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"Dracula's Castle" For Sale In Romania

kdawson posted more than 7 years ago | from the i'll-bite dept.

The Almighty Buck 167

galaad2 writes "Want to own the real castle that may have inspired the legend of Dracula? The Transylvanian castle associated with Vlad the Impaler, who may have been part of the inspiration for Bram Stoker's Count Dracula, is on sale for £40 million ($77 million). Bran Castle, near the historic city of Brasov, in central Romania, draws 450,000 visitors a year because of its association with 15th-century Prince Vlad Tepes III. (Wikipedia points out that Bran Castle's ties to Vlad are weak and disputed.) The local town council has been offered first refusal; they have 30 days to review the offer and then the property will be put on the market."

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Vlad's old digs, eh? (5, Funny)

djupedal (584558) | more than 7 years ago | (#17519978)

Ok, I'll bite...

Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? (1)

namityadav (989838) | more than 7 years ago | (#17519994)

I never knew that there was really a Dracula castle in Transylvania, Romania. I am a bit scared now :-(

Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? (5, Informative)

afd8856 (700296) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520204)

In the interest of spreading real news, I'll try to clarify things a bit.

The castle was donated to an old Romanian queen by the local city. Comunists came and took it, now the royal family got it back as a donation. The Romanian Culture Ministry has a clause in that donation act that they are to be the first to be notified in case it's available for sale and they have the right to purchase it back first. The Royal Family didn't notify the Culture Ministry yet, so they can't officially sell it because the Culture Ministry hasn't refused to purchase it yet.

The whole thing looks a bit like a scam from the Royal Family to increase the value of the castle. Apropos, the castle is the most major Romanian tourist site, it's very beautiful and it makes something like 10 milion Euro/year, with about 6 milion Euro/year expenses.

Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? (2)

iLogiK (878892) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520338)

I've seen a report on this story last night, including an interview with the Minister of Culture and he said that as far as he's concerned he will refuse to puchase it. Also I believe that the castle will go to the city of Brasov as that was the wish of the royal family. I'm not to sure about all of this as I wasn't really paying attention to the TV.

Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? (3, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520630)

Comunists came and took it, now the royal family got it back as a donation.

Yeah, it was the Communists who kicked the old man [wikipedia.org] out of the castle; he lived in New York City for a while and then settled down in Rio de Janeiro. No word yet if he wants his old castle back. It might suck for the royal family if he did show up.

Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? (2, Informative)

MrNiCeGUi (302919) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520896)

You are right in saying that it's a scam. But the castle is not the most major Romanian tourist site, far from it, and the actual yearly income is something around a 300.000 Euro, nowhere near 10 million.
In my opinion, the state should pass. There is no particular reason that it should own this castle, as no matter who will buy it will have to keep it opened to tourists. But, as you said, it is just a scam by the owners together with corrupt County Council members to swindle the state out of an outrageous amount. Frankly I'm pretty angry: this particular scam will cost me around 10 Euro.

Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? (1)

antic (29198) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521110)

Looks like it's already sold:

"The local authorities of the Brasov county will by the world-famous Bran Castle for 60 million euro and will get the money by leasing with a 10-year loan from an Austrian bank. The move comes eight months after the rightful owner of the castle, now known as "Dracula's castle", Dominic Habsburg, got it back in a retrocession process."

a scam? (1)

artifex2004 (766107) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521308)

Are you saying the Royal Family's a fly-by-night operation?

Just kidding. I don't view the castle as a moneymaker, but as a world-famous landmark. It doesn't matter if it's really associated with Vlad; it's Bran Castle.

I vant to suck your vallet (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521790)

Seriously, dubious connection to Vlad aside, the castle does have a fascinating history and has connections to a variety of royals (and Bram Stoker). It's also a boon to the local economy and a beautiful castle.

Not sure if that makes it worth $70 million. But it's certainly got some value outside of its Vlad connection.

-Eric

Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? (2, Interesting)

Werkhaus (549466) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520236)

There's the ruins of one he got some Turkish landowners to build, too. The remains of it overlook the Arges river and it's a bit of a slog to get to it (1500-odd steps). Legend says that he worked rebellious Boyars to death building it.
http://www.draculascastle.com/html/poenari.html [draculascastle.com]

Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? (3, Funny)

gbobeck (926553) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520006)

Ok, I'll bite...

Eh, Dracula sucks.

Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? (0, Redundant)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520082)

Blah! I want to suck your bank account!

Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17520298)

Can you get a cable modem or DSL there?

Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17520784)

Most probably no cable internet in that village. For DSL, stop dreaming, it's easier and less expensive to get fiber.
And when you spend 40 million GBP for a castle, you could probaly spend a few more thousand pounds to get fiber. The closest city is only about 30 km away.

Re:Vlad's old digs, eh? (2, Funny)

WidescreenFreak (830043) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521794)

I'll drink to that! Bloody Mary, anyone?

Bats (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17520016)

£40 million GLORIOUS bats. HA HA HA.

Choices, choices! (5, Funny)

ar1550 (544991) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520040)

Damn, do I spend my recently acquired $70 million inheritance to buy Sealand, or this castle?

Re:Choices, choices! (5, Funny)

datafr0g (831498) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520060)

Get the castle. Dating back to 1337 it must have a totally 1337 basement!

Re:Choices, choices! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17520332)

Except, if you don't misread the date in TFA, it actually dates back to 1377. Oh well.

Re:Choices, choices! (3, Funny)

JustOK (667959) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520918)

That's the old English spelling.

Re:Choices, choices! (1)

SeaFox (739806) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520614)

No! Buy Sealand! Forget the 14 century basement, how many people get to say that they have their own private country? Now THAT will attract the ladies!

Re:Choices, choices! (5, Funny)

astromog (866411) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520130)

It's a castle, right? It must have been built to defend against aggressors. So buy the castle and declare it an independant state. All the benefits of Sealand (except fishing), but with better views and less rusting.

Re:Choices, choices! (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520974)

It's a castle, right? It must have been built to defend against aggressors.

Yes, but so was Sealand.

Re:Choices, choices! (1)

huffer (710052) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521034)

The thing is you can't declare secession - it's against the Constitution
But it's nice to think like that!

Re:Choices, choices! (2, Funny)

Zork the Almighty (599344) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520478)

Just think, with $140M you could buy both, and move the castle TO Sealand. How cool would that be ?

£40 Million? (5, Funny)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520056)

Real Estate salesman: Wow, we don't see many vampires around here.
Vampire: Yeah well, at these prices you won't see many more.

Long gone (1)

len_p (782308) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520134)

Surely there are no vampires there, as I recently spent a night just in the proximity of the castle [www.len.ro] and I wake up much more revigorated than usual. Anyway, nice surroundings for a castle.

Re:Long gone (1)

bhima (46039) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520386)

What else is there to do over that way? I was just looking into booking an overnight train to spend a long weekend there.

Re:Long gone (2, Informative)

len_p (782308) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520568)

You could eat [www.len.ro] and sleep. Last week there was also 1m of snow so access might be somehow difficult to some remote parts.

Re:Long gone (1)

bhima (46039) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520938)

That is just not fair... I just ate lunch at the canteen at work and it sucked.

However at least they have snow, there isn't much around here... which makes for generally cranky Austrians

Re:Long gone (2, Funny)

mangu (126918) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521374)

I recently spent a night just in the proximity of the castle and I wake up much more revigorated than usual


How did you expect to feel? You are now immortal! Stay off the sunlight, though, either that or wear that ultra-extra-super-strength sunblock.

Re:Long gone (1, Funny)

kv9 (697238) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521430)

Surely there are no vampires there, as I recently spent a night just in the proximity of the castle and I wake up much more revigorated than usual.

maybe it sucked your dick.

Vlad's Tower (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17520074)

I hope the new owner knows how to tell which amulet is which.

Re:Vlad's Tower (1)

indigoid (3724) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520136)

I've only ever got that far in wizmode :-( which of course doesn't count. sans-wiz I've made it to the castle and no further.

Re:Vlad's Tower (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17520698)

Vlad's a well-known wimp anyway. Anyone could beat him with a candy bar.

Roommates? (4, Funny)

Aqua OS X (458522) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520094)

Who wants to go in on a castle?

Ideal roommates should be able to appreciate trap doors, suits of armor used used for conversation pieces, abandoned rooms with misc furniture covered in white sheets, pictures of aristocrats with the eyes cut out (for spying), rotating bookshelfs, and indie rock.

No dogs.
No smokers.
Weed is ok.

Re:Roommates? (4, Funny)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520166)

I imagine old castles suck.

Plumbing problems, roof problems, heating issues.

Normal bills are probably a real bitch. Special "one-time" maintenance is surly out-of-this-world.

I have no idea what Romanian property taxes are like... You think Vampires suck - you don't want to see the local Tax authority.

So, if you are handy, with a strong back, you might make a good roommate/co-investor. Speaking Romanian probably wouldn't hurt.

Is broadband available there (at that specific castle)?

I'll pass.

Re:Roommates? (4, Informative)

imsabbel (611519) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520342)

The father of a colleque of mine bought a castle a decade ago. For 1 DM at that time.

Its a lot smaller than this particular one, but after a decade of rebuilding and fixing stuff, its still only maybe 25% finished. They ARE a bitch to keep warm (and to keep water out). But they make an impressive party-place.

unfortunately (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17520178)

The reality tends to be a lot less exciting.

Re:Roommates? (4, Funny)

Datamonstar (845886) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520190)

Okay, who's the wise guy who keeps hiding all these hearts behind my candles?

Re:Roommates? (1)

Andrew Kismet (955764) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520290)

And some of them drop $1000!

sweet (4, Funny)

Danga (307709) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520144)

All I can say is if I had 77 million lying around I would love to pick this castle up. I could get so many more chicks: "come back to my castle... of love"

What chick wouldn't want to go back to a castle? Of love?

Re:sweet (1)

Datamonstar (845886) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520170)

What chick wouldn't want to go back to a castle? Of love?
Oh, I dunno... one that wants to keep her blood?

Re:sweet (5, Insightful)

gDoDig (674307) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520286)

If you had 77 million, you wouldn't need a castle to get chicks. :))

Re:sweet (1)

Danga (307709) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520326)

Good point. But just having a castle would be sweet!

Re:sweet (5, Informative)

sa1lnr (669048) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520762)

If you had chicks, you wouldn't have 77 million for long. ;)

Re:sweet (1)

dr_d_19 (206418) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521000)

On the other hand, you might need a castle do defend yourself against the vast armies of chicks going after you!

Re:sweet (1)

antdude (79039) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521732)

Why would you want young birds? [grin]

Stone walls vs. ductwork. (4, Insightful)

Animats (122034) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520156)

Putting in heating, ventilating, and air conditioning will be a tough job. I know someone who converted an old stone barn, and that was a major project, even with substantial spending.

Re:Stone walls vs. ductwork. (1)

gijoel (628142) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520602)

Yeah but the dead don't need A/C

There's only one catch... (4, Funny)

camperdave (969942) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520182)

Sure you can buy Dracula's castle, but there's one catch. You have to spend the night there.

For rich people only? (1, Insightful)

Max Romantschuk (132276) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520186)

Ironically, it would probably be more lucrative to buy property in something like Second Life than a castle like this. The castle is cool as hell, but the location is not very convenient.

Re:For rich people only? (1)

nacturation (646836) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520464)

Ironically, it would probably be more lucrative to buy property in something like Second Life than a castle like this. The castle is cool as hell, but the location is not very convenient.
Nor is your suggestion. I mean, it's not like my name is Thomas Anderson or something.
 

Re:For rich people only? (1)

Pesh Hawksfire (928893) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520544)

As opposed to all those middle class and blue-collar folks with $77 Million lying around?

Re:For rich people only? (1)

Max Romantschuk (132276) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520648)

As opposed to all those middle class and blue-collar folks with $77 Million lying around?

I meant that most people don't have 77 mil to spend without expecting to get something back. If the place would be likely to generate money a suitable organization coult probably get funding for developing it. As it stands now its pretty much only the people who have 77 mil spend, as opposed to invest.

Re:For rich people only? (1)

packeteer (566398) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520730)

Actually it is a tourist attraction making 4 millions euros a year in profit. Thats almost $8 million a year. The only people who are gonig to buy it are people who are going to run it as an attraction.

Re:For rich people only? (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521056)

4 millions euros a year in profit. Thats almost $8 million a year.

The dollar hasn't fallen THAT low yet.

Re:For rich people only? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17521238)

Yet.

I disagree (1)

patio11 (857072) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520868)

I think it is equally a waste of your money to buy this castle or $70 million worth of property in Second Life. However, if you were looking less for lucre and more for a sadomasochistic vampire to have all manner of unholy relations with you, then I'd heartily recommend Second Life. And if the translyvanian atmosphere isn't quite complete without a werewolf, well, they've got all manner of furry creatures ready to meet you.

Re:For rich people only? (1)

caluml (551744) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521190)

Romania joined the EU on 2007-01-01. There'll be a good few hundred million people at the end of a cheap 2 hour flight from it in a few months (once Easyjet/Ryanair get regular flights there).

Sounds pretty convenient to me.

Re:For rich people only? (1)

smoker2 (750216) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521284)

Romania joined the EU on 2007-01-01. There'll be a good few hundred million people at the end of a cheap 2 hour flight from it in a few months (once Easyjet/Ryanair get regular flights there).
Them joining the EU is irrelevant. It's not like there's been a blockade on travel to Romania.

My only concern (2, Funny)

Nichotin (794369) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520234)

If I become the Lord of this castle, will Simon Belmont come and whack me with that nasty whip thingie he is carrying around?

Re:My only concern (2, Funny)

foo12 (585116) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520404)

If I become the Lord of this castle, will Simon Belmont come and whack me with that nasty whip thingie he is carrying around? No. That's extra.

Re:My only concern (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521068)

Man, it's 2007. You'd get whacked by Julius Belmont.

Re:My only concern (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17521618)

I think the true question for anyone willing to buy the castle is, does it contain a miserable little pile of secrets?

Do the math... (4, Insightful)

Telcontar (819) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520314)

Certainly nobody will buy this castle for making a profit. Do the math: 40 million pounds have to be spent. People pay 2.40 per entry. Thus you need 16.7 million entries to cover the acquisition costs (assuming the 450,000 visitors a year are all adults, a bit optimistic). Using this figure, it takes 37 years to pay off the initial investment - ignoring costs for running the castle, such as ongoing repairs, staff, etc.

Still, it would be cool to have that castle and enjoy eternal night life...

Re:Do the math... (1)

Magic Fingers (1001498) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520410)

Once its mine, i will increase the pay per entry $$$

Re:Do the math... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17520422)

Yeah, because you'd turn down having to wait 37 years to make 40 million plus inevitable rise in property value?

Re:Do the math... (1)

CmdrGravy (645153) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520492)

As someone pointed out above the castle makes 10 Million Euros a year and spends 6 Million on expenses so even if you paid back the 40 Million for repairs etc over 20 years you'd still be making a profit of 2 Million a year.

Re:Do the math... (1)

Bloke down the pub (861787) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521388)

If you can get an interest free loan and/or there's no other use you could have put the money to.

Re:Do the math... (4, Interesting)

nacturation (646836) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520522)

Certainly nobody will buy this castle for making a profit. Do the math: 40 million pounds have to be spent. People pay 2.40 per entry. Thus you need 16.7 million entries to cover the acquisition costs (assuming the 450,000 visitors a year are all adults, a bit optimistic). Using this figure, it takes 37 years to pay off the initial investment - ignoring costs for running the castle, such as ongoing repairs, staff, etc.
 
Still, it would be cool to have that castle and enjoy eternal night life...
Speaking of eternal night life, here's an even better idea. Every night throw a wild and massive party. Cover charge is 100 Euro per person. 500 Euro gets you your own room to host your own mini-party in true bacchanalian fashion. Or 2500 Euro gets you the dungeon for the evening. On Friday and Saturday, tasteful in-period costumes are mandatory (vampires okay, clowns not okay... rent 'em at the door if you forgot yours). It's like Disney Land but for mature audiences only. Have live DJ competitions where the audience votes and the top prize for the winning DJ is 10% of the take from cover charges or something like that.

It'd be a hell of a blast until it gets shut down for some please-think-of-the-children reason.
 

Re:Do the math... (1, Troll)

delinear (991444) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520732)

It'd be a hell of a blast until it gets shut down for some please-think-of-the-children reason.

It's in Romania - all the children are either in orphanages or sweatshops.

Re:Do the math... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17520754)

Drink your coffee, maybe you'll stop confusing stuff.

The Romanian property market (1)

Colin Smith (2679) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520530)

Expected to increase in value more than tenfold over the next 10-15 years. They've just joined the EU you see.

So, even accounting for some inflation by the current owners, anyone who can afford to buy this place is almost certain to make a bundle.
 

Re:The Romanian property market (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521616)

> They've just joined the EU you see.

Yes, that was the last hurdle I was waiting for. Well, unless Yemen joins the EU in the next couple of weeks. Really I'd rather live there...

Re:Do the math... (1)

teslar (706653) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520928)

Certainly nobody will buy this castle for making a profit
Dude, whoever can just blow that amount of spare cash on a castle without blinking doesn't need to make profits ;)

Re:Do the math... (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521018)

Dude, whoever can just blow that amount of spare cash on a castle without blinking doesn't need to make profits ;)

Sure you do. Well, okay. Not to live, but once you get that rich, money becomes a way of keeping score.

Re:Do the math... (1)

Morgahastu (522162) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521070)

don't forget the memorabilia most visitors will buy.

Meat in the walls (4, Funny)

metal slime (825519) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520336)

I only have one question. If I buy it can I get fully cooked meat out of the walls by destroying certain blocks?

Dracula's Castle? Since when? (3, Informative)

KaylaVincent (1048788) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520340)

Well, the castle has little to do with Vlad Tepes, actually. As for Bram Stocker, there's an idea he mostly drew his inspiration from the actions of Elizabeth Bathory. :) You should look more into the subject of this castle. It is beautiful, indeed, but you would really have the wrong expectations of it. Here's the story for those interested in this topic :
http://wordsofabrokenmirror.blogspot.com/2006/09/b reaking-dracula-myth.html [blogspot.com]

Re:Dracula's Castle? Since when? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17521448)

Nice blog, and she's really cute, too.

yummy (-1, Flamebait)

locksmith101 (1017864) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520348)

77 million dollars for a castle in Romania? I guess it would cost less to build a replica in someplace that's nicer - like Brazil. Who wants to live in Romania?

Re:yummy (2)

sigpwr (977270) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520434)

just the 22 million people of this country ...

Re:yummy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17520452)

I guess most of them were'nt asked I they'd like to be born there...

Re:yummy (2, Insightful)

CmdrGravy (645153) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520514)

Romania is a nice place to live and now it's in the EU and will no doubt have a lot more money pumped into it I imagine it will become even nicer.

Its certainly a lot closer than Brazil as well, a £40 plane journey I believe.

I vaaant... (1, Redundant)

dangitman (862676) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520394)

... to suck your dollars.

Re:I vaaant... (1)

Danga (307709) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520480)

if you had said you wanted to suck anything else you would have had a deal... well as long as you are female anyway. :-)

Re:I vaaant... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17520638)

My dick told me it hasn't got any eyes so a mouth's a mouth.

information for potential buyers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17520420)

This should reduce the price of the castle by a few mil :

Bran Castle is often referred to as "Dracula's Castle." This designation is a bit of a misnomer, for there is apparently no evidence that it was ever owned, lived in or visited by Vlad Tepes (although he may have stayed there on occasion in his travels between Tirgoviste and Brasov). The castle is definitely linked to Vlad, however, in that his grandfather, Mircea the Great, was one of its first owners. The castle also certainly represents a significant architectural and historical landmark.

sources :

http://www.donlinke.com/drakula/vlad/photos.htm [donlinke.com]

The Ruins at Poenari (Vlad's real castle)

http://www.draculascastle.com/html/poenari.html [draculascastle.com]

RUBBISH (1)

W33B (901545) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520446)

Bram Stoker gained his inspiration from Slain's castle in Aberdeenshire, Scotland.

From Wiki: "Stoker's inspiration for the story was a visit to Slains Castle near Aberdeen. The bleak spot provided an excellent backdrop for his creation."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_Stoker [wikipedia.org]

so there...

Every Romanian castle is "Dracula's Castle" (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17520516)

I've been to a few, and they were all advertised as being "the real one". The joke among Romanians is apparently that every castle over there belonged to some Vlad this or that, and because that Bram Stoker has never been to Romania, there is no problem in claiming that it is Dracula's castle

Been to Bran and the real Castle too (4, Interesting)

seamus_waldron (304343) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520606)

The Castle in Bran *looks* the part. If Disney were to make a real castle, it would look like this. It is well located for access by train from all over the country. I'm not sure it would be a good investment as their door policy isn't exactly difficult to skip around.

Anyway, the castle at Poenari is the real deal, though it is difficult to get there. You have to climb up a very steep mountain side to actually get to the castle, sometimes you are watched by armed guards protecting a nearby Hydro plant or something. The guys had guns, I didn't ask. This castle really was the home of Vlad the Impaler and the slope you climb to reach it once had the decapetated heads of his victims strewn across it on spikes.

The castle itself is actually very small and nobody is ever going to make moey selling tours there (hence Bran is where the tours are sent). It is spooky and very, very cool. It is perched on a teeny tiny outcropping from the mountain and is a really fantastic experience , as I recounted here many years ago http://www.apj.co.uk/tales/vlad.htm#vlad [apj.co.uk] .

Re:Been to Bran and the real Castle too (1)

gafisher (865473) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520968)

"If Disney were to make a real castle, it would look like this."
It would also be done in a more convenient location, cost less than $77M, and be profitable within two years.

Re:Been to Bran and the real Castle too (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521106)

If Disney were to make a real castle, it would look like this.

Real castle as opposed to a facade like Neuschwanstein [wikipedia.org] ?

Not for sale either (2, Informative)

KaylaVincent (1048788) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520814)

Quote from Hotnews.ro, a Romanian news site:
The local authorities of the Brasov county will buy the world-famous Bran Castle for 60 million euro and will get the money by leasing with a 10-year loan from an Austrian bank. The move comes eight months after the rightful owner of the castle, now known as "Dracula's castle", Dominic Habsburg, got it back in a retrocession process.

Wikipedia doubts legacy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17520822)

Wikipedia points out that Bran Castle's ties to Vlad are weak and disputed
In other news, Bran Castle folks point out that most of Wikipedia's information is weak and disputed. Jimbo was also invited to take the midnight tour and have a bite with the Count later.

The real Dracula's Castle (1)

Filmcell-Keyrings (973083) | more than 7 years ago | (#17520992)

It's Slains Castle in Aberdeenshire, Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slains_Castle [wikipedia.org]
This is the castle that inspired the castle in Bram Stoker's Dracula
This is just some casle in Romania that looks like it might have been Dracula's

I have been to this castle (1)

mikehilly (653401) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521462)

For $77 Mil you can get a much nicer place with a much better location. Sure it is a pretty sweet place. Torture rooms and all that fun history, but in terms of size and functionality it isn't really a great deal. The "master bedroom" is about the same size as a normal master bedroom. The plumbing situation is NOT good. Another reason not to purchase it as a main/vacation home is that the locals play off the tourism thing a LOT. Those gypsy women can be nasty if you take away from of their income.

If you do visit, go in the fall as the foliage is absolutely wonderful. There is another castle somewhat close by that is worth visiting. One of the most expensive castles ever built (adjusting for inflation) I believe it was built in the late 19th century. Probably Peles Castle on this list http://www.romaniatourism.com/castles.html [romaniatourism.com] . I don't remember that castle as much since it was 9 years since my visit to Romania.

I've just visited this place (3, Interesting)

cozziewozzie (344246) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521562)

...a week ago.

It is really beautiful, and the surrounding village of Bran is extremely nice. The caste is quite small, but very nice, with small corridors, winding stairs, inner terraces and balconies, even a secret passage from Queen's room to King's room. All asymmetric, you can easily get lost in there. The entire thing is in mint condition, but heating in the winter must be a bitch.

As can traffic. A few hours after we left, the whole village got snowed in, and thousands of tourists couldn't leave as the roads were buried in half a metre of snow.

Rats, rats, rats ... (1)

QuatermassX (808146) | more than 7 years ago | (#17521752)

... thousands of them ... MILLIONS of them! At least that's what the estate agent, RM Renfield, had to say when I rang him about this the other day. They also have a delightful property called Carfax Abbey over in Purfleet.
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