The Game Developer's Guide to Pwning Second Life 39
wjamesau writes "How do you create a game in Second Life that earns you thousands of dollars and scores you development deals with outside publishers? One SL user did just that last year with a casual game called Tringo (sort of multiplayer Tetris with gambling). The game became so popular in Second Life that he sold the rights for a Web version, a GBA port from Crave, and coming up, a TV game show. While there's dozens of other games in Second Life, from FPS to RTS to a mini-MMORPG, none of them have come close to Tringo's success. Kotaku is running an article I've written, based on three years helping Linden Lab organize and run the annual Second Life game developer contest: a how-to guide for creating the next Tringo-big hit."
gambling (Score:4, Insightful)
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Yep. Follow the money... (Score:5, Insightful)
Now, if I were really out to make a buck, I'd come up with some form of multi-level marketing for an object in SecondLife. Take anything with intrinsic value -- say, a hat. Now let anyone who has that hat spawn a new copy of the hat for less money than it takes to buy a hat from you (picking numbers out of thin air, $5 for a hat original and $3 for a hat copy). Then you essentially deputize folks to sell your hat to fashion-conscious folks AND folks desperate to make a virtual buck by hawking hats (LOOK! You only have to sell 3 hats to make your investment back!). Now, taking the idea one step farther, instead of actually selling the hat you should sell the *script* that makes the hat into a money machine. "Hiya, Mr. Content creator. Have I got a business proposition for you -- you take that new school girl uniform* and use my Money Machine script on it, and it will virally populate itself around the world. The script only costs $100 and $.50 a copy. You could make hundreds of dollars!"
* Yeah, somebody sells them. *shudder* There's two "killer apps" in Second Life, and one of them is not gambling.
Re:Yep. Follow the money... (Score:1)
Wait, what do schoolgirl uniforms have to do with furry porn?
Well, it already is in real life (Score:2)
You may have not heard about and [investopedia.com] Futures [investopedia.com] (kind of Derivatives [investopedia.com]) but they can very well used like gambling. It would be interesting to know if these Derivatives are being traded in the Second Life game.
On another more or less relating thing, I tried to run second life on my notebook (3Ghz, ATI-9100 [128MB], 1.5 GB ram) and it was very very slow, anyone knows if it is possible (any tip or some
Might as well write a web app (Score:2)
Re:Might as well write a web app (Score:2)
Er. AJAX is trivially easy, and it's just one tiny technique involving DOM updates and a single ECMA class. If that's your idea of hard, Second Life scripting doesn't scare me at all.
Call us when you've seen something scarier than C++. Mozart/OZ, Erlang, K and raw MSIL come to mind.
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http://secondlife.com/badgeo/wakka.php?wakka=Home
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poor engine for most games.. (Score:5, Insightful)
I think you're better off producing quality elsewhere and shopping it around. A single success doesn't really set any kind of precedent.
Re:poor engine for most games.. (Score:3, Interesting)
Sure, it might run like ass. All the way to your wallet.
I think you're better off producing quality elsewhere and shopping it around
Yeah, the shopping it around part is a
Re:poor engine for most games.. (Score:1)
I can't say I'm not curious, but I am extremely skeptical. SL was created first and foremost to produce p
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firefly (Score:1)
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Dislaimer: this is coming from a person who absolutely loves Firefly
One hit is a fluke, not a formula for success (Score:3, Insightful)
And as others have mentioned, it's not like SL is a model environment for demo game development. I'm sure plenty of others have gotten into the industry by starting with a Free* graphics engine. So, how does this relate to SL anyway? Mmmm Slashvertisement perhaps?
But of course, the real story behind it would have been the development of the game, spreading word of the game, and pitching one's self to developers to get hired. How about a writeup of that? That seems the be the overlooked, but relevant part of this story that at least I'd like to hear.
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Those who can do, those who can't write useless articles that once in a while get green-lit on /. where half the comments posted to it are more insightful and poignant than the original article.
I actually have a guide on how to make a huge amount of money in Second Life. It cost $19.95.
second life is still making the news... (Score:1)
I check this game section every once in a while to see who here is playing it (and is therefore responsible for the related posts), and none of the slashdotters are playing it, im not playing it, none of my friends are playing it... zonk! explain!
Re:second life is still making the news... (Score:3, Interesting)
Oh, and I totally agree that SL ne
Another guide to make millions off Second Life (Score:5, Interesting)
Is there anything more pointless than making a guide on how to make lightning strike twice?
Re:Another guide to make millions off Second Life (Score:1)
Not if you're the first person to do so [wikipedia.org].
Get rich? not a chance. (Score:4, Interesting)
"The final word for pwning game development should go to Eckhart Dillon, lead creator of Tech War, winner of this year's SL Game Developer Contest, which took in the L$ equivalent of nearly $2500 during the two months of its run."
The ones making the real cash are buying games, running contests with them, that sort of thing:
"One resident named Games Prototype, for example, created and runs a franchise of hugely popular SL casinos and by his estimate, clears $2,000-3,000 monthly for about ten hours of weekly work."
Note that even if the guy in the second example actually created his own games, that isn't what is making him the money. It's using the games to run a casino. It's similar to an article I saw a while ago about the "prostitutes" on SL - the ones giving the virtual sex make a fairly small amount, but the people who run the brothels are really raking in the cash.
I've made a few games in SL.... it's frustrating (Score:5, Informative)
The scripting language is interesting, fun, and somewhat well thought out. If you could use it to write someting that ran locally, you might be able to have something semi decent. but... After it goes thru the server system and out over the net intermixed with all that SL data using Linden Lab's lazy update protocol, you feel lucky to get things to work at all, ending up with everything a primitive compromise.
It's irritatingly flaky. The API calls are at best 80% reliable, terribly documented, and they come and go at the whim of Linden Labs with no standards a developer can rely on. Maybe object messages will work, maybe not. Maybe when a player shows up, all the parts will rez, maybe not. Maybe physics will work, usually not.
In 3 years, there's been no significant improvement in the graphics. It looks very dated, especially the avatars and what passes for a skybox. Everyone walks around like stiff zombies. It's still buggy as hell, especially if you have less than a 1MB line and a $4K PC. Get more than 10 people in the same place and it slows to a crawl for everyone. Can't complain though... Second Life zealots will tell you it's your fault because you don't have everything turned down to minimum settings.
The idea has potential, and Linden Lab has indeed solved some of the harder problems of implementing the Metaverse, but at this point, they just can't scale any further without it collapsing under it's own weight. Time to take what's been learned, pull the plug on Second Life, and build something with modern graphics, open standards, and distributed servers that anyone can run.
Although it's neat to move from sim to sim in the mainland , most "serious" players opt for a seperate island. That costs >$1200 startup and $200 a month.
I'd much rather be able to host my own sim, with a coordinated method of sharing comm channels, directory service, and inventory items with other hosts and players.
Again, so much potential, but at the rate they are going, it'll be dead in less than 2 years, a blip in computer history. I think the real goal of the game, and it *is* a game, is to pump up the number of user accounts, and squeeze in a couple thousand more users "in-world" to make it look attractive for some company to buy them up so Philip "Linden" and the verture guys can cash out.
Real life (Score:3, Funny)
mini-MMORPG? (Score:1)