Yahoo! Launches YouTube Competitor

prostoalex writes "Yahoo! launched Yahoo! Video last night, allowing users to upload, share and tag their videos. For Windows users the player uses the standard Yahoo! Player, while Mac and Linux users get video encoded in Flash. Yahoo! joins a highly competitive field of video services currently led by MSN Video, YouTube and Google Video. The Associated Press reports on the Yahoo! Video launch as well."

MSN Video!?

[Anonymous Coward]

When the hell did that come about?

Honsetly... I've only heard of Google and YouTube so far.

Re:MSN Video!?

[goldaryn]

When the hell did that come about?
(in reference to MSN Video)

I hadn't heard of it either. But according to the article link, it's beating both Google Video and YouTube for audience..

Top video sites in February 2006
Site Audience, 000 YTY Change
MSN Video 9,279 44%
YouTube 9,045 NA
Google Video 6,246 NA
iFILM 4,336 102%
video.search.yahoo.com 3,774 148%

Re:MSN Video!?

[benh57]

They must be defining 'audience' differently than the other sites... i've never gotten an MSN video link or even heard of it.

Re:MSN Video!?

[alcmaeon]

"When the hell did that come about?"

Damn, I thought exactly the same thing when I read the blurb!

Re:MSN Video!?

[schon]

Hmm, I just went there, and it said I need to "install free software".

It didn't work, and all my software is already Free.

Re:MSN Video!?

[assassinator42]

First, it's IE/WiMP10 only. It doesn't allow upload, so it doesn't really belong. I'm guessing almost all of those hits are from people watching video from MSNBC.com. I'd imagine CNN would have more video views than MSNBC though.

download

[joe 155]

I can't see a way to download the videos to you HD, at least not on the one that I tried, I like google video because at least then you can download it and not have to constantly stream from the net; also then you can use mplayer.

Re:download

[Ossifer]

I like google video because at least then you can download it and not have to constantly stream from the net; also then you can use mplayer.

Well, if you have mplayer, you can download any stream using the -dumpstream option, and then play it whenever you like...

Re:download

[joe 155]

I am intrigued by your ideas, sir, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

I was actually unaware of that feature but I'm pretty new to mplayer; I will have to look up all the features it has

Re:download

[assassinator42]

These are flash files streaming .flv video though. Can you use mplayer to download those? The thing about Google is that it lets you download the higher quality AVI or whatever format it is.

Re:download

[Ossifer]

You're correct, however that wasn't my point. My point was that if you could download something directly and later watch it using mplayer, you could also download the streaming version using mplayer.

Re:download

[cmacb]

Shouldn't HAVE to do that though, and in that respect, the new Yahoo service sucks. They started going downhill in the 90's and nothing they have done recently changes that. All of their services come with too many strings attached, or poor performance, or both, and any service you actually pay them for is apt to have the rug pulled out from under it at any time. They need to focus on doing a few things very well instead of trying to compete with everyone on everything. They suffer from the same control

Re:download

[idonthack]

They suffer from the same control-freak syndrome and Microsoft (and Apple to a lesser extent) and the results will be the same.

You mean they'll make billions of dollars, evade government regulation, and ruthlessly crush all competition despite having an inferior product?

Re:download

[jacoplane]

Exactly. I always download the iPod video files from google video. These play beautifully in VLC, no need for the Google video client.

Try Keepvid.com

[Comboman]

I can't see a way to download the videos to you[r] HD

Go to Keepvid.com [keepvid.com] They may not have Yahoo!Video support yet but I'm sure they will soon since they already support downloads for YouTube, GoogleVideo, iFilm, Break, FindVideos, etc. etc.

How to download your favourite video

[Gopal.V]

This seems to be trivial to accomplish (and this is information that livehttpheaders provides easily).

Take movie URL, for example - http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=a2be3e951f3 f 19e690b3500ed2fe19dc.477060 [yahoo.com].

Note down the nodeID (i.e 477060). Use curl to download the playlist path.

bash$ curl "http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/getPlaylistemb.php?n ode_id=477060&tech=wmp&bitrate=754"
pl=http%3A%2F %2Fplaylist.yahoo.com%2Fmakeplaylist.dll%3Fsid%3D2 5469505%26ticket%3D0%26s%3D0%26start%3D0%26en

Re:download

[testerus]

Well, that's the difference: as much as I dislike Google, they just got it right: Google Video offers easy download.
Fortunately for all the other video services there is the UnPlug Firefox Extension [geocities.com].

Just out of curiosity

[Roody Blashes]

Is there ANY market segment where Yahoo! isn't playing second-fiddle to somebody else?

Re:Just out of curiosity

[ID000001]

Yahoo groups and Yahoo games might be 1st.

Google group and MSN group isn't really quite as big as Yahoo group.

As far as Yahoo Games goes, I don't see any other major player trying to compete with them, MSN have... a little small share in this, and google, what do they have? Those home page widget?.

Re:Just out of curiosity

[szembek]

I think EA's Pogo.com does better than Yahoo!

Re:Just out of curiosity

[DurendalMac]

Except that Yahoo's game servers are total crap and often lag like they're connected by a 2400 baud modem.

Re:Just out of curiosity

[lucabrasi999]

Is there ANY market segment where Yahoo! isn't playing second-fiddle to somebody else?

Actually, this make sense. The technology hurdle to launch this 'business' is not that high and, by simply keeping more eyeballs on Yahoo's site (rather than giving them away to YouTube) it guarantees that the ad revenue stream will not be significantly impacted.

Yahoo doesn't have to be first in EVERY maket segment it goes into, it just needs to be good enough to keep a millions of users on Yahoo-related sites.

Re:Just out of curiosity

[neildiamond]

Yahoo Finance is very good. Not perfect, but far more useful than Google's.

Re:Just out of curiosity

[Whiney Mac Fanboy]

Is there ANY market segment where Yahoo! isn't playing second-fiddle to somebody else?

Huge integrated portal?

Not exactly my cup of tea, but lots of people seem to like it....

Re:Just out of curiosity

[athakur999]

Yahoo Mail has the largest number of users. So that's one market in which they're the leader.

Re:Just out of curiosity

[gkhan1]

More than Hotmail? Seriously?

Re:Just out of curiosity

[athakur999]

It probably depends on who and when you ask, but at least this recent article suggests that's true:

http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,18 693989%5E15322%5E%5Enbv%5E15306,00.html [news.com.au]

Re:Just out of curiosity

[gkhan1]

I did not know that, I guess you learn something every day. Would mod you informative, had I not already commented :P

Re:Just out of curiosity

[Dystopian Rebel]

Well, they haven't introduced an "iPod Killer" yet...

Re:Just out of curiosity

[shokk]

Yahoo's offering is definitely second (third?) to YouTube and Google Video. YT and GV offer a consistent interface, where in many cases the Yahoo link to the video can either display the video directly or in some cases takes you to the video's site. Very inconsistent.

Re:Just out of curiosity

[DurendalMac]

I wonder if Yahoo's video servers are going to be as monumentally shitty as their game servers, ie, a small cluster of overclocked 486's running Windows NT.

Flickr

[chocolatetrumpet]

Flickr [flickr.com] is excellent.

Re:Just out of curiosity

[TheCage]

Yahoo Finance (finance.yahoo.com) is also a leader.

Re:Just out of curiosity

[funfail]

del.icio.us, and Flickr (as somebody else said in this thread)

Can they give it a rest?

[ID000001]

Seriously. Yahoo isn't doing this to earn money. They know video online is already crowded to the lid, they are only doing this to over crowd the market so nobody will have a strong hold of the market.

Good business sense, but does nothing for customers, we already have more then enough choices, more only pollute this field in my opinion

Not really...

[Graboid]

I've actually been using their video search for sometime now and really like it. It's much superior to Google's video crap and I really hate surfing through tons of sites I've never heard of to figure out which ones have caught on enough to have decent content.

Yahoo! just gives me what I need without the hassle. And Yahoo! has such a strong user base for things well beyond Video that they'll attract far more content than most of the niche competition sites.

BTW, it does ALOT for Yahoo!'s customers. It's keep

Re:Not really...

[ID000001]

Your point is well taken, but I'm talking about their motivation. Perhaps it was not fair to say they are doing this to overcrowd the market, since everyone is sdoing the same thing. MSN/Google/Yahoo are all trying to get into each other business as much as possible. And I do agree their interface is a lot better then when Google video first came out (Can anyone agree with me? Google video have the worst start of any of their products, by far?) but I disgree that they need to gathers all the customes.

I u

Re:Can they give it a rest?

[paulthomas]

That's not really fair. It doesn't hurt anyone, and I welcome the idea of another video provider. If someone sends me a link to video, I don't really care if it's google or youtube or now yahoo. If you're publishing videos online you're probably hitting all the major players anyway -- you won't have any trouble finding the video you're looking for at any of the providers.

Sure they won't make money directly off of it... but that's not _my_ problem.

Re:Can they give it a rest?

[ID000001]

If all we want is a video clip to download. I fully agree

But the big picture is, eventually, internet will replace tradition TV, do you think a bunch of tiny players in the market can fight the Tradition TV station better, or a few bigger player?

It is debatable, but I have a feeling this will make it worst for us in the long run.

Re:Can they give it a rest?

[geoffspear]

Insightful? What are the moderators smoking today?

If Yahoo! is doing this for a reason other than to make money, it's not good business sense.

On the other hand, creating more competition, whether it's profitable or not, is good for consumers. Allowing another player to get a "strong hold" of the market is certainly not good for consumers.

I don't believe I've seen a less insightful comment on Slashdot in a month, and I suspect the poster is a shill for one of Yahoo!'s competitors. Either that or a head injury patient.

Re:Can they give it a rest?

[ID000001]

I do partly agree with you. Actually.

It is not good business sense that they will find it hard to earn money, but it is good business sense that they will holds onto their customers with more service.

It is not always good for consumer that there are more competition, but personally, I believe video is one of the thing that need a major player to fight the traditional broadcast company. More compeition in this field on the internet is only going to make the switch from TV broadcast to internet TV much

Re:Can they give it a rest?

[geoffspear]

That's like saying having over 100 cable channels would make it impossible for cable to take on the broadcast networks, and that cable would have been more successful if there was just one channel available, but it was run by some really huge company.

People will not abandon traditional media if there's no choice in new media.

And even if you think internet video delivery requires a big force behind it, how could you possibly think that YouTube should be more successful than Yahoo!? Yahoo! is a publically t

Re:Can they give it a rest?

[ID000001]

Not entirely true.

It is more like saying. "Ok, someone need to sign us to get the agreement to broadcast our hugely populor show. Now... should we sign it with (insert your big broadcasting company name here) or should we give it to one of those guys on the internet...?"*

You are right if there are no new media else where, people won't move else where. But you are wrong in assuming that small player have as much power to shows producure comparing to the like of ABC/Fox/CNN etc. If I have a popular show

Think with your head

[Penguinoflight]

Internet businesses usually have big problems with getting enough marketshare to be sucessful (making money). Google ran for a few years without making any money, and there's a lot of other high profile internet companies which are doing the same even now. Vonage is fighting court battles, isps, and general apathy for voip to try to turn a dollar, and they're still losing big. YouTube is also losing money so far. Of course Yahoo makes money from their portal, search engine, email, etc... but they are lo

Re:Think with your head

[geoffspear]

You're right. I take back everything I said.

Yahoo has no chance whatsoever of attracting visitors to their website. Excuse my extreme ignorance of the Internet. I can only take solace in the fact that the people at Alexa.com are as dumb as I am.

Flash 7 or 8?

[orkysoft]

So, do Linux users get the video encoded in a Flash object that requires Flash 8, like many Flash videos seem to require nowadays, but which isn't actually available for Linux? Hooray for proprietary software!

Out of date anyway

[CarpetShark]

Never mind. The whole thing is out of date already anyway. With Linux broadcatching apps like Democracy Player [getdemocracy.com] and KatchTV [digitalunleashed.com] and Penguin TV [sourceforge.net], there's really no need to look at those sites again. Just run an app, and choose a show to watch :)

Re:Flash 7 or 8?

[twowicky]

One of the few sites that I have found that support both flash 7 and 8 thats worth checking out is http://www.veoh.com/ [veoh.com]

Re:Irrelevant

[SolitaryMan]

It is irrelevant. The real question is when this guy [javimoya.com] will start supporting yahoo downloads?

So, what are YouTube really doing?

[Bromskloss]

I mean, on what area should one compete with them?

Re:So, what are YouTube really doing?

[gEvil (beta)]

I mean, on what area should one compete with them?

I'd like to see you try to run up a bandwidth bill of 1 million bucks a month... [forbes.com] : p

YouTube will lead...for now.

[ImaNihilist]

YouTube will continue it's dominance until one of two things happen: a) YouTube actually starts moderating and deleting it's illegal content or b) YouTube starts making money. If they get rid of all their illegal content, half of their userbase is pretty much gone, including me. It's pretty nice to be able to watch episodes of South Park and Aqua Teen Hunger Force, among hundreds of other shows. If they start making money, then production studios and the MPAA are going to want a piece of it and start spitting out law suits and cease and desist orders until the site is FORCED to delete half it's content, run 120% more ads to cover legal fees, and it's subscriber base falls to nothing.

I actually don't want the illegal content

[chocolatetrumpet]

I know I am weird but - I actually don't want the illegal content. I can find commercial programming on television.

The reason I go to youtube is precisely to see user generated "grassroots" content.

No, it's not generally fine art, but it is often funny and interesting. It's what the internet is all about.

Re:I actually don't want the illegal content

[ImaNihilist]

I suppose. But if you remove the illegal content, YouTube loses a lot of it's appeal to a *LOT* of people. In essence, it loses it's "edge" that puts it above Google Video, Atom Films, iFilm, Metacafe, Filecabi.net, etc, etc, to inifnity.

Vids are not even ON Yahoo...

[AnswerIs42]

Loaded up a few vids.. all they do is point to ANOTHER site... what is the point of this service then?

Re:Vids are not even ON Yahoo...

[Red Flayer]

Indexing. Search.

Decreased liability for files not hosted by Yahoo!.

Re:Vids are not even ON Yahoo...

[King_TJ]

Well, that would explain a lot then. If you've ever seen the horrible lack of bandwidth on Yahoo's part for their groups, you'd have to seriously question why they'd even think they could begin to host a bunch of streaming videos.

No more CODECS please.

[Whammy666]

It seems everytime you turn around to view someone's video, there's a requirement for yet another proprietary codec. If Yahoo would allow the videos to be uploaded/downloaded in a standard format (like mpeg4 or quicktime) rather than yet another oddball format (yahoo video? WTF?), then they might have something.

No more oddball codecs for me. No WMP either. M$ can keep their DRM and stick it. And I have banned Flash from my system as well.

Re:No more CODECS please.

[Gulthek]

Without flash, how do you watch Homestar Runner?

Re:No more CODECS please.

[Jugalator]

I've kept myself from banning Flash, because I've noticed that is a video distribution medium quite many start to agree on. Sure, you can ban all sorts of mediums and codecs, but then you won't get much video at all. :-p To get decent coverage, focus just on a few (1-3 or so) that's common.

Re:No more CODECS please.

[interiot]

How is FLV [wikipedia.org] a new or non-established codec? (you missed the train on complaining about that a while ago...) Also, how is it a good thing if a super-low-bitrate video is re-encoded (a second time) into another low-bitrate codec?

Re:No more CODECS please.

[tepples]

How is FLV a new or non-established codec?

Newer FLV files use VP6, which requires Flash Player 8, which isn't available for Linux or any platform other than Microsoft Windows or Mac OS X.

Not new

[objekt]

this is the same as http://video.search.yahoo.com/ [yahoo.com] which I've had bookmarked for months already.

Re:Not new

[sr1nath]

http://video.search.yahoo.com/ [yahoo.com] has been there over an year. But, this is only for searching videos on internet, not for uploading and tagging videos.

The new launch from Yahoo is similar to YouTube where users can upload and share the videos.

Re:Not new

[objekt]

And it looks 100% exactly like http://video.yahoo.com/ [yahoo.com]

too bad it looks awful

[everyplace]

Vimeo [vimeo.com] is really the only video sharing service that doesn't look like it took a page out of myspace's design book, i.e. it doesn't look horrible, like youtube, yahoo pages etc. I mean, come on, Yahoo even looks identical in its colorscheme to myspace. I mean, they have the flickr team behind them now! How can they let something this awful in appearance come out of their shop?

The real winner: Flash

[suv4x4]

Google, CNET, YouTube and now Yahoo: they all use Flash as their video player, as well as thousands of other big news and entertainment sites.

Who would've thought that Flash will become the most popular vehicle for delivering video on the Internet?

All of a sudden, the EU's ruling that media player competition does not stand a chance because of the WMP built into Windows seems overexaggerated (not that it wasn't overexaggerated before..).

Re:The real winner: Flash

[kzinti]

Vimeo has also converted to Flash, from QuickTime.

Re:The real winner: Flash

[Wesley Felter]

There's also Guba, a site that downloads videos from Usenet and converts them to Flash.

In retrospect, it makes sense. Flash is small and easy to install, so it has huge market share. And it loads fast, has a modern codec, and allows the player to be customized, so Web developers like it.

Re:The real winner: Flash

[daverabbitz]

It also only exists on two platforms, and uses a cruddy codec.

Re:The real winner: Flash

[cgreuter]

Who would've thought that Flash will become the most popular vehicle for delivering video on the Internet?

Me?

It was pretty clear the first time I watched a Flash video. Normally, when I watch video on a website, the procedure goes something like this:

1. Click on the link with Opera under Linux.

2. Read the error message.

3. Curse.

4. Try the download the video. Notice that the link is a Javascript call. Curse again.

5. Switch to a Windows system.

6. Go the the websi

Re:The real winner: Flash

[suv4x4]

It was pretty clear the first time I watched a Flash video.

Yes, I kinda meant before video was part of Flash ;)

I'm happy you're happy with Flash. Flash 9 for Linux (with F8 support) is coming pretty soon, can't wait myself.

Hotlinking disaster

[AIX-Hood]

The scary part about Yahoo's video site upon further inspection, is that they're actually hotlinking a lot of those videos to the originating site, instead of being hosted locally by Yahoo. So they're "stealing" that site's bandwidth while not giving them any ad revenue by sending you to their site instead. This issue of hotlinking images is definitely in the grey area of legality, but now imagine it on the scale of Yahoo popularity, and with videos so the amount of bandwidth used skyrockets. It's definitely morally wrong.

Re:Hotlinking disaster

[athakur999]

Did you actually try using the page? The videos that are linked off to other sites actually load up the video in another window from the linked site. They can still show all the ads they want.

The rest are hosted by Yahoo themselves and play in the same window.

Re:Hotlinking disaster

[AIX-Hood]

They bring up the video file directly. The link was: http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=AthqI1IYF9Kv2bVQAYKgNwQ B P88F/SIG=127g325vf/**http%3A//www.xhaven.net/prism aticlabs/Downloads/FamilyGuy-50Cent.wmv [yahoo.com] If you notice, that's linking directly to the wmv file, not an html or other site page. Xhaven.net in this case gets nothing for this except a big bandwidth bill.

Re:Hotlinking disaster

[knn03]

Especially now that it's on /.

Re:Hotlinking disaster

[fruju]

If the site hosting the video provides a MediaRSS http://search.yahoo.com/mrss [yahoo.com] feed of their videos, it's trivial to have the video played in a window/URL of your choosing.

Blip.tv may offer Theora-encoded content

[Chalex]

There's another video site called Blit.tv. The difference? They promise to offer their video encoded with a Free and open codec. [theinquirer.net]

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Re:This ought to be interesting

[Red Flayer]

"Over $1M/month now and climbing. "

So? What's $1000 a month? How much was their last round of funding? Oh, you mean $1MM a month... ouch.

/Sorry, accounting pedant here.

Re:This ought to be interesting

[LunaticTippy]

You don't want to start a slapfight here between people who think M=1,000 and M=1,048,576 do you?

Re:This ought to be interesting

[Red Flayer]

Holy, Shit, the metric system doesn't apply to cash, moron.

THE most important question....

[Cloud K]

Does this one allow porn?

Re:THE most important question....

[twowicky]

This one does: http://www.veoh.com/ [veoh.com]

Gotta register and turn your content filter off to view it, but there's some seriously sweet pr0n in their adult category

Re:THE most important question....

[PhoenixOne]

Yes, yes they do.

Goodbye YouTube.

not the same as YouTube and Google Videos

[insincere boy]

The current Yahoo video site has a major difference:

It searches the entire web for videos, not just community uploaded videos. I just searched for a video and got directed to a semi-porn site for that video.

Youtube and Google are quite different in the sense that
1. Only user uploaded videos are available, its not just a web video search
2. The video plays within the site, using Flash. No such thing on Yahoo, the whole video experience sucks

You can do it!

[Jugalator]

Come on Yahoo, to compete with the others, you need to offer something they don't do.

It is time to unlock the holy grail of video broadcasting.

The unfailing solution.

It is time to allow porn uploads! :-)

At least Google video is platform-indepenent

[Drinking Bleach]

Even though the main bulk of the browser window is eaten awaying by an expected Flash plugin, you still have the option to download a real video. This is the most fustrating thing about YouTube and Yahoo; they _require_ Flash to view the content. I'm not installing Flash for a variety of reasons. I never really understood why some people cling onto Flash as if its the savior, the only thing that it seemed to be good for was annoying people and advertisement.

Re:At least Google video is platform-indepenent

[daverabbitz]

I second this, and also wish sites would degrade gracefully for lack of other tech such as Java, I mean I can't even get Java for sparc/linux (WTF?).

And yes I realise most people use intel machines running windows, and that probably less than .1% of people run linux for sparc, but the whole friggin' point of www and w3c standards is that sites should be viewable regardless of the browser/os/whatever.

Also WTF doesn't youtube etal. allow you to download the videos. many people (not me) don't have access to in

Re:At least Google video is platform-indepenent

[tepples]

Also WTF doesn't youtube etal. allow you to download the videos.

Because the author of each video has granted a license for public performance, not for reproduction and distribution.

Re:At least Google video is platform-indepenent

[nutsy]

Oh, but you can [javimoya.com]! In my experience, it's very easy to follow this form, get one or more URLs, and copy them to wget. No help for Yahoo yet, but I'm sure it's coming eventually.

Re:At least Google video is platform-indepenent

[drsquare]

The problem with Google is that even when you download the video straight, it doesn't tell you how long it is so you don't know when it's going to finish.

And when you download it with Firefox, if you cancel it half way through it deletes the bit you've already downloaded! Pretty frustrating when you've been downloading for two hours.

Poor Branding

[Cartack]

I don't like the idea of using subdomains to host large projects compare video.yahoo.com auctions.yahoo.com....to youtube.com ebay.com. I think yahoo would have alot more success if they made their services have both an internal and external prescense.

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I was hoping with all my heart...

[Ragnarrokk]

...that they'd call it YAHOOTUBE.

They didn't. Bastards.

``Ragnarok

other video sites

[DGMurdockIII]

there are more site than just those there are http://www.stickam.com/ [stickam.com], http://vsocial.com/ [vsocial.com], http://www.gofish.com/ [gofish.com] http://grouper.comhttp//www.blip.tv/ [grouper.comhttp], http://eyespot.com/ [eyespot.com], http://www.bolt.com/ [bolt.com], http://jumpcut.com/ [jumpcut.com], http://ourmedia.org/ [ourmedia.org], http://revver.com/ [revver.com] http://vimeo.com/ [vimeo.com], http://www.videoegg.com/ [videoegg.com], http://clipshack.com/ [clipshack.com], http://www.dailymotion.com/ [dailymotion.com], http://castpost.com/ [castpost.com], http://www.blinkx.com/ [blinkx.com] now what do u say about google video, youtube and the new yahoo one i say there is plent of them ou there for c

No mention of...

[rizzle]

AOL's UnCut Video? It launched a few weeks ago

http://communityvideo.aol.com/Main.do/ [aol.com]

YOUTUBE.COM has been Haxx0rzs!

[bronney]

Youtube is hacked lmfao it says: [youtube logo] ALL YOUR VIDEO ARE BELONG TO US.

Re:YOUTUBE.COM has been Haxx0rzs!

[Joel from Sydney]

It's not hacked at all. The source code of the front page contains the following:

You have reached YouTube, the premier digital video repository on the Internet. We are currently working on the site.

We'll be back soon...

Yahoo! Video: IT SUCKS!

[Bushido Hacks]

Yahoo! still can't seem to get with the program of that of Google Video or YouTube.

Yahoo! is still using old-and-busted technology that is only avaiable for one operating system. GV and YT use Flash as the medium of choice. It can be accessable on Macintosh, Unix, and Linux operating systems. Windows Video may be avaiable, but the codecs are separate, and a real hassle to install if you have Unix or Linux.

Yahoo! fails to deliver video as it does with LaunchCast to the growing number of people who are n