Slashback: Apache, DRM, Limbo 175
Those guys did not ride in with us. Sascha Schumann of the Apache Software Foundation wrote to correct the story presented in Monday's post (".Net for Apache"), writing "this is _not_ a joint Apache Software Foundation/Microsoft stunt. It has not been approved or endorsed by the Apache Software Foundation, nor does it require any of those acts -- it is a deal between two private companies, Covalent and Microsoft."
Fly on wall video, anyone? kikensei writes: "DSL Reports has a story summarizing last week's DRM round table that was stacked with corporate panel members. You can read it here. It presents a much more apt framework for discussion than the overly sensitive, passive account from Al3x that defined our discussion last week."
Dancing in limbo, limbo, limbo. Earlier this month, we mentioned Red Hat's new beta, called Limbo. wiredog writes "From eWeek, a review of RedHat 8.0 beta. With gcc 3.1,the latest versions of GNOME, Mozilla and OpenOffice, and Apache 2.0"
The force is strong in these metallic boxes. Verizon Guy writes "CNet is reporting that Industrial Light and Magic, the group responsible for rendering the special effects in the Star Wars films, is moving away from their proprietary SGI/IRIX/RISC based systems and is instead moving to Dells running Linux. This will give them 100% performance at 20% of the cost."
Here's a link to our post with the recent Linux Journal article on same; look for more on this soon.
Wear name tags, please. mpawlo writes "Slashdot meetup day is only a week away. Some 4 500 people have already signed up to meet all over the world on Thursday July 25, 2002, 7 pm. We need more fellow Swedes to meet in Stockholm and I guess the same goes for other cities."
Re:I'm not signing up for Meetup, and neither are (Score:1)
Re:I'm not signing up for Meetup, and neither are (Score:2)
Hey, Scott! Good to know you hang out on
Re:I'm not signing up for Meetup, and neither are (Score:1)
Hang out on /. and sometimes get hung out to dry, but I must apologize: I'm not triangulating on 'fader'. Howbout a hint...
The lone meeters (Score:4, Funny)
Re:The lone meeters (Score:4, Funny)
Nobody will disagree with you either.
Re:The lone meeters (Score:1)
But the trolls can be downright unbearable.
Re:The lone meeters (Score:1)
Re:The lone meeters (Score:2)
Problem is with locality (Score:1)
LA pretty much hung together... (Score:2)
I would have actually preferred a little more localism. A San Fernando Valley meetup would have been way better for my purposes (Sherman Oaks, anyone?) and I'm sure Westsiders would have been much happier with a Venice or Santa Monica locale. Downtown would probably have been better for the NOC geeks centered around One Wilshire. However, it's cool that there will be such a throng.
I will be bringing the digital camera. Photos will be up at msgeek.org as soon as I can swing it after the big event.
Re:The lone meeters (Score:1)
Re:The lone meeters (Score:2)
I feel sorry for them... (Score:3, Funny)
4,500 people! I feel sorry for the three girls that are gonna show up. Behave yourselfz, gentlemen! Keep your 1337n335 where it belongs!
Where it belongs? (Score:2)
why require email address (Score:4, Funny)
The site promises that I won't be spammed, but I have found repeatedly that many companies don't share my definition of spam. More often than not, when a company promises not to use my email address for spam, what they mean is that they won't sell my address (for now). However, they don't consider sending me a weekly newsletter consisting soley of product ads to be spam.
Re:why require email address (Score:4, Funny)
Re:why require email address (Score:1)
just for meetup purposes and volia!
Re:why require email address (Score:3, Insightful)
The real-world analogues to these types of promotions don't use similar tactics, because they know doing so is silly. When I'm offered a free sample at the grocery, I'm not asked for my phone number.
Re:why require email address (Score:1)
Re:why require email address (Score:2)
One time he called McAffee because he filled out a form on their site listing his email as user-mcaffee@domain.com and he started getting spam to that address. The claimed that they don't give out email addresses, and he informed him that they were the only people that had this email address, calling BS on them.
But in the end, just delete the alias if it starts getting spammed.
~Will
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Re:why require email address (Score:3, Informative)
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Re:why require email address (your answer) (Score:2)
Easy. Your email is cmdrtaco@slashdot.org, and your password is slashdot. I tried it, and I guess I am not the first one to try it, because it says "Welcome back cmdrtaco!"
Commenting on Mandrake (Score:3, Funny)
Anyone who has successfully downloaded the new Mandrake beta want to comment on that?
What? We're no longer permitted to respond in-band [slashdot.org]? Or can the Mandrake Beta now claim to be /.'s quickest
Slashback [slashdot.org] topic?
In other words: huh?
Can't miss this! (Score:2)
And it's only the Devil Rays...
Re:Can't miss this! (Score:1)
Actually, they are on the same day. I was under the misimpression that today was Wednesday.
I appreciate your persistence in coming to my aid, though, and agree that your -1's were undeserved.
My current view on MDK 9.0 b1 (Score:1)
Re:My current view on MDK 9.0 b1 (Score:2, Interesting)
I wish Mandrake come up with some way for me to upgrade painlessly over the 'net without having to download and burn GBs of ISO. If I can't get it done, the next time I try to upgrade my Mandrake 8.1 system, I'll replace it with Debian and never worry about it again.
Re:My current view on MDK 9.0 b1 (Score:2, Informative)
Re:My current view on MDK 9.0 b1 (Score:2, Informative)
Perhaps the 9.0b1 net install image is accessible somewhere and not made widely known because they want beta testers to test the cdrom install program, which is one of the features that leads people to choose Mandrake over other distros.
Terminator 3 (Score:1)
About time. I can still remember the news about how advanced the Terminator 2 movie was in terms of Computer Graphics, breakthrough bla bla blah.
More info about the movie here [upcomingmovies.com], here [countingdown.com], and here [filmfodder.com].
Re:I've got a bad feeling about this (Score:2)
If I remember correctly, Venice was wiped out by a very small asteroid strike, which led to Spacewatch starting, which led to the discovery of Rama.
As usual, CNet gets some individual facts right, others a bit wrong, and totally fucks up the connections between them.
Wear name tags? (Score:2)
Re:Wear name tags? (Score:5, Funny)
If you don't choose to wear a name tag, then some one will force you to wear a sticker that reads "Anonymous Coward."
PDHoss
Re:Wear name tags? (Score:2)
2 days, not a week (Score:1)
What is the week stuff, it's only 2 days away.
uh-huh (Score:1, Redundant)
my original comment [slashdot.org]
Manhattan ( <= 42nd) meetup @ Bowlmor Lanes (Score:4, Funny)
I pretty much figure we'll see the first ever recorded Slashdotting of a bowling alley!
Re:Manhattan ( = 42nd) meetup @ Bowlmor Lanes (Score:2, Interesting)
Theres more to NY than the over populated and polluted island.
Re:Manhattan ( = 42nd) meetup @ Bowlmor Lanes (Score:2)
Two
From the studios shift to intel story... (Score:2)
> Digital Revelations is largely relying on
> Intel-based computers for the effects on "Rendezvous
> with Rama," a thriller coming out next year in
> which a group of humans seek revenge on aliens
> that blow up Italy.
Possibly offtopic, but I don't remember Arthur Clarke's story having any mention of destroying Italy...
Another Good Story Bites the Hollywood Dust (Score:2)
> Intel-based computers for the effects on "Rendezvous
> with Rama," a thriller coming out next year in
> which a group of humans seek revenge on aliens
> that blow up Italy.
Possibly offtopic, but I don't remember Arthur Clarke's story having any mention of destroying Italy...
IFF that caption accurately represents the Hollywood interpretation of Arthur C. Clark's masterpiece the movie will not be worth seeing.
In the book a meteor of natural origion caused tremendouse damage to the Earth when it skimmed by the atmosphere (I don't recall if Italy was affected per se, but it may have been), resulting is the construction of a space defense against any future incoming rocks. This defense detected an inert alien craft entering the solar system (years or decades after the defense system had been built), and a science mission was sent to explore it.
The encounter is a little remeniscent of Stanislaw Lem's Fiasco. The scientists experience a great deal, see a lot, learn a little, but those who survive come away at the end mostly baffled and uncomprehending of what they saw.
No "evil alien attacking" or other such nonsense
Re:Another Good Story Bites the Hollywood Dust (Score:1)
Hardly "IFF" - you have sufficiency, but clearly not necessity (I'm sure Hollywood can find endless ways of making the movie not worth seeing.)
Re:Another Good Story Bites the Hollywood Dust (Score:1)
Point well taken. I really meant IF, but the typo does change the meaning to 'if and only if' which as you point out isn't really the case here.
Not Again (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm getting that "they're going to rape and pillage it like Starship Troopers" feeling. What a waste.
Re:Not Again (Score:1)
Try here [cinecon.com]
Re:From the studios shift to intel story... (Score:2)
Local Meet (Score:1)
Please cease and desist. (Score:2, Funny)
Sincerely,
Joe Dickless
Society for the Prohibition of Circumcision
dicklessjoe@dick.org
Gigantic Baby? (Score:1)
Re:Gigantic Baby? (Score:1)
She's ready to beat up (or at least intimidate) other kids who are the same age. They're building new charts to accomodate her. When she learns to walk, I believe people will find a trail of destruction in her path.
Gigantic baby in the good sense.
timothy
Did they waited to see how others did ? (Score:5, Interesting)
I have a friend who has a friend who etc. works for ILM. They had planned this thing for a loooong time and they had assigned three (small) teams to this swithover project.
;) .
One of the teams was to investigate the actual power of Linux in this domain and the offer of the marked. Techies .
Second team was to look over the market see about savings, opportunities, investors, stuff like that. Financial $tuff
The existence of the third team will probably never be acknowledged, but their task was to look into what their competitors who switched to Linux (see preview slashdot's announces of switchovers) were doing, how were they doing it, what impact on their revenues had, etc. I'd say spies. They've done a pretty good job.
Of course, this is highly fictional and has no relation to any living person or existing company
Re:Did they waited to see how others did ? (Score:4, Funny)
Go to competitors company
wait until some techies get out of there cars
say "There is no way Linux is any good at "
Listen to the 30 minute lecture on why its been good for the company.
And almost certainly... (Score:2)
Its the cheapest way to steal IP, just steal the people.
Spies? Get real. (Score:2)
But then, that's what intelligence is like. Most CIA employees spend their work days analysing documents that are either public or not very hard to get. The people who sneak into the Pottsyvlvania embassy to photograph the secret war plans contribute to the information stream, but most of the work goes into analysing the information, not gathering it. Of course, nobody will ever make a movie about a guy sitting in a cube in Langley, reading foreign newspapers!
Re:Spies? Get real. (Score:1)
Well, at least 'The sum of all fears' hinted at that. ;-)
Peer-to-peer risk (Score:5, Funny)
If someone were to bring a floppy disk or CD with an MP3 file on it, or even a sheet of music with lyrics, wouldn't that technically violate the DMCA resulting in the RIAA attempting to prosecute the whole meet structure? As an organized peer-to-peer structure, it MUST have no other purpose than to violate copyrights, right?
I've got my good buddy Fritz on the line. Maybe he'll funnel some of that good sweet Disney or RIAA Christmas money my way. I'll wash his campaign limo so it's all legal as payment for a service of course... You peer-to-peer criminals have only one thing in mind, and you're the biggest threat to individual expression and creativity the universe has ever seen!
*wakes up in cold sweat, hits "decline" RSVP link*
Industrial Light and Magic: (Score:2, Funny)
The Quiet Majority (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:The Quiet Majority (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The Quiet Majority (Score:1)
And you're bad at spelling.
Re:The Quiet Majority (Score:1)
Re:The Quiet Majority (Score:2)
You are guilty of spreading useless statistics yourself.
A more useful measure would be metro areas. Taken from citypopulations.de [citypopulations.de], Seattle has 3.7 million people and Toronto has 4.9 million people.
That gives them roughly the same ratios (1 in 37,000 for Seattle, 1 in 34,000 for Toronto).
What conclusions can we draw? None really, but if you wanted to you could probably agree that the Seattle area and the Toronto area have roughly similar percentages of socially awkward nerds.
Re:The Quiet Majority (Score:1)
Canadians bad at math? (Score:1)
Please, Americans can't even add up ballots.
Re:The Quiet Majority (Score:3, Funny)
I think I can explain some of this. Perth is fairly boring :P
Re:The Quiet Majority (Score:2)
Apparently, compared to Adelaide, it's a positive hive of excitement and fun:
That would be a lot cooler if it were 1000 places down, though... (=
(Note for the non-Aussies: Adelaide and Perth are State capitals with quite a lot of similarities, including population sizes. Adelaide, however, is renowned for being the most boring place in au.)
Mandrake 9.0 b1 (Score:1)
My Slashdot Meeting Invitation (Score:3, Funny)
SLASHDOT GET TOGETHER
Please bring the following items:
Re:My Slashdot Meeting Invitation (Score:1)
Seattle (Score:2)
Ok so granted most of the high tech companies around here
Err, but crud. With Real Networks, McNeel Software, Wild Tangent, Immunex, and so forth all around here, why doesn't Seattle have a few hundred people minimum signed up? Not to mention Boeing, Starbucks, Seattle's Best Coffee, and other Nerd and Geek related enterprises.
Re:Seattle (Score:5, Funny)
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Then C-Net casually mentions: (Score:5, Interesting)
So Intel chips get the headline but Athlon MP rackmounts do the serious computation. I bet if ILM had found a top-tier vendor with a decent Athlon business (vs. consumer) desktop configuration they'd have Athlon XP's on their desktops too. Or Athlon MP dual CPU workstations, which cost about the same as a high-end uniprocessor P4. Having fought with some thoroughly screwed up Dell Optiplexes recently, the support geeks at ILM have my sympathies.
(Not that the whole business vs. consumer thing really matters, until you try to convince purchasing of that point...)
RedHat review is fair (Score:1)
I haven't tried the beta yet, but it mentions a screen resolution changing tool. What exactly is this? Is it a tool that just changes the viewport size? Or does it in fact change the entire desktop's resolution? I hope it is the latter because I hate modlines.
Mandrake 9.0 beta review (Score:1)
So I finally got all three ISO's DL'd by 9 PM last night. Tucked in the missus and slunk down to the den where the dual celeron 533 / 256 Mb / nVidia Gforce awaited my fresh meat like a hungry lion.
Next thing I booted up with disk 1, and the installer came up with a dialog (install from FTP/HTTP/CDROM/HD). I was going to upgrade from Mandrake 8.2, but the RPM database update took too long, so screw it. Hit reset. Repartition and blow it away. Format, check for bad blocks, select individual packages. I installed most of the workstation goodies, and GNOME as my WM. XFree 3.3.6 had 3D support. This is a media PC, hooked up to the stereo, and by 10:30 had a nice little desktop going. Moz 1.0, GNOME 2.0, no OpenOffice, nothing fancy, but very stable, and XMMS works like a champ. Grabbed some files and played DJ for a couple of hours today. Schwweet.
BTW, did anyone else see that Senator Tom Daschle posted a comment onOn a slightly off-topic note, how many goverments around the world are investigating Open Source? Britian, Peru, China, Russia, Norway, all this year. Seems like there is a wind of change blowing through many goverments. Maybe our goverment (USA) may want to investigate as well.
Re:Mandrake 9.0 beta review (Score:2)
While this is true, it is sub-optimal.
What you really want to do is tell it to install XFree 4.x, then go to nvidia.com and download the latest drivers and install them.
Your 3D acceleration will be much faster.
Mandrake does not include these drivers because they are not Open Source.
When Mandrake's installer tells you that only Xfree 3.x had 3D support for your Geforce, that's because those are the only 3D drivers *it* has. The official nvidia drivers are better, and XFree 4.x kicks ass over 3.x any day.
Re:Mandrake 9.0 beta review (Score:1)
Right on! Right now I just wanted to kick the tires on a stock ML install. No 3D games right now, just a music box.
Thanks fur the tip. I will try it later.
MLHILM, Rama, and CNet .. (Score:1)
Valenti (Score:1)
"Jack Valenti, spokesman of the MPAA, continued to make himself an easy target by insisting at one point that his group did not oppose the VCR."
Do you think this was an attempt at revisionism or did he really mean that his group did not successfully oppose the VCR?
Re:please clarify (Score:1)
Re:please clarify (Score:1)
Re:please clarify (Score:1)
>would that be four thousand five hundred people, or
>four to five hundred people?
Four thousand five hundred.
In most of Europe, a space is used to seperate groups of digits, the comma is used to seperate real from fractional part (reasoning being that a dot is likely to be less visible)
>it's a big difference; so please let us (me,
>anyway) know.
Warning, culturally isolated Americans at work.
Re:please clarify (Score:2)
To ensure that things get really complicated, some of us crazy europeans use a comma to seperate real and fractional parts and a DOT to seperate groups of digits (thousands, millions etc.). So where I come from (Denmark), 4500 could be written as 4.500, which I'm sure would confuse the American audience far more than 4 500. It's going out of style though - most young people don't seperate groups of digits in ordinary numbers, probably because of the confusion it often causes. We're a small country with limited resources for localization, so a lot of stuff used in higher education is foreign (typically anglo-american), where the 4,500.0 style is rampant. So to deal with that, we take away the grouping seperators and use a comma or dot interchangably as a real/frational seperator. :-)
Confused? You should be - we are
Re:What is Sladhback? (Score:5, Informative)
Yeah I suppose a newbie might not understand it first off. Slashback revisits stories posten recently with some interesting (and sometimes vital) additional info or clarifications. They usually do around one or two slashbacks a week. These are the articles where replys to the editorial team like "Thats not true!!" or "You should have also had a link to this..." go.
Re:What is Slashback? (Score:4, Informative)
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