What Would You Recommend for IT Training? 79
ITPhantom wonders: "It is that time again and my supervisor has been coming around and asking what training and conferences I would like to attend in the upcoming year. I have recently been put in charge of the management and security of a few dozen machines in our department, and our internal network (simple as it may be). While most of the machines that I am responsible for are running Windows, there are a few Linux machines in the mix. I am fairly proficient with Windows, but have not had any real experience managing Linux machines, though I have been a casual user for about a year. With all of the options available, from online training to extensive boot camps and seminars, what would you recommend for training in the areas above?"
one recommendation (Score:2, Informative)
Re:one recommendation (Score:5, Insightful)
Give each programmer a $500 per annum budget they can spend on tech books, let them keep the books, bring em home, read in their own time.
Total cost: $500 each for any employee who actually bothers.
What most managers do:
Spend $3000 per head on a 3 day seminar, send several employee costing the company 3 days work from each person.
Total cost: $3500+ per employee whether they bother paying attention or not.
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Re:one recommendation (Score:1)
We were fighting so much over reference books like "Regular Expressions", I just bought my own.
Re:one recommendation (Score:1)
Once my immediate manager saw some of the scripts I was starting to make he wanted to borrow one of my books. I told him "no way". If
Re:one recommendation (Score:1)
Another thing that formal courses are good for is that you are out of the office and away from your day-to-day work, so can concentrate on the s
Re:sans.... 10 days in florida + disney ;) (Score:2, Insightful)
I didn't get the disneyworld trip though.
Duh (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Duh (Score:4, Funny)
CCNA (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm now using my new knowledge of the UDP protocol to do some cool broadcasting stuff in some of my client-server apps.
Some books first?? (Score:4, Insightful)
There's so much good stuff available for free on the internet that i can't even point out where exactly you can start, that depends on what you want to learn first
But, anyhow, if budget is not a problem in your job, as it is in my, you could still benefit from some by-yourself studying before you face some formal training.
Re:Some books first?? (Score:3, Informative)
That all depends on which mode of learning suits you best. Generally, this is broken down into (1) learning by touch/doing, (2) learning visually i.e. reading, or (3) aural learning w
Re:Some books first?? (Score:2)
Re:Some books first?? (Score:2)
I was originally drawn towards programming because I find it easy to picture th
Re:Some books first?? (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Some books first?? (Score:1)
BlackHat (Score:1)
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Re:BlackHat (Score:2)
--I'd *really* like to see somebody hack a 386 laptop running DOS and Wordstar, though...
how about... (Score:4, Funny)
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uhm... (Score:3, Insightful)
however, two of the things most overlooked about classes are a) the ability of the instructor (hopefully) to help you build the picture that makes you understand something. books have a hard time doing that. b) let you see a different perspective from your classmates. the people around you have different way of looking at things that is very similar to why programmers sometimes find it helpfull to have other people look at their code for the sneaky bug.
eric
Re:uhm... (Score:1)
CEH Training (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:CEH Training (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:CEH Training (Score:1)
Black Hat = Unethical Hacker
White Hat = Ethical Hacker
So they basically teach you how to hack and probably have a few topics on when it is OK to use your mad skillz.
o'reilly (Score:3, Informative)
Re:o'reilly (Score:2)
Good Training (Score:2, Informative)
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Re:Good Training (Score:1)
For you... (Score:3, Informative)
For IT in general, a class in interpersonal skills would be beneficial.
Hindi and Chinese... (Score:1, Funny)
Might as well get ready for when your bosses bosses boss goes to a lunchin and decides to outsource whole departments overseas.
Re:Hindi and Chinese... (Score:3, Funny)
Cover your bases... (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm assuming you're more then capable in the desktop support arena. The above recommendations are things I've had to relearn over the past 10 years in managing a system that started with 50 and has since grown to 5500 nodes. The more adaptable you build your fledgling network today, the more you'll thank me down the line.
The best training is practice (Score:2)
Also check to see if there are any consultants in your area (like me, well probably not in your area) who offer training services custom-tailored to what you need.
Curiosity (Score:2)
Oh, and O'Reily's Safari Bookshelf is pretty nice.
No (Score:1)
The IT industry is one of perpetual flux. Burn it into your mind that you must be continually getting certified. Build it into your budget. Build it into your schedule.
Take a few "extracurricular" courses as well (First Aid, CPR, Toastmasters, etc).
Graduate Courses (Score:2)
I've attended training courses and spent a lot of money at Barnes & Noble, but I'm learning the most now that I'm in grad school. Graduate courses don't just give you specific information, or have you follow a manual to complete some hands-on training. (Or at least they shouldn't.) They should force you to research different topics in depth and, ide
It depends on how you learn (Score:1)
What is your Goal? (Score:2, Insightful)
Where does your boss think you should be in 5, 10, 15 years?
If these align, work on a plan that has you trained appropriately with what is useful today, next year, 5 years from now. A wide range of jobs makes your life more fun and you more valuable, IMHO. I've been an IT professional for 20 years now and never would have guessed I'd be an independent enterprise technical architect from where I started as job title "Programmer A" writing Space Shuttle GN&C co
Might look at what redhat has to offer (Score:1)
LISA System Administration Conference (Score:1)
[usenix.org]http://www.usenix.org/events/lisa06/ [usenix.org]
Disclaimer: I teach tutorials at USENIX conferences, but I've paid to attend many over the years
Re:LISA System Administration Conference (Score:2, Informative)
While I've never personally paid to attend a USENIX conference, my employer has paid for me to attend several.
Book: "How To Write IT Specifications in Hindi" (Score:1)
Sex! (Score:2)
easy (Score:1)
Join LOPSA (Score:1)
Re:Join LOPSA (Score:2)
Just make it a point at the meetings to not sit between the lady vampire and the guy with the painting; sometimes they get along quite well and sometimes not...
decide how (Score:1)
Linux training. (Score:1)
You can always learn Linux like I did. Go get a pound of pot, lots of beer, coffee, make sure Google.com is accessable, and (wish I had this when I started learning)
A class in Abnormal Psych (Score:2)
How many people that call a help desk are experiencing acute anxiety?
How many VIPs at your company will think they are your exclusive supervisor?
How many bitter department secretaries will try to monopolize your time to show how important they are?
How many times will you hear: "don't help that person, I'm mad at them"?
How many times will you see a user make the same mistake over and over and over?
A class in abnormal psyche helps you spot the kooks early on. Every job h
Re:A class in Abnormal Psych (Score:1)
I Guess I'm Thinking Differently (Score:1)
Software Engineers solve problems. HTML is pretty light weight for a software problem. Web services are console apps for the Internet. So what is a problem that a software engineer can solve
Lots of good ideas for training but... (Score:2)
1) E3
2) Mrs. Nude world
3) The Adult Video Awards
These, of course, are just a few suggestions.
CBT Nuggets NAS (Score:2)
There is some seriously good information in those videos.
Best way to learn. (Score:2)
Break these systems in as many ways as possible.
Fix these systems.
This will teach you A LOT. Not so much on the theory, but you'll gain a lot of real world practical understanding and be able to put the theory you get from various conferences, books, and classes into a proper context.
Linux Expo (Score:1)