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Windows Vista 5342 Screenshots

CowboyNeal posted more than 8 years ago | from the early-looks dept.

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Lhopar writes "Microsoft released a new build of Windows Vista to beta testers. Flexbeta has got some screenshots. Included in this build is an extensive collection of drivers and the exclusive sidebar. Glass is also a feature that we all have come to respect and love, along with the 3D flip. The official version number is 6.0 Version 5342.winmain_idx04.060321-1730. Internet Explorer 7.0 is build Version 7.0.5342.2. Nice features include a new 'Paint' and needed redesigned network center."

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478 comments

Wow (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993732)

5342 is a lot of screenshots.

5342 is a lot of screenshots. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993782)

I'm not sure which idea is worse, taking the time to make 5342 screenshots of Vista or posting a link to them on slashdot.

Re:Wow (2, Funny)

nukey.nl (908656) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993827)

Oh, that's why it's taking so long to load.

Re:Wow (3, Funny)

Shawn is an Asshole (845769) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993850)

Well, there has to be at least one for each bug...

Re:Wow (3, Funny)

SmashMacFly (946801) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993910)

that would be a huge improvement for MS to have so few bugs in a release !

sucketh it!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993896)

Gay porn is also a lot of screen shots. Nice FP.

This post is intended to waste karma.

GOOD DAY, SIR!

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993906)

Unfortunately, they're all blue with white text.

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14994017)

Unfortunately, they're all blue with white text.
No, some are red with white text.

Re:Wow (2, Funny)

Urusai (865560) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993928)

Do they have screenies of Solitaire and Minesweeper? Those are the only two applications most people care about. Oh yeah, and some management types want Office running in the background, I suppose.

/.ed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993929)

Yeah, no wonder the site is no longer responding...

Remote Exploits? Poor user security model? (2, Funny)

Xeth (614132) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993734)

Sweet! New version of Paint!

Re:Remote Exploits? Poor user security model? (2, Informative)

user24 (854467) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993740)

especially given that Paint.NET [wsu.edu] already exists (and was sponsored by MS).

so, I ask again, what's *new*?

Re:Remote Exploits? Poor user security model? (2, Funny)

user24 (854467) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993765)

oh hey, cancel that, they've introduced a great new feature to MSIE: tabbed browsing, now what this mean is that.. hey wait a sec..

more screenshots at http://www.x64bit.net/site/board/index.php?showtop ic=2201 [x64bit.net]

Re:Remote Exploits? Poor user security model? (2, Insightful)

LordSnooty (853791) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993815)

IE: I notice that they nicked the mini search-box in top right from Opera/Firefox too - really, why do they bother? Where's the innovation?

Re:Remote Exploits? Poor user security model? (0, Troll)

NoMoreNicksLeft (516230) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993911)

Tabbed browsing? How about, in no particular order:

SVG
CSS2
Non-bullshit DOM
XHTML
No more ActiveX
A decent JVM

Re:Remote Exploits? Poor user security model? (1)

jZnat (793348) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993960)

SVG: IE still uses (and will continue to use) an SVG plug-in such as Adobe SVG Viewer [adobe.com] (not as standards compliant as it should be, but it has existed longer than the W3C standard).

CSS2, DOM, XHTML: obviously much better in Gecko, KHTML, Opera, etc.

No ActiveX: great security enhancement for non-Trident browsers, eh?

JVM: Sun's J2SE JVM doesn't work with IE? I didn't know that; I thought your OS used the same JVM throughout. Then again, Windows doesn't have the update-alternatives scripts and whatnot either, so that doesn't surprise me.

Re:Remote Exploits? Poor user security model? (1)

user24 (854467) | more than 8 years ago | (#14994022)

(and i might add, is a damn fine entry level image editor)

Re:Remote Exploits? Poor user security model? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993793)

Why, oh why, is it completely impossible for /.-ers to have the control and the decency - JUST FOR ONCE - to NOT trash MS with regard to an MS-related article within the first 5 posts? Yes, you hate M$, we know it by now, get over it already. Djeez...

Re:Remote Exploits? Poor user security model? (1)

KenDodd (961972) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993820)

My friend, your lacklustre rants are not going to change a thing. As you say, "get over it already" :)

Re:Remote Exploits? Poor user security model? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993884)

when they stop being such easy targets? I mean, when they actually release something that doesn't suck. It's not like it's unfair criticism..

Re:Remote Exploits? Poor user security model? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993892)

if they really make such sucky products and make so much money, isn't that genius? Is that why you hate them? Cause you're a luser and no one will buy your luserness? lol. homo.

Re:Remote Exploits? Poor user security model? (2)

daviddennis (10926) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993936)

The genius is all in taking the original opportunity with IBM and running with it, combined with shrewd marketing. I am not saying that this isn't genius, because plenty of people have had similar opportunities and have not capitalized on them as spectacularly as Microsoft.

But sadly it has little to do with the merits of the product, and I think that's where the anger comes from. Slashdot people live with the results of some brilliant marketing decisions that turned out to be just plain awful from a product quality standpoint.

I don't think homosexual should be an insult. The more gay men exist, the more women will be available for the rest of us, and Slashdot users know how hard it is for us to find women even in the best of times(*).

So please don't insult our wonderful homosexual users. Straight male Slashdotters, who are at least 85% of the audience here, will thank you for it.

D

(*) True, there are gay women, but there are far more gay men so homosexuality is still, on balance, favorable to men who prefer the female sex.

Re:Remote Exploits? Poor user security model? (1)

Tim C (15259) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993859)

What an appropriate sig, given your comment.

Re:Remote Exploits? Poor user security model? (5, Funny)

jesterpilot (906386) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993898)

Finally, windows is ready for the desktop.

Microsoft the inovator (4, Insightful)

falcon5768 (629591) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993745)

1. Wait for Apple to do it first 2. Take 4 years to copy what Apple did in the prosses promicing everything + a new shiney toaster then take it away so your left with the old OS + some nice pictures 3. Say everything Apple did (now 6 years ago) will be in the next version and have people still eat it up 4. ????????? 5. Profit

Re:Microsoft the inovator (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993786)

...sucking swollen Jobs cock.

Priceless.

luser.

Re:Microsoft the inovator (2, Interesting)

LordSnooty (853791) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993824)

Why is the parent modded 'troll'? The first thing that strikes me when seeing these Vista screenshots is, "it looks like OS X". Even the default font is the same or very similar.

Re:Microsoft the inovator (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993882)

Hell I don't even own a Mac and that's the first thing I thought. Even the 3D stacking and sending a screen to the foreground is almost a direct ripoff of what I've seen people do in OS X.

Agreed! (1)

jscotta44 (881299) | more than 8 years ago | (#14994021)

I have to agree with the parent's question regarding the modding of the grandparent. I don't particularly care what operating system I use-I just want the best tool for my productivity. So when the grandparent cited what appears to be the truth about Microsoft's "innovation" technique, I read it and thought, "sounds about right." But if they do a better job than Apple has done with the same features, then I'll use Windows instead. Same goes for Linux or any other operating system that comes down the pike.

Re:Microsoft the inovator (0, Troll)

Foofoobar (318279) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993926)

Shouldn't pay off politicians, cheat customers and retailers and spread FUD be somewhere in that formula?

Worth the wait. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993750)

5 years for a new version of paint! Well worth the wait. Screw linux, I want the new MS Paint! Linux will continue to fall behind microsoft, it doesn't even have MS Paint. Hahahaha Silly Linux users, you don't know what your missing.

Re:Worth the wait. (1)

s74ng3r (963541) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993851)

thanks for the advice man. now i wont feel so left out with my pals when they talks about paint. you're a life saver. this will definitely get me more girls.

Here we go again.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993754)

Woohoo... Another one bites the dust again.. Thanks everyone. Now I can't even look at those new screenshots of paint! I was really excited about it and everything...

Apparent lack of progress... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993757)

Moff Sinofsky: Emperor Gates is coming here?
Darth Ballmer: That is correct, Commander. And, he is most displeased with your apparent lack of progress.
Moff Allchin: We shall double our efforts.
Darth Ballmer: I hope so, Commander, for your sake. The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am.

Re:Apparent lack of progress... (1)

NoMoreNicksLeft (516230) | more than 8 years ago | (#14994001)

Good, but you got the name wrong. It's Emperor Bilgatine.

Also starring Richard Stallman as the wookie, no costume necessary. And Linus Torvalker (use the source, Linus!).

Performance rating (5, Interesting)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993763)

In the performance rating screenshot, they give seperate ratings for CPU graphics etc then give a total overall figure.
Something doesn't make sense:

Processor: P4 3.0GHZ 4.3
Memory: 1023mb 5.2
Hard Drive: 179GB free 4.8
Graphics Radeon 9600 4.3
Graphics Mem: 126mb 3.7

Overall Rating: 3

Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect this machine to have a 4?

Or is graphics memory the only meaningful metric?

Re:Performance rating (4, Funny)

Xeth (614132) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993784)

Or is graphics memory the only meaningful metric?
Isn't that the only metric by which Vista is an upgrade, anyway?

Re:Performance rating (1)

lordcat (949055) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993797)

The system is only as good as it's weakest link... ...oh wait... it's running vista...

Re:Performance rating (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993799)

"In the performance rating screenshot, they give seperate ratings for CPU graphics etc then give a total overall figure. Something doesn't make sense:

Processor: P4 3.0GHZ 4.3 Memory: 1023mb 5.2 Hard Drive: 179GB free 4.8 Graphics Radeon 9600 4.3 Graphics Mem: 126mb 3.7

Overall Rating: 3

Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect this machine to have a 4?

Or is graphics memory the only meaningful metric?"

No.. this is not your grade point average.

This is a rating to figure out how well the computer runs. If an old graphics card is holding it back, getting top marks everywhere else won't stop your computer running slowly.

Re:Performance rating (2, Interesting)

gavriel407 (897344) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993856)

Does anyone remember their chemistry classes? There's something called a limiting reagent. If you don't have enough of a certain compound, the whole process is limited by that one agent.

Vista appears to be no different -- if your "limiting reagent" is the rating amount of video RAM, you cannot produce a total 5.2 score. Nor can you take the average, so you're stuck with 3.7. You also don't have enough to meet the 4 threshold, so you're stuck with less than 4... which turns out to be a 3 on the Vista step-scale.

Not quite what they taught you in chemistry class, but since when has school taught you anything applicable to the real world?

Re:Performance rating (2, Funny)

hammock (247755) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993869)

If there are chemical reactions taking place inside your computer case, you should shut it off. Usually smoke, pops, or crackling electrical sounds indicate this condition.

In this example, the limiting reagent is the number of flaky capacitors, or the amount of blue smoke that escapes from the cpu.

Re:Performance rating (1)

Professor_UNIX (867045) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993985)

Vista appears to be no different -- if your "limiting reagent" is the rating amount of video RAM, you cannot produce a total 5.2 score. Nor can you take the average, so you're stuck with 3.7. You also don't have enough to meet the 4 threshold, so you're stuck with less than 4... which turns out to be a 3 on the Vista step-scale.

So why not just skip all the other numbers and just list the performance of the system based on the lowest whole number? Woo, you have a 5 GHZ AMD Ahtlon64 system with 4 gigs of ram and a 1GB NVidia 7800 video card, but you have a 40 gig hard drive. Your overall system score is a 1.

Don't worry... (1)

Hamster Lover (558288) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993930)

It's just the still unfixed floating point bug in the Pentium rearing it's ugly head.

They get that in post.

coral cahced (5, Informative)

^Z (86325) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993764)

http://www.flexbeta.net.nyud.net:8090/main/comment s.php?catid=1&shownews=18760 [nyud.net]

I wonder when slashcode is going to support inserting .nyud.net:8090 to all post links automatically?

Re:coral cahced (2, Insightful)

user24 (854467) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993798)

the firefox slashdot extension does this, with google cache and internet archive.

Re:coral cahced (5, Informative)

evilviper (135110) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993821)

I wonder when slashcode is going to support inserting to all post links automatically?

Never. The Coral Cache (or mirrordot, or whatever else) go down faster than the website itself. The coral-cache has been /.ed now, since you posted a link to it (only in comments, not even the main story).

Now the mirrordot cache, which will be down moments after I click submit:

http://mirrordot.org/stories/451603e72396736d31653 14be64e9a25/index.html [mirrordot.org]

Re:coral cahced (1)

Kijori (897770) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993918)

Ha! Mirrordot wins! ...we need more people to click the link. :D

Re:coral cahced (1)

baadger (764884) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993925)

Coral cache is a global distributed network of over 250 cache servers, I do not think 'it' is likely to go down quicker than the article server itself. Maybe your ISP has issues with the Coral network.

Re:coral cahced (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14994018)

You and the other coral cache support need to move to an island and make sweet love to each other. Coral cache sucks ass for anything other than plain text sites. Add images, files, etc and it won't cache. It ain't the ISP, it's the faulty design.

As you can see coral cache is only caching the page, not the images. So pull your head out of your arse so you can stop talking out of your arse.

Is it really so hard? (1)

Fhqwhgadss (905393) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993955)

So when a poster makes predictions like The Coral Cache (or mirrordot, or whatever else) go down faster than the website itself and Now the mirrordot cache, which will be down moments after I click submit how hard is it really to click on three little links before you go around modding hom insightful? For posterity's sake let's just say that the direct link is down hard, coral cache loads text but barfs on images and mirrordot is chugging away merrily.

Re:coral cahced (1)

Tim C (15259) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993826)

My guess would be never. People have been asking for this sort of thing for years, and while I admit I've never looked at slashcode, conceptually it really isn't a very hard thing to do.

Re:coral cahced (3, Insightful)

christopherfinke (608750) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993852)

I wonder when slashcode is going to support inserting .nyud.net:8090 to all post links automatically?
The Slashdot Firefox extension [mozilla.org] , as mentioned above, does this, with the option to have any of Coral Cache, Google Cache, and MirrorDot links added after each link in a Slashdot story.

It has a few other features, with lots more planned for v 1.2.

M$ had me with "new paint" (2, Funny)

woolio (927141) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993771)

What's that? They released a new Paint?

Now I have no choice but to upgrade...

Paint Web Server (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993772)

The poor webserver already has "painted" the room with his inner guts...

Expect (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993777)

Glass is also a feature that we all have come to respect and love, along with the 3D flip.

I certainly hope you mean "expect"

3D flip? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993785)

Is there a point to the 3d flip or is it just eye candy? Windows newbs do need some version of OS X's minimize effect because they really don't understand that they can maximize by selecting their program from the bottom of their display but I don't think 3d flip will do it.

Re:3D flip? (1)

dioscaido (541037) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993857)

Flip 3d is just eye candy. I personally think it's a bit silly... just there for the 'wow' factor.

But the classic alt-tab also has live previews of the applications, as does hovering the mouse over the window's taskbar area. The thing that is missed in the captures is that as you tab through the apps all windows are showing their current content (i.e. - movies still play in the alt-tab/flip-3d versions of the windows). Definitely eye candy, but the live preview can be useful when you have lots of windows open.

Re:3D flip? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993954)

Or catastrophic if you have porn playing and you don't want someone to see. ...and it looks to me like someone just skinned XP with SyleXP for these screenshots. I can make my XP desktop look like that right now if I want. So what does Vista DO? I need FEATURES. Not pretty shiny things.

Two Minutes Hate (5, Funny)

MrNonchalant (767683) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993803)

I swear these articles are like the Slashdot version of Two Minutes Hate.

Re:Two Minutes Hate (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993984)

No, this topic is more like another opportunity for astroturfng, both post and mod. Neither the Slashdot summary nor the article said a single thing interpretable as critical to the normal human eye, and your completely false post already sits at '4' because it 'defends' Microsoft and slams Slashdot.

Screen Shots slashdotted (1)

icepick72 (834363) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993809)

Ah, I think I'll wait and see the screen shots on my own monitor when I'm running Vista ...

Please mirror (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993814)

only 9 comments listed in this thread, and already the page has been /.ted... can someone who can actually view the page mirror?

New Version of Windows (0, Offtopic)

jesseck (942036) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993816)

I remember when Windows 95 came out... I hated the new user interface. I used 3.1 for a few more years, until 2000 came out. As for Vista, it looks different. I'll use something else for a while.

New Desktop for Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993864)

Try some of the windows shells [shellcity.net] and file explorer replacements [tactile3d.com] . Microsoft has made it easy [slashdot.org] .

Vista Screenshots Slashdotted in less than 5 (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993834)

I'm surprised so many people are even checking this out with all the Windows hate you people feature.

First thoughts (4, Interesting)

DarthChris (960471) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993837)

  • Still uses crappy activation
  • In the third [screen]shot down, the windows stacked at a 3-D angle looks horrible. It might amuse little kids for a while though (clippy all over again)
  • The updated paint doesn't look that different, and anyone with any serious graphics needs isn't going to use it anyway
  • More of those lovely flashy blue setup screens that dumb down the interface (I personally don't like them)
  • The performance rating is an interesting idea; it might be useful for people buying games (especially parents)
Disclaimer: I rushed this post a bit, I'm in a hurry

Re:First thoughts (5, Informative)

amliebsch (724858) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993887)

In the third [screen]shot down, the windows stacked at a 3-D angle looks horrible. It might amuse little kids for a while though (clippy all over again)

What in the world does clippy have to do with this? Suspend judgement on this one until you see it in action. (There are demos at Channel9 if you are really interested.) It's a mode that's activated by a certain hotkey. While you hold the key down, you can use your mouse wheel or keys to flip through the stack of windows. Then when you let go of the hotkey, the one on top of the stack comes to the front. It actually looks pretty handy, like a 3D Alt+Tab.

Re:First thoughts (0, Troll)

PinkX (607183) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993958)

Something like that already exists since at least 3 years ago. It's called 'Expose' and came first with MacOS X 10.3 'Panther'.

Regards,

Re:First thoughts (2, Insightful)

theurge14 (820596) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993983)

Well, it obscures a good 70% of each screenshot. How is that anymore useful than Alt-Tab now? Are they worried about completely ripping off Expose?

Re:First thoughts (3, Interesting)

Coolnat2004 (830862) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993992)

It looks alright, but I still prefer Mac OS X's Exposé.. mainly because you can see the entire window, just scaled down.

Does this feature in Vista show animations / videos when switching through the windows? I find it handy with Exposé since I can monitor several windows at once (for example, progress bars.. or watch a video while monitoring progress in other applications, etc.) With the 3D angle, though, I don't think it will be as handy..

Re:First thoughts (3, Insightful)

Shelled (81123) | more than 8 years ago | (#14994014)

Some of us have been using mutliple virtual desktops for a decade and are perfectly qualified to make a personal assesment based on the screenshots. Better than the taskbar model? Perhaps. Than multiple desktops + pager? No, you go ahead and keep it, along with its horsepower requirements.

Re:First thoughts (1)

jZnat (793348) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993965)

Don't forget:
  • Still looks like a sooped-up KDE+XGL

Windoze! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993845)

OMG I made a windows joke call the press!

A quick word on the widgets (3, Funny)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993848)

I like the screenshot with widgets:
Link. [x64bit.net]

With the timer, I can time almost anything! (Makes you wonder what is it that I can't time, and why do they need such an obvious explanation?)

The icon for both a number puzzle and picture puzzle is the same! (Requiring me to read the text, completely making the icon irrelevant. --yes, yes, beta version, whatever)

But the best thing of all, and the widget that I think SpaceX is most excited about, is the Launcher!
Name your price Microsoft, name your price!

Pics are still up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993863)

here [x64bit.net]

Windows Vista sidebar for Windows XP (5, Informative)

ranathari (960625) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993871)

The Windows Vista sidebar has already been ported to Windows XP. You can find a download link here [tech-recipes.com] along with installation instructions. More widgets and gadgets for the sidebar can be found here [aeroxp.net] .

I tried it and it just doesn't do anything for me that can't already be done in Windows XP without taking up more screen-space.

Fir[st post (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993877)

That *BSD 0wNeD.

Chess! (1)

winphreak (915766) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993888)

It has chess. That's reason enough to risk the prison time for the bittorrent download!

Windows XP look on Vista? (1)

baadger (764884) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993903)

Does anyone know if it's possible to theme Vista to look like XP? (not Windows 2k classic). I haven't seen any (recent) screenshots of Vista looking this way, so I'm wondering if they're including it.

Re:Windows XP look on Vista? (1)

Mancat (831487) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993952)

Visual styles work the same way in Vista. Get an XP-like Visual Style file (.msstyles extension) and there you go.

Re:Windows XP look on Vista? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14993986)

From the install instructions:
1) Copy the "Windows Sidebar" folder to X:\Program Files\ (Where X is the letter of the partition that Vista is installed to)
Obviously this is for older versions of vista lacking the side bar, this won't work on XP (yes, I tried it for the heck of)

mirror (5, Funny)

blwrd (455512) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993924)

The site seems to be slashdotted, so here's the google cache [google.fi] from the site ;)

Gaming Fans Unite! (4, Funny)

maniac/dev/null (170211) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993931)

Solitare Vista is going to be the best-looking card simulation game available on any platform! I can't wait to get my hands on Vista now!

some mirrors here ;) (1)

sl4shd0rk (755837) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993937)

NEW GENTOO SCREENSHOTS (0, Troll)

Mancat (831487) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993962)

Ok... (3, Funny)

360fusion (922660) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993944)

For the number of you people bashing Microsoft, a hell of a lot of you are looking at those screenshots, so if you don't like Vista, please get off the damn site.

They're at it again. (1)

AirRaven (843900) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993945)

Notice the "MSN Search" in the top right box?

Interesting tactic. By making it the default search engine on the most popular web browser on the internet, they finally have a chance to pose a reasonable challenge to Google, rather than remaining a laughing stock.

Re:They're at it again. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14994006)

And that's different than apple linking their music store to itunes how?

kettle black my friend.

Why are we still getting Vista stories? (1)

dookus (891928) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993953)

My machine loads Half-Life 2 faster than Vista. Enough said.

Wow! (1)

speed_of_light (930261) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993973)

Thank god solitaire is still installed.

You don't speak of "all" of us. (0, Troll)

CMiYC (6473) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993982)

Glass is also a feature that we all have come to respect and love,

You sure about that? I do not respect or love Glass.

I never realized (4, Insightful)

presidentbeef (779674) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993995)

Everyone's been saying Vista is just stealing from Mac OS X. I never realized before seeing these screenshots just how true that is (appears to be, anyway). I'm not really a Mac user, but that interface looks a lot like a Mac...

All this time, all that money, and this is the best interface they could come up with?
Well, whatever. Like a lot of people on these threads keep reminding us, we don't have to use it and of course there's no convincing me to switch from Linux to Windows ;)

60% of Vista to be rewritten? (1)

Stalyn (662) | more than 8 years ago | (#14993998)

From x64bit.net [x64bit.net] "We also have information that almost 60% of the code for Vista will be rewritten." Is this true?

Also what language(s) is Vista actually programmed in?

Windows Vista, Tiger Edition... (-1, Flamebait)

theolein (316044) | more than 8 years ago | (#14994002)

Ouch, looking at the pics, I had two impressions:
1. Vista is looking better and better
2. Microsoft again copied a whole bunch of stuff from the Mac

The last point makes me wonder what the fuck is going on at Redmond if they are so incapable of making their own innovations that they have to steal every damn thing that they possibly can. A short list of Bill the wanker's "Innovations"
1. Glass effects - Yes, Bill, OSX had these all of 5 yeras ago
2. Windows Mail - Wow, Bill, you big pussy, are you so mentally stunted that Outlook had to go so that you could copy OSX Mail? Geez...
3. Gadgets - Geez, Bill, were you gettting a fisting session from Ballmer complaining about OSX' Dashboard widgets?
4. area screenshots - wowowowowow, I'm truly impressed. Really. Honestly.

Bill Gates, or Steve Ballmer, or one of your morons reading this: Seeing that you've just delayed your new toys once a-fucking-gain, why don't you just drop the effort and just ask Apple if you can't sell their OS? Even though you fuckers put the word "innovation" in every press release, and every mail to your brainwashed idiots who would actually works for you, the truth is that you wouldn't know actual innovation if it walked up to you, slit your throats and laughed at you while you bled to death, you poor desperate fools.

Looks more like a Linux desktop all the time (4, Interesting)

caseih (160668) | more than 8 years ago | (#14994019)

Funny how the window decorations in these screenshots look a lot like the new default Fedora Core 5 metacity theme, at least in terms of shape and the window operation buttons. Shame on Redhat for copying Windows like that. Oh wait.

Seems to me Windows is looking more and more like the *nix desktops all the time. I guess this means that Linux really is influencing even Microsoft.

Having played with Xgl a bit, I find it cool, but generally speaking translucent windows are not that useful and often make the contents of the windows harder to read. Looks like MS's take on this is to add blurring to the translucency which actually makes the window contents very readable while still maintaining some transparency. Whether this is going to be a good thing when you have a bunch of windows stacked on top of each other I don't know. But definitely the blurring effect plus the translucency is much better than just the translucency that I can get with Xgl. Of course nothing stops one from doing the bluring in Xgl too. Xgl has all of these capabilities right here now. It will be interesting to see how translucency is finally used. For all its eye-candy, OS X does almost no translucency, except on the dock.
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