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Too Much Hyper, Not Enough Fighting

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the is-that-all-you've-got dept.

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Jason Booth takes a look at the recently released Street Fighter II: Hyper Fighting, on Xbox Live. A highly anticipated title, Mr. Booth lays out why Capcom has fallen short of the high expectations gamers had for the title. From the article: "Now, where the game really falls down is online. It's bad enough playing SF2 on the 360 controller, but with lag it's nearly impossible. The funny thing is, the lag really isn't that bad from a technical standpoint. Most matches feel as if I'm getting a reasonable ping time and response. But SF2 turbo is a fast game, and at that speed, you just can't play, and can't compensate enough for the lag. If you press an attack button while leaving the ground on a jump, it'll probably go off as its landing."

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59 comments

Street Fighter II? (1)

Shut the fuck up! (572058) | more than 7 years ago | (#15842482)

Aren't we on something like Street Fighter XLIV?

street fighter 2 many (3, Insightful)

paradigmdream (915171) | more than 7 years ago | (#15842485)

why do they keep making street fighter 2 games? shouldn't the number go up once in a while?

Re:street fighter 2 many (2, Funny)

Not Anonymous Coward (993086) | more than 7 years ago | (#15842492)

I think they went to III once, but everyone hated the change to the Roman Numerals.

Re:street fighter 2 many (2, Insightful)

rabbot (740825) | more than 7 years ago | (#15842514)

I'm sure it's because this isn't a new game. just a port of sf 2 hyper fighting. No need to give it a new name.

Likewise, Super Mario Bros. 1 too many? (2, Informative)

tepples (727027) | more than 7 years ago | (#15842556)

why do they keep making street fighter 2 games?

For the same reason Nintendo re-releases the original Super Mario Bros. on the Super NES (as Super Mario All-Stars), on the Game Boy Color (Super Mario Bros. Deluxe) and on the forthcoming Wii Virtual Console. This product from Capcom is a port of Street Fighter II Turbo, as seen on the Super NES and Sega Genesis (the latter under the name Street Fighter II Special Championship Edition).

Re:Likewise, Super Mario Bros. 1 too many? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15842655)

hmm... in the arcade, Champion, Turbo, and Hyper Fighting were different games.

Turbo == Hyper Fighting (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 7 years ago | (#15843025)

in the arcade, Champion, Turbo, and Hyper Fighting were different games.

The title screen of the copy of Street Fighter II Turbo for Super NES that I rented said "Hyper Fighting" where the original said "The World Warrior". Wikipedia backs me up [wikipedia.org] . Perhaps you're thinking of the fact that the word Turbo was left out of the arcade game's title in some markets.

Re:Turbo == Hyper Fighting (2, Interesting)

milkman_matt (593465) | more than 7 years ago | (#15843417)

The title screen of the copy of Street Fighter II Turbo for Super NES that I rented said "Hyper Fighting" where the original said "The World Warrior". Wikipedia backs me up. Perhaps you're thinking of the fact that the word Turbo was left out of the arcade game's title in some markets.

That's because SFII:Turbo -was- Hyper Fighting:

KLOV Link [klov.com]

SFII (the original, where only one person could use one character) was "The World Warrior"
then came Champion Edition where 2 people could use the same person, then came SFII Turbo: Hyper Fighting which was I guess just a slightly enhanced, sped up version of SFII CE, after that were all of the pirate versions, rainbow edition and such, then the alphas and SFIII, but yeah, this is just a port of the (IMO) most well rounded version of the game.

I actually bought the PCB off of ebay then went to an arcade game auction, turns out someone was selling the exact cabinet/game that I already had, so I've got my own SFII Hyper Fighting cabinet @home, for less than the cost of any of my consoles. IMO the only way to play SFII is on an arcade cabinet, console controlers just don't do the fighting games (SFII, MK, Etc) justice (except maybe Tekken, that one's pretty good for use with a console controller)

Ya but it's worse than you thought (4, Informative)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 7 years ago | (#15842911)

There was Street Fighter, and then Street Fighter 2. Since then, well it's never really incremented. After SF2 was SF2: Champion Edition, and SF2: Hyper Fighting. Then then moved to the CPS-2 hardware with Super Street Fighter 2: The New Challengers, then SSF2 Turbo. After that was NOT SF3, but rather Street Fighter Alpha. Street Fighter 3 finally did come in 1997, after 3 Alpha games.

I think he's just genreally giving Capcom shit for their odd naming scheme.

Re:Ya but it's worse than you thought (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15845538)

Its not odd. They increment it for each new tournament in the story line. Alpha is a prequel that takes place between tournaments.

Re:street fighter 2 many (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15842626)

Hyper fighting was/is just another edition of SF2. It was in the arcades a longass time ago. If I remember correctly, it went like this:

SF2 World Warrior
SF2 Championship Edition
SF2 Hyper Fighting
Super SF2
Super SF2 Turbo

There was a Street Fighter 3 that was, in my opinion, quite nice. The animation was extremely impressive, and the game felt prety solid overall.

Re:street fighter 2 many (1)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 7 years ago | (#15842736)

You forgot the original Street Fighter.

It was
Street Fighter
Street Fighter II
Street Fighter II Champion Edition
Street Fighter II Turbo
Super Street Fighter II
Super Street Fighter II Turbo
Street Fighter Alpha
Street Fighter Alpha 2
Street Fighter Alpha 3

I'm going to stop there because the Street Fighter III series never held my interest.

LK

Re:street fighter 2 many (1)

LBt1st (709520) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844354)

Guess I'll tack on Three.. Street Fighter Street Fighter II Street Fighter II Champion Edition Street Fighter II Turbo Super Street Fighter II Super Street Fighter II Turbo Street Fighter Alpha Street Fighter Alpha 2 Street Fighter Alpha 3 Street Fighter 3 New Generation Street Fighter 3 Double Impact Street Fighter 3 Third Strike

Re:street fighter 2 many (1)

Mr. Samuel (950418) | more than 7 years ago | (#15842844)

why do they keep making street fighter 2 games? shouldn't the number go up once in a while?

I suppose they continue to make them because we continue to buy them. There has been Street Fighter 3 and the Alpha series.

Re:street fighter 2 many (1)

milkman_matt (593465) | more than 7 years ago | (#15843429)

why do they keep making street fighter 2 games? shouldn't the number go up once in a while?

Well they also -could- have gone with SFIII, but that game was terrible, and SFII: The New Warriors didn't really add anything... IMO SFII: Hyper Fighting was probably the most balanced version of the game. That's probably why they're using II instead of any of the newer versions of the game... that and it's probably a much smaller game, so it'd be more suitable for their online arcade or whatever...

Re:street fighter 2 many (4, Informative)

milkman_matt (593465) | more than 7 years ago | (#15843445)

Oh, and also a list of the games that they did have: (from KLOV)

You're right, though, they did pretty much try to milk the II for all it was worth, which it looks like that was the best play, because everything -after- SFII just plain sucked.

Legacy

      1. Street Fighter
      2. Street Fighter II - The World Warrior
      3. Street Fighter II' - Champion Edition
      4. Street Fighter II' Turbo* - Hyper Fighting
      5. Super Street Fighter II - The New Challengers
      6. Super Street Fighter II Turbo
      7. Street Fighter: The Movie
      8. Street Fighter Alpha: Warriors' Dreams
      9. Street Fighter EX
    10. Street Fighter EX Plus
    11. Street Fighter Alpha 2
    12. Street Fighter EX 2
    13. Street Fighter III: New Generation
    14. Street Fighter III 2nd Impact - Giant Attack
    15. Street Fighter Alpha 3
    16. Street Fighter III 3rd Strike - Fight For The Future

* Turbo added by me, looks like KLOV was missing that part, but I have the machine, and it does in fact call it SFII Turbo: Hyper Fighting.

Street Fighter 2 EX PLUS HYPER ALPHA FIGHTING!1! (2, Funny)

Not Anonymous Coward (993086) | more than 7 years ago | (#15843806)

You might want to nix the Movie and the EX games if you're strictly counting games by Capcom. AFAIK, the two games were done outside of Capcom (the EX Series having been done by ARIKA). Also, you're missing Street Fighter EX III, since you're counting the EX Series (though, I'm not sure if that one saw an Arcade release, which I don't think it did).

And might as well add X-Men Vs. Street Fighter and Street Fighter 2097 for NES if you want to be really complete about it (that and tons of Alpha compilations and tweaks for the consoles).

Re:Street Fighter 2 EX PLUS HYPER ALPHA FIGHTING!1 (1)

milkman_matt (593465) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844202)

Well, it was from the KLOV listing, so it's not always going to be 100% accurate by everybody's standards, but I believe SFII (movie) would count since it's the same characters, with terrible Pit Fighter graphics (and van damme) As for EXIII, if it didn't make it into the arcade, that'd be why it wouldn't be listed, they seem to only list arcade games... As for the "Vs." games, those are just a bastardized version... I think the list is pretty thorough, aside maybe from the EXIII you mentioned.

Re:Street Fighter 2 EX PLUS HYPER ALPHA FIGHTING!1 (1)

Not Anonymous Coward (993086) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844489)

Considering it was Co-Developed [wikipedia.org] by Capcom and Incredible Technologies, I think that abortive game does belong.

And EX3 doesn't since it was never released for the Arcade, though at this point, I think it's splitting hairs.

Re:street fighter 2 many (1)

cgenman (325138) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845760)

It's really too bad that Capcom has the habit of releasing games before they're done. Street Fighter Alpha was derided as being sloppy and unbalanced, with unfinished art requirements and not enough balancing time. But Street Fighter Alpha 2 was completely solid, and Alpha 3 was one of the best in the series. Likewise SFIII was an unfinished mess the first revision, but III 2 was actually good and III 3 was probably the most technical fighter released in years.

Re:street fighter 2 many (1)

jez9999 (618189) | more than 7 years ago | (#15846475)

because everything -after- SFII just plain sucked.

Heh, each to their own. I think the Street Fighter Alpha games are awesome, and I still play (by emulation) SFA3 several times a day. It's bloody addictive. :-)

What I'm more interested in is why they're releasing a game that was also released on the ***SNES*** for the Xbox. I didn't think they did that kind of thing. It will be Donkey Kong next.

Re:street fighter 2 many (1)

GuyverDH (232921) | more than 7 years ago | (#15846577)

Silly rabbit, that's not Streetfighter 2, that's Streetfigher 11 =D

Re:street fighter 2 many (1)

jedi0utkast (940047) | more than 7 years ago | (#15847480)

Street fighter II, was so wildly popular that the sequel became a brand, that is why capcom did not wanted to drop the II and move to three, but instead just keept adding ": [what ever]" in order to differenciate titles, that is why people keep buying all those, because thinking of Street Fighter II, bring all of those memories, and people while getting something new, still want that original experience somehow.

And People Are Paying 50 Bucks A Year For This? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15842506)

Geez, how is Microsoft going to survive when Nintendo and Sony aren't forcing players to pay 50 bucks a years for the privilege of playing laggy games online.

Microsoft's online service adds around 200+ dollars to the price of the 360. They need to drop that silly charge. Today.

There in lies the problem (4, Informative)

kid_oliva (899189) | more than 7 years ago | (#15842543)

Although it has gotten better, lag is still an issue with Xbox Live. More than likely what they are doing with this game is the same thing they do with Halo2 on live. They set one of the people as host and the only thing the server does is game match. This can cause all sorts of issues, especially in Halo2 where the engine has some network code issues. You have the annoying button lapse to hits not registring at all. Usually, however the host has the advantage. They move a little quicker, hit a little harder, and can take more damage. Centralizing everything is more expensive, but will negate host issues and you could also run programs like punk buster to keep people from cheating. That's my $0.02.

Re:There in lies the problem (2, Insightful)

Quarem (143878) | more than 7 years ago | (#15842762)

Actually a peer-to-peer model is better than a centralized network for fighting games where frames need to be synced between two client boxes. If they added a centralized host information would just have to travel and be processed at another node, which would actually increase the latency of the packets traveling between the two Xbox 360's.

A centralized server does make a lot of sense when the game has more than two players though, since all the server processing can be down by the server box which leaves the client machines free to process more game data, and typically centralized server's can be put on low-latency high-bandwidth connections which are still lacking in consumer broadband. Somebody has to pay for the centralized servers and the game-traffic though. Maybe they can use in-game advertising for that, but I would rather ISPs just continue to upgrade their networks.

Re:There in lies the problem (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845146)

Problem is fighting games require absolute frame accuracy or they desync. Scenario: Player 1 and 2 press attack at the same time. The attack would hit at the same frame. Due to lag each player sees his opponent start with the attack one frame later so they hit and their opponent doesn't. How do you correct that? You'd have to declare one player's game data as correct to solve that.

SFIIHF Is Good (4, Interesting)

robbway (200983) | more than 7 years ago | (#15842576)

I played SFIIHF on the xbox360 last night. I was on the east coast vs. someone on the west coast. No noticeable lag. However, an earlier bout of unknown distance had a couple of choppy animations. It was a light night after 1am EDT, though. It's probably busier around 9pm EDT.

The arcade game is perfect. It plays at the same speed as Hyper Fighting. The controls were very responsive when I used the analog stick. You can set the buttons anyway you like. I think negative reviews on the controller are based on personal preference. You may find some characters easier with the D-Pad, and some easier to control with the analog.

Live Arcade has been receiving way too much non-constructive negative feedback. It really seems like a bashing! Just remember, this is an 80s game!

Re:SFIIHF Is Good (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15842631)

Street Fighter II originally came out in 1991, Hyper Fighting in late 1992. They're not 80s games, but your point stands.

Re:SFIIHF Is Good (1)

robbway (200983) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845946)

You're all correct, my memory is crap. I got the price of the SNES game confused with the year of release. Yes, on initial release, it was $80!

Re:SFIIHF Is Good (5, Funny)

poot_rootbeer (188613) | more than 7 years ago | (#15842988)

Just remember, this is an 80s game!

An 80s game... that was first released in 1991?

I'm shouryuken find a better way to describe the game's vintage than that.

Re:SFIIHF Is Good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15852586)

That is one of the best puns I have heard in a very long time. Doubly so on Slashdot. Bravo!

Re:SFIIHF Is Good (1)

eamonman (567383) | more than 7 years ago | (#15843435)

80's game?!? Ken would crouching strong you in the nuts for that one. ;)

The original SF did appear in 87, but Hyper fighting is literally I, II, IICh, editions away.

Re:SFIIHF Is Good (1)

modeless (978411) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844390)

The D-pads on both of my 360 wireless controllers work so badly that one might call them defective. Even navigating menus with them is hard; they frequently don't respond even when pressed all the way to hitting the plastic. I believe there has been a quality control issue with the wireless controller D-pads, and this is the reason for some of the bad reviews. Many people probably didn't notice the D-pad problems before because few games use it much. As soon as I can find a Torx T9 security driver (what's wrong with phillips, anyway?) I'm going to take mine apart and see if I can shim them or sand them down or something.

Nobody here plays fighters worth a damn (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15842605)

so who gives a fuck.
It's niche gaming.

PS: you are all worthless nerds who deserve to be offshored. Now go back to beating off over your 9 CD debian installs.

Let me sum up the review... (4, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 7 years ago | (#15842763)

I'm aging. I'm nostalgic for the game I used to rock at. Why can't they just remake that game exactly the way it was when I was in high school, so I can pretend I'm still cool? They must have sped it up, because surely my aging reflexes haven't gotten any slower. It must be lag that's letting all these other players kick my ass. Wah! Wah!! Wah!!!!

-Eric

Re:Let me sum up the review... (2, Interesting)

Mprx (82435) | more than 7 years ago | (#15842853)

Highest level SF play requires frame accurate timing. 17ms per frame, and humans are easily capable of timing short intervals to this accuracy, (do not confuse timing accuracy with reaction time (which is always at least 100ms), eg. DDR marvelous timing is also single frame, and many people can consistently hit that accuracy). Pings of 17ms over the internet are very rare. What's worse, the lag is inconsistent, so it's impossible to compensate for it accurately.

Re:Let me sum up the review... (1)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 7 years ago | (#15843363)

So then the question becomes... what the hell did he expect? That the 360 version would magically transport both players to the same 1988 arcade when you hit "join game?"

I mean, if the game's doing the best it possibly can to compensate for lag, then without re-wiring the entire Internet, it's a little stupid to hold that against it when you're reviewing it.

Re:Let me sum up the review... (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 7 years ago | (#15843387)

So then the question becomes... what the hell did he expect? That the 360 version would magically transport both players to the same 1988 arcade when you hit "join game?"

Maybe if you played Street Fighter... Street Fighter II is from the nineties.

Re:Let me sum up the review... (1)

Keeper (56691) | more than 7 years ago | (#15843571)

The length of a "frame" in network play depends on the connection latency. The higher the latency, the longer the frame. When deciding the length of a frame you can use connection statistics to determine a reasonable expected worst case situation to compensate for most types of lag you'd see in an online connection.

It isn't perfect mind you, but they did an excellent job all things considered.

Re:Let me sum up the review... (2, Informative)

Mprx (82435) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845154)

In the context of fighting games, "frame" always refers to the usually 60Hz video frames, and has nothing to do with networking.

Re:Let me sum up the review... (2, Interesting)

cgenman (325138) | more than 7 years ago | (#15843734)

I've sparred with Booth in Turbo recently. His reflexes are still pretty darned sharp... he never stopped playing. I'd consider myself a top 1% player, but Booth is probably still one of the top 100 in the country.

We've nitpicked versions of Street Fighter 2 Turbo (or Hyper Fighting, or Turbo Hyper Fighting, or whatever you want to call it) in the past... comparing Turbo Duo / SNES / Genesis revs with the arcade, pads vs sticks, etc. This minutiae tuning is exactly the sort of thing he lives for in the game, and really does determine the difference between a clean control and a sloppy loss when playing with good players.

That having been said, he's basically right. The controller lag is noticeable even on single player... I'd estimate it at a full 10th of a second above the base arcade configuration. The Xbox D-pad is far too diagonal prone for this type of play. The shoulder buttons are even worse than the SNES shoulder buttons. I haven't had a chance to play online yet, but lag on any online game usually precludes tight fighting interfaces, especially as you speed up gameplay.

It's still a good game. And XBL arcade rocks. And he's picking it apart over things a new Street Fighter player might never even notice. But he's basically right.

This WILL NOT EVER work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15842827)

This is not Capcom's fault. Microsoft TCRs require that multiplayer works over Live. For a lot of games this works, and for many games there are tricks to compensate for lag. In many game types the engine can cheat and predict the positions and directions of an enemy. For other game types the lag doesn't matter at all.
Now look at a fighting game: You only have a tiny number of frames to react to a move of an opponent. Even with a perfect ping the signal still only travels with the speed of light, so the other player will never have a chance to react in time.
I have not seen a single fighting game that works well over a network connection, yet, and until we have instantaneous wormhole connections between machines I don't think we will ever see any.

I can't imagine playing this (2, Informative)

bunions (970377) | more than 7 years ago | (#15842863)

You can feel 50ms when you're playing fighting games. If the lag was constant, maybe it'd be different, but it never is.

Not worth the money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15843051)

They said the game was HD, but far from it. The same damn game we've been playing for years. Playing in a small box, and looks like crap when stretched out.

I still prefer SFII Turbo on my original Xbox either with the Capcom Classics or the SNES rom with ZsnexBox 2.2. At least the emulator tries to get HD resolutions for these older games! I'm glad I only got the trial.

Re:Not worth the money (1)

jonwil (467024) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844522)

I prefer the CPS1 original with MAME and a decent arcade stick (like my OzStick)

On my side of the hedge... (1)

entmike (469980) | more than 7 years ago | (#15843128)

I played this game on my lunch break yesterday (Wed, the release day) with absolutely no lag, and I'm a pretty seasoned SF2 player. I would have noticed lag. 5 hours later during dinnertime, I played again for about 2 hours online with absolutely no lag against other people.

I had a great time. My only complaint was joining a custom match because by the time the results hit the screen, the player was usually unavailable (i.e. started a match). I just wanted to chime in and say that the lag is subjective, and on yesterday where I expected lag to be the worst, I experienced none at all.

I consider it worth the investment. It sure is small considering how many quarters I was pumping into it as a teenager at the bowling alley every day...

Re:On my side of the hedge... (1)

Mprx (82435) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845159)

"Seasoned" player? How did you place in tournaments? If you didn't notice lag, then I suspect you never played at this level at all.

Re:On my side of the hedge... (1)

entmike (469980) | more than 7 years ago | (#15847931)

Perhaps seasoned isn't the right word to use, but I've played the game since it was in a cabinet and nearly every version on various home consoles. My point was I've played the game a long time and understand the mechanics, priorities, and timing of the characters and moves. I'm not a frame-counter or a superfreak at the game, but I'd rate myself well above average player. You're right, I'm not all into the top-tier freak-a-thon, but those sort of people should know better in the first place that playing a 2-D fighter ONLINE is not going to deliver.

Playing "at this level" is not the target market, I hate to tell you. There are only so many Daigos out there, but the network connectivity for the remaining 99.9% of the fans should be perfectly acceptable.

If your definition of "seasoned" is reserved for the top-tier minority players only, then I have entirely misused your word and apologize profusely.

To all who say there is no lag (1)

bacterial_pus (863883) | more than 7 years ago | (#15843313)

try out the offline mode and then online. It'll immediately feel sluggish even aginast players with full green bars. I read somewhere that we can avoid connection problems by assigning a static IP Address and doing something to DMOZ. Anyone has info on it?

Re:To all who say there is no lag (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15843520)

Try searching again with the correct spelling of the word: DMZ.

Re:To all who say there is no lag (1)

spyrochaete (707033) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845818)

If you're talking about assigning your static IP to DMZ then don't expect anti-lag miracles. This just means that you are telling your router not to analyze data that is sent to that IP address. This simply forwards the packets and saves a tiny amount of CPU time. Don't expect to see ping time improvements of more than 4ms, and even that is generous.

So what's the verdict? (1)

Psx29 (538840) | more than 7 years ago | (#15843347)

Is it better or worse than using a rom of SFII + kaillera compatible emulator or not?

Memories of SNES, not Arcade (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15843504)

You do have to remember that most people these days that want to play this originally played it on the SNES or one of the compilation packs instead of the arcade. Some of you are just old and cranky farts who hold onto this dead premise of an arcade.

Re:Memories of SNES, not Arcade (0)

jonwil (467024) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844567)

I dont understand why everyone says the SNES version of SFII was so good.
I think the Genesis version was WAY better (for starters, it kept the arcade versions title screen AND the music sounded much more like the arcade)

Re:Memories of SNES, not Arcade (1)

jakoz (696484) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844901)

Yeah... I kind of agree with you about the SNES version.

I remember as a youngster queueing up(!) for the SNES version. I rememeber you also couldn't rent it, because there would be people waiting at the video store for it.

It wasn't bad for a rendition of an arcade game at the time, but it was nowhere near the arcade versions. The sprites were smaller and less detailed, and it generally lacked the all around experience of the arcade.

Not that I didn't play the hell out of it... ;)

Re:Memories of SNES, not Arcade (1)

spyrochaete (707033) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845840)

For one thing, the SNES version was 256 colour and the Genesis one was 16 colour. IIRC SNES had bigger sprites but Genesis was a little quicker and had more animations. Also, the 6-button Genesis controller had that handy 3x3 button configuration while SNES had 2x2 and L and R on the shoulders.

SNES had superior hardware but the two systems were very popular and developers really knew how to squeeze every drop out of them.

Booth and SF2 (3, Funny)

cspariah (958194) | more than 7 years ago | (#15843943)

One of my greatest achievements in arcade gaming is that I managed to take one round -- not a full match, just a round -- from Jason Booth in SF2 Turbo when we were both at Turbine. Of course, he was only using one button -- light kick. When he switched to light punch, I was done.

Ping!? (1)

NekoXP (67564) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845284)

Lag, yes. Delayed reaction to controller input, maybe.

PING TIME AND RESPONSE????

You people seriously need to get off the computers once in a while and stop mixing your words around like you know something.
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