterwards.

The Windows brand name doesn't mean shit, and M$ knows it. Just like the name Microsoft (how many times have you seen the name in an XBox ad? Zero times for me). This is just about making sure no alternative exists to Windows for running Windows based apps, by litigating to death companies trying to accomplish this.

It may suck, but it sure beats the Mac. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735565)

When you realize that the GUI is not suited for certain things, Windows has always let you drop down to the command line to get things done. The Mac OS, until very recently, was pretty near useless without this escape valve.


I used to use Mac, but upgraded to Windows, and have since upgraded to Linux

Re:It may suck, but it sure beats the Mac. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735589)

yeah, that windows command line is sooooo powerful. i can do a 'dir', or an 'exit'. woot!!

btw, all mac os'es have a command line, even 10.0 versions. it's just hidden. how do you think they developed each os? magic?

Hidden? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735618)

Yes. it is very powerful, due to the dozens of commands you failed to mention.


The command line was there all along and hidden? How well it was hidden; all of the other Mac experts I asked said it did not exist. Why would Mac ensure that this extremely useful tool would remain unknown?


With attitudes like this (make people think that the OS you are selling is crippled and it really is not), no wonder hardly anyone has a Mac. Sure seems typical of a company that thinks jabbing paperclips in pinholes is better than pressing easy to use buttons.

Re:Hidden? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735637)

Can't you see all the "Don't feed the trolls" signs? :)

Feeding Trolls (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735646)

Yup. anyone who finds Mac computers to be 2nd rate (like 90% of the computer users out there) must be a "troll".

Obvious (1)

rbeattie (43187) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735558)


Who the hell didn't see this one coming? If you didn't then you're a head-in-the-sand dreamer.

These guys might as well have named their company/product Microsauft. It's the same freakin' thing.

Shitty name anyways... it's an abomination.

-Russ

Who would be confused? (3, Insightful)

ImaLamer (260199) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735559)

"If they're alleging that people are going to be confusing Microsoft Corp. with Lindows.com, I think there's zero potential of that happening," he said. "If people are confused, just remember that we're not the convicted monopolist."

Murchinson said Microsoft considered legal action a last resort.


I'm still laughing!

On Murchinson's comment, it can't be a 'last' resort because they don't stop. When you play monopoly do you just plain give up?

I don't think suing them will be the last step - it's their first. They can sue easily, they have lawyers. It's like a Soviet Tank rush in Red Alert 2.. hit your enemy before they can build anything, then they can't get back at you; kill slowly from there.

Windows has become a product of it's own. Not an 'os' anymore. Instead of changing people to linux, change their flavor of windows.

Re:Who would be confused? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735586)

Instead of changing people to linux, change their flavor of windows


Flavors? Why use that word. Do you actually lick operating systems? Must be a holdover from the iMac media burst, when color was proven to mean more than memory in the computer world. Tangerine....

Coming to America (2, Funny)

emf (68407) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735562)

This reminds me of the movie "Coming To America"

They're Mac Donalds; I'm Mic Dowell's.
They've got the Golden Arches; We've got the Golden Arcs.
They got the Big Mac; We got the Big Mic.

We both have 2 all beef pattties, special sauce, but they have a sesame seed bun. Our buns have no seeds.

That's ok... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735570)

Cuz I'm gonna sue RedHat over the Linux name, which sounds infringingly similar to Limpets, which is my trademark (The Incredible Mr. Limpet®).

Lindows is vaporware (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735572)

Lindows is vaporware. Check OSNews [osnews.com] for more information on the subject.

New Name? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735582)

Assuming that Microsoft win this one because they have the might, the trademark, and the only anti-argument is "The WIMP paradigm appeared in the late 70's, the W stands for Windows, and this is what we based the name on - LIMP to be funny"...

What should the software now be called?

WinLin? LinWin? Winux? Or maybe something random, like Porcupine?

What about MS??? (2, Funny)

WickedClean (230550) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735585)

Why doesn't the state of Mississippi sue the crap out of Microsoft? The abbreviation for Mississippi is MS, and so is Microsoft. Hmmmm. I bet the state would lose and have to change its name. I may be on to something here.

Think about it, Michael Mann could make The Insider, Part Two. Instead of taking on tobacco companies it would be about monopolizing software companies. Anthony Michael Hall can play Bill Gates again, and we can bring Russel Crowe back and have the two go at it in some kind of virtual reality gladiator thing.

heh. "Any press is good press" (5, Interesting)

footility (541226) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735587)

I think the Lindows people /knew/ from the beginning that MS would spend /their money/ to give the Lindows a little industry spotlight ;-) Kudos guys.

This is odd... (1)

wrinkledshirt (228541) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735591)

Microsoft contends the company, which plans to formally release its product next year, purposely is trying to confuse Lindows with Windows.

That's odd. I thought they ripped off the "Lin" in Lindows from Linux. In fact, because it's the first half of the word, I'd say Linus Thorvalds has the better case.

Now, if only Linus could sue these guys for the grand total of, say, a dozen doughnuts, and beat Microsoft to the punch on the whole trademark-stealing-thing, maybe we could get these boys off the hook?

Re:This is odd... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735614)

After your comment about doughnuts, and this case, the obvious new name should be:

LinDOH!s

Sorry, that is really bad, isn't it?

They dont even let the product launch! (2)

HanzoSan (251665) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735596)



Already attacking the competition before the competition even exits the gate.

Must be Microsofts new strategy, kill all companies who have threatening names!

The Solution ! ? ! (2, Funny)

GuNgA-DiN (17556) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735597)

Call it "Winux" instead

;)

Just look at Killustrator (2)

krugdm (322700) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735600)

Adobe was able to make Killustrator change its name [slashdot.org] to Kontour. Unfortunately, if that went through, I don't see much hope for Lindows...

Ford of the Rings (1)

Evil Attraction (150413) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735603)

...is that illegal, too? So. In other words; everything that sounds like something else, is illegal? Well. Ok. But still illegal when the two "things" are connected to each other? I mean, "Lindows" just means that it's got something to do with Windows.

Jeez. Microsoft never stop surprising me.

Track record (1)

awing0 (545366) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735606)

Who is behind Lindows.com? Michael Robertson is the CEO, founder, and central visionary behind Lindows.com. Prior to starting Lindows.com, he was the founder and CEO of MP3.com
Sounds like he's 2 for 2 concerning lawsuits. I dug up this older article on MP3.com here. [mp3.com]

This is great news! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735607)

"We're not asking the court to stop the company from making their products"

So what they're saying is, we don't care if you clone Windows, just don't use a name that sounds like it?

Great!

The name Lindows isn't that big a deal, there are plenty of names to go around (Lindoors?). However, if the OS became popular, Microsoft may have pulled out some legal trump card saying "Sorry, you can't copy Windows/the API/the look 'n' feel/the BSOD. Stop the project now." They're basically giving up that right if all they're worried about now is a trademark dispute.

how paranoid can you be? (2, Interesting)

jasonbw (326067) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735617)

Actually, this makes perfect sense. They're basically doing this as an arguement against the monopoly charge. A real threat to the way they do business. of course, it's just a technicality that the software in question isn't available for sale yet.

Not saying i agree with it though. And as logical as it seems, if they win, they're proving that they stifle competition through any means available.

The suit asks the court to order the start-up to stop using the Lindows name and also seeks unspecified monetary damages

How can they sue for money? has Lindows actually damaged them in someway? If they want them to change the name, fine, let them try, but how much can they really ask for?

Maybe i'll sue all the Jason's in the world for using MY name. No, i'll sue anyone who's name ends with -son. get them to change their names AND give me money for my effort.

Pronunciation (2)

Anonymous DWord (466154) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735619)

How about those who call it Lye-nucks? Then they'd pronounce this Line-does. No confusion there. MS doesn't have a case.

Then what about X Windows ? (1)

josh crawley (537561) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735621)

Ok, if there's a 1 letter substitution between Windows and Lindows, what about X Windows? For somebody that doesn't know what X WIndows is, the two can seem quite confusing.

But I thought that X Windows could run Windows stuff.

What a sad, sad world.

Josh Crawley

Re:Then what about X Windows ? (1)

josh crawley (537561) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735642)

That was supposed to have a tag like:

(lessthan)newbie(greaterthan) But I thought that X Windows could run Windows stuff.

I specified for it to be Plain old text, thinking it would ignore tags. Guess not.

trademarks .... (1)

terrymr (316118) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735623)

NT is a trademark of Northern Telecom.

Lawsuits (2, Interesting)

SILIZIUMM (241333) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735625)

With all that lawsuits from/for Microsoft, mabye we will see a "Microsoft DOJ" soon...

Speaking on the topic, M$ seems to just sue their "potential competitors", in fact small companies with (for most) great ideas. Theses companies can't afford the costs for the lawsuit and are forced to close. After that, M$ stole a good idea (mabye from that company), put the Microsoft name on it and sell it.

M$ is going to be everywhere (this is their dream). From PCs to game consoles, telephones, etc. I expect TVs soon (Heh, they should try vacuum cleaner... a good way to suck...). Can we call that "monopoly" ? Will they sue the dictionnaries because there is the words "Windows" and "office" in it ? Do people will wake up when they will live on planet "Windows Earth" ?

Lindows is kind of a play on words (1)

narfbot (515956) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735627)

Lindows = Windows + Linux

Linux = Linus + Unix??

Else where I found scribbled:

Windows = Dos + MacOS,(you know adding graphical "windows" to a command prompt)

Come on really... You can't make anything in the computer world without basing it off of something else. And if Microsoft gets upset in this, so they'll probably win. Lindows loses it's identity of being Windows-like, and it won't sell, destroying a competitor.

Microsft is keeping the "Windows From Linux" by using a common term in any GUI. They didn't invent the Windows that they use, so why should they be allowed to prevent derivates of Windows?

Coming To America (1)

sabinm (447146) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735629)

This reminds me of Eddie Murphy's coming to America and that guy who's hamberger resturant was named "McDowells"

"See, they have the "Big Mac" we have the "Big Mic". They have Golden Arches, we have Golden Arcs."

how bout Linopoly (2)

smartin (942) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735641)

let the evil bastards sue, it only makes them look bad

In unrelated news ... (2, Funny)

J.D. Hogg (545364) | more than 12 years ago | (#2735644)

Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq: MSFT) has decided to defend its well-know trademarked operating system name "Windows" by launching a lawsuit against the glass window pane industry : "All these people selling windows[tm] to homeowners around the globe, it's an intolerable abuse of Microsoft[r] trademarks." declared yesterday Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer.

Similarly, Microsoft Corp. has decided to sue the cattle industry for allowing their cows to graze in meadows[tm], and the sun for casting shadows[tm].

They have no choice in this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2735652)

If they do not actively defend their trademark, they will lose it.

Xerox failed to sue when people infringed on their trademark so a judge decided they no longer had the trademark.
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