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L.A. County Bans Use Of "Master/Slave" Term

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the sub-instead-taxpayer-scum/righteous-despot dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 2143

SlashChick writes "In an interesting twist on political correctness, L.A. County has banned the use of the terms 'Master/Slave' (commonly used to denote hard drive arrangements.) According to Snopes.com, 'someone within the County bureaucracy... had taken offense at "master/slave" references and complained to the board.' L.A. County now requires that vendors working with the county remove all 'master/slave' references. Incredible. Read the full story."

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Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553248)

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For the love of all that's good and holy (5, Insightful)

tehdely (690619) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553251)

Funny that my first instinct was to check Snopes, and what do you know but that's the provided link. Shows how patently ridiculous this story seemed at first.

Hasn't this obsession with sanitizing speech become a total farce? What's next? Will we not be able to have male and female ends on our 1/4" audio cable for fear of offending the transgendered? How the hell am I supposed to shop for wires now?

Re:For the love of all that's good and holy (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553310)

shh, don't give them any ideas.

Re:For the love of all that's good and holy (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553347)

Who wants to bet it was a nigger? :-)

Re:For the love of all that's good and holy (4, Insightful)

Gyan (6853) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553348)

Hasn't this obsession with sanitizing speech become a total farce?

It's not total ...yet

When will it be okay to use the word 'slave'? It has a fairly distinct meaning. Should the possible offence, in this case, almost non-existent, cause the word to be abolished altogether because of what people connote the word with?

Re:For the love of all that's good and holy (5, Funny)

cgenman (325138) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553367)

Will we not be able to have male and female ends on our 1/4" audio cable for fear of offending the transgendered?

There have always been male / female converters for cabling. If only humans were so lucky.

Re:For the love of all that's good and holy (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553374)

For the LOVE OF THE CHILDREN, and the Safety of the US, we need to pass more laws like the Patriot ACT!

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No Master/Slave? (5, Funny)

Ridgelift (228977) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553254)

To verify that this wasn't a hoax or an internal joke which mistakenly escaped to the wider world of the Internet, we called the Purchasing and Contract Services division for the County of Los Angeles, and they informed us that yes, they did issue this message, and yes, it was meant seriously. The representative we spoke with said that someone within the County bureaucracy -- a person who probably didn't understand computer terminology -- had taken offense at 'master/slave' references and complained to the board, whereupon the Internal Services Department was obligated to issue notification requesting that vendors refrain from using that terminology.

Okay, how about "Pimp/Bitch"? The guy who recommended this needs to be fired before his ideas continue to procreate.

Re:No Master/Slave? (2, Insightful)

GenSolo (444636) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553293)

Seriously... what the hell are we supposed to call them? Master/Slave is the most accurate way to describe the damn things! Maybe to be PC they'll just call them the dominant and submissive drives instead?

Re:No Master/Slave? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553373)

How about "ID 0" and "ID 1" as if they were SCSI?

Re:No Master/Slave? (-1, Flamebait)

uptownguy (215934) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553380)

Seriously... what the hell are we supposed to call them?

Get over it. Primary/Secondary is a perfectly valid way to refer to drive relationships and it doesn't offend people. I've been doing this for years, myself. I don't see the problem. Unless you want to offend people because you, personally, don't see the problem. What is so hard about referring to things in a new way?

Re:No Master/Slave? (1)

intermodal (534361) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553320)

I've been calling them pimp and bitch for years, you copyright-infringer!

How about Government/Taxpayer? (4, Funny)

Chuck Chunder (21021) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553354)

Seems like an appropriate alternative.

My response to the county (5, Informative)

daveschroeder (516195) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553255)

From: Dave Schroeder <das@doit.wisc.edu>
Subject: Computer terminology
Date: November 24, 2003 12:27:14 PM CST
To: jsandoval@isd.co.la.ca.us
Cc: seconddistrict@bos.co.la.ca.us, thirddistrict@bos.co.la.ca.us, fourthdistrict@bos.co.la.ca.us, fifthdistrict@bos.co.la.ca.us, firstdistrict@bos.co.la.ca.us

Regarding the recent memo sent to a county vendor regarding "master/slave", it may interest you to know that this is, and has been for years, the accepted and only terminology that refers to the hierarchy of the most commonly used computer hard drive interface in the world, known as "IDE" or "ATA". It may also interest you to know one of the definitions of "master" and "slave" according to Merriam-Webster:

master - 3 a master mechanism or device
slave - 5 a device that is directly responsive to another

And from the definitive reference on the English language, Oxford University's Oxford English Dictionary:

http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry /00303043
master - e. A component of a system which controls or regulates the operation of one or more of the system's other components. Cf. SLAVE n. 5b. See also master-slave, sense C. 6.

slave - c. techn. Used to denote a subsidiary device, esp. one which is controlled by, or which follows accurately the movements of, another device.

master-slave a. (attrib.) (b) chiefly Electronics and Computing, designating or relating to a system in which one component controls the behaviour of one or more other components.

The names "master" and "slave" are codified in the official ANSI ATA-1 interface standard, X3.221-1994, titled "AT Attachment Interface for Disk Drives". You may be aware that ANSI, the American National Standards Institute, is the largest standards body in the United States. It would seem odd that a county purchasing agency would want to throw out well established standard names created over years of cooperation and deliberation by scientists, engineers, and standards experts. Further, almost every hard disk currently in the possession of the county has the words "MASTER" and "SLAVE" printed directly on them. Perhaps it would be an interesting exercise to destroy this labeling on each drive, spending thousands of manhours and voiding manufacturers' warranties in the process. Your next computing equipment bid will likely be an interesting one, since all hard drive manufacturers refer to their drives using the same terminology.

Insisting that vendors comply with the requirements in the memo makes the county look extremely, extremely foolish, and directly flies in the face of accepted, descriptive technical names for device interaction. You may also wish to caution your vendors about using the words "male" and "female" in the description of plumbing and electrical fixtures.


Dave Schroeder
Los Angeles County native

cc: County Board


http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/std _ATA.htm

Single, Master and Slave Drives and Jumpering
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/c onf_Jumpering.htm

INCITS Technical Committee 13 (T13), responsible for X3.221-1994

Re:My response to the county (1)

HBI (604924) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553324)

I take my hat off to you sir, that is a well written reply.

I hope at least one politician in your region is not a total idiot.

Best of luck.

Re:My response to the county (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553414)

I hope at least one politician in your region is not a total idiot.

hehe im arnoild tolk to teh hand hehe

Simple solution? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553375)

Mandate SCSI. Or just call them M and S, standing for... oh... main and second. (scratching out the 'aster' and 'lave'

slave overlords? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553257)

I for one welcome our new slave overlords?

I, for one,... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553291)

do NOT welcome our aging P.C. overlords.

I think it's a great idea. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553261)

Let's use some other term for that. What about white/black?

Re:I think it's a great idea. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553343)

"nigger" and "cracker"

Re:I think it's a great idea. (1)

Vihai (668734) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553402)

I'd propose The Giver/The Receiver

They think that's bad (4, Funny)

helix400 (558178) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553268)

Wow, I wonder what they'll say when they realize why some computer cables ends are called male and female.

Re:They think that's bad (4, Funny)

niko9 (315647) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553313)

"Wow, I wonder what they'll say when they realize why some computer cables ends are called male and female."

Wait 'till you tell them said cables are being used on a computer running a "stoned beaver" OS kernel!

Re:They think that's bad (1)

vistic (556838) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553349)

"my god.
think of the children."

Name Change (5, Funny)

mvpll (542255) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553269)

So now we have to have dominant and submissive hard drives???

Re:Name Change (4, Funny)

helix400 (558178) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553298)

I personally am hoping for oppressor/oppressee. It's much for fun to use, and it's even less politically correct. =)

Re:Name Change (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553322)

But what do you call a drive that shits its self?

Re:Name Change (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553399)

Western digital?

sex shops too? (4, Funny)

searleb (168974) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553270)

what about all the sex shops in LA County?

Re:sex shops too? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553407)

Considering the subject line of the message this would seem to be of utmost importance.


I'm pretty sure we all know how responsible our politicians are. *cough*

eh? (4, Insightful)

Graspee_Leemoor (302316) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553271)

It's not an "interesting twist" on political correctness, it's just another example of it.


GNAA doesnt like the term slave (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553274)

It just keeps us brothers down

Well ..... (0, Redundant)

taniwha (70410) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553276)

We better be carefull and not tell them abot the sexing of plugs and connectors ....

Local economy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553277)

I wonder how this will impact the film industry...

What does the county prefer? (4, Funny)

Gyan (6853) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553279)


Re:What does the county prefer? (2, Funny)

u-235-sentinel (594077) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553405)

Next thing you know they will outlaw "Master and Commander" from viewing in LA Country.

Get real.

Political Correctness is pure egotistical B.S. (4, Insightful)

eaglebtc (303754) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553280)

I think this whole practice of political correctness should be done away with. It is twisting our language too rapidly and preventing the free exercise of speech. Politicians have to grow and pair and get some thicker skin. They must realize that a language develops because people make new terms and apply new definitions to existing words based on events with which they are familiar. You cannot force us to speak differently just so a puny minority will not be offended.

Politicians, I think it is YOU who are offended, not the minority which you claim to represent!

In California (1)

tarquin_fim_bim (649994) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553282)

They tend to favour the term DOM/SUB [domsublifestyle.com] quirky I know, but there is a howto [tripod.com] .

Re:In California (3, Funny)

Stile 65 (722451) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553363)

That's Dom/sub, you insensitive clod!

How about instead of Master and Slave... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553285)

...we use Asshole Bureaucrat and Fucked-up-the-asshole taxpayer. My libertarian nature tells me any way you jumper your hard drives is alright with me. Heck, even cable select is a-okay with me.

mixed priorities (3, Insightful)

ActionPlant (721843) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553286)

This is sad and funny at the same time. I can see where someone could potentially be offended to merely hear the terms used, but use some common sense people! Hasn't anyone heard of context? When political correctness stretches so far as to have government offices relabling hard drive configurations to imply that while some drives may not be as gifted as others, all are created equal...I laugh. I've been through my share of drives in my day, and I can guarantee that not all are created equal.

How pathetic have we become? Something like this can only be laughed at, and never really measured.



Oh dear (1)

matth (22742) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553292)

Oh Dear,
What is the world coming to. What are we going to call them? Surfs and Pesants? White Collar/Blue Collar? Good grief....
MASTER - Takes control/precidence (first drive to boot)
SLAVE - Follows after...

Well... (5, Funny)

daveschroeder (516195) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553294)

...they could always go all SCSI.

Re:Well... (5, Funny)

mariox19 (632969) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553329)

...they could always go all SCSI.

And risk offending the homeless?!

this is retarded (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553299)

I live in LA. This PC BS has gone far enough!! More than just black people were slaves. Romans had slaves, greeks had slaves, the chinese have slave labor. dammit, the whole master-slave thing accurately describes the connection between the devices

Oh Jesus... ...Jesus Christ! (0)

Prince Cyph0r (679537) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553300)

Oh dear, what will happen to our favorite south park duo, Mr. Garrison and his assistant, Slave?

Sounds like someone elses problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553301)

I hate to affend California, but this sounds more like a sexual harrasment problem among employees. I feel they should be dealing with this other ways. They are going cause a major pain in everyones butt, and I'm sure the problem will only go away temporarily. They will find something else to comment on.

First things first (5, Insightful)

orthogonal (588627) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553303)

LA County has banned the use of the terms 'Master/Slave'

Is this the same LA County that has rampant police corruption and brutality problems?

The one in the state, California, that is facing a massive deficit?

Glad to know they have their priorities right.

Re:First things first (1)

eaglebtc (303754) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553330)

I'm just glad I don't live in LA County.

MOD PARENT UP (+1 Insightful)

Hmm... replacement suggestions (1)

winkydink (650484) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553304)



Re:Hmm... replacement suggestions (1)

cryptor3 (572787) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553393)

How about "mid-cable" and "end-cable."

It's just a request (4, Insightful)

Our Man In Redmond (63094) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553305)

Even so, it's a pointless request, and if enforced would probably mean that LA County couldn't buy hard drives at all, since most drives have clear labels on how to set the "master" and "slave" jumpers.

Uh oh, this post is probably officially data non grata in Los Angeles COunty now.

Re:It's just a request (1)

barc0001 (173002) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553333)

No, no, no. They'll just have to switch to SCSI, and pay twice as much. That'll learn them!

I for one... (0)

Stile 65 (722451) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553309)

...am glad I don't live there.

What, you were expecting an overlords joke?

Re:I for one... (1)

Enry (630) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553335)

I for one welcome our non-overlords-joke-telling overlords. Or should I say masters?

gosh darn... (0)

mfivis (592345) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553311)

Female ports are so useless, all we need are magnetically attracted male tips to all of our wires.

I for one (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553316)

welcome equal rights for all devices. ....Oh, and our PC overlords.


Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553317)

Now there is no way I going to be able to sell them my new exploit prevention software, the MS Buttplug.

Female/Male next? (5, Funny)

FunWithHeadlines (644929) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553318)

"I need a mouse adaptor, please. Female to male."

"I'm sorry, sir, but that is politically incorrect language."

"Uh, ok, um, lemme see. Can I please have a mouse adaptor where one end has pins sticking out and one end has holes to fill."

"You trying to be funny with me, boy?"

"Ugh, ok, never mind. Just give me a master/slave controller."

"That's it, I'm calling the police, pervert!"

Alternative? (4, Funny)

Dimwit (36756) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553319)

AsksPolitelyDrive / HappyWorkerDrive?

PresidentDrive / VicePresidentDrive?


(My favorite...)
WillyWonkaDrive / OompaLoompaDrive?

There's the obvious "Parent/Child" possibility, but since the actual standard uses the terms "Master/Slave", I really think this is overreaction on the county's part...

free the hard drives! (1)

endx7 (706884) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553321)

Are we gonna have a "Free The Hard Drive March" now?

Florida Rejoices (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553323)

At least we're not the stupidest state any longer. (Yeah, i know LA County isn't a state.)

Hey.... (1)

ambienceman (721763) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553326)

What about cable select?

hrmm so (2, Insightful)

digitalsushi (137809) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553328)

one of these days, prison is where all the thinking people are going to end up and run the outside world from. and our prison utoptia will be the land of guarded walls and milk and honey and high speed internet, and we'll all hang out all day reading books and surfing the web and writing more laws to keep us safer from the outside, while they slave away paying to keep us incarcerated, blissfully unawares of their own capture, as the walls grow outwards and the outside becomes the inside. and our uniforms will regress to suits and the the mobius strip will turn once again. btw im drunk

What they should call them (1)

wed128 (722152) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553336)

i'm thinking employer and assistant, or, thing 1 and thing 2

I don't know any other way to say this (1)

schild (713993) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553337)

This is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. This is exactly why I'm opposed to political correctness. /schild

Request or require? (5, Insightful)

noname3 (580108) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553339)

"L.A. County Bans use of Master/Slave Term. ...
LA County now requires that vendors working with the county remove all 'master/slave' references."

Contrast this to the snopes article, which says: The County of Los Angeles has requested that equipment vendors avoid using the industry term "Master/Slave" in product descriptions and labelling.

There's a big difference between request and require. And banned? Hardly. I doubt anyone's going to get fined or sued over this.

Master/Slave should be phased out (3, Funny)

Waffle Iron (339739) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553341)

Master/Slave should be phased out. Edge-triggered logic is more modern and robust.

Help Help I am being repressed! (4, Funny)

Herkum01 (592704) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553342)

All I can say is thank god! Now we will have liberated hardware able to do its own thing. Write when it wants to write, read when it wants to read and just in general do whatever it likes, regardless of what it was supposed to do.

Much like Windows.

ENOUGH OF THIS! (1, Insightful)

SLASHAttitude (569660) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553344)

I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS CRAP!!!! (felt like I was on A O hell there for second) I can not believe how far political correctness has gone in this country. What next a ban on using the terms male/female?

Not "banned" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553346)

Apparently neither the submitter nor the editors RTFA. (Surprise, surprise.)

They sent a letter requesting that the terms be changed. They did not, in fact, "ban" the use of the terms master and slave.

Quite a bit better IMHO, although still too PC-obsessive...

G'dammit! (2, Funny)

Otter (3800) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553350)

2003-11-21 21:06:11 LA County bars "Master/Slave" labels on ha (articles,humor) (rejected)

Geez, first I get this story rejected last week. Then I have to reject so many cookies from snopes.com that I miss getting first post when it does appear. Then some new spyware the IT fuckwits installed on my work desktop slows the system to a crawl again and I have to switch to my laptop just to whine!

Why discriminatory? (2, Funny)

slavemowgli (585321) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553352)

I still fail to see what actually is discriminatory about the terms "Master" and "slave".

L.A. County Bans Use Of "Master/Slave" Term (1)

pipingguy (566974) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553355)

snopes usually provides references. For this one there are none. Ever heard of The Repository of Lost Legends?

But is their money where their mouth is? (5, Funny)

Phredd (15463) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553358)

Will L.A. County officials put their money where their mouths are and buy all new equipment to replace any that uses this offensive terminology? Or are they too niggardly?

I picture a manual burning (1)

t0qer (230538) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553359)

Big bonfire of motherboard, and IDE drive manuals being burned to summon the spirits of James Dean Marilyn Monroe, and Elvis.

This is indeed worrisome (1)

Alaska Jack (679307) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553362)

I hope the master/slave devices weren't coupled together with male/female connectors.

Replacement for Master/Slave (1)

Lead Butthead (321013) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553364)

"Butthead and Stupid Follower"

Oh yeah? (5, Funny)

achurch (201270) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553368)

Well, I ban the word "County" because "Count" is a title in an archaic nobility system that has no place in modern American culture. Take that, L.A. *****y!

Re:Oh yeah? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553384)

better ban the word country too because it sounds like cuntry.

Did anyone suggest: (1)

DeltaSigma (583342) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553369)

Republican/Democrat as a replacement yet?

Re:Did anyone suggest: (1)

wed128 (722152) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553401)

or maybe Cheney(master) and Bush(slave)...

Master/Slave designation should be replaced with.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553371)

...Real State/California designation.

Other funny tech words (5, Funny)

ryanhos (125502) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553378)

At my first programming job, we shared an open office with the sales people. We started designing this large system with small group meetings in the common area of the office. We kept talking about "forking children" and "killing children" and our master process was called the "mother." Finally one of the more ditzy sale women came back and asked us to explain our disturbing terminology. She didn't think that "forking babies" was proper office talk. She was okay with it once we explained the terminology.

Master/Slave (1)

anthony_dipierro (543308) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553388)

Will now be replaced with Slave/Master

I never used those words anyway (5, Funny)

donscarletti (569232) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553389)

That doesn't worry me in the slightest. I have never had a master and slave on any of my IDE chains. I simply have "the butch" and "the bitch".

This means that I would have no problem moving to L.A. But I think my hard drives would feel more at home in San Francisco.

Why use master/slave in the first place? (1)

identity0 (77976) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553392)

Okay, I agree that this is way too PC, and furthermore, the gov't should *not* be mandating technical terms just because they might offend.

That said, why do we use the master/slave terminology in the first place? It has negative connotations even if you're not black, jewish, etc. and it does not fit the actual situation in some cases. For example, as I understand it the 'master' IDE drive does not control the 'slave', they are both 'slaves' to the IDE controller. How did this terminology start?

YOU are still a slave (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553394)

they just pay you thesedays, you are still a prisoner in your job

You know what I've always hated... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553395)

I hate to have to "submit" information in a web form, as if the computer has some great power that I must "submit" to. Hence, whenever I design something for the web, I use a term such as "send" for that button.

In Socialist California (5, Funny)

notcreative (623238) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553396)

Here in America, you label drives "Master/Slave" for correctness.

In Socialist California, the label correctness slaves master YOU!

Get real (1)

StealthHunter (597677) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553406)

Some people just need to stay away from copmuters, it's not like the Hard Drives care, it's not hurting their feelings, they are not be suppressed...

Automobile clutches too (2, Interesting)

natpoor (142801) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553408)

The clutch assembly in cars have a master and a slave cylinder (well I'm not an expert, but at least manuals do).

Mine went out once. You can't engage the clutch anymore!

Insert snarky remark about oppressing the auto industry here.

California: prisoner abuse capital of the USA! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553409)

California has by some measures the greatest amount of prisoner abuse in the United States. They are toruring prisoners and being PC about verbage. This is _sickening_

Of course it's offensive! (4, Funny)

UserChrisCanter4 (464072) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553410)

Look at the labeling. Point of Manufacture on these things are Malaysia, Thailand, Hungary, etc. They're shipped 20 and 30 to a 3'x4' packing crate, against their will. Forced to endure this trip without food or water, these poor mass-storage devices are then forced to spin at 5400 and sometimes 7200 revolutions per minute, without breaks, in dusty and hot environments.

I'm glad someone in California has at least taken the initiative to keep them from being referred to as slaves. The next step is a move to an 8-hour workday (although I think IBM already recommends that on some of their Deskstar line), and two 15-minute breaks per work period (I can do without swap for a few minutes, I guess). Of course, I hope they realize the negative connotations of the term "Server"

car brakes too (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#7553411)

the standard hydrolic car brake system relies on master cylinders and slave cylinders. I guess they'll be in the market for new brakes for all county vehicles.

I don't want a PC PC! (3, Funny)

paranerd (672669) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553412)

Sorry. I should have resisted.

I suppose Male and Female are next? (1)

robdeadtech (232013) | more than 11 years ago | (#7553413)

and I don't mean Male = Master
and Female = slave.

what about Master / Subordinate?
or Master / Pupil?

So is this an S&M beef or a racism beef? or both?!?!

I propose Pimp and Ho.
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