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Bomb Explodes At PayPal Headquarters

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 7 years ago | from the disgruntled-customers dept.

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Pooua writes to tell us that an explosive device left outside of PayPal headquarters exploded last night. The explosion was powerful enough to knock out one of their plate glass windows but thankfully that was the only casualty of the blast. Perhaps they should have offered employee protection instead?

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Shouldn't be too difficult.. (5, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675171)

Shouldn't be too difficult to find the culprit, just look for someone extremely dissatisfied with their service.

Seriously, anyone who thought they were having a bad time of it with PayPal will find that experience pales compared to the bad time they'll have for planting a bomb.

Re:Shouldn't be too difficult.. (1)

Suzumushi (907838) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675195)

Chargeback my account eh!!?

I imagine... (4, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675495)

Chargeback my account eh!!?

I imagine when some saw a headline "PayPal Bombed" they thought, "They certainly have."

Re:I imagine... (1)

surefooted1 (838360) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675681)

I imagine when some saw a headline "PayPal Bombed" they thought, "They certainly have."

Nope, millions rejoiced...

Re:Shouldn't be too difficult.. (5, Funny)

wizbit (122290) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675197)

Shouldn't be too difficult to find the culprit, just look for someone extremely dissatisfied with their service.

Great, that narrowed down the list by about two. Any other ideas?

Re:Shouldn't be too difficult.. (5, Funny)

Frymaster (171343) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675349)

Great, that narrowed down the list by about two. Any other ideas?

yeah. paypal set the bomb off themselves. now, if anyone complains about paypal's service, they instantly become a suspect in a 'terrorist' act.

great way to guarantee customer satisfaction!

Re:Shouldn't be too difficult.. (2, Interesting)

Amouth (879122) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675695)

that my friend is very evil.. and yet wise at the same time..

Re:Shouldn't be too difficult.. (2, Informative)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675431)

Great, that narrowed down the list by about two. Any other ideas?

While the first part of the post was in jest, that's probably exactly how the investigation will procede. Investigators will likely request PayPal turn over letters from irate customers. I certainly hope most slashdotters maintained their cool enough not to send threats.

The news on KCBS was a bit more detailed than what the link told of. It's a four storey building in downtown San Jose. One plate-glass window was shattered, these windows are designed to withstand minor earthquakes, so it was said the explosion was powerful, not just a hand full of M-80's.

Re:Shouldn't be too difficult.. (1, Redundant)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675229)

Thanks. You narrowed the field down to five hundred million people.

Re:Shouldn't be too difficult.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675245)

On the other hand, it might just be a Halloween prank by some disgruntled high school kids.

Re:Shouldn't be too difficult.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675751)

Disgruntled high schoolers who plant bombs should be shot. All "disgruntled" people who plant bombs should be shot anyway. There's a fine line between terrorism and protest and while we all know how misused the label terrorism is, but I think if actual explosives are involved, it definetly qualifies for a big T label. I don't care if they managed to kill 3'000 or just bombed some glass, the only reward for these "lesser" terrorists is being spared by the Chair or the Injection. Anyway, off to gitmo with these clowns or save money and shoot them at the scene, I don't care. When you plant explosives, you deserve anything you get. And yes, an attempt is sufficient. Thanks for playing.

PARENT = CULPRIT? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675771)

Thanks for the anonymous tip! "Disgruntled" high school kids generally throw eggs at houses and stuff like that.. they don't drive to PayPal HQ and plant a bomb.

Re:Shouldn't be too difficult.. (1)

Jestrzcap (46989) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675247)

My understanding is that this is a significantly large number of people. I imagine they can narrow it down a bit, but I'm betting this still leaves them with hundreds of people on their potential perp list.

Re:Shouldn't be too difficult.. (2, Interesting)

amcdiarmid (856796) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675257)

I see that you have never tried to actually use "Safe Harbor" provisions. Lucky you. Paypal operates as a wire transfer service, and as a bank - with the regulations of neither.

I actually tried to use the "Safe Harbor" once. First they told me that I had to wait for the account to be cleaned out. Then they told me to file with my credit card company. Some "Safe Harbor" I'm actually surprised it did not happen sooner, they really have screwed a lot of people along the way.

Re:Shouldn't be too difficult.. (2, Interesting)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675801)

In the UK they are regulated as a 'electronic money institution' under the Financial Services Authority, so Im happy. These regulations cover Paypals entire European business arm.

Also, I must be one of their rare happy customers - two weeks ago somehow my Paypal account was compromised and several thousand USD was transfered around, with no fuss at all every single one of those transactions have been reversed at no cost to myself. All it took was 20 minutes to a local rate number, no queues, very helpful Irish call handlers.

No one was hurt ... (0, Troll)

DAharon (937864) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675263)

No one was hurt, so whats the big deal? If anything, this is a good thing, because PayPal has to fix their building and the bomber gets satisfaction. Both sides get what they deserve. Next stop, the phone company...

Are you insane????? (1)

technoextreme (885694) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675605)

No one was hurt, so whats the big deal? If anything, this is a good thing, because PayPal has to fix their building and the bomber gets satisfaction. Both sides get what they deserve. Next stop, the phone company...

I for one am probably speaking for 99.9999% of the population when I say are you freaking nuts? No one deserves to have their lives even remotely threatened by some random idiott.

I'm not worthy of that opener...here is my best (4, Insightful)

way2trivial (601132) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675675)

Luckily, Our president is not some "RANDOM" idiot..

Re:Are you insane????? (1)

Com2Kid (142006) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675701)

I could list some people....

*points off towards DC*

Pretty much all the residents in those large government buildings there need to have a bit more fear of the populace.

Re:Shouldn't be too difficult.. (1)

joshetc (955226) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675281)

From what I've seen a large portion of their customers are extremely dissatisfied with their service. I have been with them for ~7 years and have never had an issue yet I'm still somewhat dissatisfied simply based on what they have done to some of my friends. It seems they are always way too buyer friendly until one of your friends get scammed for nothing and left with the bill. Funny how that works I guess..

Wait I can narrow it down even more (1)

technoextreme (885694) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675287)

Shouldn't be too difficult to find the culprit, just look for someone extremely dissatisfied with their service.

Here we go. We should look for someone extremely dissatisfied with there service and recently bought the parts to make a bomb. That should narrow it down.

Re:Wait I can narrow it down even more (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675579)

I'd say look for people who can't tell the difference between "there" (it's over there) and "their" (their spelling sucks).

Perp was at least 70 miles away (0, Troll)

birder (61402) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675465)

Otherwise he would of just drove there and beat people with his axe handle.

Re:Shouldn't be too difficult.. (1)

jimstapleton (999106) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675707)

Shouldn't be too difficult to find the culprit, just look for someone extremely dissatisfied with their service. That narrows it down to... What, 9/10ths of their customers? Anyway, it could also be the result of someone who was phished and misguidedly plamed PP, or someone who thinks PP is just an unpleasant company, even if they had never dealt with them...

Re:Shouldn't be too difficult.. (1)

Ron Bennett (14590) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675767)

One will find lots of them over at http://www.paypalsucks.com/ [paypalsucks.com]

Ron

Obligatory (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675189)

What happen?

Re:Obligatory (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675209)

Apparently someone set up paypal the bomb.

Re:Obligatory (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675321)

Operator: We get negative feedback.

Re:Obligatory (1, Offtopic)

gx5000 (863863) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675339)

Dang nabbit, and moi with no mod points
for great justice !!

Re:Obligatory (4, Funny)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675347)

That'll teach 'em to say "All your money are belong to us".

First !!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675199)

Someone pissed about their ebay option

Surprised it took this long (5, Funny)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675201)

Man, if I had a nickle for every time I wanted to bomb Paypal, I'd have... er... probably a real hassle getting all the money out of my Paypal account.

Re:Surprised it took this long (1)

From A Far Away Land (930780) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675663)

Even my Class Action experience with PayPal was dissatisfying, I only got $13US of a potential $49. But considering I only lost $6US, and some hair, it was fair for me anyway.

They are one company I can understand someone wanting to send them an angry letter-bomb. This ties into the Slashdot story today about how best to deal with your user disputes. PayPal is the example of how NOT to.

Re:Surprised it took this long (1)

cliveholloway (132299) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675805)

Well, I just sent you a nickel through PayPal, and you now owe them 20c [paypal.com] , so that's perfectly understandable ;-)

Bomb making material bought on eBay (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675203)

According to my unreliable sources, bomb making material was bought on eBay.

Great. Now if they start offering actual service.. (5, Funny)

weston (16146) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675215)

... then the terrorists will have already have won.

Halloween parties at PayPal... (5, Funny)

thewiz (24994) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675225)

are a blast!

So I've heard.

Re:Halloween parties at PayPal... (1)

xint (950921) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675795)

baaahahaha!!! ...we all knew this was coming.

I wonder... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675235)

...what was the shipping charge?

Re:I wonder... (1)

Sizzlean (820489) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675301)

It was at least 20 dollars but the package arrived with nothing more than 3 dollars in stamps on it.

Re:I wonder... (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675633)

Many times the reason for this (Like the $1 iPods with $100 Shipping an Handling) is so the seller doesn't get dinged with additional ebay costs they only have to pay an extra percentage of the $1 and not the S&H. Still I don't like it when they do that. It makes sorting by price a pain.

Re:I wonder... (1)

TheCarp (96830) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675779)

Isn't it actually defacto illegal to hide the cost of the product in the shipping and handling costs?

I had heard that but never really looked into it.

-Steve

Customer service (1)

www.sorehands.com (142825) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675241)

This is the result of bad customer service. If you call the companies with bad customer service, they are not allowed to give out the location. Now we know why.

Re:Customer service (1)

rob1980 (941751) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675425)

If you call the companies with bad customer service, they are not allowed to give out the location. Now we know why.

Not because they're afraid you're going to bomb them, but because the majority of the time "customer service" is some call center in Missouri that has support contracts with dozens of clients and they couldn't care less what you think of their client.

Re:Customer service (1)

loraksus (171574) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675753)

You're full of shit, there are no people who actually speak English working in call centers anymore...

Re:Customer service (1)

truthsearch (249536) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675535)

Really? MasterCard never speaks to any customers (they only service banks), yet their headquarters get bomb threats all the time.

Re:Customer service (1)

Brandybuck (704397) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675823)

This is the result of bad customer service.

No, it's the result of someone planting a bomb! Let's try to find the perp and punish him for committing the crime, and not try to blame PayPal (or society, or bad parenting, or video games, or flouride, or transfats, or Bush, or Clinton, or anything else).

If someone at PayPal got raped, would you argue that it was the result of wearing a sexy low-cut dress? Of course not!

Sufferin Suckotash! (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675269)

I think I read somewhere that Wile E. Coyote uses Paypal to shop at ACME.

Radiological?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675277)

From TFA:

There was no immediate word on the contents of the device, but officials told CBS 5 Tuesday that the debris left behind was not radiological.

Wow. Why would the officials bother to mention that?

Re:Radiological?? (2, Insightful)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675417)

Because the election is one week away.

Re:Radiological?? (2, Insightful)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675473)

Wow. Why would the officials bother to mention that?

Because it's very easy to get your hands on low-grade nuclear material, wrap it around a conventional explosive, and create a "dirty bomb" that will throw a bunch of nuclear crap around and render the neighborhood effectively uninhabitable until it can be cleaned up. Do it in the rain and that might require digging up tons and tons of dirt and hauling it off, etc etc.

Re:Radiological?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675769)

There a millions of bad things it could have been that would involve a cleanup. That's not a valid reason for printing that. I'm more inclined to lean towards what other posters are saying "election time". To list all the easily acquired items that may have caused more damage than the story would have been a 300 page essay, but no, a specific and current political buzzword was used.

Re:Radiological?? (1)

jamstar7 (694492) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675787)

Wow. Why would the officials bother to mention that?

Because it's very easy to get your hands on low-grade nuclear material, wrap it around a conventional explosive, and create a "dirty bomb" that will throw a bunch of nuclear crap around and render the neighborhood effectively uninhabitable until it can be cleaned up. Do it in the rain and that might require digging up tons and tons of dirt and hauling it off, etc etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_bomb [wikipedia.org]

Looks to me like it'd be a waste of time other than the fact that it makes the government spend money cleaning it up.

Re:Radiological?? (4, Funny)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675515)

Because Kim Jong apparently had his paypal account frozen the week before.

Re:Radiological?? (1)

Kelson (129150) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675547)

Why would the officials bother to mention that?

Same reason that when a plane crashes in New York by pure accident, they're quick to point out that terrorism does not appear to have been involved.

Not very big (5, Interesting)

Silver Sloth (770927) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675297)

From TFA
"Whatever caused this was pretty strong,' said San Jose Fire Department Capt. Jose Guerrero. "It's tough to break one of these windows."
Er... As someone who lived in the UK during the IRA bombing campaign I can suggest that if the 'bomb' only broke a few windows then it wasn't exactly huge. Consider this atrocity [wikipedia.org]

Looks more like the sort of thing I used to knock up as a teenager - Sodium Chlorate and sugar anyone?

Re:Not very big (1)

mashade (912744) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675599)

If you'll read some of the comments above, you'll see that the HQ is in San Jose, California. Earthquakes are relatively frequent there, so they use windows hardened to withstand that.

I imagine the windows are probably stronger there than what you're used to seeing. I tend to think this was a more powerful bomb than you give credit.

Re:Not very big (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675631)

"Looks more like the sort of thing I used to knock up as a teenager - Sodium Chlorate and sugar anyone?"

I thought you were suppose to "knock up" something else as a teenager....

(slaps forehead) Wait, this is /. Nevermind.

I don't get it (2, Insightful)

OrangeTide (124937) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675307)

I hear people rant about how terrible paypal is, I don't understand why. Someone please explain.

I get a better deal with an ATM card through paypal than I get through my own bank. I actually collect interest on all my money as if it were a savings account. My "free" checking at my bank doesn't give me interest on money in my checking account. And if I put money in my savings account I can get fined for taking money out of it too often.

If you want to go around bombing finanicial institutions why not go after the ones that are actually greedy and evil. (seriously I am not recommending this, instead of a bomb why not write a nasty letter or post a rant/complaint in your blog to boycott the company)

Re:I don't get it (3, Insightful)

dontspamme (1017550) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675413)

Your own bank is less likely to freeze all your money for a minimum period of 6 weeks and to end up keeping it all without having the possibility to do nothing about it.

Re:I don't get it (1)

brouski (827510) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675415)

Do you actually use your account to buy and sell with?

Re:I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675455)

Good luck getting all your collected interest out of your account after they freeze it.

Re:I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675497)

The main issue with Paypal is them closing peoples accounts and without funds through no fault of the accounts owner.

Re:I don't get it (1)

loraksus (171574) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675639)

And if I put money in my savings account I can get fined for taking money out of it too often.

Then your bank "fucking sucks" (TM) and yeah, almost no checking accounts earn interest. Even if it did, if you keep a reasonable amount of money in there (i.e. not everything you have), what are you going to earn in interest? $10 a year?
The paypal card is a pain, probably the most annoying is the "automatic tip rejection" and I'm pretty sure their chargeback policy is the worst out there (not that ATM cards are worth a damn when it comes to chargebacks anyways).

Re:I don't get it (1)

Detritus (11846) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675653)

How would you like it if your bank froze all of your accounts and then refused to talk to you for several months? I haven't had any problems with paypal but there are many people who have, and their customer service is often terrible.

Re:I don't get it (1)

nehumanuscrede (624750) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675671)

Here, I'll help you understand PayPal a bit more.

Recently, I received notice from PayPal ( an actual PayPal notice, not a phishing email ) that several attempts had been made to gain access to my account from an IP they claim was somewhere in Russia.

Ok, no problem.

I log into my account and find their security notice along with the IP's that were registered when the access attempt was made. Site is verified, certificate checks out, etc. etc.

I rarely use my PayPal account anymore so I attempted to cancel the account.

THAT'S where the problem starts.

Since the access attempt, they locked the account to minimum permissions. The only way I
can cancel the account and / or remove the credit card information is to provide PayPal with
proof of who I am. This involves giving them my home phone number and my BANK ACCOUNT information.

Thus, my account remains open with my credit card info on their servers. You can't close it without giving out even MORE information. Which I refuse to do. Emails to customer service return the usual scripted crap they are known for.

My solution to the problem was to change my password to the most complex mind-numbing thing I could and wait until my credit card expires in December. At which point the card info on their servers will be invalid and I no longer have to worry about it.

A fast Google on PayPal problems will turn up similar stories for you.

Re:I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675813)

Call the credit card company and get them to issue you a new card with a new number, and cancel the old number.

Paypal's service is legendary (4, Informative)

blueZ3 (744446) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675831)

and not in a good way.

If you're using the service to buy and sell on eBay, and everything else in the transaction goes smoothly, then PayPal workd fine. However, if you have a problem (with a buyer or seller) and you try and take it up with PayPal, you're going to get screwed. Let me explain how it works:

If you are a seller, and you ship and you "collect" money from PayPal and ship the item you sold, if the seller complains to PayPal (they can claim they didn't get the item, that it wasn't as advertised, etc.) PayPal will take the money out of your account because the transaction was "fraudulent" -- your loss: one item (which you shipped) since you won't be seeing the money. If you are a buyer, it works the other way around. If you pay for something and it never arrives, PayPal will refuse to refund the money.

As far as I can tell, in instances where there is a dispute, PayPal collects the money for themselves and the buyer and seller are out of luck. Some of this seems to be based on "who complains first" but generally if you use PayPal and have a problem, you can kiss your money goodbye. Add to this the fact that PayPal constantly pushes linking your PayPal account to your "real" bank account (apparently so they can clean you out in one fell swoop) and you have a recipe for... well, I'd say about 5 lbs of ammonium nitrate, some black powder, and a time-delay fuse.

It was me (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675311)

I was the person who sold this explosive device to an excellent ebayer, A+++++++, fast payment, would highly recommend doing business!

employee protection? (1)

disturbedite (979015) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675327)

how could they provide employee protection when they don't even provide customer protection?...

What a shame (1, Flamebait)

oliverthered (187439) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675329)

What a shame the bomb wasn't bigger.

Re:What a shame (5, Insightful)

Rufus211 (221883) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675553)

What a shame the bomb wasn't bigger.

I may not like some (a lot) of PayPall's policies, and I might wish paypall to go out of business. That said why do the 20-odd hackers that were in the building at the time deserve to be bombed?

Hehe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675335)

PayPal, instead of the usual "Pay up pal, or we will cancel your account and take all your money", got PayPal'ed instead-"Pay me back my money pal, or we will bomb your building."

Quality Journalism (1)

Asklepius M.D. (877835) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675343)

From TFA There was no immediate word on the contents of the device, but officials told CBS 5 Tuesday that the debris left behind was not radiological.

This was my first worry..... but the article failed to mention whether hackers, teens, or radical islamofacistantiglobalisticexpialidocious terrorists may or may not have been involved.

Thank God ... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675363)

... it was not a nukelar bomb.

George

What in the crap? (1, Flamebait)

grammar fascist (239789) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675367)

Perhaps they should have offered employee protection instead?

What's this garbage? And linking to a story about how PayPal is going to "suck less?"

There's black comedy and there's black comedy, and the latter kind implies that your sympathies lie with the perpetrators. Do you think, maybe, this is a bad way to start an article?

Good one, Pooua.

Re:What in the crap? (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675593)

Your sympathies can lie with the perpetrators without agreeing with their actions - I know that a lot of people would bomb paypal. They wouldn't do it, and most of them wouldn't condone such an action, but at the same time since no one was hurt it's not unreasonable to take a certain kind of smug satisfaction.

Personally, although I would never be involved (I am just NOT sneaky and even my fingerprints are the easiest kind to identify, arch+whorl) I would love to see a few more bombs go off at the headquarters of some of our less favorite companies. If I were going to blow something up, I'd be attacking their infrastructure instead of just blowing up windows - hit the box where their networking wiring is, or blow up their electrical transformer. This was just a poor waste of a bomb.

I'd say the first bombs to go off should be at the USPTO, the HQ of the RIAA and every single one of their members, and various SBC facilities. Microsoft is pretty far down the list, but by god they're on there.

To the government watchdogs reading this because it was flagged, again, I would never blow shit up. Honest.

Re:What in the crap? (1)

loraksus (171574) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675715)

and the latter kind implies that your sympathies lie with the perpetrators

Bing bing bing!

Re:What in the crap? (1)

blahplusplus (757119) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675773)

"There's black comedy and there's black comedy, and the latter kind implies that your sympathies lie with the perpetrators. Do you think, maybe, this is a bad way to start an article?"

You must have never been defrauded before for a SERIOUS amont of money that represents a large chunk of you time spent having worked

Tell me have you ever been ripped off for a large amount of money? I don't care WHO you are, but when you've worked months and months for money and someone defrauds you of thousands of dollars, thats MONTHS or YEARS of your life you can't get back, money gives a person control of their time and their life, it supports their family, when someone steals that money, THEIR PROPERTY, LIFE AND TIME HAS BEEN STOLEN FROM THEM.

It's a perfectly valid response. You have to understand paypal does stupid fucking things, I got defrauded once and paypal gave me a hell of a time simply because I bought from a buyer who did not have "paypal buyer protection" after the sale because he ripped off a bunch of people and then the flurry of negative feedback came on ebay, but he DID have buyer ptoection wgeb I made the sale, but he lost it due to bad ebay feedback and I had to haggle with paypal for my money of technicality.

Sure bombing may seem extreme from our side because we are not the person who has been defrauded, but if it was a big enough amount of money it surely would be very difficult to settle onself if you're not in a position to get it back.

You're a retard. (1)

ChiChiCuervo (2445) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675833)

Anyone who's experienced Paypal's wonderful quality of service DOES sympathize with the perpetrators. They're the same people who rightly hate Verizon, MSFT, RIAA, MPAA, the RUC, George W. Bush and every other entity that is both arrogant and incompetant, and covers the latter with more of the former!

I've been lucky, never having met the ire of paypal, nor needing customer service for myself.. But I've suffered through more than a few nightmares on behalf of friends and associates.. and every single time i've wondered how they've avoided some nutjob doing exactly this.

But huzzah to Tyler Durden for fighting the good fight! Huzzah!

Funny? (5, Insightful)

Nos. (179609) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675403)

I just don't find any of this funny. Planting a bomb anywhere but in strict controlled testing areas is not a joke. Obviously this was at least meant to damage the building, and possibly even to harm people. Imagine for a minute that you're a tech at this location, regardless of who it is. You're not responsible for corporate policy. Yet you're in as much, or more danger from an attack like this than those who do make the decisions.

I'm just glad nobody was hurt, and that the damage was relatively minor. I hope the culprit or culprits are caught quickly, and dealt with harshly.

Re:Funny? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675493)

Imagine for a minute that you're a tech at this location, regardless of who it is. You're not responsible for corporate policy. Yes, they were just following orders. That exempts them from any moral responsibility. After all, it's impossible to just resign a job from an immoral company. Newsflash - the "just following orders" defence doesn't work based on significant precedent.

Re:Funny? (2, Insightful)

otacon (445694) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675603)

Most people aren't trying to make a statement by choosing where they work. They just want to collect a paycheck. Simple as that.

Re:Funny? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675647)

The "just following orders" defence historically applied to those kinds of people, not the ideological leaders. People who just wanted to get by, while willingly overlooking immoral things they did, were punished. This seems appropriate to me.

Re:Funny? (1)

otacon (445694) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675735)

Ok, I see your argument, how do you even figure PayPal as being an immoral company, every company has people that are dissatisfied. As far as I know they haven't broken any laws, and are not under investigation. They provide a widely used service. Now if you were the sysadmin for a 419 E-Mail scam operation, I would totally agree with you that it would be wrong to "just follow orders". Where legally and ethically the company is in the wrong.

Re:Funny? (1)

Nos. (179609) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675621)

Resigning from a job because of differing beliefs between employee and employer is admirable. However, its not as easy as handing in your resignation when you've got a family to feed and a mortgage to pay. I've been there, it can take years to find a new and better position.

Just following orders - only applies to legal proceedings. If they asked an employee to do something illegal that's one thing. The guy maintaining the OS isn't doing anything illegal, and arguably, nothing immoral either.

Re:Funny? (1)

otacon (445694) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675525)

Yeah seriously, I mean could you imagine working there and how rattled you would be from it all? Those people are just trying to make a living like everyone else. The fact that some people think their service sucks is irrelevent, it doesn't constitute planting a bomb. Whether it was a serious attack or meant as a gag, it's still not very funny.

Re:Funny? (2, Insightful)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675607)

Ethically and morally I totally agree with you.

However, due to an odd mixture of customer dissatisfaction, slightly warped senses of drama and poetic justice, and good old-fashioned schadenfreude, I still chuckled.

Humans, eh?

Big Brother is watching (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675453)

I would be careful with some of these posts. If I understand the Patriot Act and subsequent laws, joking about bombs can get you into a lot of trouble.

Re:Big Brother is watching (1)

alienmole (15522) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675705)

If such laws exist, then it would be a good idea to test them and break them as much as possible. Otherwise, things will only get worse in future.

Maybe... (1)

doit3d (936293) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675551)

...Osama got angry that George had PayPal freeze his account.

Customer Service (1)

dontspamme (1017550) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675567)

The bomber probably figured that it was the best way to catch the customer service department's attention.

Resistance is futile (1)

nacturation (646836) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675669)

Check out the first frame of that video. It's captioned "Employees evacuated after explosion at PayPal" and shows what looks to be a Borg-like figure. I'm sure the PayPal collective has gone into regeneration mode and should be back at full strength in no time.
 

Obligatory "Fight Club" Reference (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675713)

The first rule of Operation Mayhem is that we don't talk about Operation Mayhem.

michael moore (0, Troll)

minus_273 (174041) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675721)

to quote michael moore, "these are the minute men!" there is nothing braver than leaving a bomb in a civillian area to kill random people

afik (1)

thripper (965380) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675743)

thepiratebay's paypal accound was closed.

Hey Max, looks like you got out in time, eh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675785)

Can't have the Russian mob or some crazy fuck who lost all his cash after you, am I rite?

Olbigatory.... (1)

m0rph3us0 (549631) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675799)

All your accounts are belong to us.

It's one thing when... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16675803)

the government freezes an Al-Qaeda account. But it's an entirely different story when Paypal does. LoL :D

Windows (0, Troll)

batje14 (1018044) | more than 7 years ago | (#16675841)

a small bomb, and the only thing that breaks is Windows.
Do you really need a bomb for that?
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