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Firefly Marathon on SciFi, September 18th

kdawson posted more than 8 years ago | from the reaver-madness dept.

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kulakovich writes, "Hot on the heels of Stargate's cancellation, the SciFi Channel is running an entire season of Firefly starting at 8am (Eastern) on September 18th. This news is fresh from yesterday's posting on the Whedonesque blog. Start making space on the PVR!"

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For who? (5, Insightful)

xzvf (924443) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050478)

Doesn't anyone that remotely cares already have the DVD?

Re:For who? (1)

sporkme (983186) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050494)

--or at least havent they watched one of the repeating streams (ess.tv)? I've seen all of the episodes once and some twice, but this is one series that could and should have survived a few seasons. Reruns are one thing, but I do wish someone had stepped up to the plate for this. It was similar to/as good as/better than Stargate.

Re:For who? (2, Funny)

kentrel (526003) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050714)

but I do wish someone had stepped up to the plate for this. It was similar to/as good as/better than Stargate.

LOLROFLMAO!!

Re:For who? (2, Funny)

Uizu (772930) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050725)

I take it you haven't seen FF then...

I'm not sure it deserved a ROFLOMGWTFBBQ (1)

StarKruzr (74642) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050774)

but Stargate and Firefly are pretty much completely different shows.

Why this is extremely IMPORTANT to fans. (5, Insightful)

TekReggard (552826) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050721)

As a foreword, this comment is happily placed near the top so people can see it. It really only has to do with the overall subject.

--

Okay, so why is this so important to fans that own the DVD, have seen it, or can watch video streams or any other option that would mean they don't have to watch it on TV [regardless of ownership // commitment] ...

Advertising.

What is probably one of the biggest parts of financing a TV network is securing advertising that pays well. If you buy the DVD, or watched it before, etc... yes you have made a commitment and helped them out. The problem is the same as with newspapers. They make SO MUCH of their money off advertising they would rather give away the newspapers in some situations to customers who don't want to pay than deal with their issue. Networks work similarly. If the show can't produce good advertising [TV spots in the tens of thousands] and they have one that can [TV spots in the hundreds of thousands] they will do what is financially the smart decision, even if viewers who are watching like the current content.

I could bet a good chunk of money that somewhere up there some people are watching this very carefully to see how it goes. They made a movie that did alright but not outstanding, but... it did good so it shows promise. The DVDs have sold well, but not in bundles... again, good but not outstanding.

What they're probably looking for is what kind of viewership they have during the marathon. This is the kind of event that could tip someone's opinion on their network into saying... hey... lets put together another season. This will get us viewers = dollars.

-TK

Re:Why this is extremely IMPORTANT to fans. (1)

JeremyALogan (622913) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050882)

Ok... I'll admit that when the show first aired and there were stories about it on /. almost daily that I didn't give a shit. I didn't watch it at all and I didn't even give it a chance until it was out on DVD. Eventually I bittorrented the TV shows and I watched, maybe, half of the first one and was hooked. It wasn't long until I owned the boxed set and Serenity. I've also gotten quite a few of my friends "hooked". The question, in my mind, is what do we have to do (in the real world) to convince the networks to sponsor more episodes/seasons AND (maybe more difficult) convince Wheedon to make them? There have been a number of home-grown movements to try and resurrect the series, but they were met, mostly, with yawns. How many people have to watch this marathon and how do we let Neilson know that it's HOT? I'd love to see more!

(Sorry about the rambling)

Re:Why this is extremely IMPORTANT to fans. (1)

LordSnooty (853791) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050925)

What, does this mean I have to take my fingers out my ears and actually watch the ads?

A little off topic, but an important point. (5, Interesting)

ZJVavrek (952066) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050929)

Okay, you made a great point about trying to show the popularity of the show by boosting viewership. Unfortunately, I don't have the SciFi channel, so I can't help out. However, a point continues coming to mind:

How do networks determine viewership? Say a million of us tune in to watch the Marathon, half even stay for the entire thing. What is the process by which the networks discover this fact? I'm trying to figure out how much it matters what show I'm watching if I don't have some sort of Nielson box in my house.

Regardless, I'm very glad that enough of the popularity has gotten noticed so that it can be re-aired. And probably in the correct order, too. (This is /., you think I rtfa? Probably was in there, wasn't it?)

AMD/APPLE GOT BITCHSLAPPED! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050840)

AMD GOT BITCHSLAPPED! I have a hard on! INTEL CORE 2 DUO beats the hell out of every MAC/AMD hardware out there!

Re:For who? (1)

wolverine1999 (126497) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050899)

For Doctor Who?

Seriously, for somebody who might get hooked on the programme...

Re:For who? (1)

mgblst (80109) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050952)

There is nothing like watching a show, and knowing that 1000s of other people are also watching it. Knowing that you aren't the only one, that somebody else somewhere is enjoying the same experience, adds something. You must have felt it. It is like going to the movies, but the movies are the size of the USA, and the food is cheap.

HD (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16051028)

This particular marathon doesn't mean all that much, but starting on Sept. 24, Firefly will be broadcast in high definition on UHD, which is going to be awesome.

http://www.tvweek.com/page.cms?pageId=212 [tvweek.com]

Theres just one.. (2, Insightful)

Lispy (136512) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050481)

"an entire season of Firefly" - Not to say THE entire season! ;-/

Re:Theres just one.. (1)

rtyall (960518) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050576)

"an entire season of Firefly" - Not to say THE entire season! ;-/
I was under the impression it didn't get a full season shown, they stopped filming half way through and even then didn't originally show all the episodes.

Uh no, that would be.... (2, Informative)

myowntrueself (607117) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050609)

That would be 'the entire *half* season'.

It never made a full season.

14 episodes. Ok *slightly* more than half a seasons worth.

"My john thomas is gonna pop off and fly around the room theres so much tasty in here!" -- Jayne.

I imagine that the network executives would have choked on their caesar salads hearing that line... they couldn't cancel fast enough.

Re:Theres just one.. (1)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050640)

"an entire season of Firefly" - Not to say THE entire season! ;-/

Not even that. They're only showing 11 of the 15 episodes.

Re:Theres just one.. (1)

grammar fascist (239789) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050703)

At least they're showing them in order.

Re:Theres just one.. (2, Informative)

halenger (806072) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050653)

This is quite an important comment to note. If you look at the episode list side-by-side with the Wikipedia entry (section with the episode list) ... or if you just know all the episodes and the order etc ... you'll note two things: a) They've decided that, shockingly, order does matter! They have gotten it right there. b) They've decided that the full season shouldn't be aired. While they have gotten the order right they've ditched the last four episodes: 11. "Trash", 12. "The Message", 13. "Heart of Gold", 14. "Objects in Space" (thanks Wikipedia). I really don't see them building this up to a big four episode finale. Unless the 18th is some public holiday in the US, then they're really not giving it a chance. Give it a Saturday. Get new fans. Make more money (DVD sales). Even split it over a Saturday and Sunday. *shrugs* Oh well.

Re:Theres just one.. (2, Informative)

pjtp (533932) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050764)

Not even that... it's 11 out of 14.

They are missing:

Trash
The Message
Heart of Gold
Objects in space

Re:Theres just one.. (2, Informative)

70Bang (805280) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050957)


FireFly Episode List [epguides.com]

Season 1
1. 1- 1 1AGE01 20 Sep 02 The Train Job
2. 1- 2 1AGE02 27 Sep 02 Bushwhacked
3. 1- 3 1AGE05 4 Oct 02 Our Mrs. Reynolds
4. 1- 4 1AGE06 18 Oct 02 Jaynestown
5. 1- 5 1AGE07 25 Oct 02 Out of Gas
6. 1- 6 1AGE03 1 Nov 02 Shindig
7. 1- 7 1AGE04 8 Nov 02 Safe
8. 1- 8 1AGE08 15 Nov 02 Ariel
9. 1- 9 1AGE09 6 Dec 02 War Stories
10. 1-10 1AGE11 13 Dec 02 Objects in Space
11. 1-11 1AGE79 20 Dec 02 Serenity (1)
12. 1-12 1AGE79 20 Dec 02 Serenity (2)
13. 1-13 1AGE10 UNAIRED Heart of Gold
14. 1-14 1AGE12 UNAIRED Trash
15. 1-15 1AGE13 UNAIRED The Message

Feature Movie

F- 1 30 Sep 05 Serenity

IMDB Episode Guide [imdb.com]

Season 1, Episode 1: The Train Job - 20 September 2002
Mal and his crew pull a train robbery.

Season 1, Episode 2: Bushwhacked - 27 September 2002
The crew of Serenity stumble upon the ruins of a transport ship and decide to search the vessel for any salvageable goods, only to discover that the ship is not entirely deserted.

Season 1, Episode 3: Our Mrs. Reynolds - 4 October 2002
A woman claiming to be Mal's wife appears aboard Serenity.

Season 1, Episode 4: Jaynestown - 18 October 2002
The crew pulls a heist in a town where Jayne once robbed the local magistrate, making him a local folk hero, and a target for the local police.

Season 1, Episode 5: Out of Gas - 25 October 2002
When Serenity's life support system fails, Mal orders the crew off the ship - but he stays behind.

Season 1, Episode 6: Shindig - 1 November 2002
After scuffling with one of Inara's clients, Mal is challenged to a duel.

Season 1, Episode 7: Safe - 8 November 2002
While visiting an outlying planet, Simon and River are kidnapped by local villagers in need of a doctor. Meanwhile, the rest of the crew are forced to seek medical help from an unlikely source when one of their own is shot.

Season 1, Episode 8: Ariel - 15 November 2002
When the crew of Serenity arrives on the core world 'Ariel', Simon realises it is the perfect opportunity to sneak River in to an Aliiance medical facility and find out what they did to her. In return for the crew's help in getting them in to the facility, Simon helps them organise an operation to steal valuable medical supplies.

Season 1, Episode 9: War Stories - 6 December 2002
Wash feels threatened by the bond between Mal and Zoe. In order to see for himself how the two work together Wash demands that he goes on a mission with Mal to sell the medical supplies instead of Zoe. Unfortunately, Niska has found out where Serenity is and captures Mal and Wash and tortures them as revenge for their failure in the train robbery mission they took from him.

Season 1, Episode 10: Objects in Space - 13 December 2002
The crew of Serenity consider ways to deal with River as her illness makes her a danger to them. That night, a bounty hunter named Jubal Early, who has been tracking Serenity since it left Ariel, invades the ship in order to try and take River and Simon. Early gets the crew in lock-down and it seems that River is the only one who can stop him.

Season 1, Episode 11: Serenity - 20 December 2002
In the first half of the original pilot episode, the crew of Serenity takes on several passengers and make their way to another planet to try and sell goods they salvaged from a wrecked ship. Their efforts are impeded, though, when Wash and Mal realize that there is an undercover alliance fed on board. In the second half of the original pilot, Simon struggles to save Kaylee, and in turn River and himself while Mal, Zoe, and Jayne attempt to unload the cargo from the salvage to a trigger-happy mayor of a border moon.

Season 1, Episode 12: Heart of Gold - 4 August 2003
Serenity responds to a distress call from Nandi, an old friend of Inara's, who is running a brothel. The unsavoury leader of the town where the brothel is located has gotten one the girls pregnant and is demanding that he be given the baby. Nandi enlists the help of the crew of Serenity to defend the brothel and keep the baby with it's mother.

Season 1, Episode 13: Trash - 21 July 2003
When Mal bumps in to his ex-wife, Saffron, he has to make a difficult decision whether or not to trust her as she offers the crew the chance to make a handsome profit from a mission that will take them to Balerephon, where they'll have to steal a heavily guarded, priceless Earth antique. Meanwhile, Jayne is concerned that Simon and River will discover that he sold them out to the Alliance on Ariel.

Season 1, Episode 14: The Message - 28 July 2003
A pleasant day out at a space station turns sour when Mal and Zoe receive the dead body of an old army buddy through the post. The body came with a message, asking them to take him home to be buried by his parents. However, Mal begins to suspect something might be wrong when the feds start chasing Serenity, demanding return of their property, the body.

Errr (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050482)

*An* entire series? Shirley THE entire series?

Re:Errr (3, Funny)

wizzdude (755000) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050543)

Yes, but don't call me Shirley. I can't believe I just did that.

Re:Errr (1)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050655)

I can't believe it either but you made me giggle like a schoolgirl, so thank you.

An entire season? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050483)

THE entire season you mean? Or am I missing something here? *here's me hoping!* :)

+"new" would be really nice... (1)

Beolach (518512) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050484)

It'd be awful nice if the word "new" was inserted between "entire" and "season"... but this is cool, too.

Re:+"new" would be really nice... (1)

sbrown123 (229895) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050953)

1. Stargate SG-1 is no longer being produced.
2. SciFi channel is looking for replacement.
3. Firefly has a huge following.

Eurika! (not to be confused by the other SciFi program with same name). SciFi decides to create new Firefly seasons to fill SG-1 gap.

A whole season? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050485)

"An entire season..."

That's great, except that, well, there IS only one season.

Re:A whole season? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050713)

"They said it did well on DVD" - Teal'c

Re:A whole season? (1)

luckyguesser (699385) | more than 8 years ago | (#16051080)

I think that's: "It allegedly did very well on DVD"

Start making space on the PVR! (5, Insightful)

shmlco (594907) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050489)

Start making space on the PVR??? How about buying the damn DVDs and in the process convincing the powers that be there's a market for good SciFi?

Re:Start making space on the PVR! (1)

itscolduphere (933449) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050582)

Start making space on the PVR??? How about buying the damn DVDs and in the process convincing the powers that be there's a market for good SciFi?

TPTB at SciFi already know there's a market for good SciFi. Duh. The problem is that Firefly originally aired on Fox, who will do everything can can to sink a decent SciFi show in order to prove their belief that there isn't really a market for good SciFi.

So why buy the DVD? It looks like it's put out by 20th Century Fox, so I imagine there is some chance that the money from the purchase will just go into the coffers of those that cancelled it. That'll teach 'em...that they can crap on SciFi fans and we'll still give them our money, that is.

Re:Start making space on the PVR! (1)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050868)

I'm gunna take a wild guess here and suggest that some of that money will go to Joss Whedon, royalties and such, and seeing as he is prohibited from accepting money directly, that's about the only way you can pay him for making such an interesting series.

"An entire season"? (1)

SpooForBrains (771537) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050490)

so that'll take, ooh, a couple of hours?

I kid, I'm a huge Firefly fan, but the wording of the summary is a /little/ bizarre ...

(suppose I should take this opportunity to pimp the UK Browncoats Forum [cantstopthesignal.co.uk] . Consider it pimped)

Re:"An entire season"? (1)

Barts_706 (992266) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050773)

I don't see either "Heart of Gold" or "Objects in space"... guess it is not 'the entire' series then.

Re:"An entire season"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050871)

"but the wording of the summary is a /little/ bizarre ..."

This is because we seem to have yet another new editor that, in grand Slashdot editorial tradition, doesn't know how to edit.

I'm still trying to figure out how I can get a job where I don't actually have to perform the primary functions for which it exists.

NOT Cancelled! (5, Insightful)

Jaruzel (804522) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050499)

Hot on the heels of Stargate's cancellation


I know technically y'all like saying 'cancelled' but on the basis that SG-1 ran for 10 seasons, I'd hardly call that 'cancelled'. It's more accurate to state that 'it ended it's run' or 'completed' or simply just 'finished'.

When something gets canned after just the first season (Firefly), then THAT'S 'cancelled'. ;)

-Jar.

Re:NOT Cancelled! (4, Funny)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050590)

re: 10 seasons of Stargate SG-1

I'd hardly call that 'cancelled'. It's more accurate to state that 'it ended it's run' or 'completed' or simply just 'finished'.

Or:

1) exhausted itself
2) ran out of steam
3) long since jumped the shark
4) shot it's wad
5) went down hill seasons ago
6) went out with a whimper, not a bang
7) finally traveled through that giant Chaapa-ai in the sky (yeah, I had to look up the spelling)
8) Outgoing wormhole established!
9) one too many episodes of Wormhole Xtreme!
10) and they still haven't gotten it on?! Oh right, he's Air Force, not Marine (See the hill, TAKE the hill, dipshit! Two l's for lloser. The one-l'd O'Neil from the movie woulda bagged Carter long ago...)
11) Ten is a good season to die. (Oh wait, wrong series.)
12) never did meet the Furlings...(for real)
13) finally ran out of ex-Star Trek/Farscape/Andromeda actors to guest star (shoulda hooked up some Bablyon 5 peeps)
14) Hardly any Lexa Doig - good riddance to ya, ya bastards!
15) hey, aren't those Replicators just Lego Mindstorms?
16) sometimes the very old (tv shows) don't do as they're told (and die, already).
17) already re-used every other sci-fi tv show/movie plotline in the history of sci-fi/fantasy.
18) Atlantis will still suck
19) Budge. I don't know why they keep reprinting him...

Re:NOT Cancelled! (4, Funny)

dunkelfalke (91624) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050890)

It passed on! This series is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet its maker! It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed it to the TV channels it'd be pushing up the daisies! Its metabolic processes are now history! It's off the twig! It's kicked the bucket, it's shuffled off its mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!

Re:NOT Cancelled! (0, Troll)

nihaopaul (782885) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050602)

When something gets canned after just the first season (Firefly), then THAT'S 'cancelled'. ;)

It takes a real man to appreciate Firefly and how well it was done, as in most art forms it was not about what was done but what was left up to the imagination.

The sheeple test
  • Voted for bush
  • Have no imagination
  • Use myspace
  • Get caught in viri marketing
  • Prefer reality tv shows
  • Disapprove of Firefly
  • Believe in the war on terror

Careful (1)

StarKruzr (74642) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050783)

I'm as much of a leftie as you are, but there IS a conflict between us and the movement of violent Islamic extremism. Saying "you shouldn't believe in the war on terror" doesn't make any sense to a large majority of folks out there, and it isn't even really what you mean.

Apropos of nothing.

Re:Careful (1)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050841)

Saying "you shouldn't believe in the war on terror" doesn't make any sense to a large majority of folks out there

That's because they're not smart enough to realize you can't wage war against something just because it's a bloody noun.

"War on nations harboring terrorists." - Ok.
"War on terrorists" - Weak, but passable.
"War on terror" - Bullshit politico-speak.

Re:Careful (5, Insightful)

Holmwood (899130) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050891)

That's because they're not smart enough to realize you can't wage war against something just because it's a bloody noun.

Like a war on piracy?
Or a war on slavery?

The Royal Navy conducted both rather successfully (along with other countries). I admit, neither Fox News nor MSNBC nor CNN recently covered them.

Back to the topic, Firefly is unusual, politically. It's hard to think of an SF show that's that libertarian. Most are either Utopian quasi-socialist/progressive (e.g. Star Trek), or have a strong military background coupled with a government ranging from progressive to conservative, but almost never libertarian (BSG, Stargate, B5...). Many feature a rebellion against a totalitarian regime, (Star Wars) but all the rebels typically want to set up a conventional big (though nicer) government of their own ("The New Republic") rather than just fly free ("You can't take the sky from me")

Firefly suggests, almost heretically, that excessively centralized government itself is part of the problem, despite the good intentions of same.

Holmwood.

Re:Careful (2, Interesting)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050984)

Like a war on piracy?
Or a war on slavery?


Precisely. I never said our current crop of asshats invented it, but that doesn't make it not complete BS.

It's hard to think of an SF show that's that libertarian. Most are either Utopian quasi-socialist/progressive (e.g. Star Trek), or have a strong military background coupled with a government ranging from progressive to conservative, but almost never libertarian (BSG, Stargate, B5...). Many feature a rebellion against a totalitarian regime, (Star Wars) but all the rebels typically want to set up a conventional big (though nicer) government of their own ("The New Republic") rather than just fly free ("You can't take the sky from me")

Farscape. Both Firefly and Farscape had at least a semi-totalitarian regime (The Alliance and the Peacekeepers), and the crews in neither are particularly interested in the politics beyond "keep my ass in one peice."

Of course, I loved Farscape even more than Firefly, so that's in no way meant to be a detraction.

Re:NOT Cancelled! (1)

theStorminMormon (883615) | more than 8 years ago | (#16051072)

I think I broke your test:

        * Voted for bush [check]
        * Have no imagination [no check]
        * Use myspace [no check]
        * Get caught in viri marketing [check - I Love Bees]
        * Prefer reality tv shows [uncheck - only project runway!]
        * Disapprove of Firefly [uncheck - wife and I bought the boxed set on our honeymoon, watched Serenity the day it came out, etc.]
        * Believe in the war on terror [check]

Sorry.

-stormin

FINALLY Cancelled! (1)

Blaaguuu (886777) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050720)

I know technically you're saying 'cancelled' but on the basis that Firefly ran for only 1 season, I'd hardly call that 'cancelled'. It's more accurate to state 'it was ended prematurely'.

When something that should have been ended 9 or so years ago is finally laid to rest, then THATS 'canceled'. ;)

Re:FINALLY Cancelled! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050999)

How about the new terminology:

"Cancelled" - never aired an episode
"Terminates short" or words to that effect - aired more than zero episodes but did not reach a natural conclusion
"Completes its journey", or simply "Terminates" - reaches a natural conclusion

So networks can now say:
"FOX is sorry to announce that Firefly will now be terminating at episode 11 due to operational difficulties. FOX would like to apologise for any inconvenience this may cause."
or
"We will shortly be arriving at the end of season 10 of Stargate SG-1 where this show will terminate. Viewers are asked to leave all their baggage behind when we arrive at the end of the series, and are advised to change for Stargate Atlantis. Once again, season 10 of Stargate Atlantis will be our final season."
or
"B7 Enterprises wishes to apologise that the Blake's 7 revival has been cancelled due to shortage of resources. Potential viewers are asked to leave their hopes with us and await further announcements."

Re:FINALLY Cancelled! (1)

theStorminMormon (883615) | more than 8 years ago | (#16051082)

Your terminology is missing a word.

"Yanked" - finally pulled from the air that which never should have been there.

As in, "At long last, Stargate has been yanked."

OK, OK, I'm trolling. But it's still true.

-stormin

Re:NOT Cancelled! (2, Interesting)

theStorminMormon (883615) | more than 8 years ago | (#16051057)

Yeah, and that was definitely 10 seasons too many.

What is it with sci-fi fans that they turn off their sense of critical appreciation when they turn on the sci-fi channel. Stargate, Star Trek: Voyage, Farscape - the reason sci-fi shows don't stand a chance with the mainstream is that sci-fi fans have their standards set so low! You transport your average sci-fi show to any other channel and it's revealed for what it is: Hercules or Xena with lasers and spaceships.

As an actual sci-fi fan, this upsets me. Then truly good shows (like Firefly) don't make it even when they should. Even I didn't really make time to see it when it was originally on Fox because of all the crappy sci-fi shows I'd seen before (clearly that was a mistake on my part).

As long as sci-fi producers can make money by hiring chimpanzees to write stupid shows acted by mannequins the quality will never improve.

-stormin

fresh? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050501)

This news is fresh from yesterday's posting on the Whedonesque blog.

dude

How is this news? (1, Insightful)

utnapistim (931738) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050502)

Not to flame or anything, but I don't get the Sci-Fi Channel (wherever that is).

How exactly is this news?
I mean ... I understand it's cool and everything, but this to me is more local news than slashdot front page.

I'm sure I'm not the only one having no contact whatsoever with Sci-Fi Channel.

Re:How is this news? (2)

sporkme (983186) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050522)

From the channel's website, http://www.scifi.com/help/channelfaq/ [scifi.com]

2. How do I get SCI FI?
The cable "universe" has been estimated at around 74 million homes, and almost all of them get SCI FI. Keep telling your cable provider what you want to see. One way to get word to your cable company is to write them at the address printed on your bill. A useful list of companies can also be found at the TVinsite/Broadcasting & Cable trade-magazine site, along with links where available. We are aware of the few cable affiliates in the country that don't presently carry us and are doing everything we can to get them to do so. International viewers might be able to pick up SCI FI by satellite. SCI FI UK /SCI FI Europe is available to those across the big pond, but although they used to be part of this company, we have no affiliation with them now. Furthermore, SCI FI Europe has its own programming schedule and always has.

Re:How is this news? (1)

CloudsSpaz (824168) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050641)

I agree.

Where are my frontpage Desperate Housewives posts? Now that's info my RSS feed could stand to recieve.

Who is this marathon for? (2, Insightful)

rdwald (831442) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050526)

I'll agree that Firefly is awesome and all, but who hasn't already seen every episode? It seems that by now, everyone is in one of two camps with respect to Firefly:

-- Has seen every episode, many multiple times, and has seen the movie.

-- Has not seen every episode, and doesn't plan to.

Who will watch the SciFi Channel's marathon?

Re:Who is this marathon for? (1)

Grey Ninja (739021) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050567)

I hadn't seen it before a short while ago, as I didn't have the DVD, didn't want to watch the movie without seeing the series, and didn't have cable... Assuming I actually had cable, I might have been interested in this. But I went with the old standby, and copied my roommate's TV-rip.

So.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050529)

Nobody cares!

Shiny (3, Funny)

Timberwolf0122 (872207) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050530)

I really hope this series gets either a spin off or a (preferably) another season or ten.

Come on EVERYBODY NOW!
Take my love
Take my land
Take me where I cannnot stand

I don't care, I'm still free
you cant't take the sky from me

Air Guitar Solo

Take me out into the Black
Tell them I aint commin' back
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me

There's no place I can be
Since I found Serenity
But you can't take the sky from me

daka-daka-daaaawww And Horses!

http://signal.serenityfirefly.com/ [serenityfirefly.com]

Re:Shiny (4, Informative)

inkswamp (233692) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050756)

If you dig the Firefly opening, check the links below out. An indie folk group took the theme and turned it into a full-length song (and they did a pretty damn good job with it) using the theme as their chorus and adding some very well-written verses.

http://www.cyphertext.net/escapekey/Mal_studio.mp3 [cyphertext.net]

Other songs by the same group, here:

http://www.cyphertext.net/escapekey/songs.html [cyphertext.net]

Re:Shiny (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050992)

Shouldn't that be Air Violin Solo ??

Re:Shiny (2, Funny)

Timberwolf0122 (872207) | more than 8 years ago | (#16051035)

Can't play a violin...

Say what? (1)

Blacklotuz (575879) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050541)

They must have spend millions on market research to have determined that we 'nerds' prefer B movies about giant insects and episodes of RAW to SG1 and Firefly, so who do they think will be watching this marathon at 8am on a Monday? Those of us with DVRs, who've probably already recorded it or bought the DVDs?

Shock horror! (2, Funny)

Don_dumb (927108) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050545)

Sci-Fi Television network, decides to show a science fiction program.

Wow, I dont know if I can go on now, my vision of the world has changed so much.
This shouldn't even be an article on a local version of /. let alone the global one.

Firefly?? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050550)

Firefly had more boobs and faces than sci-fi.

(I like boobs and faces but in a porn movie. I watched ST-VOY and ST-ENT and wanted them to f*** each other instead of telling me a story. But they didn't.. so it sucked.)

Also the Spacecowboy thing didn't appeal anyone outside the US.

It got canceled.

Re:Firefly?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050612)

Also the Spacecowboy thing didn't appeal anyone outside the US.

Yeah, some people felt nuclear armageddon would be the preferred fate for humanity over cowboys in space. Yuck.

Re:Firefly?? (1)

apharmdq (219181) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050651)

I dunno, Cowboy Bebop [wikipedia.org] was pretty darn popular outside the US, and it definitely had the whole "Space Cowboy" theme going . . .

Besides, good writing has a universal appeal.

Re:Firefly?? (1)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050859)

Outlaw Star [wikipedia.org] , too. Firefly struck me as a nifty live-action combination of them both.

Re:Firefly?? (1)

luckyguesser (699385) | more than 8 years ago | (#16051104)

heh... i've watched cowboy bebop and firefly all the way through, and i love them both. i've often described both shows to friends like this: "Cowboy Bebop is space cowboys. Firefly is cowboys in space."

Re:Firefly?? (1)

theStorminMormon (883615) | more than 8 years ago | (#16051101)

Yeah, spacecowboy is purely a US phenomena.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy_bebop [wikipedia.org]

"The series has also been broadcast by the anime television network, Animax, across Japan, East Asia, Southeast Asia, South Asia, Latin America, and other regions,"

"A poll in the Japanese magazine Newtype asked its readers to rank the "Top 25 Anime Titles of All Time"; Cowboy Bebop placed at number two on a list that included Mobile Suit Gundam and Neon Genesis Evangelion.[1]"

-stormin

If it's popular on Sci-Fi can we expect more? (3, Interesting)

FalconDelta (1000597) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050559)

I think it's great that Fierfly is going to re-air, but how many times are we going to be able to watch those same initial episodes without wanting so much more? My hope is that they will air the pilot that they failed to air the first time. I know it's probably too much to hope for, but they should really get the cast and crew back together for some more episodes. I don't think it's too far gone yet to do so. I had fun listening to the firefly podcasts people were making. I think the series has a potential similar to starwars if it were developed further. They created the possiblity of a large universe with lots of characters, plot elements, and scenarios. All in all, I can't wait to see what happens.

How many more fans can it get? (1)

saikou (211301) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050611)

Seriously. I'd think that everyone who could possibly have liked the series already seen it.
Those who are fans have bought the DVD sets too.
Is there really a big turf to expand the number of fans?
Or could they have asked for the same "promotional mini-series" 3-4 minutes each, just like what they did with BG?

Lets hope they get the episode order right n/m (1, Insightful)

oSand (880494) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050618)

You can take you lameness filter and shove it...

Order (1, Insightful)

Spad (470073) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050623)

Will they be airing the episodes in the right order?

Re:Order (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050660)

Why the fuck wouldn't they? They're not Fox. And read the article. And DIAF. kthxbye

Re:Order (1)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050663)

Will they be airing the episodes in the right order?

RTFA.

Re:Order (2, Informative)

Cesa (972909) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050975)

From TFA:
This time around, they're starting with "Serenity parts 1 & 2" and ending with "War Stories." The eleven episode marathon starts at 8am (eastern).

How is that news ? (1)

mtjs (918147) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050648)

And it's THE season, not A season. The movie (wich is in time after the serie) is superb. :) Loved the show. But sometimes good things don't get money anymore...

Even smarter (0, Troll)

kamapuaa (555446) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050662)

You can also just download the bittorrent [mininova.org] . Free, no commercials, how can you go wrong?

Racist, south-loving swill (-1, Flamebait)

bw-sf (937673) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050669)

I parted company with Joss Whedon on this one. I can't see "Firefly" as anything other than southern/racist propaganda for the wrong side in the Civil War.

Re:Racist, south-loving swill (1)

Umbral Blot (737704) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050691)

when one of the most competent charachters is black? And married to a white man? And no one has a problem with it?

Re:Racist, south-loving swill (-1, Troll)

bw-sf (937673) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050729)

Have you seen the show, and do you know anything of the Civil War and American history in general? It is entirely obvious to anyone with a brain and relevant knowledge that there is a a pro-slaver, pro-south agenda at work here. If you got duped by his window-dressing then you're exactly the sort that Whedon wanted to reach -- gullible idiot nerds who don't know anything about history and will recycle his hateful slaver propaganda for him ad infinitum. You think you're smart, but you can't reliably identify a single thing that happened before "The Trouble With Tribbles" in the real world. You know nothing of history or politics; you just know Heinlein novels and Simpsons quotes. That makes you a perfect useful idiot for filthy racist propagandists like Whedon. You lap this racist filth up and regurgitate it without ever having the faintest clue what you're doing. "Firefly" is racist, slaver, southern propaganda and if you think otherwise you're deluding yourself. It spells it out in bright, clear letters and the only reason you don't see them is because you don't understand. You know far more about the Romulan Neutral Zone than you do about the real history of the actual world you live in. That makes you a perfect dumb recruit for this kind of thing.

Re:Racist, south-loving swill (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050745)

Have you seen the show, and do you know anything of the Civil War and American history in general?

Well I don't since I don't live in America

You know far more about the Romulan Neutral Zone than you do about the real history of the actual country you live in.

Fixed

In summery I don't have a clue what your on about

Re:Racist, south-loving swill (4, Insightful)

CosmeticLobotamy (155360) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050791)

Have you seen the show

Several times. It was a good show, though I've gotten tired of it.

and do you know anything of the Civil War and American history in general?

I know the highlights.

Firefly has absolutely no racist content. It does use the post-Civil War South as the setting, but it uses it the way it uses spaceships as horses. They're slightly different. The sci-fi version of the Civil War is a libertarian vs. authoritarian fight with the obvious parallels filling in mythology gaps. The genesis of the backdrop is not "I wish the south had won", it's "no one is ever 100% right".

One of the consequences of the Civil War, while obviously doing some fantastic things for human rights, was a reduction in states' rights. And that is the part taken for the show. In the US case, it was a trade worth making. In the show's case, what is exchanged for the elimination of states' rights is never made clear, so it's assumed to be something unworthy.

But again, there is no racism in the show. You need to learn what "sci-fi/fantasy" means, and not judge a guy based on a story that doesn't say what you've decided it probably says. If the setting had been based on the War of 1812 and starred guys with British accents, would you assume they hated America?

Re:Racist, south-loving swill (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050802)

Christ. Are you one of those idiots who think the civil war was about slavery? The civil war was about trampling on the rights of the states, and of strengthening of the federal government. Slavery was just a lame excuse (just like terrorism, war on drugs, etc.) for the powergrabbing, the mere thought of the south being able to continue using slaves had they survived the war is laughable. Get a clue, retard.

You DID forget to take your pills today? (1)

Barts_706 (992266) | more than 8 years ago | (#16051024)

...didn't you?

Just admit it.

Re:Racist, south-loving swill (1)

shmlco (594907) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050708)

I can see a bit of the historical parallel, but.. racist?

Re:Racist, south-loving swill (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050734)

What the fuck?

Time to put down the drugs and come back to the real world.

It has a southern tone, but absolutely no racism. Some elitism based on a class society established between rich (inner planets) and poor (outer planets), but no racism. They speak a combination of Mandarin and English for God's sake. They have two main black characters. About the only thing possibly racist is that the casting didn't have nearly enough Hispanic or Asian actors, and that is purely because in America the studios tend to only put in white Caucasian and black people and think they have diversity :)

You are either trolling or an idiot. If you're the first, I'm sorry I bothered to respond. If you're the second, you're probably one of those dumbasses who want 'manholes' renamed as 'personholes', or refuses to chain harddrives in a master-slave relationship - in which, case you're a lost cause.

Re:Racist, south-loving swill (5, Insightful)

Somatic (888514) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050870)

> I can't see "Firefly" as anything other than southern/racist propaganda for the wrong side in the Civil War.

Yeahbutwhat?

A show where one episode (Shindig) opens with Mal starting a bar fight with some guys... because they were slave traders?

Where one of the crew is a hero to an entire town of indentured servants because of his (ok, misunderstood) actions? (Jaynestown)

A show where most of the episodes revolve around personal freedom? (River's in Objects in Space, the whores in Heart of Gold, the indentured servants in Jaynestown, Saffron's in Our Mrs. Reynolds (till the end, anyway), Simon and River's in Safe and Ariel, Mal's in Out of Gas, and the list goes on with many moments in every show?)

A show where the entire premise is, arguably, about freedom?

The crew of Serenity were on the losing side of the war, and that's where the similarities end. Comparing Firefly/Serenity to the South in the Civil war is one of the more whacked out things I've ever heard.

Maybe it will revive the series? (3, Insightful)

Barts_706 (992266) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050739)

I know it may come as a shock to nerdy Slashdot community, but there are people out there who hasn't seen Firefly yet. It is aimed at them and also the devoted fans who will take any excuse to see the series again.

I hope Firefly might acquire some more interest, enlarge its fanbase, and maybe one day we might see the continuation.

Anyways, this seems not too probable and (judging by "Serenity" movie) it might be better if there was no follow-ups, if they are to screw the ambience of the series.

Still, one can only hope. I really liked it a lot.

Typical for Sci-Fi Channel (1)

Belgand (14099) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050757)

The thing is, this is actually a pretty typical move for the Sci-Fi Channel. Due to a lack of material (largely since they seem to spend most of their budget financing terrible B-movies) they will often fill just about every day of the week with a long 5-8 hour block of one show. Often this seems a bit random and haphazard as they do have a decent library of older shows and they sometimes take the time to revisit a series they haven't aired in a while. Since they bought the rebroadcast rights to Firefly they're simply doing a big block of Firefly episodes.

I think Ben is going bonkers... (1)

spammeister (586331) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050766)

And likewise all the actors from Farscape and Star Trek they seem to like keep hiring and firing them.

Better not screw up Wonder Woman film... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050794)

I hate Whedon, especially his script dialogue. His characters all seem to congeal together; they speak the same style over and over again. For example here's some typical lines:

"blah blah blah! OR blah blah blah..."

"BUT blah blah blah? Oh..."

He better not screw up Wonder Woman...

- sigh

What Sci-Fi Channel??? (1)

dltaylor (7510) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050851)

I switched to the channel listed on my guide, but they has "rassling", or something simliarly weird (definitely fiction, but hardly "sci").

What is the current name of the cable/sat. channel that specializes in "Sci-Fi" (outer space exploration/warfare/..., off-worlders visiting/invading, comedy/action/drama with elements of those)? Nearest I can find is Showtime Beyond, but a lot of that is lame.

BTW, what ever happened to "Space: Above and Beyond"?

Re:What Sci-Fi Channel??? S:AAB (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050861)

Out on DVD! Rejoice! You can watch it whenever you want, advert free! :)

S:AAB inspired LOST? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16050895)

The whole LOST character-centric episodic concept reminded me of an episode of S:AAB - #13:"Who Monitor's The Birds?"

The whole episode is basically centered on the character Cooper Hawkes, showing flashbacks to his early time at the secret InVitro academy.

The way he handles his present situation, and the choices he makes as a result, is reflected closely albeit in a different fashion in his flashbacks.

Although there is little dialogue, when used it's used for great effect - actions speak louder than words.

A truly classic episode, perhaps of the best episodes of any Sci-Fi series ever produced. They don't make'em like that anymore, except maybe LOST... ;)

Shouldn't that be... (1)

FFCecil (623749) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050876)

"...the SciFi Channel is running the entire season of Firefly..."

I understand that the one season they made was so good it could count for more, but unfortunately that's not the case.

*sighs*

Why Did This Even Get Posted? (0, Flamebait)

Captain Smirk (1000749) | more than 8 years ago | (#16050985)

Someone tell me why this is even a Slashdot story? The SciFi channel runs marathons every weekday, running a different series every day. This will not be the first time they've run Firefly. Firefly was a sub-standard show that only managed to attract a handful of nerds and wasn't even able to stay on the air for an entire season, despite being the pet project of the network president. It is no wonder the movie bombed. On the other hand, maybe I'm just bitter that Fox cancelled Dark Angel (a superior show that had already lasted two complete seasons and was drawing decent ratings) to make room for this garbage. By the way, you can also find Dark Angel on the SciFi channel.

Re:Why Did This Even Get Posted? (1)

Timberwolf0122 (872207) | more than 8 years ago | (#16051049)

hmm. I see what your saying and in response I would like to invite you purchase a step ladder (for which your will be reimbursed) in order to facilitate your jumping up of my butt.

Digg? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16051039)

What is this? Slashdot, turning into digg? Slashdot hasn't been plagued by the FireFly zombies has it?

Happy Birthday Me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16051096)

Thanks for remembering my birthday, SciFi Channel. Seriously.

Praise be! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#16051109)

Dear Lord baby infant Jesus, we thank you so much for this bountiful harvest of Firefly episodes on the SciFi channel. I just want to take time to say thank you for Joss Whedon.
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