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Windows 2000 & Windows NT 4 Source Code Leaks

CmdrTaco posted more than 10 years ago | from the making-the-rounds dept.

Microsoft 2764

PeterHammer writes "Neowin.net is reporting that Windows 2000 and Windows NT source code has been leaked to the internet. More on this as we hear it."

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it's true (5, Insightful)

sperling (524821) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262299)

A quick peek around indeed shows something named Windows.Source.Code.w2k.nt4.wxp.tar circulating, but this had to happen sooner or later, considering the number of institutions [microsoft.com] with access to the source. Wonder how long it'll take before a torrent of new worms using newly discovered security holes tear up the net.

I for one would love to peek around in this, more out of curiosity than any desire to actually do something useful with it.

So much for security through obscurity (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262419)

This pretty much destroy's any argument that Windows is more secure because "the bad guys" can't look at the source code. And yet it won't get the positive aspect of "the good guys" reviewing the source code for bugs as it is illegal to make a copy of the code without a license to do so.

Re:it's true (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262431)

I wonder how long till hackers go in and fix some of the bugs. That's the real danger to microsoft, if the bugs were fixed people wouldn't have to upgrade.

Re:it's true (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262448)

Mirror here [warp2search.net]

Open Source (5, Funny)

The_Rippa (181699) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262300)

Now will everyone stop bitching about Windows not being open source?!

Re:Open Source (1)

jps3 (2870) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262325)

I could not have said it better myself! :-)

New Licensing Model (4, Funny)

MADCOWbeserk (515545) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262357)

GLL - General Leaked-Souce license

Re:Open Source (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262401)

Bill Gates is pissed!! HAHAHA! Take that Mr. Chairman!

Re:Open Source (5, Funny)

eyegor (148503) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262408)

Actually, now Microsoft can pull a SCO and sue anyone who produces an OS with lots of security holes and cruft.

FP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262302)

If a windows client falls in the forest and noone is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

Server problems ALREADY... (5, Informative)

momerath2003 (606823) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262304)

"The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later."

Later isn't going to work, since the server was down even before it hit the Slashdot front page. I empathize with their server.

I did, however, managed to grab the news blurb (but not the, at that point, 214 comments) from the intermittent front page:

Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news. It would appear that two packages are circulating on the internet, one being the source code to Windows 2000, and the other being the source code to Windows NT. At this time, it is hard to establish whether or not full code has leaked, and this will undoubtedly remain the situation until an attempt is made to compile them. Microsoft are currently unavailable for comment surrounding this leak so we have no official response from them at the time of writing.


This leak is a shock not only to Neowin, but to the wider IT industry. The ramifications of this leak are far reaching and devastating. This reporter does not wish to be sensationalist, but the number of industries and critical systems that are based around these technologies that could be damaged by new exploits found in this source code is something that doesn't bare thinking about.

We ask that for the wider benefit of the IT community that members and readers support Microsoft by forwarding anything they know about the leak to the Microsoft's Anti-Piracy department.

Please do not post any links/screenshots/hints or anything to do with the source code outbreak. Discussion is allowed but we will not condone people spreading this source code.


Torrent, anyone? ;) (not like I would have any reason to want to have several lines of bug-infested code, as who knows to where the bugs might spread in my system)

That's it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262376)

For anyone who keeps trying, the news blurb on the front page is the exact same content that is in the forum link, minus the user comments. I was able to get in once, and there was no extra information at the original link, save for some user speculation.

Re:Server problems ALREADY... (4, Informative)

momerath2003 (606823) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262426)

Also, someone on the comments posted an alleged 2.3 MB list of the files leaked [ifi.uio.no] as well (contains no source).

It's allegedly from the file "windows_2000_source_code.zip."

(Who knows if it's real, as it's too early to tell, probably)

Re:Server problems ALREADY... (1, Funny)

Trix (5592) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262443)

What the line says...



Discussion is allowed but we will not condone people spreading this source code.


What I saw on first glance...


Discussion is allowed but we will not condone people upgrading this source code.

Re:Server problems ALREADY... (4, Interesting)

1010011010 (53039) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262459)


I hope some bright I.T. reporter will write a story about how "Linux source code leaks" are not a security issue, but part of the development process, making Linux safer than Windows. I mean, if the Windows source is so full of bad code and bad design that releasing it represents a threat to national security (Jim Allchin's words), while Linux has always had its source code freely published -- it standsto reason that Open Source software is of higher quality.

site was /.ed before story went live (2, Informative)

mpost4 (115369) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262305)

so here is the story

Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news. It would appear that two packages are circulating on the internet, one being the source code to Windows 2000, and the other being the source code to Windows NT. At this time, it is hard to establish whether or not full code has leaked, and this will undoubtedly remain the situation until an attempt is made to compile them. Microsoft are currently unavailable for comment surrounding this leak so we have no official response from them at the time of writing.

This leak is a shock not only to Neowin, but to the wider IT industry. The ramifications of this leak are far reaching and devastating. This reporter does not wish to be sensationalist, but the number of industries and critical systems that are based around these technologies that could be damaged by new exploits found in this source code is something that doesn't bare thinking about.

We ask that for the wider benefit of the IT community that members and readers support Microsoft by forwarding anything they know about the leak to the Microsoft's Anti-Piracy department.

Please do not post any links/screenshots/hints or anything to do with the source code outbreak. Discussion is allowed but we will not condone people spreading this source code.

Full Article Text (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262308)

Neowin Message
The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later.

I forsee a lawsuit (0, Troll)

alen (225700) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262310)

From the FSF and many other organizations. As well as a few more patches.

Small server they've got there (-1, Redundant)

dtfinch (661405) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262313)

It was slashdotted before it the article was visible to non-subscribers. Sorry I was unable to make a copy for the rest of you. But basically it gives no more information than you see here.

Re:Small server they've got there (1)

Dave2 Wickham (600202) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262421)

It was slashdotted before it was posted to slashdot.

Mirror of article (-1, Redundant)

SiliconJesus (1407) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262315)

Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news. It would appear that two packages are circulating on the internet, one being the source code to Windows 2000, and the other being the source code to Windows NT. At this time, it is hard to establish whether or not full code has leaked, and this will undoubtedly remain the situation until an attempt is made to compile them. Microsoft are currently unavailable for comment surrounding this leak so we have no official response from them at the time of writing.

This leak is a shock not only to Neowin, but to the wider IT industry. The ramifications of this leak are far reaching and devastating. This reporter does not wish to be sensationalist, but the number of industries and critical systems that are based around these technologies that could be damaged by new exploits found in this source code is something that doesn't bare thinking about.

We ask that for the wider benefit of the IT community that members and readers support Microsoft by forwarding anything they know about the leak to the Microsoft's Anti-Piracy department.

Please do not post any links/screenshots/hints or anything to do with the source code outbreak. Discussion is allowed but we will not condone people spreading this source code.

hmm seems a bit buggy (0)

sndtech (738958) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262317)

I just wonder why this hasn't happened sooner

Re:hmm seems a bit buggy (5, Interesting)

fishbowl (7759) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262406)

It *amazes* me that it hasn't been routine.

Windows source code is not some deep dark secret that is locked in a vault, only let out during builds for the product releases.

*MANY* people have access to the Windows source code. A number of people in my own university have it. There are strict licensing considerations, but when has that ever worked before? Surprisingly, none of the people with source access has ever pulled off the stunt where it's broadcasted. I have always wondered why.

omg (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262318)

mr billy is gonna be so pissed!

The shit will hit the fan + Mirror (-1, Redundant)

Dr Reducto (665121) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262321)

The server is already slashdotted, but I think this is major if it is true. Microsoft's legal dept is probably planning an all-nighter tonight, and will be working in shifts to frantically sue people who are connected in any way with this. Here is a Mirror Though, just so you can RTFA. I could barely get through even before it was "published": "Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news. It would appear that two packages are circulating on the internet, one being the source code to Windows 2000, and the other being the source code to Windows NT. At this time, it is hard to establish whether or not full code has leaked, and this will undoubtedly remain the situation until an attempt is made to compile them. Microsoft are currently unavailable for comment surrounding this leak so we have no official response from them at the time of writing. This leak is a shock not only to Neowin, but to the wider IT industry. The ramifications of this leak are far reaching and devastating. This reporter does not wish to be sensationalist, but the number of industries and critical systems that are based around these technologies that could be damaged by new exploits found in this source code is something that doesn't bare thinking about. We ask that for the wider benefit of the IT community that members and readers support Microsoft by forwarding anything they know about the leak to the Microsoft's Anti-Piracy department." If this is true, the shit will definitely hit the fan. I wonder how this was done. The IP contained in Win2k/NT is worth BILLIONS(arguably). They obviously would have some serious security on it. On a lighter note: When will we see some tricked out Windows 2000 "Distros"? ,Could this potentially help the WINE Project?, Is anyone working on replacing IE with Konquerer?, Will this be able to help the effort to make driver "wrappers"?

Re:The shit will hit the fan + Mirror (1, Interesting)

Dr Reducto (665121) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262384)

My formatting was fucked up, but Ill repost without the Mirror, since everyone else posted the mirror:

The server is already slashdotted, but I think this is major if it is true. Microsoft's legal dept is probably planning an all-nighter tonight, and will be working in shifts to frantically sue people who are connected in any way with this.

If this is true, the shit will definitely hit the fan. I wonder how this was done. The IP contained in Win2k/NT is worth BILLIONS(arguably). They obviously would have some serious security on it.

On a lighter note: When will we see some tricked out Windows 2000 "Distros"? ,Could this potentially help the WINE Project?, Is anyone working on replacing IE with Konquerer?, Will this be able to help the effort to make driver "wrappers"?

Article Text (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262322)

"Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news. It would appear that two packages are circulating on the internet, one being the source code to Windows 2000, and the other being the source code to Windows NT. At this time, it is hard to establish whether or not full code has leaked, and this will undoubtedly remain the situation until an attempt is made to compile them. Microsoft are currently unavailable for comment surrounding this leak so we have no official response from them at the time of writing." "This leak is a shock not only to Neowin, but to the wider IT industry. The ramifications of this leak are far reaching and devastating. This reporter does not wish to be sensationalist, but the number of industries and critical systems that are based around these technologies that could be damaged by new exploits found in this source code is something that doesn't bare thinking about." "We ask that for the wider benefit of the IT community that members and readers support Microsoft by forwarding anything they know about the leak to the Microsoft's Anti-Piracy department." "Please do not post any links/screenshots/hints or anything to do with the source code outbreak. Discussion is allowed but we will not condone people spreading this source code."

The comment from the website (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262323)

Exclusive: Windows 2000 & Windows NT 4 Source Code Leaks Posted by creamhackered on 13 Feb 2004 - 00:22 | 217 comments Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news. It would appear that two packages are circulating on the internet, one being the source code to Windows 2000, and the other being the source code to Windows NT. At this time, it is hard to establish whether or not full code has leaked, and this will undoubtedly remain the situation until an attempt is made to compile them. Microsoft are currently unavailable for comment surrounding this leak so we have no official response from them at the time of writing. This leak is a shock not only to Neowin, but to the wider IT industry. The ramifications of this leak are far reaching and devastating. This reporter does not wish to be sensationalist, but the number of industries and critical systems that are based around these technologies that could be damaged by new exploits found in this source code is something that doesn't bare thinking about. We ask that for the wider benefit of the IT community that members and readers support Microsoft by forwarding anything they know about the leak to the Microsoft's Anti-Piracy department. Please do not post any links/screenshots/hints or anything to do with the source code outbreak. Discussion is allowed but we will not condone people spreading this source code.

I WILL BE TEH MOST POWARFUL JEDI EVAR!!!~!`1 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262326)

Milk Rap (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262329)

Straight to your bones,
from the farm to your fridge.
We know what you want,
cuz we know how live.
We got the big bad Bessie,
with the M-I-L-K...
We be chillin'

More milk,
uh huh uh huh uh huh
More milk,
uh huh uh huh uh huh (ooh baby)

What now? (4, Funny)

Rosyna (80334) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262332)

Are people deeply involved with OSS going to start fixing bugs in Win 2k? Might be fun and a dagger in MS's heart.

"We fix bugs in 24 to 40 hours, much faster than OSS."

Re:What now? (2, Interesting)

MikeXpop (614167) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262458)

I have no idea what and how much of windows' code is leaked, but I imagine if it's the right amount, there might be some illegal forks in the WINE project formulating.

Hmmm... (3, Funny)

TheSpoom (715771) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262333)

Do I have to sign an NDA?

Seriously, this should be pretty interesting. I wonder how many bugs are ACTUALLY in the NT kernels...

I'll believe it when I see it. (1, Insightful)

American AC in Paris (230456) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262334)

Zeroeth point: Who? Neowin.net? ...now where have I heard that name before...oh--that's right! Nowhere! It's one of umpteen-dozen Slashdot wannabe sites, your basic news feed/PHP comment page model. I can't imagine they have that much of an investigative team...

First point: The tagline for Neowin.net is "Where unprofessional journalism looks better" I'll take what they say with a block of salt.

Second point: The odds of getting one's hands on the full source to NT4/2K are slim to none--even most Microsoft folks couldn't do that. The code is probably scattered across multiple servers in Redmond, for starters, and you'd only be given access to the parts you needed to work with.

Third point: The article has absolutely no detail to it whatsoever. For all we know, they've released a trojan masquerading as the source code and are trying to sucker geeks and 14m2rZ into downloading it.

...as the site is probably going to crash hard very quickly, here's the article text:

Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news. It would appear that two packages are circulating on the internet, one being the source code to Windows 2000, and the other being the source code to Windows NT. At this time, it is hard to establish whether or not full code has leaked, and this will undoubtedly remain the situation until an attempt is made to compile them. Microsoft are currently unavailable for comment surrounding this leak so we have no official response from them at the time of writing.

This leak is a shock not only to Neowin, but to the wider IT industry. The ramifications of this leak are far reaching and devastating. This reporter does not wish to be sensationalist, but the number of industries and critical systems that are based around these technologies that could be damaged by new exploits found in this source code is something that doesn't bare thinking about.

We ask that for the wider benefit of the IT community that members and readers support Microsoft by forwarding anything they know about the leak to the Microsoft's Anti-Piracy department.

Re:I'll believe it when I see it. (5, Informative)

rritterson (588983) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262424)

While you may not have heard of Neowin before, they are actually quite well known and are often placed in those '100 essential sites' lists.

They focus primarily on windows tech, and have a knack for breaking stories about Windows- leaked builds of future versions, beta builds of service packs, etc. Whoever runs the site is well connected in Microsoft.

Re:I'll believe it when I see it. (2, Informative)

y0bhgu0d (168149) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262456)

Neowin is one of the pillars of the beta scene... they normally have news on leaked betas/previews/etc...

Mysterious future... (1)

avalys (221114) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262336)

I clicked on this while it was in the Mysterious Future. After the site loaded, I saw a "this server is too busy to service your request" notice. When I checked back on the Slashdot main page (mere seconds after clicking the link the first time), the story had been posted publicly.

Give a whole new meaning to the phrase: "Slashdotted already!?"

There is no evidence listed (2, Interesting)

PickyH3D (680158) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262338)

Other than files being named stuff, there is no evidence.

I could easily name files "windowsxp.source.tar," but that means nothing.

Slashdotted (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262339)

0 comments, and already I can't get to the site.

Is that some sort of record?

Ubiquitous /. ed Joke (0, Troll)

somethinghollow (530478) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262341)

They must have been running it on the code that was leaked. Typical of Windows to bow under pressure, and finally snap with a dry cracking sound.

No report! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262342)

They won't be able to report for a long period of time after this report :P

What's the big deal? (5, Funny)

Fluk3 (742259) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262343)

There's plenty of worthless spam on the internet already.

post (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262344)

mirrors, we need mirrors!!!

First Post (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262346)

First Post!

Too cool. (0, Redundant)

slusk (538681) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262348)

Yay! :D

The truth is in there (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262349)

OK lets see how much THEY'VE nicked from Linux.........

Instead of the sky falling... (2, Funny)

clifgriffin (676199) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262350)

Maybe peer review will send a flurry of discovered holes to Microsoft for them to patch.

Maybe this will be positive for all of mankind!

Or maybe I'm crazy.

Finaly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262351)

A service pack that is usefull

Torrent? (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262352)

Anyone got a torrent yet?

Re:Torrent? (5, Funny)

thelasttemptation (703311) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262381)

I want a ebuild!

emerge win2000

Re:Torrent? (1, Funny)

Falshrmjgr (264237) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262425)

ROFL!!!!

chroot /mnt/win2k /windows/system32/ntkernel.exe

Re:Torrent? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262455)

c60bd616078ce954ac05c7c7b94c0c2b ;)

For those that need more proof (5, Interesting)

timdorr (213400) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262354)

Full file listing with sizes: http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~mortehu/files.txt [ifi.uio.no] I suggest mirroring ;)

Article text (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262355)

All your source are belong to us!

About bloody time. (1)

noc007 (633443) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262356)

Looks like the server is ./ed

Simpsons mode equals one (3, Funny)

defile (1059) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262359)

<Nelson>Ha ha!</Nelson>

First post!!!!!!!!!1 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262360)

First post!!!!!!!!!

Great (1, Redundant)

Gr8Apes (679165) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262361)

Now we'll have all sorts of new viruses and worms....

It is probably the aquamark/watermark (2, Interesting)

Srividya (746733) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262362)

Among the programmers I know who use the Microsoft source code, if you the "diff", there are many very small changes between the source files. It is a question, are these changes intentional, and signed, and in a database. I would think yes, there is no other reason for it.

The leaking company will soon be identified unless the code was first changed in a very strong way.

Oooh.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262363)

"More on this as we hear it".....

Thanks Dan rather.

Close you eyes! (3, Insightful)

exhilaration (587191) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262364)

...LEST YOU ARE CORRUPTED!!!

Seriously, don't look at it, you will no longer be considered "clean" and might become a liability to any project you work on.

Wow (1)

1000101 (584896) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262365)

That was fast. //you know what I'm talking about

Leaky (2, Funny)

Earl The Squirrel (463078) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262367)

Of course their source code leaks...they don't properly clean up their pointers....

Oh wait a sec...8-)

Similarities between Linux and Windows (0)

benpharr (163979) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262368)

And SCO is reporting that they have found similarities between the leaked code and Linux. They will be lending their legal expertise to Microsoft for the upcoming lawsuit.

Just don't use the code (3, Insightful)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262369)

What ever you do, don't let the code influence your projects. The last thing we want is Microsoft joining in with SCO and accusing the open source community of using MS code in an open source project such as Linux. Sure you probably wouldn't want to with its reputation, but I am sure there would be those who would be tempted.

Error message (2, Funny)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262370)

Neowin Message
The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later.


Yep, looks like an error. Must be real Windows code then...

Maybe they will rethink Open Source... (4, Funny)

viper21 (16860) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262371)

Microsoft just needed a push in the right direction, right?

-S

Mirror? (1)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262372)

Anybody seen a mirror yet? I tried looking at the article before Slashdot even posted it, but I'm guessing there was some sort of n-dimensional Internet traffic, since the article was unavailble before slashdot readers should slashdot it.

Good lord - we have the ability to impact sites in all possible times and places - the clicks so numorous is overwhelms the very fabric of space and time and overwhelms a server before a link is posted.

Oh darn... (1)

Supp0rtLinux (594509) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262373)

Well, looks like the server that got linked couldn't handle all the /. traffic. But just based on the post, did we not all think this would happen sooner or later? Knowing M$, they'll probably use this is proof as to why they shouldn't show their code. After all... governments use it. What if it gets out? Heaven forbid some Linux guys take it apart and make it better. :)

Damn.... (1, Funny)

robpoe (578975) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262374)

Now, we can see how tightly integrated Internet Exploder is into the OS...

Oh, say...If the code to IE is REALLY in there, can we have some smart, talented hacker PLEASE fix all those stupid security holes (and .. possibly some of the broken bugs too)?

Oh yeah..That's right..It's called Firefox, eh?

One a related note (5, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262375)

On a related note, Microsoft is reporting the number of bugs in Linux to have surged in recent weeks, thus proving Intellectual Property theft.

Seriously, the previous article [slashdot.org] lambasting open source for being vulnerable is nothing when compared to eyes backed with malicious intent poring over Windows source code for new exploits. So much for security through ignorance.

Oh boy... (2, Funny)

BrianGa (536442) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262378)

From the site: Please try again by pressing the refresh button in your browser.
Oh boy...

Fortune (5, Funny)

Tom Rothamel (16) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262383)

The funny thing is the fortune that appeared in the appropriate slashbox when I first saw this article.

"Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)
-- Unknown source"

Mirror With Comments (5, Informative)

RPoet (20693) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262386)

Mirror with comments [student.uib.no] .

Hope it's all just a bluff.

Fertile Ground for Foul Play (1)

vijayiyer (728590) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262388)

I guess Windows is now "Fertile Ground for Foul Play" too, like W. Russell Jones claims (from the last article)

It includes XP too... (0)

tizen (697161) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262390)

I hear it includes XP source aswell...

-tiz

Bittorrent? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262393)

i think we'll be needing one of those.

kthxbye.

Code (5, Funny)

daeley (126313) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262396)

...Windows 2000 and Windows NT source code has been leaked to the internet.

The Internet, however, being a polite sort of fellow and completely undesirous of the undoubtedly horrible ramifications of having such a beastie running around loose, gently replaced the source code and gave Windows a friendly pat on the head.

Nelson (0, Offtopic)

mrmookid (636392) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262397)

<nelson voice> HA HA! </nelson voice>

Nothing new ... (1)

Mr. Mai (587155) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262402)

Great! this will now confirm what we all know ... How insecure it really is!

Do NOT read that code! (5, Insightful)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262405)

Do NOT read that code if you ever wish to program for an open source OS, ever. Doing so will make you tainted- you open the project up to allegations of copyright infringement. Unless you never want to contribute a single line to Linux, *BSD, etc, checking out that code is a bad idea. Its almost a surprise MS didn't "leak" Win 95 or 3.1 years ago to catch open source developers like this.

Leaks as a Business Strategy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262407)

Would it be a possible move against Linux to put some general Linux kernel code into the Windows codebase, then intentionally leaked it? That would allow Microsoft to claim that Open Source folks stole their ideas!

Anonymous Kev
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error.h (5, Funny)

sarice (26064) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262410)

We all know the real valuable stuff is in error.h.
So, what does it say?

Article +1 Ironic (3, Funny)

Samari711 (521187) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262412)

right after a story that was about open vs. closed source

Kernel source here (0, Offtopic)

Mr. Darl McBride (704524) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262415)

You can find the build applications and such with google already. The basic kernel is here [skittlebrau.org] (bittorrent)

So is this the beginning of something... (2, Interesting)

freerecords (750663) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262417)

as this source code is now out, can we expect people in the wine project to start using it as a basis for their coding. I'm sure it would provoke a legal battle of the SCO type (but with reason this time) but surely with a bit of clever coding and a bit of reference to this code wine could be advanced very far. Sure it's illegal, but so have many things Microsoft has done. I haven't been able to get through to that link (/.ed). This source code could, theoretically, be a big step for ReactOS and the WineX and Wine projects particularly as it is 2000 which has support for a lot of the stuff that NT does.. very exciting!

Who (1)

read-only (35561) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262418)

It will be very interesting to follow this and see who was responsible for the leak, if that is even possible. I'm guessing that Microsoft will blame someone rather than remain silent.

Could it be someone who had access to the code under NDA?

Thoughts?

HAHAHA!!! (1)

adamofgreyskull (640712) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262420)

Especially after this [slashdot.org] little doozy.

Not good (5, Insightful)

savagedome (742194) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262422)

This is not good. Windows is designed primarily with 'security by obscurity' in mind. The security holes indeed show up every often and we have worms making it to the gazillion windows boxes before the patch does. Get ready for a deluge of worms/virri. Another bad week/month for sysadmins.

So Windows is now fertile ground for foul play? (3, Funny)

Serious Simon (701084) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262432)

See previous article [slashdot.org]

The reason... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262434)

..neowin is busy already is because the story had already been on it for an hour or so ;)

Come on /.'ers, must be getting low on the caffeine! ;p

Security Implications? (1)

Curare (601307) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262435)

Considering Microsoft's record with keeping its source closed, and the amount of recycling of code they do from system to system, I wonder what security implications the source will have. Hackers might find it even easier to discover holes. Of course, it's not as though Microsoft worries that much about security in the first place...down with security through obscurity!

Slashdotted? (1)

mehlvogel (734975) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262437)

neowin.net is down - don't know if it is because of slashdot, or various other news site reporting this.

For german readers, or people understanding german here is a link
german article [computerbase.de]
reporting about the contents of the article on neowin.net

Source TREE, looking more legit now (4, Informative)

City_Idiot (715795) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262439)

http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~mortehu/files.txt I'll wait till i can download it into a lab

Question is.. (2, Informative)

DaLiNKz (557579) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262441)

I'm sure many of us want to pick at the code, but is it really worth it at the moment? Now that so many news orgs have made it well known, wouldn't it be fairly dangerous to try to grab a copy in the next comming hours? I mean, this must piss both MS and the US Gov off. ...with that said.. cant some troll be useful and..

Open Source is Dangerous??!? (2, Funny)

!3ren (686818) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262442)

Open Source is Dangerous?
How about Forcibly Opened source? ;)

How...surprising! Look! A really good reason to move from previous versions to MS's new DRM enforced versions.

Contrast (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8262444)

Linux source code found on the web--no big deal.

Windows source code found on the web--national emergency.

And people wonder why Linux people are so cocky about security, sheesh!

We Know Who To Blame (1)

danaan (728990) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262450)

This is obviously a plot by SCO to further discredit the Linux and Open Source community. Does their evil know no end?!

If this is true... (5, Insightful)

thesolo (131008) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262451)

I haven't been able to even get to Neowin, it's been slashdotted since before this story even made it to "The Mysterious Future" here on /., but think about what this means if this is actually true. The potential vulnerabilities. All the trade secrets Microsoft put in there. Hell, IE 5 was released with Windows 2000, so if this is full source, it means IE 5 and the trident engine are in there as well.

If this is true, today may be the day that everything changes.

Security by obscurity is a fools game... (1)

Yaa 101 (664725) | more than 10 years ago | (#8262462)

Need i say more?

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