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Bezos and O'Reilly 2.0

CmdrTaco posted more than 7 years ago | from the it's-sweet-that-they-found-each-other dept.

Businesses 16

theodp writes "Looks like Jeff Bezos and Tim O'Reilly are investing together again, and this time it has nothing to do with patent reform. In Bezos Goes Web 2.0 Wild, Private Equity Week's Alexander Haislip reports that Explore Holdings, which as of late has been doing business as Bezos Expeditions, is one of 19 investors that have pumped $34.3M into O'Reilly AlphaTech Ventures."

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16 comments

Not the best investment (0, Troll)

RickRussellTX (755670) | more than 7 years ago | (#17790128)

Perhaps Mr. Bezos should spend more time working for Amazon.com. They used to be the best, but now they are a barely maintained database of discontinued products with bad specs and irrelevant search results.

Re:Not the best investment (3, Insightful)

William_Lee (834197) | more than 7 years ago | (#17790160)

Perhaps Mr. Bezos should spend more time working for Amazon.com. They used to be the best, but now they are a barely maintained database of discontinued products with bad specs and irrelevant search results.

Care to provide evidence of this before you're modded down by someone else into the depths of troll hell?

Re:Not the best investment (4, Interesting)

RickRussellTX (755670) | more than 6 years ago | (#17791474)

Fine, mod me into obscurity for my opinions.

My point is that I wouldn't trust Jeff Bezos to find the best tech investments, because his own company is doing a such a poor job of maintaining their own database, even in their core business. Do a search on something as simple as a book title (say, "War of the Worlds") then try and wade through the bizarre results. Of the top 5, one of them is actually a paperback copy of H. G. Wells' _The War of the Worlds_. Two of them are peripherally related (an illustrated version and a collection of short stories that includes it, I guess), and two results are not related in any way. In fact, most of the search results are for books on World War II, with copies of _The War of the Worlds_ buried in the search results.

Can I sort by book title? No. Can I exclude books with the wrong title? No. Can I sort by availability? No. Sort by author? No. Can I put quotes around the title and do an exact text search? No. Even in its core business, Amazon's site is only passable. And things haven't really changed or improved since the late 90s. I mean, what kind of book store doesn't let you search by author?

Search for CDs, for DVDs -- all the same problems. Get out of those core areas, and things get MUCH worse. Dozens of "unavailable" entries mixed into the search returns, bad specs listed for products, etc.

In summary, I don't think that Mr. Bezos would recognize a Web 2.0 application if it walked up and smacked him in the ear. I imagine he's a fine person, but I wouldn't take his investment advice for Web companies. He can't keep his own house in order.

Re:Not the best investment (2, Informative)

tcopeland (32225) | more than 6 years ago | (#17792210)

> I don't think that Mr. Bezos would
> recognize a Web 2.0 application

On the other hand, Amazon is doing a bunch of innovative things, like the Simple Storage Service (S3). We're using S3 for indi [getindi.com] (with encryption, of course), and it's very, very handy; it keeps us from having to build out a big storage infrastructure.

There's also the Elastic Computing Cloud (EC2) they're doing. I was at a Rails Edge conference last week and James Duncan Davidson [duncandavidson.com] did a nifty presentation on deploying Rails apps. The really neat thing, though, was that he deployed it to an EC2 machine rather than a local directory or even a local VMWare instance. Very cool stuff.

Awesome (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17790278)

So you have something that will blow the doors off of Amazon?

And you have the billions to compete against O'Reilly and Bezo?

Or are you just spouting off like so many back seat drivers here who knock anything that is not pushing the Windows standard?

Or perhaps you are busy investing your Billions into cutting edge tech such as Space, Genetics, or Medical?

Oh Please, do tell us all about yourself. I am quite sure that nobody here will say anything negative about you

Re:Not the best investment (4, Informative)

CRCulver (715279) | more than 7 years ago | (#17790282)

Perhaps Mr. Bezos should spend more time working for Amazon.com. They used to be the best, but now they are a barely maintained database of discontinued products with bad specs and irrelevant search results.

Amazon is still the best bookstore for in-print books. Since books don't have "specs" (except things like page number and dimensions, which I've never seen screwed up), I suppose you are bitching about electronics. Well, Amazon's core mission is books. Just because they branched out into other areas which weren't as successful doesn't mean that they suck entirely.

As for out of print books, often one can still order them through the "Used and new..." listings of third-party sellers. But even with a product is not available through any avenue on the site, I'd still prefer that Amazon list them. Why? Because people can review them, and give you an idea of whether you want to search for the book in more obscure venues. To take one example, I've recently discovered that Amazon lists the original Danish publications of Pia Tafdrup's poetry. A book like Tusindfoedt [amazon.com] isn't available for order in the U.S., but I'm currently writing a review that will tell people this book is so good that it's well worth ordering it from Tafdrup's publishers Gyldendal in Denmark

O'Reilly 2.0 (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17790162)

The no spin zone with AJAX and semantic tags.

Re:O'Reilly 2.0 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#17792812)

The No Spin Zone *

* Zone may include traces of spin.

Hype 2.0 (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17790168)

The really advanced stuff is really obscure and really subtle. Not something cool hunters are likely to pick up on. Move along. Nothing to see here.

Re:Hype 2.0 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17797476)

Are there any examples of that? Like a link that opens a popup window?

submission reads like stockspam (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17790414)


because [dotcommillionaire] invests millions it must be good

Benzos and O'Reilly? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17790980)

That's what I read at first...I was hoping it would turn out like Hydros and Limbaugh.

Two of them? (2, Funny)

dangitman (862676) | more than 7 years ago | (#17793898)

Dang it, isn't one Bill O'Reilly already too many?

Unperson 2.0 (2, Insightful)

BillGatesLoveChild (1046184) | more than 7 years ago | (#17796338)

Jeff Bezos won't care, but what about Tim O'Reilly when he discovers a story about him on Slashdot only got 14 posts?

BTW, Bezos is a "Red" (1)

doom (14564) | more than 7 years ago | (#17819994)

If it matters to you, Bezos is clearly a "Red" (i.e. Republican)... (I find that most Amazon customers don't seem to know this).

If you examine the buyblue.org data for political contributions by bookstores [buyblue.org] , you'll see that Amazon is a solidly republican company, as opposed to Barnes and Nobels, which is solidly Democratic.

Notably, Borders makes no political contributions at all.

And myself, I try to shop at Stacey's [staceysbooks.com] , an independant San Francisco store that, while a rather large place, appears to be too small for buyblue.org to bother to report on them.

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