New Internet Speed Record 348
Himanshu writes "Researchers have set a new data transmission record over the Internet2's high-speed backbone.
The new record announced Tuesday at the Spring 2004 Internet2 member meeting in Arlington, Va., was for transmitting data over nearly 11,000 kilometers at an average speed of 6.25 gigabits per second. This is nearly 10,000 times faster than a typical home broadband connection. The network link used to set the record spans from Los Angeles to Geneva, Switzerland."
Yup... (Score:2, Funny)
Comcast will have this soon... (Score:5, Funny)
Hard drive rate (Score:3, Interesting)
Wow... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Wow... (Score:5, Funny)
Seriously, one person did say that.
Re:Wow... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Wow... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Wow... (Score:2, Funny)
The carrier pigeons are in for some competition (Score:5, Funny)
--- JRJ
Re:The carrier pigeons are in for some competition (Score:4, Funny)
Re:The carrier pigeons are in for some competition (Score:3, Funny)
Re:The carrier pigeons are in for some competition (Score:5, Funny)
Here Kitty kitty kitty...
Re:The carrier pigeons are in for some competition (Score:4, Funny)
also.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:also.... (Score:2, Funny)
AccessGrid (Score:2, Interesting)
Sounds far fetched, but then again a great many things sound "far fetched" when considered before their coming.
We'll need pipelines
Re:also.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Trying to be cynical, I wonder how much of that new "requirement" is just using the Internet as a big, cheap backplane bus, i.e., for parallel processing.
Or maybe there's a newly crucial need for the conveniences of full-access telecommuting ...in which case the petitioning physicists may be joined by, say, Citibank.
I just hope this never gets to Joe User. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I just hope this never gets to Joe User. (Score:5, Informative)
Why? Not like bandwidth has been holding back all these cool DDoS attacks. After all, isn't that one of the points of the first 'D'?
Re:I just hope this never gets to Joe User. (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:I just hope this never gets to Joe User. (Score:2, Insightful)
Except for the fact that for Joe User in his home right now, their net connection is slower than a 10baseT. There are 10Gb nics now, which means that Joe User is already 8,000 slower than what is going into server rooms at present (assuming a broadband connect). Also ignore the fact that the speeds discussed in this article exceed the bus capability for anything on the comsumer market right now - Joe User is far from having anything 1/500 this speed for a long
eh? (Score:2)
As some have pointed out.. what does it matter if all the computers on the net us N megabits per second or M megabits per second? Now, if one of those computers from the future (with all that bandwidth) could travel back in time (or just blast its packets into the past), then it could DOS the all-fuck out of people. Now, if something about this new bandwidth technology (no I did not RTFAMFer) gives massive upload increases with relatively little download increase, then you'd have a problem. As it stands,
Re:I just hope this never gets to Joe User. (Score:3, Funny)
You must be new here. The only imagining that goes on here is about Beowulf clusters.
So when can I fax myself there? (Score:2)
Re:So when can I fax myself there? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:So when can I fax myself there? (Score:2)
We're going to need all that speed... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:We're going to need all that speed... (Score:5, Funny)
Undocumented bandwidth usage limit (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Undocumented bandwidth usage limit (Score:3, Funny)
Speed is nice... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Speed is nice... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Speed is nice... (Score:4, Funny)
PornStation
by Flynt Publishing
or maybe the iPorn from Apple, for super highspeed porn on the go
Re:Speed is nice... (Score:2, Funny)
They introduced the titanium PowerBooks with the slogan "Power and Sex" and at the same MacWorld show, introduced new G4's with the slogan "ProCreate."
Not to mention that all those nasty porn sites that try to install dialers and crap always fail on a Mac, making the Mac the best porn-surfing computer ever.
Hell, Apple has been telling people to take it up the ass for years. People complain that it hurts, but they keep buying more Macs for those "outrageous" price
Not for home (Score:3, Insightful)
In the end, it can directly benefit the home user due to the fact that the overall bandwidth is increased, meaning that you and everyone on a backbone don't get bogged down by the 50% that are downloading/spamming/etc at higher-than-average speeds.
Re:Speed is nice... (Score:2, Funny)
No, I'm sure there are plenty of porn fantasies that can come up with a use for a really big pipe.
How many wires? (Score:3, Interesting)
If it was a single pair, then DAAAAAAAMN...
Re:How many wires? (Score:2)
If it was a single pair, then DAAAAAAAMN...
If it were a single pair a 10gbps would handle this transfer easily. On a similar note, LamdaRail [virginia.edu] is like Internet2, but more geared towards research and its planning to have at least 10gbps backbone. I don't know why there isn't much more info about it. The LambaRail homepage can be found here [nationallambdarail.org], but there isn't much info there either. Being that where I work is supposed to be a participant in
[NT] How much bandwidth is 1 cat? (Score:2)
How long until broadband speeds up for mainstream? (Score:2, Interesting)
Less than 10 years?
Re:How long until broadband speeds up for mainstre (Score:5, Insightful)
a really long time (Score:2, Funny)
Re:a really long time (Score:2)
Interesting, but... (Score:5, Funny)
LoC/s (Score:5, Informative)
According to the site, the LoC [loc.gov] contains:
These are quick & dirty, back-of-the-napkin estimates:
Book/Manuscripts: (300 pp. x 500 words/page x 8 bytes/word) = ~2MB
Recording: (300 sec x 176,400 bytes/sec) = ~60MB
Photograph: 500KB (2k x 2k, jpeg q=0.8 ??)
Maps: Uhh? Vector? Raster? Hmm, lets say ~10MB?
So... throwing all those numbers together, I come out with roughly...
Oh, let's call it 250 Terabytes. (or 2 Petabits).
At only 6.25 Gb/s that works out to 320,000s, or...
only 3.7 days/LoC
Clearly, more improvement is needed... (and maybe bzip2 would help?)
Re:LoC/s (Score:2)
Re:LoC/s (Score:3, Funny)
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It's TAPES. Backup TAPES.
As often as this joke goes around, the funny part is that everytime I see it, it's been mangled in a new way...
Re: Pr0n (DVDs / sec) (Score:5, Informative)
At 6.25Gb/s, about 6 seconds. I can hear MPAA quaking in their boots. Or, if you prefer, you could stream about 600 DVDs simultaneously. *drool*
Yes... it's a SLOW day at work today. Blah...
Re: Pr0n (DVDs / sec) (Score:3, Interesting)
Alas, even RAM-based SAN devices [storagesearch.com] can't keep up with that bandwidth by half. Time to use latency of network loops as a storage mechanism. =)
Finally (Score:2, Funny)
Next item on the palm pilot....
Dial-Up and Shell Accounts (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Dial-Up and Shell Accounts (Score:3, Funny)
You know those guys were just.. (Score:2, Funny)
For Reference... (Score:2, Informative)
Jack Valenti (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Jack Valenti (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Jack Valenti (Score:3, Informative)
Here is what the campuses pay to get con [cenic.org]
Re:Jack Valenti (Score:3)
/. front page in 0.000015 seconds (Score:4, Funny)
Yes, I'm ignoring the obvious latency, but we can only dream.
Or more accurately (Score:5, Insightful)
In other words, 2 of the, what, 1000?, 2000?, 10000? nodes on internet2 have exchange data super-fast.
Well okay, but I'm sure if you reduce the number of internet1-connected computers to the same number, you'll get really really good results too.
Comparing a semi-experimental network to a mature, heavily used one, is like comparing apples and oranges, and therefore I smell marketting under this speed record announcement.
Re:Or more accurately (Score:2)
Revival of obligatory remark (Score:2, Funny)
(couldn't help it...I haven't seen any good ones recently)
Re:Revival of obligatory remark (Score:2, Funny)
(couldn't help it...I haven't seen any good ones recently)
Yeah, neither have I. Fa fa fa!!!
However... (Score:5, Funny)
However for $19.99 you can get unlimited dial-up access on Internet2 which is only 5000 times faster than a typical home broadband connection.
If it's not important, why mention it? (Score:3, Interesting)
This new transmission is 2,796,206 times faster than a 2400 baud modem!
That's an equally useless comparison but at least the number is higher. You don't get to see a useful comparison figure until the 3rd paragraph where it says that the previous record was 4GB/second. They really should first and foremost tout the 36% increase in speed over the previous record. That's pretty impressive.
Okay, but how does it get to the computer? (Score:5, Funny)
I mean, my laptop can only do Gigabit Ethernet. Will all of that data just kind of smush up on the other side of the wall until it bursts the wire?
what a NOT in-depth article (Score:5, Insightful)
who paid for this? government grants? private sponsorship? ice weasels?
who benefits from this? physics professors? lonely college students? pay per view movie download web sites?
can this technology be brought to individuals and businesses? yes? no? maybe?
what crappy reporting on such an interesting topic.
Internet 2 (Score:5, Informative)
Internet 2 [internet2.edu]
If you are wondering, "hrm, am *i* on intarwebs 2?"...most likely, no, but they have a tool to check for you, just nab it and try.
We use it heavily on campus and are quite active in the Access Grid [accessgrid.org]. Great stuff.
Sneaker net (Score:2)
Re:Sneaker net (Score:2)
Finally something that can't be.. (Score:2)
Sneakernet trumps all (yet more calculations) (Score:5, Funny)
Volume of a DVD = pi * r^2 * h = 3.141 * (.06)^2 * 1/7 *
The volume of a large SUV: [fordvehicles.com]
"With rear seats folded 5-pass: 86.2, 7-pass: 79.9"
79 cubic feet is [google.com] 2.26251604 cubic meters
2.26251604 cubic meters /
4.37 gigs / DVD * 140061.6601 DVDs = 612069.4546 gigs in one carload
Throughput speed = Data / (setup time + transmit time)
Assume a one-way transmission, one mile down the road. Assume the DVDs are packed in such a way so that loading the time spent loading the van is negigible (they're boxed well). Therefore, setup time ~= 0. Assume the van drives at an average speed of 60 mph.
1 mile / 60 mph = 60 seconds
612069.4546 gigs / 60 seconds = 10201.15758 gigs / second.
10201 >> 6.5 gigs per second. Sneakernet wins.
Re:Sneakernet trumps all (yet more calculations) (Score:2)
2. Loading time is negligible? Nope. Try loading an SUV full of anything. It takes time.
3. Where didja get all of those DVD's? Spent the last 3 months burning them?
Just some thoughts. While a high speed network is expensive, just getting all of this together (to move an SUVload of DVD's down the road) probably costs more, especially long term.
Re:Sneakernet trumps all (yet more calculations) (Score:2)
It's somewhat specious to talk about bandwidth without taking into account the computers at either end...
-h3
I could imagine the system load (Score:2)
It's sad to see that PC hardware has to play catch-up to the amount of bandwidth, or will have to soon at least.
Gentlemen, (Score:5, Funny)
The Porn Barrier is breached when a home broadband connection can download porn faster than you consume it.
For many people, a simple broadband connection has already passed their Porn Barrier, and I congratulate them.
However, after years of caffiene, video games, and desensitation via usenet and other sources, my personal Porn Barrier is still well beyond current home bandwidth availability.
This article gives me hope that one day, I too shall know the joys of passing my own Porn Barrier in the privacy of my own home.
Maybe then I can finally put that regretful day in the campus computer lab behind me, aside from the fact that I'm legally required to register when I move so that the police can notify my neighbors.
The future is bright!
They used a Windows Server (Score:2, Informative)
http://lsr.internet2.edu/history.ht
Newsflash: Record Holders Create Kazaa Supernode (Score:5, Funny)
"Within minutes of breaking the Internet speed record the elated researchers moved their entire DivX collection into a mysterious folder titled 'My Shared Folder', and began slapping high fives."
"When asked to explain their actions, the researchers only comment was 'Free pr0n!! Free pr0n!!' The exact meaning of this phrase is not yet known. -AP"
Whoop-de-shit (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Awsome.... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Awsome.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Really? Hmm... the connection ran at 6.25Gbps. That's roughly 750MBps. At that speed it would take about 330 seconds, or 5.5 minutes to fill up your HD. Of course, there are some other problems as well (HD speed, etc).
Re:Awsome.... (Score:2, Funny)
If your pipe was that big, you wouldn't _need_ porn.
Re:Awsome.... (Score:2)
Re:The should change the name (Score:2, Funny)
Re:The should change the name (Score:3, Funny)
Re:The should change the name (Score:2)
Re:The should change the name (Score:2)
eInternet Xtreme?
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MY BALLS ARE BURNING!
I've given up on "Post Anonymously"
Balls thoroughly chilled by the Einstein probe (Score:2, Funny)
Maybe you need the Einstein probe [bbc.co.uk] to cool them.
A highlight:
"To ensure accuracy, the balls must be kept chilled to near absolute zero, inside the largest vacuum flask ever flown in space and isolated from any disturbances in the quietest environment ever produced".
Re:The should change the name (Score:2)
Re:gimme dvd's on demand beeotch! (Score:2)
At these speeds, there is no need for the last D in DVD.
Re:gimme dvd's on demand beeotch! (Score:2)
Re:You know what they say... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:You know what they say... (Score:2)
Re:Stupid Question (Score:5, Informative)
For instance at your cable company's hub, let's say they can handle a total of 100,000 mbps to the internet (yes i'm generalizing) and all the customers have 100mbps to them.
They would severely lose the number of customers they could have. As few as 1000 for full speed.
Or they could charge companies a premium rate for 100mbs internet access and the average Joe user a regular fee for 3mbps (which is sufficient). They would be able to increase their customer base immensely while still providing a useful product.
It comes down to a tree analogy. Either a tree trunk can have a few large branches or it can have a whole lot of small branches. It CAN'T can't have a whole lot of large branches or the tree will break.
Re:Stupid Question (Score:2, Funny)
Answer: Yes, the sound would be. "Is our internet connection down?"
latency less, Team Fortress wins (Score:2)
Figure this, your latency should decrease since there will be less bottlenecking. (Unless some new application comes along that can hog all the bandwidth) As soon as a router gets your little bitty baby packet, it'll just pop it right along to the next router. Your latency will be determined by the speed of light, I guess, and the path the packet takes to its destination.
p
Re:What's really impressive about this... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:umm how does it work? (Score:2)
Re:So Umm... (Score:2)