Intel Launches New Pentium Extreme Edition 965 139
RL-20 II Rider writes "Although Intel is hard at work readying their next-gen Conroe core for a proposed 2H '06 release, it seems engineers at the company are still improving upon the existing 65nm Presler core. This
review of the brand-new 3.73GHz Pentium Extreme Edition 965 dual-core processor shows that the CPU is based on a new stepping of the Presler core that runs cooler and overclocks higher than older chips, while consuming a bit less power as well."
Extreme edition? (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Extreme edition? (Score:2)
Sorry, you must be thinking of AMD's Athlon 5000++ X4 DDR3 Quad Core Radical Edition.
Re:Extreme edition? (Score:5, Funny)
In 2010, will your razor have more blades than your CPU has cores, or the other way around? I wonder...
Re:Extreme edition? (Score:3, Funny)
Neither, your CPU will be so powerful that it will shoot out a laser which can be used for hair removal, cosmetic surgery, and enemy annihilation (among other things.)
Re:Extreme edition? (Score:2)
Case windows are also required for operatio
Pentium Name (Score:3, Interesting)
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Yeah, what the fuck? (Score:5, Funny)
First of all, this chip is at the very least an Extreme Turbo Edition 1078. However, I have a strong suspicion about it being closer to a Super Mega Extreme Turbo 8000.
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Hey, AMD started it with the meaningless numbers.. (Score:2)
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Re:Pentium Name (Score:2, Informative)
Today, if we talk about x86 compatibility, we rarely talk about 386 compatibility. The *least* would be 486DX, since the 386 didn't have FPU. Personally, I consider the PPro to be the current base architecture. Hey, I had a PPro200 and it served our family well as a desktop u [slashdot.org]
Re:Pentium Name (Score:2)
We talk about i386 code all the time. The 286 had support for multitasking OSes, but was awkward to use-- it was something about having to reset the chip to switch tasks. The 386 was the first Intel chip that could run a multitasking system reasonably well, and today it's still the target for the ultimate in backward compatibility. I don't reca
Re:Pentium Name (Score:2)
I can think of one area today that does compile software for 486s, 386s, and older chips: embedded devices. Here [soekris.com] are new 486 based PCs that can be a firewall or any similar device, or can just run Linux for general purposes. There are even new 6502 [westerndesigncenter.com] and 8086/8088 based chips avai
Singlethreaded performance (Score:2)
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Fuck the metric system (Score:5, Funny)
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Oblig. Spaceballs (Score:5, Funny)
Dark Helmet: No. No. No. No. Extreme is too slow.
Colonel Sandurz: Extreme too slow?
Dark Helmet: Yes. We're gonna have to go straight to an Intel Pentium Ludicrous Edition.
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apache estimate (Score:2)
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bottleneck order (Score:3, Informative)
Basically, it isn't going to help you much. If you put a lot of ram into it that'd probably help (try to get as much into ram as possible). If you have a huge amount of pics (60 gigs) a 10,000 rpm Raptor sata would probably be a good investment.
All that doesn't mean much if the network pipe is too small to dish out that many pics.
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Core version? (Score:2)
Wicked (Score:4, Funny)
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But, you're on the right track. The successor to the 'w00t' will probably be named the 'FP!!!1!one!!eleven!!'
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Intel should be ashamed. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Intel should be ashamed. (Score:5, Informative)
Preliminary reports even say the Core chips are up to 35% faster than the AMD64 chips, and they don't even have EM64T to fall back on. But, for the purposes of this discussion, since this is a Pentium 4, it is still quite the power hog, but they've made advances with this chip that do warrant some attention (take a look at the benchmarks), and with their new $50 water cooler and overclocking, the Pentium 4 once again takes the performance crown.
I'm all for AMD, but Intel has cleaned up their act too, and refusing to notice that is a fatal mistake, no matter how much Slashdot/AMD coolaid you've consumed.
Re:Intel should be ashamed. (Score:3, Funny)
Yes... you will infact DIE if you have not noticed that.
-JesseRe:Intel should be ashamed. (Score:1)
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Re:Intel should be ashamed. (Score:2, Informative)
This one [anandtech.com] is the preliminary benchmark testing that a lot of folks questioned and this one [anandtech.com] is the follow up that answered a lot of the concerns about the first one. The conclusion was the same, though... at 2.66GHz Conroe beats an overclocked 2.8GHz FX-60 (overclocked to simulate the upcoming FX-62) quite handily (20%+ most of the time) while using 1/2 the power of the AMD
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LibertineR should be ashamed. (Score:2)
Damn, you are one slow motherfucker. Slashdot (and every Apple fan site in the world [google.com], FWIW) has only been going apeshit about the Intel Core chips for what
Re:Intel should be ashamed. (Score:1)
It would be more accurate to say the chip is "half fast"
Re:Intel should be ashamed. (Score:3, Insightful)
Anyone who can look at this breakdown of the new Core design [realworldtech.com], understand it, and STILL proclaim AMD the performance leader is retarded. The extra simple decoder means potentially 33% more thoroughput out the gate, and the fused micro-ops can add another 5-10% performance improvement (assuming you have enough execution units to use all this). The 128-bit SSE unit, plus the ability for simple decoders to handle packed SSE i
Where to buy Intel Core Duo ... (Score:2)
Cool! Where can I buy one?
http://store.apple.com/ [apple.com]
Click on Mac mini, iMac, or MacBook Pro.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Re:Where to buy Intel Core Duo ... (Score:2)
They are basically Pentium M's.
Re:Where to buy Intel Core Duo ... (Score:2)
No. There is merely an improved version of Core coming soon. A more accurate statement would have been the Pentium M was the first "Core" architecture chip. The architecture based performance improvements relative to the P4 appeared in the Pentium M. Now were are about to get refinements, not an entirely new design.
Re:Intel should be ashamed. (Score:1)
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Intel Core Duo, anyone? It has more or less the same performance and it eats less power
Sure, core duo isn't being used in the entire Intel product line, but being objective I'd say that the best Intel chips (core duo) are starting to look better than the AMD's ones.
Re:Intel should be ashamed. (Score:2)
No, at full load, it gets up to a scortching 41C. I have a great case, and an Arctic Cooler on each of my 7800 GTX boards, which are shooting hot air out of the case, which has 8 other fans in it as well. I am partially deaf, so the noise wouldnt bother me from all those fans if I could hear it.
extreme? (Score:4, Insightful)
Not trying to troll, just pointing out the extremely narrow audience this chip would appeal to given that they are moving on to a different core soon. I'm just hoping this will drive down costs of the 'lower end' dual core chips soon.
Re:extreme? They Only Need to Sell One (Score:2)
Corvettes also sell to an extremely narrow audience. However, having the Corvette in the lineup sells a lot more Chevy econo boxes in the process from people pretending that their Impala is a close cousin and next best thing to a Vette.
Re:extreme? (Score:2)
In three years, this thing will cost $200, or maybe less. Then the specs will mean something to Joe average consumer, when he's cross shopping it against whichever AMD chip is in that price range.
And the buyer can rest assured that when he's tackling those intense home computing tasks like tabbed browsing and turbo-tax, system responses will be nearly instantaneous.
Ironic (Score:4, Funny)
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The Intel chip, on the other hand, has Enhanced Speedstep enabled. You can tell this by the fact that they mention the prcessor's voltage is from 1.2v to 1.35v. With Speedstep, the processor at idle goes to 2.8 GHz at 1.2v. AMD's Cool 'n Quiet is even more drastic, dropping the processor speed to 1 GHz at 1.1v.
The fa
Also reviewed at The Tech Report (Score:3, Informative)
ExtremeTech, Tom's, Anand reviews (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,194086 5 ,00.asp [extremetech.com]
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/03/22/pentium_ext reme_edition_965/ [tomshardware.com]
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx? i=2725 [anandtech.com]
"965?" (Score:1, Offtopic)
"FX-60" (Score:2)
Seriously, I know you're just trying to be funny, but both processor companies are known for giving their processors ridiculous arbitrary names.
The Extreme Edition specs don't compare to... (Score:1)
The "Breen Edition" is perfect for those who like super cooling of their computer.
Re:What's really obscene (Score:1)
Questions (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't understand why there aren't any attempts made to move away from silicon & copper/aluminum wiring ?
We have quantum tunneling transistors that work right now !
http://www.google.com/search?q=quantum+tunneling+
http://www.sandia.gov/media/quantran.htm [sandia.gov]
Re:Questions (Score:1)
Good question. It depends on the technology you use, among other things. I'll hazard a guess and say transistors do.
I don't understand why there aren't any attempts made to move away from silicon & copper/aluminum wiring ?
There are. That's the point of R&D. But do you want to front the cash to retool a billion+ dollar mfg plant? Neither does Intel.
We have quantum tunneling transistors that work right now !
See previous answer.
Re:Questions (Score:1, Funny)
Answer: No, you are.
Re:Questions (Score:2)
You anonymous faggot.
Re:Questions (Score:2)
I failed to mention the right one. I meant this one . Not quantum.
Pentium Extreme Edition (Score:5, Funny)
PEE
Re:Pentium Extreme Edition (Score:2)
"Super Hot Incredible Thoroughbred Edition" - The Pentium SHITE
"Pentium Holy Toledo" - Pentium HOT
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*goes to bed*
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Oh lord... (Score:1)
Yet another acronym (Score:1)
"Maximum Extrene 3!" (Score:2)
"Now, from the makers of the Itanic! The Pentium Maximum Extreme III!"
Of course, the real question is the color of the cooling fins. It has to have exotic cooling fins, or it won't sell.
Ricer? (Score:2)
Re:Ricer? (Score:1)
But the price? (Score:2)
I have to assume that EE's are extremely limited in quanity and released for marketing purposes. Ping me if that's untrue.
BBH
When will we see 4 GHz? (Score:2)
Does anyone have any guesses on when we will finally see commercial 4 GHz processors? Wil
Clock rate an imperfect estimation of performance (Score:2)
Not really. Moore was commenting on the number of transistors and performance. Clock rate is a convenient but imperfect estimation of performance. If you use some metric that involves an actual measurement of work performed, say specmark, I'd wage
It's misleading advertising (Score:3, Insightful)
To me, this is indicative of a lot of the market now. Really, you don't need a 700 dollar video card to play any game out on the market. True, with the more expensive card you will get better resolutions on very large or multiple monitors, but most people don't have them. I know people whole have 17 inch monitors who were almost suckered by the hype that you need a high priced card just to play FEAR at all. Ditto, BF2. This really has been driven by the hardware companies and hardware sites that like to torture test hardware. Not in and of itself a bad thing, but to the uninitiated, it can be misleading. Especially when coupled with hardware companies that implicitly promote this untruth.
Unfortunately, the extreme edition etc, is symbolic of companies that feel a loss because their profit slipped from the previous year, in spite of the fact they are still making good money. No doubt some of these execs still sleep at night dreaming of another Y2K scam to rake in the dollars from sales of hardware most people don't need, or in the end, even want.
That is what I believe is at the root of this kind of marketing. And I don't see it going away, I see it becoming more rife.
3.7 GHz is nice (Score:2)
Scientists get confirmation of the Big Bang theory (Score:2, Funny)
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sometimes even y.
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Re:Question (Score:2)
Neither, US Dollars flushed.
FWIW the above is not a slam against Intel. I prefer my Intel or AMD CPUs in the mid to upper US$200s, my video cards in the mid to upper US$100s,