Flash Mob Gang Warfare 325
TexasDex writes "You've all heard of flash mobs and Flash Mob Computing. Now here's a new twist on the flash mob phenomenon: Almost 3 dozen people were arrested for a March 3 street fight. 'What makes this case unusual is how the clash was arranged: via a profanity-laced Internet chat room.' Apparently two Dallas gangs, after trading insults in a chat room, traded their keyboards for fists and baseball bats and arranged a time to meet and duke it out in real life. The gang members were later identified and arrested with the aid of a digital video tape of the brawl. According to one officer, 'Some of them actually signed in with their true names, so that helped us identify people.'"
Scoop! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Scoop! (Score:5, Funny)
Actually none of them sound like rocket scientists - but given that it happened in Texas I am shocked, awed, and dismayed at the complete lack of firearms in this disagreement. You would think that with upwards of 40 or so hooligans
Damn kids today
Re:Scoop! (Score:3, Informative)
With or without computers.... (Score:4, Insightful)
(This is why cops can catch them).
Why this fails... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Why this fails... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Why this fails... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Why this fails... (Score:2)
Nah, I think they become the CEO/CFO of Fortune 100 companies...
Re:Hollywood's 'Master Criminal' Fairytales. (Score:2)
Actually, many smart people who would be considered winners are criminals. I'm not advocating crime, but many clever scams and conspiracys are put together by rather smart people who have found an angle and choose to exploit it for personal gain. Most crime is never caught and many types of crime are not priortized. Keep it non violant and discrete. coupled with a great plan, and you're on your way to brilliant thievry. You have
Re:Why this fails... (Score:2, Interesting)
Actually I can explain this one logicly. And then disprove myself becouse I'm insain.
Dumb luck/Nobodys perfict:
There will always be at least some trace of a crime the trick is to prevent being identified not prevent the crime from being known.
If your stuff is missing you will know that much. If someone dies you'll know it.
The crime is recorded.
On that token New York has some very smart murders.
The real trick however is to insure it is never recognised as
Re:With or without computers.... (Score:3, Informative)
cool (Score:2, Funny)
yeah (Score:3, Funny)
Re:yeah (Score:2)
You know what they sing (Score:5, Funny)
You know what they sing -- Reprise (Score:3, Funny)
2 nite, 2 nite,
I'll flame ur ass 2 nite.
For us, the n00bz will drop where they are.
2 day
I'll never take a shower,
The FPS go slowly,
And still the sky is light...
Oh Doom, grow bright,
Chat turns 2 day into a fight!
- a.c.
Should have let them kill eachother (Score:5, Funny)
Especially with OSX! (Score:5, Funny)
(rimshot)
Re:Should have let them kill eachother (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Should have let them kill eachother (Score:2)
At least if they had fought it out, some would be removed.
The result of what actually happened is that they'll ALL be back very soon, and possibly a little more versed in how to slide through the legal system, and with a little less respect for it.
Re:Should have let them kill eachother (Score:2)
We can't just "throw the rest away for murder". They require food, housing, medical treatment, trial, lawyers, appeals, ad nauseum.
I became anti-capital punishment simply because an average life sentance without parole is 14 years of hopelessness ending in death or suicide, with a total cost of arou
Re:Should have let them kill eachother (Score:2)
I've got a better answer to that. How about people on Death Row should be put to death? Honestly, wtf is the point of putting someone on Death Row and then leaving them there
Re:Should have let them kill eachother (Score:3, Insightful)
If you can't see a difference between allowing potentially unsafe driving conditions and having the government killing innocent people, you're a moron.
Re:Should have let them kill eachother (Score:2)
How ironic... Even in your ill-wishing, you addressed the very reason for my original point.
No one cares if gang members go around killing one another. Sure, a few surprised family members end up on TV ("No, really, we thought Ricky just liked collecting guns and playing pool... I blame this on that tough crowd he hung out with!"), but for the most part, one less gang member means, well, one less gang member. The realists (and just about
Re:Should have let them kill eachother (Score:2)
I do care if people, even people you and maybe me, find undesirable, go around hurting and killing each other. 1st off, killing people is wrong. There are a few justifiable instences, but gang violence is not one of them. To allow it to go on, even if it kills of the undesirables you don't like, you are condoning the action.
Yes your apathy is worse. As long
so you're a compassionate cynic then? (Score:2)
The realists (and just about everyone but the most hardcore bleeding-hearts) will consider it good riddance
Based on your statements in this thread you don't seem to have any level of "bleeding heart", so I'd contest your authority to declare what such a person would consider. I also wonder about your definition of "realist". A realist, from my understanding would not have the amount of animosity inferrable from "good riddance". A realist would more likely be more tolerant to both the presence
newsflash (Score:2)
News at eleven!
-- RLJ
n3wzF1a5h (Score:4, Funny)
n3wz @ 11!!!
Chat logs anyone? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Chat logs anyone? (Score:4, Funny)
Chatty-chat-chat Re:chat-Re:Chat logs anyone? (Score:2)
Why do I think this all started with.... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Why do I think this all started with.... (Score:2)
"You &%*%^&$ wall hacker, get over here and I'll show you a REAL awp!"
Communications medium was used for communicating? (Score:5, Insightful)
This is not newsworthy. People traded insults and got into a fight. So it happened over the internet - so what?
Communications can be good or bad. The internet isn't going to prevent some punk from talking shit about some other punk.
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Re:Communications medium was used for communicatin (Score:2)
Re:Communications medium was used for communicatin (Score:2)
Yo (Score:2)
oh great (Score:4, Funny)
Comment removed (Score:5, Funny)
I'd love to read that transcript (Score:5, Funny)
FreshJackMan: u smoke dicks
FreshJackMan: an you mama a ho
Nigga4Life82: fuck yo mama ho
DJMonkeyAss: sup bitches
FreshJackMan: niga4life needs
DJMonkeyAss: indahouse
FreshJackMan: a cap in his ass
Tawneesha79: sup dopeman
FreshJackMan: GLOCK GLOCK LoL
Nigga4Life82: gona buts a cap in jack ass
Nigga4Life82: punk ass bitch anyway
(... six hours later
Nigga4Life82: make you move motherfuker
FreshJackMan: kick yo bitch ass bitch
FreshJackMan: fuck your mama bitch ass ho
(... two hours later... the fight begins)
That would be a great addition (Score:2)
Re:I'd love to read that transcript (Score:5, Funny)
Excuses, excuses. (Score:5, Funny)
I wonder how many of them will claim that it wasn't really them becasue of a worm or virus or someone else using their password.
Re:Excuses, excuses. (Score:2)
A gang member excuse is "the bitch set me up"
West Side Story (Score:4, Funny)
Re:West Side Story (Score:3, Funny)
"Arab, I'm gonna make nice with him. I'm only gonna challenge 'em."
"Cool, Daddy-o."
Slashdot effect street fight!!! (Score:4, Funny)
Rusty from Kuro5hin says this - "Hey Taco, j00 sux0r! CowboyNeal is a loser AOLer! Slashcode is worse than VB code! Hemos is a homo! If j00 l05ers think otherwise, show up at the corner of 2nd and Main at 3pm with 'yo posse, and we'll settle this with a fight between us K5-krew and the
I'm putting money on the K5er's. Slashdotters aren't exactly tough.
Re:Slashdot effect street fight!!! (Score:3, Funny)
I don't think either side would acquit themselves well. Though the cops may have trouble; they'd be laughing too hard to effectively make the arrests.
Re:Slashdot effect street fight!!! (Score:2)
Were they called the Sharks and the Jets? (Score:3, Funny)
Fights on IRC are fun to watch (Score:5, Funny)
Guy 2: Bring it on!
Guy 1: Fine! Where do you wanna meet?
Guy 2: I'll go to your place just to kick..your..ass. Where do you live?
Guy 1: 1328 Farnsworth street in Edina
Guy 2: Oh I'm so there. Wait, I'm in Rosevile
Guy 1: Okay, you can take I-494 westbound, then take hwy 100 northbound.
Guy 2: Can't do that, 494 near me is closed and there's no detour
Guy 1: Okay, how about County road B?
Re:Fights on IRC are fun to watch (Score:2)
Gang warfare, geek style (Score:5, Funny)
Pun (Score:5, Funny)
As the man said... (Score:5, Insightful)
Ted Nelson
Online gangs (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Online gangs (Score:4, Funny)
See, that's how real nerds 'throw down', cept I have hence moved on to UT2004. And don't think I won't use that Redeemer, cause I will - and that's when things get real ugly.
2 things (Score:2)
2. "I'm just wondering why the parents aren't monitoring what's going on back and forth on the Internet,", now I know the feeling of most slashdotters on this issue. Invasion of privacy, lack of trust, and for most of us our parents wouldn't have a clue what we were really doing...
Let me guess, you're in high school (Score:2)
I think you misjudge the average Slashdot reader's age.
Re:Let me guess, you're in high school (Score:2)
WRONG (Score:4, Insightful)
A bunch of kids argued in a chat room and then they fought.
This story is among the worst I've ever seen here.
Re:WRONG (Score:2)
Re:You left out (Score:2)
a flash mob is more like a group that just spontaneously forms out of nothing, with no forshadowed meaning or purpose.
if the flash-mob had a predetermined place and time, it would be a normal everyday-mob.
(p.s. just because it says so on flash-mob.net doesnt mean thats the accepted definition)
It's about time! (Score:2, Insightful)
WHY IS THIS INSIGHTFUL? (Score:3, Insightful)
Which is why I'm amazed that anyone would mod this as insightful. Advocating violence is insightful? While the world copes with the gruesome death of Mr. Berg we've got people advocating further violence and people thinking it's insightful? WTF?
Sounds more like a media stunt to me (Score:2)
Brain wrasslin ... (Score:2)
Oy. The humanity
Rich! (Score:5, Funny)
I'm waiting for the gang hand sign RFC.
Parents, not police, must take ultimate responsibility, said Lewis, a former police officer in Modesto, Calif. "I'm just wondering why the parents aren't monitoring what's going on back and forth on the Internet," he said.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch house:
A Roadside Oiler, filled with pride, watches his son typing away. "My son is a fucking genouis with that thing. He's always working at it. Trojans, DDoS, I got no idea what it is so it must be good."
Sonny gets out of his chair, picks up a baseball bat and heads for the door.
Oiler: Where you going, son?
Sonny: Uhhh, there's a game on tonight. I won't be late.
Oiler thinks: Night time baseball? Eh, OK, a little exercise will do him some good. I wish he'd get some sunshine.
And so it happens.
Re:Rich! (Score:5, Funny)
Extend left hand with a "peace sign" that falls over onto its face, as you simultaneously extend your right hand with the index finger pointing downward.
That's right....
Ctrl+Alt+Del, h0m33z.
Re:Rich! (Score:2)
Already done, way bigger (Score:4, Informative)
This time it was a major battle between Ajax and Feyenoord (football clubs from Amsterdam and Rotterdam respectively) supporters, to quote:
"In March 1997 an Ajax fan died after an organised fight between hundreds of Feyenoord and Ajax hooligans in a meadow near Beverwijk."
This lead to the death of one Ajax supporter Cario Picornie.
They organised this fight using cellulars.
Re:Already done, way bigger (Score:2)
I think this is sadly widespread amongst European hooligans these days.
Why charge them? (Score:3, Funny)
If these kids are flat-out dumb enough to want to fight each other for no apparent reason, then I say let them do it.
The world is over-populated enough as it is and a bit of chlorine in the gene pool wouldn't go astray.
Re:Why charge them? (Score:2)
Consenting people smacking the crap out of each other, either way.
Re:Why charge them? (Score:2)
Huh? (Score:5, Funny)
There's another kind?
True Name. (Score:2)
No shit, they should get on this stat.
I mean, just the other day BillClinton69 was all giving me terrorist threating messages in CS, and I swear I saw GW_BUSH_BIATCH snorting a line of blow back at the rear base in Battlefield Vietnam.
I mean, when people fucking tell you who they are, you should fucking arrest them...
duh..
-dameron
Back when my anon FTP was running and free (Score:4, Interesting)
So I changed it to a low bit quality version of "You Are My Sunshine."
It didn't take long for them to lose the hot link to my site. And I didn't have to say anything to them.
I can't help but think this mob problem could have been avoided if someone had just injected the forum with some happy fun kids' songs. Too much anger and stupidity, not enough funny.
Ben
l4m3rs! (Score:2)
Cheers,
IT
Darwin (Score:4, Funny)
Ah....Darwin works in mysterious ways sometimes....or perhaps some not so mysterious ways as found in this case.
They got it all wrong! (Score:2, Funny)
Come on, don't these gangs know good internet ettiquette?
Nothing new (Score:2, Interesting)
Usually, it's between football fans. They enter the opposite team's website/forum post some vulgar notes, arrange a meeting and fight.
I've never been into such a fight because you never know what's going to happen, bunch of forty crazed people fighting each other with no rules.
But it ain't as bad as it was in the 90's since they don't use weapons anymore. Howeve
Re:Nothing new (Score:2)
here's a 'mellow' account of what happened:
http://www.canoe.ca/NBAPlayoffs00/jun21_nba.htm l
" LOS ANGELES -- Conclusions arrived late Monday night after authorities locked reporters into the Staples Center for their own protection from overindulgent, so-called "fans:"
1) Post-game statistical breakdown: Helicopters covering the breaking -- as in glass -
A real reason to fight (Score:2, Funny)
Vi vs Emacs
Parental control? (Score:5, Insightful)
For goodness sake, these are kids aged 14-21. The policeman asked why the parents weren't keeping an eye on their internet usage: but what about keeping an eye on why your 14-year-old kid is going out at night with a baseball bat?!
So what were they fighting over? (Score:2)
Red Hat vs. Debian?
Linux vs. *BSD?
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Fight (Score:3, Informative)
And no, these kids were not "computer nerds". In fact, that part of Garland is considered a low-wealth, blue collar area; these are just punk kids who happen to use computers.
Re:God willing... (Score:3, Funny)
Like slash-dotting?
Re:God willing... (Score:2)
Re:God willing... (Score:3, Insightful)
No, that's not the same. Contraception is a different thing entirely. It prevents the spread of diseases and makes unwanted pregnancy almost zero for those who actually use contraceptive devices. It allows those who cannot maintain manogomy to engage in recreational sexual activity with few drawbacks. There are VD's you can get even while using a condom but to say that all those who use condo
Re:God willing... (Score:2)
Re:God willing... (Score:2)
Re:God willing... (Score:2)
There will always be a willing supply of recruits, because organized crime makes money. Okay, most of these kids were probably just morons
Re:God willing... (Score:2)
Re:What crime was committed? (Score:2)
Also, in organised sports, the health of the participants comes first, and there is normally a medical kit, if not a trained medical team, on the sidelines. When a player is injured, he can leave the field, etc to get immediate med
Re:What crime was committed? (Score:2)
Re:What crime was committed? (Score:2)
Re:On the bright side... (Score:2)
maybe some FPS multiplayer arena - that would save hospital beds AND fit their MO.