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Star Wars 3D And TV

Zonk posted more than 9 years ago | from the never-going-to-be-rid-of-that-man dept.

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Master_of_Tumbleweeds writes "Rick McCallum, co-producer of the Star Wars prequel trilogy, appeared at a press conference in Japan earlier today. He spoke about the future of Star Wars, specifically about the 3D updates of all six films and the upcoming TV series. McCallum said that the 3D films would be released within two to three years, and that the TV shows would take place during the 20 year time period between Episode III and IV. He also mentioned that one of the shows would follow the adventures of a young Luke Skywalker, and reveal how certain characters ended up together. The show starts production next year."

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Or to make a long story short (2, Funny)

77Punker (673758) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853070)

He promised to make Star Wars get even worse than he managed to do the last three times. How will he do this?

He'll do it weekly with a TV series!

Re:Or to make a long story short (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853092)

On the other hand, if Lucas makes it show in three dimensions, maybe it will give the characters some depth.

Or maybe not.

Re:Or to make a long story short (1)

FidelCatsro (861135) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853124)

1d +3d = 4d

Re:Or to make a long story short (2, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853173)

Should be 5D: width, height, depth, time and money. George is expecting everyone to depart with the last two -- again, again and again.

Re:Or to make a long story short (1)

lahuard (881789) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853235)

If Lucas is making the characters, they won't have any depth. He is a horrid director and only real contribution to the series is the stories themselves and the visuals.

Re:Or to make a long story short (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853250)

That was his point. We know you don't like it, because you visit Slashdot. :-)

It would be so much Lucas' way of thinking: let the technology deliver the quality. ;-)

Re:Or to make a long story short (1)

eclectro (227083) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853322)

maybe it will give the characters some depth

Yes they will be deep. Deep in the Ewok forest, that is.

Beginning of the End of Star Wars (3, Insightful)

reporter (666905) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853273)

"Stars Wars" (SW) is quickly morphing into the sort of downward spiral that marked the end of "Star Trek" (ST). ST saturated the airwaves, and eventually the plots became so shallow that they lost most of their audience. One problem is that plots begin to repeat themselves.

Another problem is inconsistency.

The first sign of trouble is inconsistency in the storylines. An example is the fact that, in the original SW trilogy, the Force is available to anyone willing to commit herself to the ideals of the Jedi. Obi-wan Kenobi offers to teach Han Solo how to master the Force, but the swashbuckler declines, preferring a good pistol. Then, in the new trilogy, the Force is available only to those with the blood stocked with midichlorians.

By the way, epics come along only once in a great while. Trying to generate new and wonderful ideas each week for a TV series is extremely difficult; hence most shows (e.g. ST) end before about 7 seasons. Such a conclusion leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth, and once devoted fans permanently ignore the franchise.

SW will most assuredly meet such a fate -- unless George Lucas deflates his ego and terminates the television series before they even begin.

Re:Beginning of the End of Star Wars (1)

77Punker (673758) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853295)

Very well stated. I can only hope they don't fuck up as bad with the upcoming Indiana Jones movie. If they make the ass-kickingest hero ever look bad, cinema itself will finally be robbed of its last bit of glory.

Re:Beginning of the End of Star Wars (1)

Meagermanx (768421) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853398)

"Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - For Real This Time"

Re:Beginning of the End of Star Wars (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853326)

"Obi-wan Kenobi offers to teach Han Solo how to master the Force, but the swashbuckler declines, preferring a good pistol. "

WTF? This is what makes you bashers so funny, you can't even remember the original movies right...

Re:Beginning of the End of Star Wars (4, Insightful)

xoboots (683791) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853508)

I find your lack of faith -- disturbing.

As for the midichlorians, perhaps there is more to it than your apparently limited insight allow for. First of all, it is well known in the SW universe that the force permeates every living thing (with one notable exception, but they aren't discovered until after ROTJ so we will ignore them here). If midichlorians act as the mediation for that interaction than the implication is that everyone has at least SOME midichlorian in them (whatever it is) but that some folks have more than others. Just as some people are naturally more gifted athletes or mathematicians or more suited to contemplative, spiritual paths so too are some beings more likely to be adept at bearing the Force. The importance of "introducing" midichlorians is that it allowed Lucas to tell us that Anakin was off the chart when it came to natural Force adeptness. So your argument is rather unsophisticated.

Furthermore, you have to account for the fact that just because a "sage" says something doesn't mean that it is the whole truth or even true at all. It is simply their belief or understanding. Note how both Yoda and Obi-Wan (whom we would assume should know better) are both bent on getting Luke to destroy Darth. Obi-Wan never fails in this persuit even though Padame's dying words to him were insistant that there was still good in Anakin. It takes young Luke (who is apparently the "real" chosen one and thus has great insight) to realize that one of the characteristics of the Force is that redemption is possible for all -- even Anakin. This is the real moral of Star Wars and it is somewhat hidden behind everything else that goes on so it is not surprising that you don't see it (again, neither did Yoda nor Obi-Wan). If you allow yourself to sucked in to the "realness" of the scenes that Lucas presents you miss things like that and it suggests that you are only doing a surface read. Yes its a big budget action movie but if you take a moment to NOT be wowed by what is happening, there is stuff there that acts at a deeper level.

Asides from all that -- who the fuck cares if you are unhappy about these films or the direction that Lucas is taking the franchise? Just because you don't get it doesn't mean that you get to trash it. A lot of people DO enjoy SW and will continue to do so long into the future. As your ability to deconstruct appears somewhat lacking (don't worry, not everyone has great reserves of that talent) it is likely that your judgements on the matter will leave much to be desired. You talk about Lucas' ego and yet it is you who are suffering from delusions. I think Lucas has earned the right to set the direction for SW. You: not so much.

please (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853071)

be good, please be good, please be good.

That would be a nice change.

Re:please (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853140)

Why wouldn't it be good?

I mean, after all, the best movie to come out this summer is by far and large The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl in 3-D. I hope Star Wars lives up to the same high standards of cinematography and innovation.

3-D Star Wars Prequels? I Can't Wait! (5, Funny)

TooMuchEspressoGuy (763203) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853076)

Finally, my chance to actually realistically attempt to strangle Jar Jar Binks!

Re:3-D Star Wars Prequels? I Can't Wait! (1)

spellraiser (764337) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853099)

Aha, you mean something like this [djcoffman.com] , I presume.

Re:3-D Star Wars Prequels? I Can't Wait! (1)

Meagermanx (768421) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853415)

"Oh Jar Jar. Nobody loves you but me."

Re:3-D Star Wars Prequels? I Can't Wait! (1)

Milner99 (868225) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853523)

lol, don't just stop at strangling!

Why? (5, Insightful)

bcmm (768152) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853080)

Is there a good reason to keep the franchise going, other than money?

Millions will watch it; fans will get more annoyed and alienated; non-fans will find it increasingly hard to believe the fans' claims that it used to be good and it will all be hugely profitable. Nothing new.

Re:Why? (5, Insightful)

jfengel (409917) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853141)

George Lucas is apprently putting what he wants to see on film. He's been monkeying with his old films to make them look more like what he wanted (or at least, what he wants now).

So if you're looking for an artistic rather than fiscal reason, that's it: George Lucas gets to make the movies he wants to make. He's writing and directing them, despite pleas from the fans to let somebody else do it. Supposedly that's what a real artist does: make the art his way, and critics, fans, and profits be damned.

He happens to get the profits anyway. But if you're asking him to stop making movies his way and make them the way you want to see them, he'll tell you what any artist would tell you: go make your own movie.

Re: Why? (2, Insightful)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853344)


> So if you're looking for an artistic rather than fiscal reason, that's it: George Lucas gets to make the movies he wants to make. He's writing and directing them, despite pleas from the fans to let somebody else do it. Supposedly that's what a real artist does: make the art his way, and critics, fans, and profits be damned.

And Lucas just happens to think action figures are an art form.

Re:Why? (0)

teksno (838560) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853357)

So if you're looking for an artistic rather than fiscal reason, that's it: George Lucas gets to make the movies he wants to make. He's writing and directing them, despite pleas from the fans to let somebody else do it. Supposedly that's what a real artist does: make the art his way, and critics, fans, and profits be damned.

unfortunally with such a die hard fan base, people will keep watching his stuff...even though he is pretty much a hack now...

If Lucas would not sue, then we'd make a movie. (1)

reporter (666905) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853401)

But if you're asking him to stop making movies his way and make them the way you want to see them, he'll tell you what any artist would tell you: go make your own movie.

Whenever SlashDot posts a "Star Wars" (SW) topic in this forum, participants soon push the number of submitted articles to about 1000. There are many fans who are committed to the original myth in original SW trilogy, not the new myth in the new trilogy.

I would also bet that, among those devoted fans, are some rich folks who have the financial means to write and film a much better prequel than what Lucas botched (except possibly for SW III). If Lucas would just agree to license his characters from the original trilogy so that others could develop an alternative prequel, then I am sure that others would make their "own [damn] movie".

The introduction of midichlorians bothers me to no end. That wonderful message that the force is available to anyone committed to the nobel ideals (compassion, honesty, etc.) of the Jedi disappeared into a flushed toilet when Lucas introduced "midichlorians". The Jedi knights went from a nobel, egalitarian group to a snobbish group whose members are determined by blood.

Re:If Lucas would not sue, then we'd make a movie. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853499)

I would also bet that, among those devoted fans, are some rich folks who have the financial means to write and film a much better prequel than what Lucas botched (except possibly for SW III). If Lucas would just agree to license his characters from the original trilogy so that others could develop an alternative prequel, then I am sure that others would make their "own [damn] movie".

I hate Lucas as much as the next guy but it should be noted that Lucas is very supportive of fan films. In fact, I think he actually acts as a judge for fan film contests sometimes.

Re:Why? (1)

syberanarchy (683968) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853452)

I think it's pretty obvious Lucas stopped being an artist a long time ago. Now he's just like Todd McFarlane (or should I say, McFarlane is just like him)... a really good businessman with no creative soul.

But he is a BAD artist (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853462)

Art, Sma-art.
Lucas may be an artist, but his is (now a days) a bad, incompetent artist.

Just being an artist doesn't mean you are someone to be admired. You actually need to be a good artist.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853621)

"He's been monkeying with his old films to make them look more like what he wanted (or at least, what he wants now)."

No... he's "moneying" with his old films. Its a little different, just more profitable.

Re:Why? (2, Interesting)

jangobongo (812593) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853186)

Is there a good reason to keep the franchise going, other than money?

Millions will watch it...


You just answered your own question - millions will watch it. They'll watch it at least as long as it takes to find out if it's good or horrible.

It could be good. The 'Clone Wars' cartoons seem to be well liked, though it may not have reached a very large audience.

If they get it right, it could be as successful as 'Smallville' or some of the 'Star Trek' series. I thought 'The Young Indiana Jones' TV show was very good, but it never reached a large audience. Maybe because the age of Indy in the stories jumped around too much.

I wonder what channel the show might end up on. Fox?

No mercy you have ... (4, Insightful)

orangeguru (411012) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853081)

Every additional Star Wars remake, rerelease, addition, TV series, book, comic, condom, game WITHIN the movies time frame will make the MYTH only WEAKER. Damnit.

Re:No mercy you have ... (1)

rokzy (687636) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853128)

the MYTH that it was good in the first place?

okay, so it might have been fantastic the first time around, but it has got to be one of the most overrated series ever.

even if nothing was done after the first three films so it was as "pure" as possible, imo once the people old enough to have seen it on release die it would have been completely forgotten. after ROTS (which I think was okay to good but mostly just due to Ewan's enthusiasm) I tried watching the first film again. I got about 10 mins in before I got so bored I had to stop - "stop dicking about in the desert and get to the point!".

Re:No mercy you have ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853248)

I have to turn in my geek badge because honestly, I only saw the trilogy right before phantom menace came out in theaters. It was cool to see Ep. IV, just because I recall certain space ships my friends had way back then. And of course Darth Vader. But the movie was somewhat boring compared to my favorite.. Empire Strikes Back. Even ROTJ I thought was better than A New Hope. But after watching the trilogy, I really did not see that big of a difference between it and phantom menace that came out. If anything, I think Star Wars lost its "campy" feeling which made the older episodes seem a little more adverturous. Action wasn't so break-neck back then, and things happened at a more natural pace. Other than that, the new trilogy is not much different than the old...

Re: No mercy you have ... (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853399)


> okay, so it might have been fantastic the first time around, but it has got to be one of the most overrated series ever.

With possible competition from The Matrix and the LotR books.

> even if nothing was done after the first three films so it was as "pure" as possible, imo once the people old enough to have seen it on release die it would have been completely forgotten.

IMO eIV wasn't great, but at least it was fun. Somewhere along the way Lucas lost his way, first by trying to take it too seriously, then by trying to make it a big-screen babysitter.

> after ROTS [...] I tried watching the first film again. I got about 10 mins in before I got so bored I had to stop - "stop dicking about in the desert and get to the point!".

I said this during the last SW story, but I'll say it again due to context: IIRC, the original edit was much slower paced than the versions now available are. I remember renting them just before the revisions came out, and being distracted by the long pauses between exchanges of dialog, as if the actors were filmed speaking their parts separately and then spliced together without enough scissoring in between.

OTOH, the WB's broadcast channel showed Clash of the Titans today, and I was astonished to discover that it came out in 1981. I always thought it was just some campy leftover 60's crap. We may err in judging eIV by modern expectations of how a movie should be made.

Re:No mercy you have ... (1)

KingPrad (518495) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853184)

And there are so many pre and post-movie stories contained in the various comics and novels that would make excellent television or movies.

Why don't they make a TV series from the book "I, Jedi", the Jedi Academy trilogy, or best of all - the Thrawn Trilogy? They could make one badass mini-series with Thrawn. There are many good story arcs in the Star Wars universe, and most lie outside the existing movies. I'm partial to those after the original trilogy, but there are good stories from before the prequels as well.

I would like it if Lucas would open up the rights to other Star Wars movies and parcel them out to proven science fiction directors - let each one do a movie. Like I said, I'd love to see Corran Horn or Grand Admiral Thrawn brought to life.

one of the most successful bad writers in history (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853412)

Mr Cranky says:
"Here's proof that Lucas may be one of the most successful bad writers in history.
Ask yourself: What was the most memorable line in the entire "Star Wars" series?
If you can even think of one, good for you, but if you think hard, the answer is obvious
(and it wasn't Jake Lloyd's "Yippee!" from Episode I).
It occurs in "The Empire Strikes Back."
Han Solo is about to be frozen and shipped to Jabba the Hutt as Princess Leia looks on in horror.
"I love you," she tells him.
Han looks at her and responds: "I know."
Well, that line was improvised by Harrison Ford.
Lucas didn't write it.
If Lucas had insisted on it being performed as written, it would have been something like:
"I love you too, my darling. I'm getting frozen now!""
http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/starwarsepisode3rev engeofthesith.html [mrcranky.com]

Re:No mercy you have ... (1)

defy god (822637) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853204)

and damn them for making people watch it...

Re:No mercy you have ... (1)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853247)

"Every additional Star Wars remake, rerelease, addition, TV series, book, comic, condom, game WITHIN the movies time frame will make the MYTH only WEAKER. Damnit."

Kind of reminds me when Enterprise 'explained' the smooth headed Klingons. I was one of the few that enjoyed that show, but I really despised the sterilization of that detail. I had a lot of fun imagining what would cause that. "We do not discuss it with outsiders."

I see your point, man.

So... (1)

John Pfeiffer (454131) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853083)

...are we going to find out why Wedge is indestructible and has the devil's own luck?

Re:So... (3, Informative)

FidelCatsro (861135) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853137)

Wedge is not indestructible, He was just one of the best, if not the best pilot in the galaxy

Re:So... (1)

harkabeeparolyn (711320) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853300)

And without using the Force. Hell, if he had Jedi training he might not even need to use ship. Just fly around zapping baddies like Space Ghost. :)

Re:So... (1)

ed (79221) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853152)

Cos he's a Scot

Re:So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853302)

Obiwan, I am your uncle!

Re:So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853277)


So... (Score:1)
by John Pfeiffer (454131) on Saturday June 18, @06:25PM (#12853083) ...are we going to find out why Wedge is indestructible and has the devil's own luck?


Or why Captain Antilles (a relative of Wedge's?) wasn't promoted between Episodes III and IV?

Hmm. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853084)

In related news, George Lucas continues to shit diamonds...

Re:Hmm. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853177)

And in more related news De Beers is apparently in negotiation with George Lucas for his excrement.

3D Effect right now... (4, Funny)

NightWulf (672561) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853085)

I'll just go to the zoo and taunt the monkeys. Eventually they'll throw some feces at my face, and I already have the same effect of the new Star Wars flying at me in 3D.

Sigh (1)

GileadGreene (539584) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853091)

Hope they don't trash the mythos established in the old Brian Daley 'Han Solo' novels when the do their interstitial TV series.

Re:Sigh (4, Insightful)

buddachile (115746) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853212)

from TFA: Do you really want to see a young Luke, Han, etc. interacting?

in episode 4 han and luke interacted in a fashion that suggested that was the first time they had met. how would it make sense for them to interact in the TV series when the time frame is the 20 years between episodes 3 & 4?

Enterprise? (2, Funny)

outz (448278) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853093)

I thought they cancelled Enterprise?

TV show explanation (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853094)

It just means the episodes will be 45 min files in 4:3 aspect ratio, instead of 135 min files in 2.35:1.

Re:TV show explanation (1)

Lullabye_Muse (808255) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853442)

Wrong they'd be shot in 16:9 or 2:35:1 because of hdtv rollouts in 2006. You should pay more attention to this stuff since you're hanging around slashdot.

I'm excited!!!! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853111)

I am SO excited about this, I'm sure it will have the quality of other tv shows based on movies such as "Stargate Atlantis".

I'm so excited, I gotta pee...

Re:I'm excited!!!! (1)

Spad (470073) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853196)

Spot on - well, apart from the teeny, tiny fact that Stargate: Atlantis wasn't based on a movie.

Atlantis is a spin-off of SG1, which *was* based on a movie and, having lasted 9 series, can't be doing too badly.

certain characters? (2, Interesting)

cei (107343) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853114)

...reveal how certain characters ended up together

Isn't the main unknown in that gap between III and IV how Han met Chewie? All the other Ep IV relationships are fairly well accounted for...

Re:certain characters? (3, Funny)

jspoon (585173) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853144)

Isn't the main unknown in that gap between III and IV how Han met Chewie? All the other Ep IV relationships are fairly well accounted for...

Including so many that no one cared about. Such as: Why Yoda and Chewbacca are such good friends. And: Why Baba Fett has a grudge against Obi Wan.

Re:certain characters? (1)

cei (107343) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853185)

Good reason for no-one to care... Ep III establishes a Yoda/Chewbacca relationship enough... the fact that they never interact in IV, V or VI makes any intermediate story unnecessary. Likewise, Mace killing Jango in II is enough for young Boba to hate all Jedi, but he never encounters Obi Wan in IV, V or VI, and doesn't really seem to care about Luke at all... just getting Han for Jabba's bounty. Again, a non-story.

Re:certain characters? (1)

Council (514577) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853265)

We need a simple, polite word for "fyi, you missed the humor in the gp post."

though if you go back and read it with a different viewpoint, it's really hard to see it.

Re:certain characters? (1)

imsabbel (611519) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853270)

I guess the greatparent was sarcastic.

I mean, those are just more examples of the vast open starwars universe shrinking and shrinking because everybody knows everybody else from way back ...

Re:certain characters? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853335)

Chewie and Yoda (Jedi Übermaster) fought together at the end of the clone war. Chewie meets Han. Chewie and Han meet Luke and Obiwan. Han says he has no reason to believe in the force.
The story in between Ep 3 and 4 could be about why Chewie and Han don't communicate. Perhaps they see a marriage councilor (Lando???). Endless possibilities!

Re:certain characters? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853198)

From a movie standpoint, it's true that this relationship is undefined.

However, in the supplemental materials (not Extended Universe, but Lucas-brand books and companion guides and such), this has been set already:

Han was an officer in the Empire, and was serving duty on Kashyyyk as the Empire was enslaving the Wookiees. He thought it was horrible the way they were being treated, and so he freed Chewbacca and escaped with him. That's one of the reasons he had to go underground and make a living as a smuggler - he was already in hot water with the Imperials for abandoning his post.

Young Luke Skywalker? (1)

afroken (721165) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853127)

Instead of turning perfectly good actors like Ewan McGregor and Liam Neeson into convincing CPR resuscitation dummies ("Annie, Annie, are you okay?"), Star Wars is going for the rich acting experience that children provide.

I was hoping the television show would at least have a Dawson's Creek vibe. That is the only other young Skywalker I can see. Wasn't he fifteen or so in Star Wars, anyway?

Someone call 911!

Bah. Another 'kiddy show'? (1)

Jarnis (266190) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853139)

Didn't they already learn that EP1 sucked most, and once they inserted some major Jedi Ass Kicking (EP2 and EP3), someone finally got interested.

Nobody is interested in how luke grew up to be such a brat that he is at the start of EP4. Star Wars is all about epic (and maybe not so epic) battles, not about the growing pains of a twit.

I wish they'd make X-Wing TV-series. The book series, while somewhat uneven, would instantly provide couple of seasons worth of interesting story. And even if they'd just rip the characters and the setting, that alone could give tons of Good Star Wars stuff.

Kiddy Luke Skywalker. BAH. Morons...

Re:Bah. Another 'kiddy show'? (1)

blincoln (592401) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853271)

Nobody is interested in how luke grew up to be such a brat that he is at the start of EP4. Star Wars is all about epic (and maybe not so epic) battles, not about the growing pains of a twit.

It's a story *for* children. They're supposed to watch the various episodes as they grow older. That's why Anakin is a child in Ep1.

Complaining about Lucas' target audience for Star Wars is like getting upset that the Prydain books are typeset with an oversized font and relatively short.

Re:Bah. Another 'kiddy show'? (1)

Nasarius (593729) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853374)

It's a story *for* children. They're supposed to watch the various episodes as they grow older.

Which explains why Episode 3 is much more disturbing than 4-6...oh, no it doesn't. Please show where George Lucas has said that his target audience is children.

Re:Bah. Another 'kiddy show'? (1)

TheKidWho (705796) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853340)

What would truly be awesome is if they made a Star TV Series or new Movie Series based on Knights of The Old Republic.... man o man that would definetly rock =)

Star Wars Anonymous... (1, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853142)

I'm a Star Wars fan. I have no existence without Star Wars. My life is meaningless without Star Wars (except Jar Jar, may he die in the TV sereis). I want to give up Star Wars. Please help me... :P

Prequels... (2, Insightful)

RandomLetters (892800) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853146)

Is the whole concept of "prequels" flawed?

I found that all the Star Wars prequels focused on acting out things which we already knew the result of, showing younger versions of characters or parents of characters, and ruining our personal concept of what went before.

Are there any instances where "prequels" were successful and expanded the narrative?

Re:Prequels... (1)

JWW (79176) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853170)

Yep, you've very succinctly explained why I hate prequels, and also why Episode III is by far the best of them. It the one that actually SHOWS us the story we wanted to see. One and Two were filler.

Prequels leave the audience expecting so much that they hardly ever pay off. Enterprise, anyone?

Re:Prequels... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853207)

the hobbitt?

Re:Prequels... (1)

Bishop (4500) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853518)

Except that The Hobbit was written before The Lord of the Rings. Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] has some details.

Re:Prequels... (1)

wideBlueSkies (618979) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853252)

>>Are there any instances where "prequels" were successful and expanded the narrative?

2 words:
The Godfather.

wbs.

Re:Prequels... (1)

great throwdini (118430) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853437)

2 words:
The Godfather.

You probably mean The Godfather: Part II, in reference to the depiction of the early years of Vito Corleone (as portrayed by De Niro) before he became Don Corleone. That story was told alongside another narrative within a single film.

The Godfather, on the other hand, was a straightforward tale and not a prequel of any kind.

Re:Prequels... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853314)

Batman Begins.

Prequels seem to be the hot trend...

Re:Prequels... (1)

TeacherOfHeroes (892498) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853391)

I found reading the prequels to the Foundation series (Asimov) to be very rewarding. Because the series started out as a collection of short stories, there was very little information available about what came before to be spoiled.

Re:Prequels... (1)

grumbel (592662) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853419)

### Is the whole concept of "prequels" flawed?

I wouldn't say so, "Batman Begins" seems to be quite good, some of "Animatrix" was great, "Escape From Butcher Bay" seems to be pretty good, watching the first few minutes of Indy3 was fun and Buffy/Angel also had a bunch of going back in time over the whole series that is pretty good as well and there is also "Knights of the old Repulic". Ok, some of this are actually games, not movies, but it shows that one can do plenty of interesting stuff with story happening before some movie.

The problem with the StarWars prequels was that they simply hadn't much story of their own, boring CloneWars here, stupid Jedi there and a bunch of pointless back-references all over the place (look that ship looks almost like a tie-fighter and that almost like a x-wing and there is Chewbacca) and worst of all they simply missed out many interesting parts. Grievous for example seems to be a rather interesting character, in the movies however we don't get to know much about his background at all. The CloneWars cartoons actually show some of it and it would have been very nice to see some of that on the big screen. And after all the prequels simply fail the whole reason why they where created in the first place, to show us why Anakin got Darth Vader, this most important point was simply rushes over in a few minutes (Imperator: wanna be evil? Anakin: Yep).

Re:Prequels... (1)

KillerDeathRobot (818062) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853474)

Batman Begins isn't really a prequel at all, as I understand it. It's just a restart of the movie continuity (and a badly needed one at that). I have little doubt that there will be sequels which cover similar ground as the previous Batman movies (such as the origin of the Joker) which will likely be quite different than those other movies.

Re:Prequels... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12853556)

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom wasn't bad.

Re:Prequels... (1)

CrazyTalk (662055) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853586)

"Batman Begins"? I haven't seen it yet, but others I know loved it. I'm hard pressed to think of any I've seen myself. Certainly not "Dumb and Dumberer"

Re:Prequels... (1)

zippthorne (748122) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853587)

Foudation did a pretty good job of it. Generally with prequels you aren't presumed to read in chronological order, rather in the order they're written. SW screwed this up by numbering the episodes, a good gimic when 4 came out, but not so fun when they actually tried to fill in the gaps. I won't say what I thought he should've done though, I know my skill level at writing screenplays. (hint: it's less than 1 and not negative.. at least i think it's not negative)

3d Technology (1)

RickPartin (892479) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853202)

What kind of 3d technology will it use? Please god don't let it be those red/blue glasses.

Re:3d Technology (1)

strredwolf (532) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853226)

Hopefully better tech than what was used in Ep III. That thing kept screaming at me "I'M COMPUTER GENERATED!!!!" at 24 frames per second. Most of the runs, flips, and similar action sequences would switch to the CGI, then switch back like nothing happened. ARGH!!!!! Ruin the film, why don't you? More practice Lucas needs. See Final Flight of the Osirus, he must. Completely forget it was computer generated, I did. Good animation it was.

Re:3d Technology (1)

jangobongo (812593) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853266)

You may or may not be aware of this, but they also have polarized glasses [3dglasses.net] for 3D movies. If you've ever been to a 3D show at a theme park, this [3dglasses.net] is what they use.

Yawn (1)

quokkapox (847798) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853224)

Can't wait to see these with a big timecode floating in front of my eyes... kind of like a heads-up display.

How early they will be "accidentally" leaked?

I've Got a Bad Feeling About This (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853240)

Who cares about another rehash? I want him to tell us when we'll get 3D TV, like in Star Wars teleconferences. And whether the real thing will actually be watchable, or the kind of "can you see/hear me now?" crap in the movie.

3D.... (1)

sore loser (778892) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853268)

Han shoots YOU first

Young Skywalker (4, Funny)

Kaimelar (121741) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853337)

He also mentioned that one of the shows would follow the adventures of a young Luke Skywalker . . .

I don't see why so many people are negative about this prospect. I mean, how could this possibly go wrong? ;-) [penny-arcade.com]

Trailer (2, Informative)

jrivar59 (146428) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853349)

A trailer for the upcoming TV series (Young Darth) can be found here. [keltechandjohnnyb.com]

Star {Wars,Trek} (2, Insightful)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853354)


It seems that Star Trek isn't the only over-exploited franchise that needs to take a rest for a decade or two.

Adventures? (2, Insightful)

TeacherOfHeroes (892498) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853358)

I thought that episode IV kind of established that Luke's life up to that point had been really boring...

How can you make a tv series that needs 20-24 interesting things to happen each year out of that?

Re: Adventures? (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853436)


> I thought that episode IV kind of established that Luke's life up to that point had been really boring...

Now that is a story line that Lucas is qualified to do right.

wtf.... (1)

Munk (59689) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853370)

I thought the whole point of the first scenes of Ep IV was to establish the fact that Tatooine was a very boring place and that Luke couldn't wait to get away from the planet. Assuming this is right, then how much of a TV show could you make about working on a moisture farm??? Of course, I'm sure Lucas and company will just ignore this fact because they haven't worried about any of the other continuity issues.

We get to see him dust some womp rats (1)

Urusai (865560) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853484)

It'll be like "The Dukes of Hazzard" with a land speeder instead of a Charger (call it the "General Ackbar"). Luke and his step-brother Bo zip around Tatooine running Corellian moonshine, while their sexy adopted Twi'lek cousin Deyzee distracts the klutzy bounty hunters that Boss Jabba sends after them. It's must-see TV!!

Re:wtf.... (1)

Mahou (873114) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853550)

they haven't worried about any of the other continuity issues.

well it did work for Smallville

Not good (1)

JahToasted (517101) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853427)

Why don't they just make up new characters but have it set in the SW universe. yeah the occasional cameo of chewie or the droids, would be fine. And of course Jimmy Smits as bail organa would be great, and probably neccessary since I figure he would be the major player in the rebellion.

But do we really need to know how Jabba met that pale dude with that snake thing on his head? Or am I the only one that found the appearance of the original series character so tacked on?

Give it a break! (1)

dalmiroy2k (768278) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853431)

"Star Wars: Clone Wars" cartoons were better that episode 1 and 2 IMHO. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361243/ [imdb.com] Sometimes TV series can be better that the movie they are based. Take Stargate: SG1 for example.

Does that mean... (1)

thanasakis (225405) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853435)

...that I will be able to see this [leiasmetalbikini.com] in 3D?

Super 3D special effect (4, Funny)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853461)

Depending on the angle you watch it from, either Han or Greedo can shoot first!

The "adventures" of Young Luke? (4, Insightful)

thesandtiger (819476) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853477)

I thought the whole point of him whining about life on Tatooine was because the only adventures he was having involved "zeroing" womp rats.

The problem with such Superboy-esque things is that they just can't do too much with them - we know he can't die, can't suffer any real loss or develop at all as a character (after all, the Luke we first met was hardly heroic - he whines a lot and builds model shuttles. Wow!)

Show me Han Solo's earlier life. Show me Leia's life - she at least seems to have been doing things for the rebellion. Show me anything, but god, please, don't show me 10 episodes of "Luke and his old pal Wompy get in trouble with Uncle Owen when they get sand in tender spots."

budget (1)

geniusnate (870801) | more than 9 years ago | (#12853495)

Talk about sending starwars into the water. All I can say it 'budget show'. How about throw some more cheesy dialog and cg in there while you are it.
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