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Wired News 2006 Vaporware Awards

CmdrTaco posted more than 7 years ago | from the it's-that-time-of-year-again dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 215

silentounce writes "Wired News has released the winners of its 9th annual Wired News Vaporware Awards. I won't list any of them in the summary because I don't want to spoil anyone's surprise. They have some interesting entries, one that is more a concept of a product than an actual product. I'm not sure how you can claim something is vaporware if it hasn't even been given a specific name or a developer yet, but apparently they think they can. "

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Nothing for you to see here. Please move along (2, Funny)

Klaidas (981300) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378028)

Hmmm... story vaporware?

Re:Nothing for you to see here. Please move along (4, Funny)

Bastard of Subhumani (827601) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378740)

Metavaporware: vaporware about vaporware.

As always, you-know-who is #1 (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17378076)

Here's the list of major accomplishments that have been achieved since they announced it back in 1997: http://duke.a-13.net/ [a-13.net]

Re:As always, you-know-who is #1 (2, Informative)

Thansal (999464) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378230)

ha!

that is an awsome list.
# Over 75 games based in the MegaMan universe, and 12 games featuring MegaMan universe character cameos.
# Over 50 games based in the Star Wars universe.
# Mario has appeared in 58 different video games.


Those are just fun statistics :D

Re:As always, you-know-who is #1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17378704)

They could claim the world record in vaporware...

Re:As always, you-know-who is #1 (2, Insightful)

Bieeanda (961632) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379520)

I just love that they claim that Prey enjoyed 'overwhelming success'. Given that it was almost as late, little more than silly gameplay gimmicks, and far, far shorter than the designers swore, I'd call it 'middling' at best.

Vaporware (3, Insightful)

phoenixwade (997892) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378094)

Is it just me? or is listing "Duke Nukem Forever" as number one yet again becoming a tired old joke?

Re:Vaporware (5, Funny)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378210)

tired old joke?

      Old jokes never tire on Slashdot, you insensitive clod!

Re:Vaporware (4, Funny)

slashbob22 (918040) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378606)

tired old joke?

Old jokes never tire on Slashdot, you insensitive clod!
Cue the: In Soviet Russia joke tires you.

Re:Vaporware (2, Funny)

rblancarte (213492) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379428)

Can you imagine a beowulf cluster of tired old jokes?

Re:Vaporware (0, Redundant)

eyeball (17206) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378860)

Old jokes never tire on Slashdot, you insensitive clod!

In Soviet Russia, old jokes tire of you!

Re:Vaporware (0, Redundant)

diogenesx (580716) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379032)

In Soviet Russia, Old Jokes Tire Of YOU!

Re:Vaporware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17379216)

...but will it run on linux? ...but can it perform cunnilingus on a hardwood floor?

Re:Vaporware (1)

BunnyClaws (753889) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378246)

Nah, Duke Nukem Forever is the king of vaporware. If the 3D Realms had just dropped the idea of Duke Nukem Forever then the joke would be old. However, they claim to still be developing it which is what makes it so damn funny. DKF should have gone the way of Team Fortress II and just let it die a silent death but 3D Realms continues to keep promising it.

By the way I still want to play Team Fortress II.

Re:Vaporware (4, Informative)

Thansal (999464) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378536)

Actualy TF2 is currently slated for release with HL2:EP2 (I think that has a 2nd quarter '07 date, but I don't remember atm).

The original TF2 was scrapped around the same time as HL2 started dev, but that was because they just compleatly restarted the project based on Source.

Re:Vaporware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17379532)

Like that makes it ok.

DNF switched underlying platforms several times, and it still made the list.

Re:Vaporware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17378590)

Actually TF2 did not die a silent death...it had a silent rebirth:

Check out the latest trailer! [youtube.com]

You know that's some badass shit...

Re:Vaporware (1)

BunnyClaws (753889) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378782)

HA! It was a silent rebirth. I didn't know they had trailers out there. The clips do look very slick. Great, "Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me right back in." I gotta play Team Fortress 2 now. It actually looks a lot different than the original TF2 clips. Looks more like the original TFC running on the HL2 engine. But damn it looks good.

Re:Vaporware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17379438)

> Looks more like the original TFC running on the HL2 engine.

Eh??? It's cel-shaded! How could that look anything like TFC?

I do like the whimsical take tho. You want gritty, play counterstrike.

Re:Vaporware (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17378632)

AFAICT, the list was voted on by Wired readers. Blame the unwashed masses

A380 is not vaporware... (4, Insightful)

IdleTime (561841) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378108)

It is already flying. Just because it is not in commercial use yet, doesn't make it vapor ware. Duke Nukem is.

Re:A380 is not vaporware... (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17378268)

By that definition, Duke Nukem is not vaporware either. After 10 years, the game has to be somewhat playable, but it is not yet ready for commercial use - much like the A380.

Re:A380 is not vaporware... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17378940)

Why did it get its type certification from the FAA then? Here it is. [faa.gov]

Re:A380 is not vaporware... (3, Interesting)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378356)

[A380] is already flying. Just because it is not in commercial use yet, doesn't make it vapor ware.

The X-33 flew as well, but that was total vaporware. Until someone accepts delivery of an A380, it will remain as vaporware as Airbus continues to delay shipments in order to "work out the bugs".

Re:A380 is not vaporware... (4, Funny)

east coast (590680) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378932)

I hate to bust your bubble but I just got my A380 delivered yesterday. It's sweet.

Re:A380 is not vaporware... (1)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379350)

Oh, yeah? That's nothing, I got an Airbus 440, which I ordered from Michael's Computers [michaelscomputers.com] , and it can transport 700 passengers 13,000 miles, as compared to the paltry 555 people for 8000 miles.

AND it comes with a 5-year warranty. Let's see Airbus or even Alienware beat that!

Re:A380 is not vaporware... (3, Informative)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379044)

Actually the X-33 never flew, the project was cancelled when the prototype was 85% complete.

The A380 is not vapourware - its in production, the delays are due to production problems and not technical issues with the concept itself. Infact, the A380 delays are the perfect example of incompatabilities in IT based projects - different parts were designed with different versions of the CATIA system, leading to problems with the wiring bundles that Airbus are sorting out now.

Airlines also disagree with you - two airlines (Singapore and Qantas) placed followon orders to their originals this year, even before they had the first one delivered, so that says something about confidence in the aircraft.

Re:A380 is not vaporware... (0, Offtopic)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379406)

Actually the X-33 never flew, the project was cancelled when the prototype was 85% complete.

You're correct. I was confusing the hydrogen tank explosion as having happened during the scheduled 1999 test flight. Replace X-33 with the DC-X, however, and you have the same result.

The A380 is not vapourware - its in production, the delays are due to production problems and not technical issues with the concept itself.

Production delays are still delays. Until the first fully operational craft is delivered to a customer, it is still vaporware. I have no doubt that it will happen eventually, but that doesn't stop the vapor phase from occurring.

Re:A380 is not vaporware... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17379500)

Airlines also disagree with you - two airlines (Singapore and Qantas) placed followon orders to their originals this year, even before they had the first one delivered, so that says something about confidence in the aircraft.

I read on flightglobal.com that Singapore Airlines have actually placed a third additional order a couple of weeks ago after their flight training team visited Airbus headquarters and were convinced that "the design is very sound".

Re:A380 is not vaporware... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17378598)

You must be French.

Re:A380 is not vaporware... (1)

IdleTime (561841) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378702)

Probably as much as you are French I guess...

By that definition (1)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378698)

Most of the list isn't vaporware. For example SEDs really exist, people have seen them in operation (and are impressed with what they see). However that doesn't change the fact that from a consumer standpoint, they are vaporware. They were promised, they haven't been delivered. I can't go out and buy one.

Likewise I'm sure that DNF exists in some form, I'm sure that they haven't just been doing nothing all this time. However it's not out, and thus is vapour.

iPhone (1)

bndnchrs (1044108) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378112)

Where is the iPhone here? That and the create-a-house. Or anything that gets put in the "Tech to come" section of Popular Science

Re:iPhone (1)

phoenixwade (997892) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378142)

Where is the iPhone here?That and the create-a-house. Or anything that gets put in the "Tech to come" section of Popular Science

I get to be the first to say "RTFA"

"The answer Resides within" if one would just read.......

Re:iPhone (1)

Meatloaf Surprise (1017210) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378300)

From the Article:

We received stacks of votes for Apple Computer's iPhone, but that doesn't count since Apple has never actually promised the iPod/phone combo. Except to maybe the board of directors.

Do I get a prize?

Re:iPhone (1)

silentounce (1004459) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378458)

Yeah, see here [slashdot.org] for details.

Re:iPhone (1)

Meatloaf Surprise (1017210) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378186)

The iPhone is just a rumor. Apple has not confirmed nor promised it.

Duke (3, Funny)

tedgyz (515156) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378136)

Yes, Duke Nukem Never is still there. It is eligible for a lifetime achievement award.

Move along. Next article.

Re:Duke (1, Informative)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378178)

Duke Nukem Never is still there. It is eligible for a lifetime achievement award.

      It already has ONE a lifetime achievement award!

Re:Duke (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17378284)

That's "WON", you illiterate turd.

Re:Duke (0, Offtopic)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378342)

That's "WON", you illiterate turd.

      One as in the NUMBER one, ie. the quantity of lifetime awards it has to date, jackass. Perhaps if you put away the crack pipe, your reading comprehension would improve.

Re:Duke (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17378488)

One as in the NUMBER one, ie. the quantity of lifetime awards it has to date, jackass. Perhaps if you put away the crack pipe, your reading comprehension would improve.


Perhaps you should have left the "a" out then.

(puffs on a rock for a bit...)

Well there are two ways to say this:

"It already has ONE lifetime achievement award!" (without the "a")

or

"It already has won a lifetime achievement award!"

I can't believe I just did that... (puffs on a fresh rock... puts "get a life" on the top of his list.)

Re:Duke (1)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378546)

I'm just happy I can read and write typo fluently.

Re:Duke (1)

Lars T. (470328) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379184)

I'm just happy I can read and write typo fluently.
Shouldn't that read superfluently in this case? ;-)

Re:Duke (1)

Bastard of Subhumani (827601) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378844)

Maybe he meant "a one lifetime achievement", implying that most of us will be dead & gone by the time it comes out?

Re:Duke (1)

operagost (62405) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379524)

Maybe if you knew how to write, you would not have placed the indefinite article "a" before the word "one", which led to the confusion. Here's your post again (say it out loud):

It already has ONE a lifetime achievement award!
See the problem?

Re:Duke (1)

theGil (1010409) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378550)

It already has ONE a lifetime achievement award!
Additionally, I believe Wired News created the Vaporware Lifetime Achievement Award in 2003 for Duke Nukem Forever.

Re:Duke (4, Funny)

bndnchrs (1044108) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378190)

Read the article. Lifetime achievement was three years ago. We are now awarding Picasso-esque posthumous medals of success. or something like that

Re:Duke (1)

tedgyz (515156) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378426)

Actually, I did RTFA. I just didn't comprehend. :-)

Re:Duke (1)

manifoldronin (827401) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379540)

Read the article. Lifetime achievement was three years ago. We are now awarding Picasso-esque posthumous medals of success. or something like that
No... in this context, that would have to wait until after it's released...

Re:Duke (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378986)

I am betting they are waiting for PC that can render 1080p screen in POVRay full detail at at least 30 times a second that way when the system is released they will have a game that fully utilizes the system.

Airbus A380 (4, Insightful)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378168)

Vapour? Have you seen the size of the fucking thing? Anyway its been built, tested and approved for flight. Yes there are difficulties but they will possibly make it a white elephant, but certainly not vapourware.

Re:Airbus A380 (1)

hey (83763) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378374)

If it every crashes there will be quite a lot of vapour.

Re:Airbus A380 (1)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378638)

Especially if it crashes into the Wired News offices. It could be a new type of vapour, ironic vapour.

Vapored (2, Insightful)

fm6 (162816) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378930)

Yes there's a prototype for the A380. There's also a demo for Spore. But until Airbus figures out how to insert those 300 miles of wiring, the prototype is meaningless. Without any wiring, a jetliner is just a ... I want to say "big doorstop" but somehow that's not right.

You do sort of have a point. "Vaporware" originally described products that never got beyond the Breathless Announcement, and were usually created solely to stifle interest in competing products. Only one or two products on the Wired list fit that description. We really need a separate term for products that are really, honestly under development, but are way behind schedule. Deathmarchware?

I'm profoundly unsurprised that Spore is in trouble. IMHO, Will Wright is grossly overrated as a game designer. All his games pretend to be simulations, but the "realities" they pretend to implement are absurdly simplistic. (Why is every Sim a bisexual OJ?) People do enjoy playing them, but only because they enjoy fantasizing about their imaginary worlds. The game pretends to bring simulation to the fantasy, but really just provide fancy graphics. Judging from the videos I've seen, Spore isn't any different. And for a game that pretends to model the evolution of wholes species, that just isn't enough.

Re:Vapored (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17379038)

There are more than five A380s that aren't prototypes in the sense that they won't be delivered to customers since they will but until now they have been used to get the necessary number of test flight hours logged before it can receive its type certificate, which it did the other day - it's here [faa.gov] .

Re:Vapored (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379212)

Yes there's a prototype for the A380.

Theres one prototype and 6 production airframes that have flown to date, and another 5 airframes that are awaiting spare capacity at the Hamburg cabin assembly line so that they can fly there.

It may be a screwed up project, but its far from vapourware.

Re:Vapored (1)

Lars T. (470328) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379218)

Yes there's a prototype for the A380. There's also a demo for Spore. But until Airbus figures out how to insert those 300 miles of wiring, the prototype is meaningless. Without any wiring, a jetliner is just a ... I want to say "big doorstop" but somehow that's not right.

So why do the A380s that are flying manage without all that cable?

Re:Vapored (1)

nuzak (959558) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379484)

> Without any wiring, a jetliner is just a ... I want to say "big doorstop" but somehow that's not right.

That is one hell of a door.

A380 (1)

MECC (8478) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378170)

The A380 is flying. Far from a spruce goose.

Re:A380 (1)

peragrin (659227) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378444)

the spruce goose flew though. It wasn't official because it hadn't been cleared for flight but it did fly.

The A380 is just on perpetual back order.

Vaporware? (2, Insightful)

El Lobo (994537) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378176)

Hmmm... the word vaporware was used to describe a product that NEVER WILL be relleased and was just speculation... Those lists are describing products that often are late. Last year both Vista and IE7 made the list and guess what? They are out!

So many of those products may be "lateware" but not vaporware. Hell, even Duke Nukem may be out some day AFAIK.

Re:Vaporware? (3, Funny)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378260)

Hell, even Duke Nukem may be out some day AFAIK.

      Aww come on, now you're pushing it, man!

Re:Vaporware? (2, Insightful)

arth1 (260657) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378610)

Hmmm... the word vaporware was used to describe a product that NEVER WILL be relleased and was just speculation... Those lists are describing products that often are late. Last year both Vista and IE7 made the list and guess what? They are out!

Due to the lack of clairvoyance in the media industry, it's hard to tell beforehand which products will never be released. So the working definition of vaporware is a product that was promised a certain time, but wasn't release. Many delayed products get canned, some get the name transferred to a new product, and some actually come out, delayed. Which one it will be, we won't know until it happens. In the mean time, we call the products "vaporware", because they failed to materialise as promised.

Re:Vaporware? (1)

ClosedSource (238333) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379006)

If a product is branded as vaporware but eventually is released, it simply means that the product was incorrectly classified, no working definition is required, the correct one works just fine.

Re:Vaporware? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378716)

Well, since my crystal sphere was in the laundry last year, I couldn't predict what would be finished before the year's over. So sorry.

Seriously, products that are announced for years without any measurable progress to show that there is actually something being done to get them to gold status deserve the award. I'm not so sure about the A380, and maybe Vista didn't really qualify either. But there are hands-down examples that deserve that award, like DNF. It might ship, finally, one day, after the apocalypse or whenever, it's not ruled out that it just might show up one day. But so far I can't see any measurable progress, no information that there is actual development, not even new screenshots, so it does fit the definition of Vaporware pretty well.

True Vaporware (1)

The Living Fractal (162153) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378228)

I think the developers of DNF have been using these [wikipedia.org] maybe a little too much.

TLF

I like ruining surprises (5, Informative)

MasterC (70492) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378254)

I like ruining surprises (uh, ok, whatever Mr. Story Poster) and I hate multi-page stories. Wikipedia links provided for the fun of it

Runner up.. (1)

andersa (687550) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378640)

KDE4 missed the list, but I am betting on it for next years list.

Re:Runner up.. (1)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379246)

KDE4 isn't really vaporware. It's "not ready yet" but you can get the developer snapshots right now.

You can build and run KDE4 today, if you want to.

LK

Re:Runner up.. (1)

Orange Crush (934731) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379354)

KDE4 missed the list, but I am betting on it for next years list.

They slipped a little on the technical preview, but work is progressing. There's a lot on the plate to get to KDE4--mainly under the hood to port everything over to QT4. However, I understand this will open the door for more cross-platform KDE apps (KOffice, Konqueror, etc. running natively in Windows & OSX). They're aiming for a mid-2007 release, but there's still a ways to go and I wouldn't be surprised if it slipped to late '07/early '08. It's a bit trickier to pin an open source project as vaporware--the code's available and either it's being worked on or it isn't. KDE most certainly is.

Duke Nukem vs. Windows Vista for MIA Award... (2, Insightful)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378266)

I can't believe that Duke Nukem Forever knocked Windows Vista for the MIA award. For five years we were promised all these wonderful technologies that would be part of Windows Vista and the only thing that's coming out next month is a Windows XP upgrade.

Re:Duke Nukem vs. Windows Vista for MIA Award... (1)

imbaczek (690596) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378762)

Tens of thousands of people use betas of Vista daily, so that doesn't count - same as gmail.

Re:Duke Nukem vs. Windows Vista for MIA Award... (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379068)

Technically, Vista is being released. It just won't be the product it was promised to be. So on a techincality, it is off the list.

MOD PARENT UP BABY - I'm SOOO INFORMATIVE!!!! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17378294)

10. Optimus-103 Keyboard
9. Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl
8. The "IPod Killer"
7. Gran Turismo 4 Mobile
6. Airbus A380
5. SED Televisions
4. Spore
3. Skype for Symbian
2. TiVoToGo for Mac
1. Duke Nukem Forever
For da lazy. ya, right. bring on this karma!!

Duke Nukem Forever (0, Redundant)

bndnchrs (1044108) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378316)

The next Duke Nukem game: "Duke Nukem Forever...and ever... and ever..." God I am witty

Misread (2, Funny)

Rob Carr (780861) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378354)

I thought the one item on the list read Skype Sybian.

I bet it would sell....

Re:Misread (1)

Rellik66 (596729) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379422)

ah yes, that would be the phone sex killer app

Windows Media Player for Linux? (2, Insightful)

acroyear (5882) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378372)

I'm still waiting on that one... ...of course it doesn't really matter much since iTunes is in control of the audio-for-sale and video-for-sale market these days. DIVx-based AVIs are becoming the default for "free" video content, particularly from Europe.

As I wrote before here, WMP for Linux was meant as a strategic move to scare content owners away from the open-sourcing of Real Networks' player and codecs, by promising WMP-based DRM for the Linux market. It seemed to work, but rather than go to WMP (which had technical issues as shown by early BootlegTV downloads from the DGM record label (King Crimson)), they held off until iTunes set the new DRM standard. M$'s been behind ever since.

Re:Windows Media Player for Linux? (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378954)

iTunes may be the largest player in the paid download media department, but that shouldn't stop others from making their offerings. Given that iTunes purchases don't directly play on most phones, PDAs and such, the market should be wide open. eMusic and Magnatune do offer legal sales of non-encrypted tracks.

DNF (1)

Vengie (533896) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378430)

I'm actually thinking that DNF will win *despite* being released -- and two or three successive years. It's too embedded in the culture at this point. How else can you describe the archetype of vaporware? [The obvious justification is that the /real/ DNF, i.e. the one promised since 97, will not have shipped. Even if DNF wins, the spirit of DNF can live on.]

I can see the meme already: "This is what DNF should have been" for new game demos....

Re:DNF (1)

nuzak (959558) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379530)

It's worth repeating: in racing jargon, "DNF" stands for "Did Not Finish"

Evolution - NOT (2, Interesting)

CustomDesigned (250089) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378516)

In Wright's Spore, which is being developed by Maxis, the player guides a species through the grand process of evolution -- from a single-cell organism to star-hopping superbeings. Everything the user creates will be compiled into a giant database and shared among all the game's online players.

Evolution is defined as unguided. The above is a description of Intelligent Design, not evolution. The player is essentially the god of a universe built via Theistic Evolution, and every game play decision is a miracle. In a game based on true Evolution, you would just watch everything unfold randomly according to the game rules after perhaps tweaking some initial conditions (you are allowed some Initial Design of the rules / state at the Big Bang, since that doesn't involve any god/world interaction).

Re:Evolution - NOT (1)

silentounce (1004459) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378594)

"In a game based on true Evolution, you would just watch everything unfold randomly according to the game rules after perhaps tweaking some initial conditions (you are allowed some Initial Design of the rules / state at the Big Bang, since that doesn't involve any god/world interaction)."

And that is a game how? And it is "loosely" based on evolution, things you eat and how you behave determine some of the outcomes. Obviously it's more complex than that, but it is not just entirely designing. With your logic you could argue that Civilization [slashdot.org] isn't really a simulation of human history because it doesn't involve actual beings making decisions that result in a society unfolding.

Re:Evolution - NOT (1)

Thansal (999464) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378642)

Now that owuld be an awsome mod for Spore.

just have some way for the creatures to develope based on what problems they encountered. No it would not be "real" evoloution, but it would be awsome to watch.

Re:Evolution - NOT (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378804)

Sure, but who'd play that? Mix'n stir, then let it explode and wait a few billion years.

I'd feel like playing WoW again...

Re:Evolution - NOT (1)

OpenGLFan (56206) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378858)

But if you're acting as an omnipotent outside force, experimenting with improvements on the organisms you've built, then you're saying . . . you're the God of Evolution!

There are Gods of War, Gods of Harvest, Thunder Gods, why not a God of Evolution? Try tossing that into an Intelligent Design argument. That oughta stir that argument up.

Re:Evolution - NOT (1)

kalirion (728907) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379022)

here [wikipedia.org] ya go.

Re:Evolution - NOT (1)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379100)

Evolution is defined as unguided. The above is a description of Intelligent Design, not evolution.

Geez. Don't be so dogmatic. ;-)

Palm OS? (1)

jj00 (599158) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378592)

When is the next version of the Palm OS coming out?

some one has to say it (1)

phrostie (121428) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378652)

a secure version of Windows

Or how about... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17379062)

A heterosexual version of you.

Please stop... (2, Insightful)

thedarb (181754) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378712)

Please stop posting Wired stories. We all already read Wired on a daily basis, just like we read Slashdot. Why post it here days after we've already read it? Just please stop doing it already.

Re:Please stop... (1)

KingNaught (718536) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378766)

"Please stop posting Wired stories. We all already read Wired on a daily basis, just like we read Slashdot. Why post it here days after we've already read it? Just please stop doing it already."

First people complain about the Ford story becuase it isn't tech nerd related and doesn't belong on slashdot, now people complain about tech stories becuase were all nerds here and have already read every tech news article before they apear on slashdot. So what would you have people post?

Re:Please stop... (1)

KermodeBear (738243) | more than 7 years ago | (#17378822)

I don't read Wired every day. I only go there if a /. article links to an interesting (to me) story or they happen to show up in a Google search result. So there.

Infinium Labs? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17378714)

No vaporware list is complete without an entry for a least one Infinium Labs product, be it the Phantom console or the Lapboard.
The most amazing thing is that people keep pouring money [yahoo.com] in this bottomless pit of a company.

Any 3D Realms people also Slashdotters? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17378922)

Really, I'm just curious. I'm not going to make fun of you or anything.

I am starting to wonder (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17379152)

Did Nascar get their DNF acronym (did not finish) from Duke Nukem Forever

My vaporware pick: KDE Plasma (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17379164)

After talking about how great it will be for the last three years or so, Mr Seigo and Co. should show something off soon, and it better be good... and no, I'm not talking about backendstuff (Solid, Phonon, ...), I'm talking about the friggin' UI.

Skype on Symbian (1)

Dr. Cody (554864) | more than 7 years ago | (#17379416)

Did anyone else read that as Sybian?

Skype + Sybian = Teledildonics?
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