No Java JRE on Pocket PC 25
Ben writes "I have an Open Letter to Sun at the PersonalJava forum (7th June) requesting Sun Micrososystems produce a free Java JRE for Microsoft Pocket PC - its over year and a half ago since they stopped work on one.
If you're wondering why you should care its because Microsoft is the only competitor in that market and has no real competition. Java should flourish on mobile devices, why is Sun letting Microsoft get a foothold with .NET?
If you are a Java developer for mobile devices please add a note of support to this open letter."
Why? (Score:3, Insightful)
Jeode (Score:5, Interesting)
Wonka on Zaurus (Score:3, Insightful)
Java and
Inferno or "Why I don't care about Java" (Score:1, Interesting)
It's a Virtualised OS in Windows/FreeBSD/Linux,plan9 and also runs native on x86, ARM & others
Dennis Ritchie is one of it's fathers, what more could you ask for?
Virtualising the OS means it's feels like the bare metal but's it's just a reflection map.
It truly is "write once, run anywhere".
Re:Inferno or "Why I don't care about Java" (Score:5, Insightful)
Check out IBM... (Score:5, Informative)
The good news (and bad) is it is a full commercial offering, and I know there are other ones out there... Iâ(TM)m of the camp that Sun should produce reference JDKâ(TM)s rather than commercial / performance ones â" especially on the J2EE side. Way back when, I remember Sun seemed to be more worried about license revenue than shipping something compelling. Perhaps they did not want to compete with the partners⦠A functional SDK is nice, but not needed from them â" there are others.
For me, I got seduced back into c/c++ when I dropped Familiar Linux [handhelds.org] on my pocket pc. Never went back.
While you're at it (Score:4, Informative)
Re:While you're at it (Score:2, Interesting)
The [IBM] J2ME runtime will be "developed and fine-tuned" for the Tungsten line, and will be backed up by a free SDK that will work with any J2ME development environment, though IBM will naturally by touting its WebSphere Studio Device Developer set, which it will be optimising for the creation of Palm-hosted Java apps.
Re:While you're at it (Score:1)
It's not as versatile as PersonalJava (which is now called CDC/Personal Profile), but because it's put in a lot of mobiles (and more to come), it's interesting nevertheless.
midp4palm [sun.com].
So... what's in it for Sun? (Score:2)
Superwaba (Score:2, Informative)
HP Chai (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:HP Chai (Score:3, Interesting)
--Dan
Probably too late (Score:3, Informative)
Now my new (successful) company has us developing C# on PocketPC, and it is.. well.. after struggling so much with all the feature incomplete JVM's for PocketPC out there.. it is.. a dream
Sure, I would prefer to be a Java developer, but Sun should be more serious about the 'write once, run anywhere' idea. This lack of support for a well established platform may well give many companies a reason to move to
A released JRE 1.2 would be nice, but with all the great features now available in Visual Studio 2003, I doubt it could make a serious comeback after so much neglect.
Java Support on X-Scale Devices (Score:1)
Re:WHY? (Score:1)
.Net (Score:1)
.NET CF is winning (Score:2, Informative)
My group has tried to use java (jeode) on an IPAQ. The performance was awful. Supposedly, NSIcom's creme is much better, but it STILL uses the old personaljava 1.2 spec (JDK 1.1.8 subset). We switched to
SUN doesn't help matters by continuing to push a J2ME marketing blitz without a real and fast development effort behind it. All those dreamy J2ME whitepapers add up to little more than a small number of java apps on some cell phones (never actually s