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AOL to Replace AIM with Triton

Zonk posted more than 9 years ago | from the millions-of-chatty-teens-grow-silent dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "BetaNews is reporting that AOL has begun beta testing a replacement for its AOL Instant Messenger (AIM) software. Triton has an entirely new user interface that adds highly anticipated features including tabbed messaging and logging. The client will also be open to third party plug-ins." From the article: "It is no coincidence that AOL is fielding so many betas concurrently. AOL Browser, an Internet Explorer based Web browser; AOL Media Player, a standalone audio and video player; AOL search technologies and AOL's synchronization utilities are all part of what was once a unified communications client called Fanfare."

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240 comments

Pretty Interesting (3, Insightful)

endtwist (862499) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351230)

Pretty interesting stuff. Hopefully it wont suck like the latest AIM versions...

Re:Pretty Interesting (3, Funny)

Rei (128717) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351374)

I'm looking forward to AIM being replaced with Triton. I feel that the distant reaches of our solar system are a good place to send anyone who wants to use AIM.

An aol user was qouted as saying, (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12351233)

"OMG WTF?!?!?"

Re:An aol user was qouted as saying, (0)

ONOIML8 (23262) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351503)



A/S/L?

Re:An aol user was qouted as saying, (1)

Saeger (456549) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351607)

No, I got Cable, but I hear ADSL r0x0rs too.

Re:An aol user was qouted as saying, (1)

Filmwatcher888 (595369) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351664)

LOL!!!!11

FUCK YOU! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12351237)

n/t

Re:FUCK YOU! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12351256)

Alas, you sharp-clawed peacock!

Perhaps you've had too much of the honey-wine, eh?

Oh, AOL sucks.

Deja Vu (5, Informative)

sqlrob (173498) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351241)

Sounds familiar [sourceforge.net]

Re:Deja Vu (2, Insightful)

me at werk (836328) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351315)

I've seen screens before it came out of alpha, and it's also directly ripping off iChat's messaging window. You don't know what I'm talking about? Thank goodness for google images and bloggers [ohio-state.edu] with their screenshots [chumpco.com] .

Re:Deja Vu (2, Insightful)

arose (644256) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351609)

Ugly, worse than ugly.

Re:Deja Vu (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351367)

...except without the ability to connect to other IM networks. Really, why should I use an IM client that doesn't allow me to connect to people on other networks, and forces ads down my throat?

Re:Deja Vu (1)

manthrax3 (837791) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351658)

The native AIM client is for noobs. You know, the silent majority out there who make AIM affordable for AOL. (And who also make the rest of us use AIM in order to comply)

Sounds exactly like gaim (1, Redundant)

czion3 (612261) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351242)

errr....Gaim [sourceforge.net] anyone?

Until it can connect with multiple IM services... (2, Insightful)

billyj4 (143709) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351245)

I'll stick with trillian...

Trillian is awesome. (1)

RyoShin (610051) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351505)

You and me, both.

If I just used AIM, then Triton might interest me.

However, some of my friends insist on having MSN names (I guess they like putting an entire fucking paragraph in for their handle,) so I'd just rather have one catch-all program, which Trillian does quite fine since I upgraded to v3. I'm dissapointed that it took so long for me to be able to see the fonts that other users had set, though. Before, it just always showed my font for everyone, regardless of their settings.

Now, if only they'd take away that stupid XP-like interface and give me the regular preference window I was so used to...

However, on the subject of cross-IM, can't ICQ and AOL accounts interface now?

Re:Until it can connect with multiple IM services. (2, Insightful)

EtherAlchemist (789180) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351546)


I totally get your point- being able to talk with people using different clients is from one source is handy. But I don't think Trillian is the killer app people make it out to be. I've used it, and yeah it's OK, but Trillian is basically just an IM client aggregator- it doesn't provide any messaging capabilities itself, I don't find any of its own features that useful, you still have to have an account with each service you want to use, and until recently that was kind of a pain in the ass (cue flaming arrows).

It's not like Trillian does anything super fantastic, if you look at the new features Trillian has like the bio thing, it's just AIM profiles. There's no tabbed messaging, as far as I know Trillian doesn't support VOIP (in TFA they say Triton will), and there's no plugin support (again TFA says that will be in there).

I think the plugins is going to be where it's at- look how much they've helped the popularity of Mozilla and Firefox. When you have an app and think "damn, I wish it did [THAT]" and then you can either go find it or write your own, that's fucking sweet. For me, waiting for the next release and wondering if it's in there sucks.

Re:Until it can connect with multiple IM services. (1)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351643)

For me, waiting for the next release and wondering if it's in there sucks.

Welcome to the world of closed-source crippleware.

Now I wish there was a software like Trillian but open source. Oh, and I tried GAIM, but the bugs and lack of features made me go back to trilly'.

Sucks, doesn't it?

Cool. (3, Interesting)

rekenner (849871) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351246)

Stuff that programs like Trillian (Windows), GAIM (windows, Linux), Fire (osx), and Dead AIM (Windows, add on) have had for years.

And then VoIP? Skype...

Nothing new to see here, move along...

Interesting features... (5, Insightful)

angst7 (62954) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351247)

adds highly anticipated features including tabbed messaging and logging

I've been using this for quite a while, though. It's called Gaim [sourceforge.net] .

Re:Interesting features... (1)

mattmentecky (799199) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351302)

Could you ever use AIM's direct connect function with GAIM? I never could. Even send/receive file was a little spotty.

Re:Interesting features... (1)

WhatAmIDoingHere (742870) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351339)

Trillian [trillian.cc] works.

Re:Interesting features... (1)

dotgod (567913) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351408)

If anyone hasn't tried Trillian for a couple years, I'd definitely reccommend trying it out again. It used to be crap, but it's quite nice now.

Re:Interesting features... (1)

Tezkah (771144) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351563)

They implemented both audio AND video capabilities, when gaim has just started whispering about possibly including it. It's only available in the Pro Version, but you get what you pay for.

Windows only, other than that the only complaint I have is that it uses its own skin interface. I'd much rather have a native version, but you can usually find really nice skins to match Windows.

Re:Interesting features... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12351308)

And wow is it fucking ugly. I'll take AOL's AIM client any day over the Win32 GAIM client. Yeah, the ads are gone with a squid proxy so the "ad free" is irrelevant.

Re:Interesting features... (1, Interesting)

John Seminal (698722) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351380)

adds highly anticipated features including tabbed messaging and logging

I've been using this for quite a while, though. It's called Gaim [sourceforge.net].

Can Open Source software be copywrited or have patents? It seems like AOL is stealing a feature of an Open Source product. With all the big companies suing smaller ones for the same thing, who is going to protect the open source software?

Or does open source not care who uses what, that open source just wants the best possible product on the market?

It seems like a double standard.

Re:Interesting features... (1)

FictionPimp (712802) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351566)

GPL software is copywrited. If you dont agree to the license you are breaking the author's copywrite.

Re:Interesting features... (1)

rbochan (827946) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351484)

And licq [licq.org] and ickle [sourceforge.net] and Trillian [ceruleanstudios.com] and...

Re:Interesting features... (1)

Penguin Programmer (241752) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351613)

Yes, it would seem that what they've essentially done is implement features that free software that does the same thing implemented - hm - five or ten years ago.

Funny how that works.

Wow? (1)

PunkOfLinux (870955) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351252)

So, AOL is trying to decrappify themselves in the eyes of the public? >.>

Re:Wow? (1)

gregfortune (313889) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351316)

Dunno about that.. I though WoW was blizzard's thing ;)

early beta (5, Informative)

frieked (187664) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351254)

It is worth noting that this is still an early beta.
I installed it this morning and had frequent crashes so I switched back to the regular 5.9 version.

Here's a select quote from the betanews forums:
"Why is it that so many small or independent developers give us so much quality software, often without reward, and huge companies like AOL can only spit out this bloated garbage?"

Re:early beta (1)

Neil Blender (555885) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351274)

"Why is it that so many small or independent developers give us so much quality software, often without reward, and huge companies like AOL can only spit out this bloated garbage?"

PHBs.

Re:early beta (1)

MCron (737313) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351350)

This beta is running at about 100MB usage of RAM. Also, viewing of profiles has not been implemented yet, along with several other 5.x features.
So, yes, still very early

Re:early beta (3, Insightful)

kirun (658684) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351581)

This beta is running at about 100MB usage of RAM.

Why do I get the feeling the ICQ developers had a hand in this?

Re:early beta (4, Interesting)

barzok (26681) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351446)

Because the small guy actually cares about the product, has passion around it, enjoys the work, and wants to put out something that makes him look good. He's also far more likely to "dogfood" the application, so it has to work for him before anyone else.

Huge companies like AOL (this is a generalization!) only care about the bottom line, and the passion & interest for the product isn't nearly as strong at the level of the developers. They aren't building something they believe in, they're building what they're paid to build. Add in "too many chiefs, not enough indians" (basically, every mid-level manager and marketdroid has to get their word in and impose their will) and the end result is bloated garbage.

Re:early beta (1)

dr.badass (25287) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351600)

"Why is it that so many small or independent developers give us so much quality software, often without reward, and huge companies like AOL can only spit out this bloated garbage?"

Because small developers (even freeware/open source) have to compete for mindshare to survive. An established giant like AOL or Microsoft with a captive audience does not. They stagnate, and begin to focus on extracting more money from said captive audience than gaining a larger, more loyal, or happier audience.

The little guy's product has to be better to be successful; the big guy's product just has to be branded.

The smartest companies (Apple, Google, et al.) learn how to do both.

One Word (0, Redundant)

Soljin (854395) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351259)

Trillian

Damn you Trillion (1)

Mintee (465975) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351260)

If trillion would get it's crap together then there would be no need in anymore windows IM clients...

How much do you want to bet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12351261)

...that this 'new version' will include 'features' that make it impossible/illegal (DMCA comes to mind) for third-parties to build compatible clients? Not to mention more adware/spyware-like functionality.

Re:How much do you want to bet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12351281)

60 Quatloos on the newcomer!

Re:How much do you want to bet... (1)

vasqzr (619165) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351375)


As long as I can continue to use an older version, I'll be happy.

gAim and DeadAim, anyone? (3, Interesting)

Jeremy.DeGroot (878927) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351283)

A lot of those features touted in the headline are features that I've been using for years with alternative clients. Oh, but what's this? Support for VOIP? Address books? Plug-in architechture? Now it's sounding more interesting. I may have to start using the AIM client again.

Re:gAim and DeadAim, anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12351450)

Gaim has plug-ins [sourceforge.net]

Re:gAim and DeadAim, anyone? (1)

double-oh three (688874) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351493)

By the way, Gaim is correctly written either gaim or Gaim, not GAIM, gAIM, gAim, et all.

Re:gAim and DeadAim, anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12351556)

also, it's 'et al.', not 'et all.'

Re:gAim and DeadAim, anyone? (1, Insightful)

drooling-dog (189103) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351656)

Support for VOIP?

So we've come full-circle, back to the equivalent of just calling someone on a telephone? Revolutionary!

Re:gAim and DeadAim, anyone? (1)

kidgenius (704962) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351700)

Address books? Plug-in architechture?

Gaim has has plugin architecture for years now. And, if you are using Evolution in Linux, you get address book functionality as well.

Preferences we can't understand (3, Interesting)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351286)

Answering another user grievance, AOL will pair down the number of preference options in AIM, taking what it refers to as a "smarter approach." A spokesperson said that the current AIM client was heavy with preferences because, "We couldn't decide one way or another."
But they still tacked on tons of ads and annoying pop-up windows, the dumb approach. Hopefully the new version will be ad-free and user friendly. Is this possible?

Re:Preferences we can't understand (2, Informative)

MCron (737313) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351377)

As far as I can tell, they've taken away pop-up windows (AIM Today screen), and even put a handle on SPIM, with the IM Catcher.

There isn't even a stock ticker on there anymore.
So, where are you getting "they still tacked on tons of ads and annoying pop-up windows, the dumb approach."?

Re:Preferences we can't understand (1)

khellendros1984 (792761) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351579)

Taking the "smarter approach" by dumbing down the interface.... You know, that's why diversity is good. I LIKE MY OPTIONS!! If something's missing from GAIM, I can get a plugin somewhere that adds the capabilities. So, will there be an AIM plugin to restore lost preferences? Get rid of ads? Somehow, I think not.

Re:Preferences we can't understand (1)

jtriska (520530) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351586)

If there's one thing I didn't complain about the original AIM client, it was the preferences. Maybe they could of been grouped and simplified a bit better, but, I don't see how just obliterating user choice and forcing them to use defaults is a feature.

New *client* (4, Informative)

gregfortune (313889) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351287)

Just as a clarification, this is *not* a new protocol. This is a new client that integrates the AIM protocol and functionality with other services.

Re:New *client* (3, Informative)

MCron (737313) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351468)

To expand on that, AOL has two protocols, OSCAR (which is used by the AIM client and Triton as well as gAIM and Trillian) and TOC (which was released in 1997 for third-party developers).

While TOC has been fairly crippled, OSCAR is still expanding (server storage of aliases, for example) and shows no sign of needing replacement.

TRITON!!! (4, Funny)

Jicksta (760596) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351291)

Trion!!!

Now with bigger, more explosive ads!

'highly anticipated'? (2, Interesting)

matt me (850665) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351296)

features such as logging and tabbed conversations. cutting edge innovations? ha! i think not. maybe they should call it agaim or something. now they're taking stuff back.

looking at http://images.betanews.com/betanews/articles/11144 80209/triton.png screenshot they are quite clearly trying to replicate MSN 6 to 'please' users. same ugly style. expect similar bloat.

Re:'highly anticipated'? (1)

0racle (667029) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351324)

I hate all that crap on the side. It makes it impossible to have a small chat window as you work.

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Until I can kill the ads... (1)

doormat (63648) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351305)

I'm going to stick with trillian.

Re:Until I can kill the ads... (2, Informative)

MCron (737313) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351398)

Go ahead and kill the ads [krunchsoftware.com] . Now, will you be moving?

hmmm (1)

John Seminal (698722) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351307)

The client will also be open to third party plug-ins

How long til they pull close the door on thrid party im's? To make them unable to use the network? Could it be they just want to make the switch with the least amount of bitching?

Re:hmmm (1)

argent (18001) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351697)

How long until they close the door on third party IMs?

That was my first thought, indeed.

Successful Business Plan? (5, Funny)

bigtallmofo (695287) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351314)

I think now I'll write a P2P application that runs on top of Triton called Tritonster. When AOL inevitably sues me for trademark infringement I'll claim that my daughter's nickname has been Tritonee for some time.

Sounds like a winning business plan [answers.com] to me!

Re:Successful Business Plan? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12351421)

Why not just link to the original [wikipedia.org] ?

i hope they have security in mind (0, Offtopic)

Jaspers (876338) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351318)

The client will also be open to third party plug-ins.


Well i do hope they have some security in mind with those plugins! In the local news a few nights ago it was said that someone turned a webcam on to a 16 year old girl on msn messenger. After he took some ensaulting pictures of her, he (was caught after all) was blackmaling the girl!

Re:i hope they have security in mind (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12351391)

I beg your pardon?

ensaulting ???

Re:i hope they have security in mind (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12351504)

ensaulting ???

I beg your pardon?

I think he meant exalting

Wrong based (1)

Svippy (876087) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351322)

Basing a Web Browser on IE would be one of the stupidest thing to do if you don't want to kill the non-standard HTML code floating the web.

But really, I've never trusted AOL, and most of their members are newbies, and in some IRC channels, *.aol.com is banned.

But hey, they have to make a living of something.

Opening Up? (3, Informative)

MCron (737313) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351325)

They say they will be opening up to third party developers.
I checked the acccore.dll file, and seems to have some pretty extensive hooks. All the same, this is entirely client-side.

Recently, they have been clamping down more and more on third-party developers of services on the network. For example, a free offline messaging service, DoorManBot [doorman.info] was forced offline for a few days recently. Hopefully, this new spirit of being open to developers will carry through.

DeadAIM (1)

NeoSkandranon (515696) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351329)

sounds like alot of features have been taken from the functionality added by the DeadAIM plugin

So many complaints (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12351330)

Yet you all seem to fail to realise the purpose of this. While all those 3rd party clients are great and all. Who's to say AOL can't change the rules and block all 3rd party applications and then go DMCA on the creators and all this free software would cease to exist. This may be the direction AOL plans to take the AIM protocol. It might be totally wrong. But at least it's something to think about before you blatantly bash them for providing something for free all these years.

Last time I checked the AIM protocol still runs on servers controlled by AOL.

Not very impressive (4, Interesting)

Kimos (859729) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351343)

I live in Canada so have never used AIM. I am, however, an avid user of Trillian [ceruleanstudios.com] and GAIM [sourceforge.net] over ICQ and MSN. Now I'm not sure if it's just me, but offering tabbed chatting and logging features doesn't seem that impressive to me. Honestly, I wouldn't use a client that didn't log conversations and offer some type of window control.

I didn't RTFM, but I hope that those aren't the best features that Triton has to offer...

Re:Not very impressive (3, Interesting)

HAKdragon (193605) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351435)

What does living in Canada have to do with using AIM?

Re:Not very impressive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12351456)

What does living in Canada have to do with using AIM?

It's too complicated.

Re:Not very impressive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12351630)

Just because it's so cold up here, doesn't mean we're slow, eh?

Re:Not very impressive (3, Informative)

rainman_bc (735332) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351548)

What does living in Canada have to do with using AIM?

While quite popular in America, I know of no one on AIM in Canada. In my circles MSN seems most popular, with ICQ second and YIM third.

Re:Not very impressive (3, Informative)

Kimos (859729) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351583)

Nobody here uses AOL. I know it's available because I've gotten the CDs in the mail, but I've never had a single AOL email address in my address book. The only exception is when I do eBay business with the US, then it seems every third person is using AOL.

Re:Not very impressive (0, Offtopic)

Mantorp (142371) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351646)

I live in the US but I've tried Canadian Bacon several times.

Re:Not very impressive (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12351452)

Jesus Christ. Shut your fucking mouth, asshole.

Re:Not very impressive (1)

Mr.Progressive (812475) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351588)

No, it's also have new ADS!!

AIM? (0)

John Seminal (698722) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351353)

Isn't AIM something only people with AOL use? I have never had it on any computer.

Maybe it is too difficult to download a different IM when you use dial up?

How about AOL is forced to have on it's instal CD a second IM program?

I had a friend who does have AOL and they had Real Player installed as part of the AOL instal. You could not opt-out. It seems to me that AOL is becomming the next M$. Luckily, most people have broadband so AOL will die.

Re:AIM? (4, Funny)

gregfortune (313889) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351397)

"Isn't AIM something only people with AOL use?"

Yeah, not very many of those people around.. </sarcasm>

Re:AIM? (1)

MCron (737313) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351430)

AIM is actually the IM platform with the most users, so no, not only AOL.

As for size, the normal version is only a few MB.
However, if you really are concerned about size, take a look at TerraIM [sourceforge.net] , which stands at about 600KB.

Re:AIM? (1)

Stick_Fig (740331) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351447)

Um, download AIM, buddy, because you have no clue what the hell you're talking about. It's the most popular program on the internet next to IE, and the network's free to use and COMPLETELY unrelated to AOL.

Jesus, can I borrow the cave you've been hiding in? It's been in heavy use for almost a decade now.

Re:AIM? (1)

Merithiel (805986) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351571)

Luckily, most people have broadband so AOL will die.


Unfortunately, some people have AOL with Broadband. And it is surprisingly cheap altogether if you do it through them.

For the average user who does not need a very fast connection and frequently uses AOL, this is a pretty good solution. Just like the AOL computer advertised in the tigerdirect catalog I got for some odd reason.

Re:AIM? (1)

Ender_Stonebender (60900) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351653)

Isn't it just that you're an idiot? (People who disagree with me should look at this guy's prior posts.) AIM is just about absolutely freaking everywhere these days. Official clients exist for PC, Mac, and a supposedly run-anywhere Java applet; there's a number of cell phone and PDA versions; and there's even SMS gateways from most major US cellular carriers. So no, you don't need to have AOL on your PC to use AIM.

It's even a relatively small download! 10MB or so, I think. Kind of a pain in the butt on dial-up, but not too unreasonable.

I don't think that you could tell the AOL installer to not install RealPlayer, but once it was installed you could uninstall it. I used to do that when I worked for AOL Tech Support. ...and AOL is moving into the broadband arena through partnerships with cable providers, so it's unlikely to die. The thing that seems really strange to me is: There are people on AOL who actually *like* it! How dumb do you have to be to actually like AOL?

Oh, and can someone point us to some statistics on overall Internet penetration and broadband penetration that are relatively recent? (A quick Google search turned up something from March 2004, I'd like to see something more recent.)

--Ender

it will suck (1)

nashy-nunu (860418) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351378)

I don't like AIM. None of the features are worth anything. The lastest versions came with spyware "wildTanget" I will assume the same for this. I will never use it

Triton.. good. (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12351406)

I see everyone touting GAIM and Trillian like they are even remotely comparable to AIM from AOL. This is pretty funny. I agree the latest version seem a little bloated and have some annoying options though. However, it's much more stable, feature friendly, and flat out works the way it should. All of these open source version are terrible buggy or missing features. They did, however, capitalize on the features users really wanted and that's great. There have been addons for AIM that provide this support, but nothing from AOL sadly enough.

It's funny that logging isn't included since chat logging has been available on the AOL client for over 10 years. In any case -- I welcome Triton and look forward to a decent product that finally provides all of these features.

Forget features, I want them to keep giving me CDs (5, Funny)

pg110404 (836120) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351411)

With the advances in CD/DVD burning and buffer underrun protection, I've not made any coasters in a really long time.

It's like c'mon, what else can I put my cup/glass on? I don't even get the Bell sympatico CDs anymore either.

Cheap bastards. Don't they know their CDs are actually worth something to me?

awesome! (5, Funny)

ohzero (525786) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351417)

it'll be like....trillian 0.9B!!

I can't wait (1)

514CK3R (875865) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351437)

Looks like the next peice of malware to infect the web. Next thing you know they'll be following with slogan theft, and perhaps even claim that it "Just Works" like Windows longhorn

Triton's Mozilla Past (5, Interesting)

jhewitt (120161) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351459)

Triton was completely re-written from scratch using a new GUI toolkit called "Boxely", which was derived from Mozilla's XUL. As a result, this new AIM is extremely extensible, and hackable.

Poke around in C:\Program Files\Common Files\AOL\AIMBeta\services and you'll find a bunch of javascript and xml files (ending in .box). These contain the code that drives the entire product. You can easily modify and extend AIM, just as you can write extensions for Firefox with XUL. This is no accident, AOL wants developers to build on AIM as a platform.

When I worked at AOL, I developed Boxely as a fun side project. I left the company a year ago, but they kept my project alive and now seem to be building real software with it. I probably should have open sourced it from the beginning.

On my blog I've written more about Boxely and how it compares to XUL: http://www.joehewitt.com/

Re:Triton's Mozilla Past (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12351685)

You might want to double-check with any AOL contacts... pretty sure Boxley was gutted due to Python guts.

Minimum System Requirements? (4, Interesting)

jtriska (520530) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351469)

Just what does this client do that it needs more than a 600mhz computer?

I got the installer, which was annoying as it's not even an installer at all but an install-getter, and it immediately prompted me with the message "Your computer does not meet the minimum system requirements to download and install AIM® Beta."

Re:Minimum System Requirements? (2, Informative)

jtriska (520530) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351558)

Nevermind, heh, XP only. Nothing to see here.

Security? (3, Insightful)

tuxlove (316502) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351513)

The client will also be open to third party plug-ins.

Yay! More ways for spyware and viruses to take control of your computer! And propagate themselves to your friends' computers too. This is a disaster waiting to happen.

This may actually turn out to be useful. (3, Interesting)

AdityaG (842691) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351559)

I know AOL doesn't have a record of doing smart things, but if they actually make the client non-shitty, it can only help. People won't generally switch to Gaim and Trillian, because they don't know the company. People want a name brand. We see this with Linux vs. Windows and such.

So if they actually make a better client, maybe one that instantly kills noob fuxx0rs, the world will be a better place.

The current interface wasn't bad (1)

miyako (632510) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351593)

I'm not sure why they decided that they need such a huge change from what they already had, I always thought that (exessive ads from in the buddy list aside) AIM had a pretty decent UI. In fact, the only thing that ever really annoyed me about AIM was it allowing people to set the background color on their text, because people seem to invariably love sending lime green text on a hot pink background, or something else equally blinding. But looking at the screenshots of this new client, it seems bulky and way to flashy. Generally when I get an IM, I just want a small text window that will pop-up that I can read and reply to quickly. Along these lines, I think tabbed IMs are a bad idea (turned them off in Gaim), because tabbed IMs only really seem to work if your concentrating only on IMing people, instead of (what I do, and what I would suspect most other people do) simply leaving the IM services on in the background while you do other stuff.
Of course, as someone else mentioned, until they add support for multiple protocols, and a linux port, I'll be sticking with Gaim, though I certainly hope Gaim doesn't try to copy this new look.

no coincidence? (3, Funny)

sootman (158191) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351695)

"It is no coincidence that AOL is fielding so many betas concurrently."

What, did they get bought by Google?

Adium (2, Insightful)

argent (18001) | more than 9 years ago | (#12351713)

Sounds like they were paying attention to Adium, which is webkit rather than gecko based but otherwise sounds similar.

Well, except that Adium works with just about every IM service out there.
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