Full Body Dance Dance Revolution 125
tasty_beanburger writes "NewScientistTech has a story about a full body version of Dance Dance Revolution. It uses vision recognition to award points after assessing a player's ability to correctly mimic silhouetted dance shapes. Check out the video clip of it being demoed at SIGGRAPH 2006."
Translate Sign Language (Score:5, Interesting)
Yes, if this technology exists, and slips out into mainstream, they better put it into more practical uses than DDD.
Re:Translate Sign Language (Score:5, Insightful)
TLF
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The point is, fat kids aren't fat because video games don't meet their daily allotment of exercise. Personal responsability and la
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I'm just curious. What color is the sky in your world?
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Believe me I see better then most, my faith is strong and I do appreciate my role in the grander scheme of things. I'm kind and charitable to those in need, I'm active in my community with local outreach programs. I see people who have nothing busting their asses to make something of their lives. But since when did b
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You are aware that fetal alcohol syndrome is a suite of birth defects, right? Alcoholism isn't a birth defect, it's a medical condition caused by the frequent and excessive consumption of alcohol. Consumption. Which means some complete asshole gave this friend of yours a bottle of booze. It's not like he came out of his mother's womb with one hand clutching a
Re:Translate Sign Language (Score:1)
Where in the country are you? If you're in my neck of the woods I'll demostrate by taking you to the mission I volunteer at and then the rich suburbs where the kids are too lazy and spoiled to peddle their own bikes - damn motorized scooters!
Re:Translate Sign Language (Score:2)
LOL.
In related news, I'm a million times humbler than thou.
I know you're busy wallowing in righteous self-pity, but if you ever have time, you should read Nietzsche's critique of Christianity. I don't agree with all the points that he makes, but there's something to it. He raged against what he saw as the glorification of sickness over health,
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Re:Translate Sign Language (Score:2, Interesting)
First, please show me the research that indicates that this is the case. I'd love to see it. I don't believe it exists, but I would love to see it. Frankly, it flies in the face of I think is the generally accepted position which is that although there is a genetic tendency for obesity (which also influences metabolism), the behavior trait (and that is what it is, although personality trait might be equally true) of laziness is a heavy mix of both environme
Re:Translate Sign Language (Score:2)
The above post is an excellent one, and should be modded to +5 ASAP. DarkSarin, do you have any more books to recommend on behavior?
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Keep in mind if you read Vroom's 1964 book: it is dated in certain ways, and the times come out rather strong when you are reading his comments about work-roles for men and women. I suspect his ideas have changed considerably since that time.
Unfortunately there isn't a really good comprehensive text on motivation. Knowing your authors helps a lot though. I'll post a list of good works on motivation and behavi
DDR (Score:3, Insightful)
A video game that actually involves burning calories is probably just what the US needs, and more of it.
Not just the US, either: there are plenty of places with obesity issues. But for a good aerobic workout, you don't need DDD: DDR and its ilk will do nicely. Heck, I've lost about 10kg by exercising with StepMania in recent months, and most of the time I don't even use the dance-pad, let alone some fancy-schmancy video-based detector.
Re:DDR (Score:1)
How do you excercise with StepMania if you don't do it on the pad?
Jump around while whacking the cursor keys?
Re:DDR (Score:3, Interesting)
The game has an "autoplay" mode (press F8 during game-play, if memory serves, or select it in the main options menu). In this mode, the game does not keep score, but merely regards each step as perfectly accurate. I just jump around on the floor in front of it (and wear holes in the carpet -- good thing it was already torn by my old cheap office chair).
My computer is usually set up this way for exercise, because all I want to do is get my heart-rate up to a certain level, not keep score. In any case, faili
Re:DDR (Score:1)
I've recently gotten into DDR at home (offical and StepManiaX) thanks to my lovely modded Xbox and can't see myself ever miming (or whatever you'd call it with your feet!) along without getting the mat out.
I guess I'm just in the honeymoon stage - I'm going for the passes and generally getting shit hot for when I next go to the arcades and get laughed at my teenage girls.
Incidentally have you seen this http://www.mininova.org/tor/321635/ [mininova.org] collection of songs? I can't see myself ever getting
Re:DDR (Score:2, Interesting)
I've been through the honeymoon stage, and then reached the level of skill where a soft mat no longer responded quickly enough to my feet. Then, like an apprentice Jedi building his own lightsaber (pretentious, much?) I built my own hard dance platform. After much abuse, I eventually broke it. Likewise the MKII platform.
During one of these "no working platform" moments, I decided to try it sans platform entirely. I found it was actually better to work without the platform when exercising: when you're exerc
Re:DDR (Score:2)
Re:Translate Sign Language (Score:3, Funny)
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You are not looking at expert level players. You are looking at players on light mode.
I get completely wiped out in less than 20 minutes on my typical 7-8 foot difficulty songs.
Anything above 6 feet even on normal mode will make you reconsider the "low intensity" comment. 5 feet you can still do standing still without much effort. At 6 feet and with jumps and multi-cross sequences of "little" steps, you are done for the day in 20 minutes.
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Translating sign language would be cool too.
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I suspect it will just be some horrible bastardisation of saturday night fever rather than anything practically useful. But why should entertainment be practically useful? It's exercise, it probably hones reactions and coordination, and it can also be competitive to whatever level people want to take it, which seems to increase how much it will hook young'uns (males, usually). Better than the (indoor) equivalents from my youth, certainly.
FatPhil
And here's some research about that! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Translate Sign Language (Score:2)
Just think, in the future, two DDR pads will be set up facing each other, and you'll have to mimic what the person of the opposite gender dancing in front of you, is doing. It could lead to a revolution in geek reproductivity.
This is only worth it... (Score:1, Funny)
Re:This is only worth it... (Score:2)
I support the decision to first use this platform for gaming. They make money from it and the general public will take interest. They can produce more specialized gear in the future.
training videos (Score:2)
Oh Great!! (Score:5, Funny)
Perhaps this can help my sex life? I'll just slip in a porn DVD grab the wife and then get points for following the action on screen.
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walking by the arcade...
what in the hell is that kid doing... is he... oh my he is
wow 5 year olds are pretty advanced
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Not as Fun as Dance Dance Immolation (DDI) (Score:1)
http://www.interpretivearson.com/ddi/ [interpretivearson.com]
Very Afraid. But Hopeful. (Score:5, Funny)
Well. With DDR my family looked like a bunch of kids with Tourette's Syndrome [wikipedia.org]. Now they'll appear violently epileptic.
I can only hope they're unaware when this is released.
The technical angle on this software is what redeemed CmdrTaco from the "oh-this-will-only-make-me-look-more-dumb dept." Pretty interesting stuff, especially since it seems this stuff matures more rapidly once it goes into a game. (i.e. Flight Sims).
Re:Very Afraid. But Hopeful. (Score:2)
So they looked like this guy [tourettesguy.com]?
Sounds a lot like "Supermodel Shootout" (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.indiegamejam.com/ [indiegamejam.com] seems to be down at the moment, but there's an article at http://mag.awn.com/index.php?ltype=Special+Featur
In order to respond quickly... (Score:4, Funny)
But I still need to pay rent! (Score:1, Interesting)
I'm currently pouting at the lack of specs. Is this going to be on my PS2 (*sigh*, PS3) or do I have to shell out for a new standalone application? Granted I didn't download the video...
Seems like a lot of work for something that isn't that novel. I sense that a DDR with additional EyeToy functionality would be just as good, and I already *have* most everything for that.
Re:But I still need to pay rent! (Score:5, Insightful)
Indeed. Both DDR Extreme [ddrfreak.com] (and its sequel, DDR Extreme 2) have EyeToy support and include a "Hands and Feet" mode. You're supposed to supplement the foot movement with left and right hand movement. It doesn't give the whole-body positioning that the article discusses, which is a *good* thing.
Konami's simplified method of adding upper-body "dancing" gives you more flexibility to come up with a "routine" of your own. The article's suggestion of a system that requires you to put your body in a precise position is pretty goofy by comparison. It would be like a version of DDR that requires you to use a particular foot to hit a pad -- sacrificing gameplay flexibility for an "enhanced workout".
Plus, the manual for DDR Extreme 2 (which I just bought for my teenage daughters and my long-past-teenage self) suggests only that the background be contrasting, without a lot of motion. No requirement that it be white and illuminated. I guess Konami figured out how to do motion detection in the real world after all.
You know, there's a good argument here that university research types ought to spend more time in the freshman dorms before they announce their "new" discoveries, especially if they're based on a popular video game.
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You can't guarantee that with the Eyetoy unless Sony decides to pack it in (glad to see you commented on that). If it's like the first Eyetoy you get it when buying games. Game developers do not make games for consoles based on hardware you might have. Some companies will make games for existing niches (D
Re:But I still need to pay rent! (Score:2)
And Extreme 2.... well I won't get into it but basically it's all the songs that should have been in Extreme in the
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No fat kids (Score:5, Interesting)
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The very best players can do all the songs (maybe not to AAA) without bar humping. You'll find it's a very popular flamefest on DDR sites where both sides of the issue are argued fiercely. =) Personally I prefer the challenge of no bar, but to each their own.
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ParaParaParadise (Score:4, Informative)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ParaParaParadise [wikipedia.org]
The Coolest Tech Always Starts Useless (Score:1)
This seems too niche to have a chance here. Hopefully they can make money elsewhere in the world.
Re:The Coolest Tech Always Starts Useless (Score:2)
The trick, of course, is to market it in such a way as to highlight its possible fitness applications without turning off the younger audience.
Re:The Coolest Tech Always Starts Useless (Score:3, Insightful)
You know, I think that's exactly the same thing they said about DDR.
Well, they must be right (Score:1, Troll)
Steve
Re:Well, they must be right (Score:2)
But just in case: http://www.google.com/search?q=DDR [google.com]
Yes, but no definition (Score:2)
Yes, many of the previous posts that met my threshold prior to mine did mention DDR, but only "DDR", and did not say what it was. I had never heard of DDR before.
Steve
Re:The Coolest Tech Always Starts Useless (Score:2)
You know, I think that's exactly the same thing they said about DDR.
I think this is kinda where Wii is heading. I'd call it the stealth excerise game. Think about "forcing" your gamers to physically move around alot or from various positions/wide body movements. You could "trick" your gamers into doing alot more body movements rather than them just sitting there. How long until some one combines a DDR pad and the Wii controll
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The cheap mats get destroyed rather quickly. The arcade platform feels very different. So if you start adding your investment, you'll find that a full-scale solution can easily put you over $200 without the console. Figure about $50 for the game, and about $100 for a decent pad/platform. But you may want two pads, hence over $200.
Playing at arcade is more enjoyable and easier.
Add to that the fact that you'll need quite a bit of space to jump around.
Three Ds? (Score:2)
Until I read the article, I thought it was going to be Dance Dance Devolution.
Either way, it's safe to say:
we're through being cool.
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Re:Silhouetted dance shapes? (Score:2)
Real life DDR coming soon to dance clubs (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Real life DDR coming soon to dance clubs (Score:2)
very true, learn to dance and the girls go nuts. you could probably just memorize DDR steps and do them at a club and still pick up 3 or 4. I don't know what it is with girls and dancing but they love it.
Talk about Old News (Score:3, Informative)
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Impressive! (Score:2, Funny)
List of ParaPara Videos (Score:1)
I only viewed the first one (100) but the chick wasn't very good at playing the game. Every time she "touched" the blocks it said poor...at least she looked good doing it...ok it didn't look good at all...
Current Nintendo research in this area (Score:2, Troll)
One difference is that we track the motion in 3-D space, using spatial extraction coupled with a stochastic Kalman-filter technique, rather than
Re:Current Nintendo research in this area (Score:2)
So, I'm curious: Are we really to believe the head of new technology at Nintendo trolls
Re:Current Nintendo research in this area (Score:3, Interesting)
Grandma's Boy... (Score:2)
Strike a pose! (Score:4, Informative)
Cheers,
IT
Re:Strike a pose! (Score:1)
There's no need to feel down!
Re:Strike a pose! (Score:1)
It seemed like whole the activity was just too goofy for most people. Then again, people probably thought that about DDR at first too.
Yes, but... (Score:1)
Now where have I seen this before? (Score:2, Funny)
Yay! (Score:1)
This is how a harem girl dances... (Score:1)
Are we going to be seeing (Score:1)
I'd love seeing everyone do the little kicks!
More cool stuff from SIGGRAPH 2006... (Score:2)
I think on of the images there is the guts of the full-body-musical-touch-sensor-thingie. It appears to allow you to touch various parts of your body to activate those specific synths. Bang bang bang...
Imagine the Wii version of DDR with this (Score:1)
Oh, yeah, for the standard geek in high school, this is going to be a lifesaver!
In The Groove (Score:1)
Not quite the same, but it involves more than your feet. Especially in Double mode - Bend Your Mind Expert Double has four freeze arrows you have to hold down simultaneously, and then you need to hit two more arrows. It does a number on your knees though.
I Hate DDR (Score:2)
DDR, you're a real bastard!
Compare revolution to (Score:1)
Dance Class Revolution (Score:1)
Blame the player, not the game. (Score:1)
In fac
What about... dancing? (Score:2)
Re:What about... dancing? (Score:2)
Try to dance to a typical salsa beat and then try something from a mainstream club. You'll find dancing to salsa an easier mo
Re:Why More Vanity????? (Score:1)