GUBA makes Usenet search easy as Google 253
ChipGuy writes "Despite the growing popularity of p2p networks,Usenet is the real treasure trove of multimedia content including vintage cartoons, westerns and popular television shows. Nearly two terabytes of data is added everyday to Usenet. GUBA, a seven year old San Francisco company is making it easier to find the information on Usenet through the browser. Its like " Google for Usenet," says this report."
Google for usenet? (Score:5, Insightful)
And here I thought... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Google for usenet? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Google for usenet? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Google for usenet? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Google for usenet? (Score:2)
Re: paying... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Google for usenet? (Score:2)
Re:Google for usenet? (Score:2)
Re:Google for usenet? (Score:2, Funny)
SSSHHH!!! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:SSSHHH!!! (Score:2)
Re:SSSHHH!!! (Score:2)
Re:SSSHHH!!! (Score:2)
Of course that doesn't mean they don't know about it, but maybe not enough of them know enough about it?
They haven't reached critical lawsuit mass.
Re:SSSHHH!!! (Score:2, Informative)
Surely the commercial newsfeeds could in fact be regarded as 'Pay as you go' topsites. How they get left alone to profit from rampant copyright theft is beyond me.
Not that I care. I download films from my own ISP's newsserver, which is one of the few left in the uk to have a decent binary newsfeed.
I'm sure the only reason they keep it going is that its cheaper for them to supply as much of their customers
Re:SSSHHH!!! (Score:2)
First rule of Usenet: Don't talk about Usenet Second rule of Usenet: DO NOT talk about Usenet
Er:FFFUUU!!! (Score:2)
Um, I mean
Fubhyqa'g gung or va EBG13?
How does this differ from other UseNet Archives? (Score:5, Insightful)
Is there something that reading the article and checking out the site didn't make obvious?
Re:How does this differ from other UseNet Archives (Score:3, Informative)
I think I'll stick to EasyNews. It's cheaper, they don't log what I download, and they have an awesome web based search taht works well with FlashGot.
Also, after reading the linked article, their CEO sounds pretty clueless. They are blocking the MP3s because the RIAA has been so agressive about enforcing copyright, but will be leaving on TV shows because "the TV guys seem to
Re:How does this differ from other UseNet Archives (Score:2, Informative)
Does EasyNews do that?
Re:How does this differ from other UseNet Archives (Score:5, Insightful)
won't last (Score:2)
it also costs money to use their service.
Re:won't last (Score:5, Informative)
Oh, wait. They weren't.
Re:won't last (Score:5, Informative)
The difference here is GUBA is shouting from the rooftops that they're hosting copyrighted files. Easynews, Giganews, etc., all kept it relatively obscure, just saying "we index all of Usenet" which was understood by smart users and generally ignored by everyone else. Now all of the basic users who are just now figuring out how Bitorrent works are going to say, "Wha? I can get music and movies on Usenet?" and, frankly, where the basic users go, so goes the RIAA.
Re:won't last (Score:5, Interesting)
Usenet is almost as distributed as email, and just as old.
Shutting Usenet down will be like trying to catch a fart in the wind. You may get some of it, but you'll never get all of it, and it won't be easy.
Re:won't last (Score:2)
Re:won't last (Score:2)
Advert? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Advert? (Score:2)
My guess is that this is another case where the editor thought it was interesting, so he posted it. Sure, this site is based on user-pays model, but it's not really different from a advertiser-pays site getting plugged when the editor thinks it's interesting.
Pirated Material (Score:2)
Re:Pirated Material (Score:2)
Actually, they are/i holding them on their machines. They get by with it for the same reason that your ISP gets by with having a router that has a bit of memory to hold a packet queue even though packets in that cue might contain bits of copyrighted works that their customer is downloading. It is also the same reason that Slashdot couldn't get sued (provided they removed it if notified) for a user posting a commen
Re:Pirated Material (Score:3, Interesting)
Two words: Common Carrier. It's the same reason the phone company can't be held liable for obscene phone calls. As long as you carry everything without blocking, you can be (legally) ignorant of what's there.
All I need.. (Score:5, Informative)
God bless the creators.
Re:All I need.. (Score:2)
Re:All I need.. (Score:2)
Re:All I need.. (Score:2, Informative)
"posts" are just a listing of the files that logically belong together, and are compiled by the human editors of which you speak...
by searching for "files" you lose out on the nicely grouped posts, so you have to select the relavent files yourself, but you can find stuff that hasn't been "posted" by the editors yet...
Re:All I need.. (Score:2)
Outfuckingstanding (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Outfuckingstanding (Score:2)
Sheesh. I guess I was reading too fast, but for a while I was wondering "WTF's RIMPAA?"
Anyway, back on-topic. Yeah, it's sorta amazin' isn't it. They're archiving and cataloging usenet groups which are self-identified as "gigabytes of copyright violations", and they're trying to make teh big moneez at it. Yup, thanks for screwin' up another network motherlode by stripmining it, ya putzes.
Re:Outfuckingstanding (Score:2)
Re:Outfuckingstanding (Score:2)
Re:Outfuckingstanding (Score:2)
Re:Outfuckingstanding (Score:3, Interesting)
So they know it's there. If they aren't actively working to stop i
Re:Outfuckingstanding (Score:2)
Re:Outfuckingstanding (Score:2)
Well if they broke up I'll just get my warez from The Covenant.
Wow... more advertising on /. (Score:5, Informative)
Since others will probably mention google groups, I'll just mention that google groups doesn't search for binaries whereas this is geared towards a binaries search. If this service was free I would probably use it. But it's not so I'll continue to use my new reader.
Re:Wow... more advertising on /. (Score:2)
More exactly, Google Groups does not carry nor index the any of the alt.binaries.* [google.com] heirarchy groups... which is where most of the multimedia (...pr0n...) is carried.
A pity Usenet is so spam infested nowadays... not that the signal-to-noise ratio was ever that great, even before the green card [wikipedia.org] incident.
Worst. Advert. Ever. (Score:5, Insightful)
Any particular reason why this got posted? Did the editor get free membership in return?
Been around for a while (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Been around for a while (Score:2)
Als
Sure its pay.. (Score:2)
Mod parent down: "Not Newsworthy" (Score:5, Insightful)
Yawn.
Mod main story down: Not newsworthy
Not Worthwhile (Score:2, Insightful)
Hmmm DejaGrokster DejaKazaa (Score:2)
Free news servers (Score:2, Informative)
Idiots (Score:2)
Why not just try and sell the company to them in the first place and save the wasted time?
WTF?! Easynews has 100TB and a better search (Score:5, Insightful)
Easynews kicks the crap out of GUBA and is cheaper. We have
a better global search, carry over 100TB, bigger/faster gigE
pipes, even unrar and thumbnail your svcd's!!
So I ask, what's up with this ad?
-- godzilla
Re:WTF?! Easynews has 100TB and a better search (Score:2, Funny)
Re:WTF?! Easynews has 100TB and a better search (Score:2)
And there goes Usenet... (Score:5, Funny)
I hate you guys. Just shut your dirty mouths.
Re:And there goes Usenet... (Score:2, Funny)
GUBA is "News"?! (Score:2, Informative)
Did they change their interface? Is it faster? Why is this new?
There are other sites for finding recent Usenet binary postings. However, they all link to some level of intrinsically non-public binary information (just like GUBA, or BT for that matter). O
Re:GUBA is "News"?! (Score:2)
An automated system to find porn. (Score:2)
Isn't that already covered? (Score:2)
Hmmm...
http://www.newzbin.com/ [newzbin.com] seems to have all this covered and for free.
I'm writing a tool which will hopefully interface with newzbin - www.donutmonster.com - and run on several OSs.
Who does actually host the alt.binary.* groups? (Score:2)
Re:Who does actually host the alt.binary.* groups? (Score:2)
Re:Who does actually host the alt.binary.* groups? (Score:2)
Re:Who does actually host the alt.binary.* groups? (Score:2)
Screwed up the links somehow. Giganews [giganews.com], EasyNews [easynews.com], Newsfeeds.com [newsfeeds.com].
Re:Who does actually host the alt.binary.* groups? (Score:2)
You can't block usenet, nor can you block posters. It's a relay system, no one hosts the content. What this company is doing is slurping it of the news line and archiving it. There is no central authority on usenet, especially in the "alt.*" area.
My ISP carries many of the binary groups, including some of the more iffy ones. Warez, filth, nothing blatantl
All googled out (Score:2, Funny)
Really makes me wonder just how much Google stock did they buy anyway??
Google
Usenet is the anti-bittorrent (Score:2)
Usenet is wildly inefficient. Data is expanded into an messy ascii encoding, handed to and fro by copying-in-full between thousands of completely uninterested parties, to the order of gigabytes per day. Then the actual interested users download it, taking no part of the burden, quite possibly missing chunks with no way to retrieve them, copy yet again the original from the ascii encoding, log
Re:Usenet is the anti-bittorrent (Score:2)
Of course, your ISP's news server will likely be faster than your torrent. For instance, if I'm downloading
Its incredibly inefficient, but the average end user will fin
And that's OK. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Usenet is the anti-bittorrent (Score:2)
You're correct, of course, but what's the alternative? If it was scrapped (not that something that has no real center or base of operations can really be scrapped) then whatever beast replaced it certainly wouldn't allow the complete freedom we have right now.
Usenet's really just "one of those things." It's horribly inefficient, it takes some know-how and a lot of patience to access, but the rewards are worth it.
Revocation of license to manufacture similes (Score:2)
We already have a Google for Usenet. It was called DejaNews, which was bought by--you guessed it--Google [google.com].
Hmmm. (Score:2)
And their site - it ain't no friggin' google
Google is free. Guba is bloody expensive.
Easy way to get sued... (Score:2)
Combined with bittorrent (Score:2)
All videos available in Flash (Score:2, Insightful)
Eric...
(and no.. nobody at Slashdot got a free account for this post... but we'd be happy to hand them out..
Re:All videos available in Flash (Score:3, Informative)
great (Score:2)
2TB/day?! (Score:2)
Re:2TB/day?! (Score:2)
Already exists (Score:2)
http://groups.google.com/ [google.com]
Ah, the pains of non-mac users.... (Score:3, Informative)
a fine foil for Google indeed (Score:2)
and since your usage will be tracked through your account, you'll probably end up getting sued someday.
Re:That's great... (Score:2)
* Spouse found out
* Card was used by a minor
and others
+Pete
Re:Google for Usenet? (Score:2)
Does seem like they're riding coat-tails by mentioning google though.
Key word: "MULTIMEDIA" (Score:5, Informative)
A way to search *text*
Usenet right on google, and it is searchable.
Except that it doesn't include pictures, music, and videos. Try searching google for alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 [google.com] and see what you get.
Although I have a hard time picturing how these guys are gonna stay alive once the MPAA/RIAA finds out about them.
Re:Key word: "MULTIMEDIA" (Score:3, Interesting)
Dear Lord. If you're going to offer a response to someone that thinks the intarweb happens in their browser, maybe provide a linky [harley.com] that is more meaningful? Sorry, kids, Google Groups is nothing but a pretend front end to something else, and not a very good one at that. At least Microsoft hosts their microsoft.public hierarchy, though it's ludicrous the way in which they pretend it's something they invented and fill full with content.
As for
Re:Key word: "MULTIMEDIA" (Score:2)
And if you're going to offer a response criticizing a response, you may want to read the original post, which clearly indicated that he already knew what usenet is.
Re:Key word: "MULTIMEDIA" (Score:3, Interesting)
If they start examining (and then restricting) what people post, then they open themselves up to lawsuits when they miss.
Besides, would it really stop anyone - people could just move the stuff to a different newsgroup.
Smart. Real Smart. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Before everyone says "it exists already" (Score:2)
Re:BugMeNot on GUBA (Score:2)
Followup, attn mods (Score:2)
Hey, not flaming I'm being serious. Quickest way to destroy a new technology is to put the spotlight on it and say "it helps you get copies of copyrighted media". Which the summary says, thusly:
Usenet is the real treasure trove of multimedia content including vintage cartoons, westerns and popular television shows.
If it wasn't for public statements like these, BitTorrent [google.com] wouldn't be in any trouble. Right? So let's keep quiet about our old beloved Usenet so the *AA doesn't bring the hammer down.
Re:warez search (Score:2)
It seems to me that Usenet, so long as it goes unnoticed by the powers that be, will be the safe haven for such content.
Actually, other than the Scientology debacle, has anyone gotten in hot water over copyright violations by posting to Usenet?
Re:I like google too, because Bush = Failure (Score:2)
Re:Internet's best kept secret - now down the toil (Score:2)