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RIAA Wins Worst Company In America 2007

CowboyNeal posted more than 7 years ago | from the best-of-the-worst dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 306

An anonymous reader writes "After 15 punishing rounds of combat involving 32 of America's most hated companies, 100,000 voters have spoken: More hated than Halliburton, more despised than Walmart, the RIAA has defeated all comers to become the Worst Company in America 2007."

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I Demand a Recount (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18453995)

Ok, just in case RIAA demands a recount, I've selected the final 8, and added 2 from the final 16 that were "close calls."

This is a poll:
Worst Company In America - 2007

Verizon [impoll.net]
U-Haul [impoll.net]
Sony [impoll.net]
Exxon [impoll.net]
Clear Channel [impoll.net]
Halliburton [impoll.net]
RIAA [impoll.net]
Walmart [impoll.net]
Comcast [impoll.net]
Best Buy [impoll.net]

Re:I Demand a Recount (1)

CokeBear (16811) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454111)

Exxon or Haliburton, tough call...

Re:I Demand a Recount (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454243)

It should be interesting to see slashdotters' take on this... so far it looks to be consistent with the other poll... but perhaps that will change with time.

If you have mod points, mod parent up so we can get more votes and see better results.

what about... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454013)

Cowboy Neal Corp? That's always an option...

Since when is the RIAA a company? (4, Insightful)

phlegmofdiscontent (459470) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454029)

I thought they were an anarcho-fascist commune....

Re:Since when is the RIAA a company? (5, Funny)

TheDreadSlashdotterD (966361) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454103)

Yeah, a company.

Re:Since when is the RIAA a company? (5, Funny)

bigstrat2003 (1058574) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454233)

No, they're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. They take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week. But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting.

Re:Since when is the RIAA a company? (1, Insightful)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454303)

The RIAA isn't a company. It's a trade association.

Re:Since when is the RIAA a company? (5, Insightful)

Dun Malg (230075) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454519)

The RIAA isn't a company. It's a trade association.
An arbitrary distinction. They are incorporated in New York, so they are as much a corporation as any other. The fact that their entire customer base consists of a small clique of recording industry companies is wholly irrelevant. They are merely the non-profit* collective "beard" of their members, allowing them to pawn off their dirty work on a faceless third party.

* their lobbying efforts alone make their non-profit status pretty hard to justify under 501(c)(3)

Re:Since when is the RIAA a company? (1)

seaniqua (796818) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454561)

By god, if I had mod points, I'd find a way to mod this up to +5.

Re:Since when is the RIAA a company? (5, Informative)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454625)

* their lobbying efforts alone make their non-profit status pretty hard to justify under 501(c)(3)
But they are not registered as a 501(c)3.

501(c)3 is a designation for non-profits to whom personal donations are tax-deductible; there are many, many non-profits that do not fall under this category. Under federal tax law, a business may still deduct donations to a lobbying non-profit as business expenses, if the lobbying is in support of the business interests of the business -- personal contributions, however, aren't exempt.

Yet another way the corporations and their crony legislators have reinforced their domination of the legislative process.

They beat out Micro$oft?? (-1, Troll)

Ichthus777 (1037294) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454035)

Well, I guess they would have to beat out Micro$oft for worst company, if only because Micro$oft is the most secure company in America... they must be the most beloved too!

Re:They beat out Micro$oft?? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454223)

I hate you for using $ instead of S..

comcast (2, Interesting)

deopmix (965178) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454039)

Why wasn't Comcast in the poll. I would have voted them all the way.

Re:comcast (4, Informative)

rayde (738949) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454095)

um, sony beat them in the first round [consumerist.com]

Re:comcast (1)

deopmix (965178) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454137)

Oh god, I looked at it 3 times and missed them every time.

Re:comcast (1)

cyclopropene (777291) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454387)

I can't understand why UHaul beat BestBuy...

Re:comcast (5, Interesting)

MetalPhalanx (1044938) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454461)

When I went to move out of the previous apartment I lived in, I rented a Uhaul truck. We arranged the details two weeks in advance, and they promised it would be set up.

When my parents arrived at the uhaul rental place to pick up our large truck, they had none on the lot, and informed us that the nearest one was roughly 200km away, in the opposite direction from where I needed to go. They offered us a trailer that was 1/3rd the size as the best they could do.

So here I am on moving day, with nowhere to store my stuff, no truck to put it in, and no other options. By a strange fluke of luck I managed to get the landlord of my new apartment let me move in a day early, and we just ferried it over.

I'd say that's why Uhaul is worse. If Best Buy fucks up, you just have to wait a little while longer (I'm sure someone will have a story to prove me wrong, but whatever). But if Uhaul fucks you around on moving day, you're boned.

Re:comcast (3, Interesting)

Idbar (1034346) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454777)

That's their business model: They make you believe you have a reservation, then you have to go around all the rental places trying to find one.

I had the same problem with them.

Re:comcast (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454097)

Ummmmmmmmm

Round 3: Comcast vs Sony

Re:comcast (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454141)

They were, Sony eliminated them in the first round.

Re:comcast (1)

ILuvRamen (1026668) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454371)

R U kidding me? AOL blows them away. I've used comcast and it is hell on Earth but AOL takes hell to a whole new dimension lol.

Re:comcast (2, Funny)

Kristoph (242780) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454409)

If it makes you feel better, Comcast was the second most hated company in round 1.

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has anyone ever had a good shopping experience (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454047)

... at Best Buy?

Just wondering.

Re:has anyone ever had a good shopping experience (3, Interesting)

lavid (1020121) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454085)

Yes, about 7 years ago, maybe more (years, not times). I got an open box printer there for $20, the thing still prints great and takes inkjet refills. This was before you could get printers FAR and such. This was also when you walked uphill both ways to wherever you were going.

Re:has anyone ever had a good shopping experience (1)

dheera (1003686) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454091)

yes, i have... when i got a bunch of stuff that had rebates equal to their cost. free stuff is always good.

Re:has anyone ever had a good shopping experience (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454105)

Best Buy never manufactured evidence to sue my dead grandfather, so yeah, by comparison, they're pretty decent.

Re:has anyone ever had a good shopping experience (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454131)

You know, the one near me isn't so bad. I like to do research ahead of time and then just go in, grab something off the shelf, pay cash for it, and leave. Doing that is easy at Best Buy and I've never been hassled about extended warranty plans or anything. They have a good selection of stuff right on the shelf, available to shoppers.

Our local Comp USA is a nightmare in comparison. Want to buy, I dunno, a simple thing like an LCD monitor? You have to fill out a form and practically hand over your first born child before they will even drag a box out for you from the innards of their storage area, and then they try to push the extended warranty on you incessantly. It's disgusting - no such thing as a quick anonymous cash and carry there.

Re:has anyone ever had a good shopping experience (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454171)

Yes, all the time. But I have never purchased a big-ticket item; the most expensive thing I've bought is like a $100 router. I usually get all my tech stuff from Newegg, but sometimes either I can't wait for the it to ship or it's something simple like cabling that doesn't cost that much extra locally. Plus Best Buy is literally right down the block from me, so it's actually quite convenient. I will say that, just like every fucking grocery store I've ever been to in my entire fucking life, there are never enough registers open. Jesus Fucking Christ. Why in the motherfucking fuck would you install 16 fucking registers if you are only going to staff fucking 2 of them, you fucking fucks!

Re:has anyone ever had a good shopping experience (1)

gregleimbeck (975759) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454429)

Agreed, I really don't understand the gripe about Best Buy. I know anything that I buy at Best Buy I can get online cheaper, but sometimes I just like to go to a store, pick up some DVD's, and browse through a few other things.

For example, I bought my last TV from Newegg, but I wanted to see it in person before I made a purchase. No one really pushed me to make a sale at Best Buy, but they still answered any questions I had even though I told them I didn't want to buy it from Best Buy.

There is a Fry's right down the street, they have a lot more computer hardware and generally a much larger selection, but I really only go there if I want to see something in person. The DVD prices are crap and all of the "tech" salespeople sport an A+ certification (which ranks somewhere between tying your shoe laces and not choking to death on your drool in the universal spectrum of skills, but knowing that you are "1337")

Re:has anyone ever had a good shopping experience (1)

Volante3192 (953645) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454215)

Yep. I go in, browse either the dvd section or nintendo section (or the rare occassion, the computer accessories section), get what I want, pay and leave.

Never bought a big ticket item there though, so that might be different.

Good Shopping Experience at Best Buy (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454269)

Yes, I did. The day I found a nice little MP3 player marked on the shelf price tag at $29.99 and when I got to the register, they wanted $99 for it, so I raised a stink and asked for the manager. He immediately removed the price tag off the shelf and said it was now $99 so I pulled out my cellphone and told him I worked for a local newspaper (a lie :-) ) and said that I already sent photos of the price tag on the shelf to my editor and the story would be printed on the 3rd page of the next Sunday paper. He then nervously pulled all remaining stock off the shelf and sold me the player at $29.99 like the original price tag said. I went home with my new MP3 player and a smile on my face.

Re:has anyone ever had a good shopping experience (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454367)

I bought some stuff there at a decent price once.

No different than any other store.

Re:has anyone ever had a good shopping experience (1)

phlegmofdiscontent (459470) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454437)

This appears to be a common theme. I have a good shopping experience at Best Buy (or anywhere) when I walk in, find the stuff I want right away, grab the stuff I want, pay for the stuff I want, and not
to talk to anyone (except for maybe flirting with the cute cashier).

This is so amazing (-1, Offtopic)

lavid (1020121) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454049)

I know this will get modded down. But seeing this makes me so damn happy.

Thank you for your time.

Re:This is so amazing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454345)

Why the hell would you get modded down? It seems to be pretty standard among /.ers that the RIAA == Satan.

Results may already be dated. (3, Insightful)

niktemadur (793971) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454071)

As much as the RIAA has stirred up resentment for attempting to keep the status quo at all costs, including alienating the record buyer, I pretty sure that this poll was done before Halliburton announced that they're moving their headquarters to Dubai.

Re:Results may already be dated. (5, Informative)

grommit (97148) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454235)

It wasn't. If you bothered to click on the link in the summary and scanned down the page a bit, you would have seen the message about Halliburton moving it's HQ to Dubai just before Round 13.

Unrelated to your post but I'm too lazy to create another post of my own: It's funny how 100,000+ voteS in the actual article turns into 100,000+ voteRS in the Slashdot summary. It seems that the highest number of individual voters in any single round was around 23,000. That's a pretty small sample size but considering that the people who frequent The Consumerist seem to be at least a bit more educated about consumer issues than your regular joe perhaps these votes count for a bit more than a poll that reached more people and got more numbers.

Re:Results may already be dated. (1)

wizzahd (995765) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454391)

people who frequent The Consumerist seem to be at least a bit more educated about consumer issues than your regular joe perhaps these votes count for a bit more than a poll that reached more people and got more numbers
I completely agree. Many people I talk to don't even know what the RIAA is, much less that they're out to shaft every one of them.

Re:Results may already be dated. (1)

Khaed (544779) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454273)

I don't know that the average American gives two shits about where Halliburton is HQed.

Re:Results may already be dated. (1)

mh101 (620659) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454703)

I don't... For that matter, I don't even know what Halliburton is.

Re:Results may already be dated. (1)

LBArrettAnderson (655246) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454275)

see this comment [slashdot.org] to get current results.

stolen music vs corruption (1, Insightful)

fowkswe (724293) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454083)

if you think about it, the riaa is just trying to protect its intellectual property. isnt halliburton guilty of a far worse crime to humanity?

It's "most hated" not "most evil" (5, Insightful)

Xenographic (557057) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454239)

> the riaa is just trying to protect its intellectual property.

No, they're not "just" trying to do that. They've manipulated the law to their own ends and complain whenever people decry that as unfair. They sue innocent people, attempting to ruin their lives. And if they do find out that someone's innocent, they use discovery to invade the innocent person's life, looking to find the real infringer. Which might well be them, after they have MediaSentry flood the P2P networks with bogus files and bogus search data (including the very searches they use to find "infringers"!) And if you insist upon corruption, just what do you call payola? Are bribes not considered corruption these days, or what?

Now, don't get me wrong--Halliburton isn't exactly some nice company, either. But this is "most hated" not "most evil" and the RIAA has gotten a lot more press lately.

But please, don't say they're "just" trying to protect their "property" because there's no way in hell I'll buy that lame excuse.

Re:stolen music vs corruption (2)

hax0r_this (1073148) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454247)

Haliburton = trying to make money with a successful business model (corruption). RIAA = trying to make money with an unsuccessful business model (a different variety of corruption). Who voted? Consumers. Which company is worse for consumers? Take a look at the results and find out.

Re:stolen music vs corruption (4, Insightful)

wile_e_wonka (934864) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454265)

Here's how I view it--these big corporations with lots of IP and money to spend traditionally have fought hard over seemingly small IP issues. It's much like a game it seems, with one company choosing to infringe a little bit on another company's IP knowing ahead of time how it's going to argue in court, and then the court irons things out. There are tons of example of this, and the reason is because it adds up to millions of dollars. And it really is much like a game to these companies--"let's see what I can get away with."

The problem is that the RIAA is now playing the game against regular people who don't have wads of cash to throw at this. They aren't playing the game fair.

I think this is why the RIAA is easily comparable to a bully--they aren't picking on someone their own size.

Re:stolen music vs corruption (5, Insightful)

Dun Malg (230075) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454383)

if you think about it, the riaa is just trying to protect its intellectual property.
See, the problem here is that it isn't their "property". Songs, stories, movies--- once they're publicly released, they belong to all of us. Copyright is an artificial, government created, temporary, limited monopoly on the right to copy these artifacts of our common culture. The fact that the thieving bastards have greased the collective palm of congress to obtain perpetual extensions to the temporary monopoly on copying doesn't change the fact that all that stuff is ours. If you actually educate yourself on the long history of artistic creation and the short history of copyright, you'd understand what an absolute evil is being perpetrated upon us by the bastards claiming ownership of this stuff--- and you'd likely no longer parrot the their "intellectual property" fallacy.

Re:stolen music vs corruption (1)

WingedEarth (958581) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454537)

Halliburton is guilty of war profiteering and possibly of acts that resulted in the deaths of many people in the Middle. This is horrible, it's true. But the RIAA is guilty of the far worse crime of suppressing culture, replacing art with marketing, and otherwise preventing real vision and inspiration from being communicated from artists to the public. The RIAA's business model ensures that most of the public will be economically and legally barred from gaining access to more than a small handful of artists, when mass distribution of all music would not add any costs to the RIAA.

The hypocrisy of the MPAA/RIAA (5, Informative)

BillGatesLoveChild (1046184) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454633)

> the riaa is just trying to protect its intellectual property.

The problem is that IP laws have been so twisted by lobbyists and big business. They seek to profit by taking away our rights. We are supposed to have rights to fair use, fair pricing, and things entering the public domain in a reasonable period, and the artists receiving a fair deal.

But when Mickey Mouse was supposed to enter the public domain, Disney went to the politicans so firmly in their pocket and got them to change the way. Same for the public domain period which congress just keeps setting back and back and back. And the DMCA which was a rights grab and now I can't even watch a DVD I purchased in another country without breaking the law. Some anime series are overpriced: the maker puts 5 episodes on the first DVD, whittling it down to 2 episodes (on a $30 DVD) on the last. Yet this is legal. And while the MPAA and the RIAA hiss and spit about how they're only protecting the authors' rights, they use Hollywood Accounting to rob those very same artists blind. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting [wikipedia.org] And look a the tactics the RIAA shareholders have used to steal royalties off music artists. Recently when someone submitting a movie to the MPAA for ratings, the MPAA made and distributed copies against their wishes, and the court found the MPAA could do what it wants. Their hypocrisy is staggering. We have the absurdity of Adobe, who engineered an incompetant encryption scheme, using the DMCA to throw the guy who exposed them into jail. The DMCA means Macrovision is now by law built into every video device, with the result that my old color TV can't watch new videos. In Australia Channel 9 was fiddling with their digital feed to stop people from copying shows, with the results digital TV sets across the country kept locking up. http://www.smh.com.au/news/home-theatre/case-of-th e-csi-lg-tv-freeze-cracked/2007/03/21/117415312601 5.html [smh.com.au]
The pendulum has clearly swung too far.

Orson Scott Card (Author of "Ender's Game") wrote an excellent essay on this:

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2003-09-07-1 .html [ornery.org]
http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2003-09-14-1 .html [ornery.org]

With today's Internet in place, the RIAA and MPAA and their moneyed up masters would have never come into existence. They're a cartel living off an old business model, with duplicitous congressmen with bulging pockets changing the law at their beckoned call. If you want to know which congressmen have supported it and which ones have fought it, start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA [wikipedia.org]

Gave me a fright (4, Funny)

biocute (936687) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454107)

For a moment I thought RIAA actually won a lawsuit against Microsoft.

They should sue MS (1)

Nick Driver (238034) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454285)

After all, MS software (Windows as the underlying operating system) is used to facilitate like probably 99% of all Internet music piracy.

This isn't a win for us (5, Insightful)

KKlaus (1012919) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454109)

It's not Sony BMG, Warner, etc at the top of the list, it's their front group the RIAA. People hate the RIAA? Guess what, that's exactly what it was created with in mind. Recording companies get to engage in strong-armed consumer-alienating behavior, but dodge the consequences because the "RIAA" is there to take the flak.

So don't call this a victory for us! This is a victory for the record companies, because it shows that they have successfully redirected your wrath to a "company" (I don't know why the summary uses that word) that doesn't have a product, and could care less that you don't like them.

Re:This isn't a win for us (1)

aldo.gs (985038) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454167)

I agree that the people shouldn't call it a "victory". I guess it's better than nothing, though. Completely off-topic: What ever happened to the "could/couldn't care less" thread? Shall we start it now? :P

Re:This isn't a win for us (3, Insightful)

honkycat (249849) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454207)

Maybe he actually meant they "could care less." Just because they're running a despicable, heartless organization like the RIAA doesn't mean they don't have hopes, dreams, and feelings of their own! It hurts to be so hated! They sure could care less!

Re:This isn't a win for us (2, Informative)

yotto (590067) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454281)

I don't agree that the RIAA makes for a great front for Warner, Sony BMG, et al to use as a shield. I personally (and many friends of mine) won't buy from *any* label under the RIAA umbrella, and we use the RIAA-Radar [riaaradar.com] to help our purchasing decisions.

Being in the RIAA can't help more than it hurts.

Re:This isn't a win for us (2, Insightful)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454349)

> People hate the RIAA? Guess what, that's exactly what it was created with in mind.

Nonsense. The RIAA was formed in 1952 to do things like establishing standards for phonographs. Until recently the general public had never heard of it.

Re:This isn't a win for us (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454543)

I was just about to say something along these same lines. The RIAA is just a consortium of the recording companies. At any point they can kill it off and start a new consortium to keep the heat off them without much issue.

Re:This isn't a win for us (1)

Technician (215283) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454747)

Recording companies get to engage in strong-armed consumer-alienating behavior, but dodge the consequences because the "RIAA" is there to take the flak.

Wanna bet? Seems there was this thing on Slashdot not too long ago about CD sales numbers..

No Brainer. (3, Interesting)

Whiney Mac Fanboy (963289) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454119)

RIAA produce nothing & sue consumers. Of course people hate them.

From TFA:

The message is clear. The internet cares deeply about being able to download music illegally.
WTF? I think many, many people who respect others' copyright have problems with RIAA's tactics of suing random (often innocent) people, attempts to scare govt & the public by linking terrorism & piracy, and basically ignoring the fact that they have to change (or at least adjust) business models.

Painting all enemies of RIAA as illegal downloaders is just stupid (or perhaps a troll?)

Bootnote: This is mildly amusing for me, 'cause last thread I commented in I was accused of being a RIAA Shill [slashdot.org] (presumably that poster believes anyone who criticises Apple is a RIAA shill).

Re:No Brainer. (1)

hereschenes (813329) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454195)

Painting all enemies of RIAA as illegal downloaders is just stupid (or perhaps a troll?)

It's definitely a troll, dude. Turn up your sarcasmeter. ;)

RE: your Bootnote (1)

Toby_Tyke (797359) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454657)

This is mildly amusing for me, 'cause last thread I commented in I was accused of being a RIAA Shill (presumably that poster believes anyone who criticises Apple is a RIAA shill).

[offtopic rant] I sympathize . I have noticed a growing trend to amongst the more excitable element on slashdot to scream "shill" at anyone with whom they disagree. I was accused of being on the Microsoft payroll twice last week. Presumably I must have taken up a position with them after leaving Nintendo, because I was apparently posting on their behalf around the time of the Wii launch.

The whole thing's just stupid beyond words. If MS or the RIAA were going to hire people to astroturf on their behalf, why in gods name would they waste time posting on slashdot? I could see them paying people to shill on, say, a BBC news discussion forum, but Slashdot? Owing to how the moderation system works, it would take multiple people months to have any success in penetrating the group think, and even if they did manage to earn get their stuff modded up, so what? Preaching pro-RIAA or pro-MS stuff on Slashdot is unlikely to change anyones mind.
[/offtopic rant]

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest

Trade Group Not Company (5, Insightful)

aldheorte (162967) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454121)

The RIAA is a trade group, not a company, although I have long wondered why they do not run afoul of anti-trust laws since they essentially serve as a vehicle for price fixing, joint litigation, and other forms of collusion between the member companies, which, taken together, represent a de facto monopoly in the music industry.

Re:Trade Group Not Company (1)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454157)

Exactly. Plus, as much as the RIAA are vile, its not like they are providing substandard service to our troops for an enormous profit!

Re:Trade Group Not Company (4, Insightful)

mamono (706685) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454245)

The correct term for this is "cartel" which is exactly what the RIAA is.

And the prize is... (5, Funny)

lavid (1020121) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454127)

The RIAA will get a gift certificate for 100 song downloads at the iTunes store!

RIAA != company (0, Redundant)

strangel (110237) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454133)

Since when is the "Recording Industry Association of America" a company?
Last time I checked, it was a trade group, and the record companies themselves are members of this group.

Re:RIAA != company (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454277)

Its a cartel.

Re:RIAA != company (2, Insightful)

Not The Real Me (538784) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454351)

Since when is the "Recording Industry Association of America" a company?
Last time I checked, it was a trade group, and the record companies themselves are members of this group.


Most of the dorks and geeks that hate the RIAA are to stupid to understand this subtle point. The dweebs that voted the RIAA worst company are also the same group of people who would vote BSA (Business Software Alliance), IEEE (Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers), and ISO (International Organization for Standardization) as terrible "companies" as well.

Or maybe... (1)

eddy (18759) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454447)

Or people are smart enough to realize that getting a group vote for the Sony-BMG-Warner-FOX-Columbia-and-hundreds-more is a great deal, even if it's not technically ONE company.

Re:RIAA != company (4, Informative)

Dun Malg (230075) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454591)

Company: a corporation - or, less commonly, an association, partnership or union - that carries on industrial enterprise.
-Black's Law Dictionary

The RIAA is a company. It's even a corporation. Just because a bunch of people on slashdot have a different vague notion* of what constitutes a "company" doesn't mean it isn't.

* the fact that no one has articulated exactly why they think they don't constitute a company pretty well indicates that they don't know exactly what a company is.

Re:RIAA != company (2, Informative)

NormalVisual (565491) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454453)

It's actually "Recording Industry Association of America, Inc.". It's a privately held not-for-profit corporation [state.ny.us] based in New York. No way to tell for sure, but one would assume the vast majority of shares (if not all of them) are held by the member companies.

How Sad (4, Insightful)

djlurch (781932) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454147)

How sad it is that the fight over music usage rights eclipses war profiteering by Haliburton.

Re:How Sad (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454405)

You seem to forget that 51% of USians de-facto re-elected Haliburton to power in the last vice-presidential election. Half of the people love Haliburton and think they've done nothing wrong.

Whatever (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454417)

At least they deliver a (shitty, overpriced) product. Every military contractor does that. The RIAA abuses the system worse than any content provider.

Re:How Sad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454525)

because there will always be war and war profiteering. Hopefully, though, there's only one Britney Spears and by destroying organizations like the RIAA, maybe we can prevent the spread of such calamities.

Re:How Sad (1)

dlanod (979538) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454627)

Because one affects us directly, while the other one is hidden on the other side of the world and through government secrecy.

Re:How Sad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454765)

because it was probably an online vote and all the nerds flooded it with their vote.
Now lets get a street poll and I bet the RIAA would not even be on that list.

The nerds could give two shits about some starving kid in Africa when their precious 'digital music collection' must be tendered to.

I would have voted for the US Government (1, Insightful)

essence (812715) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454149)

I think the US government counts as a company now, it's controlled by corporatist frontmen.

What a load of crock. (4, Insightful)

descil (119554) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454155)

Take a look at the votes on their "Big Board" and you'll quickly find that their methodology is a complete crock.

Comcast or Verizon or Microsoft could easily have won against the RIAA, given the appropriate competition on the big board. But, hahaha, to figure out who the "worst company" was they pitted the RIAA against United Airlines, U-Haul, Exxon, and Halliburton. Halliburton is the only one that was any challenge at all. Change the board around - make it RIAA against Microsoft, RIAA against Comcast, and you'll see different results.

Furthermore, the RIAA v. Halliburton... so funny... RIAA takes money away close to home, Halliburton kills everyone in the rest of the world - but who is hated more? America, you fail. Rot in hell. :)

Re:What a load of crock. (2, Insightful)

Volante3192 (953645) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454249)

Comcast or Verizon or Microsoft could easily have won against the RIAA, given the appropriate competition on the big board.

That's why in any bracket they always put the #1 ranked team against the #16 ranked team. (and #2 against #15...and so on, so the only "real" competition happens in the middle.)

Check out your nearby Final Four bracket and check how they're grouped. I think you'll be pleasently disappointed. ...Although I'd say Comcast lost fair and square to Sony.

Cheney Quoted (1)

Nutty_Irishman (729030) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454219)

When asked about his opinion on Halliburton's ranking on the Worst company list, Cheney was quoted as saying: "Number two? This is bullshit!"

Totally stolen from http://www.theonion.com/content/node/48445 [theonion.com]

Nice try, but (0, Redundant)

2Bits (167227) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454237)

... does this mean anything? So I have a couple of questions:

1. Who is "consumerist" anyway? I can't find much information to that question on their web site, I saw only 3 names. So maybe they are a bunch of activist geeks, but that by no means represents the general populace. What could the result mean? Nothing much to the general public, I guess...

2. What's the method to get to that conclusion? Is it representative? How did they draw their sample? I don't think so, I can't even find any info on how the poll is made. If people really hate those bastards, how come they keep on sending their hard-earned money to those fuckheads?

3. Since when RIAA is a company? This already puts a question mark on their method.

Yeah, really, no kidding (0)

kiwimate (458274) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454379)

I have no idea who or what Consumerist is, but the story I looked at had this in the first three paragraphs.

We predicted an RIAA landlslide, but they only managed a 53.8% majority over Halliburton's 46.2%

The message is clear. The internet cares deeply about being able to download music illegally.


Mmm-hmm...not too sure who Consumerist polled, but I'm fairly confident that a truly representative poll of mainstream America would not provide that sort of skewed data.

And then according to another post...

they pitted the RIAA against United Airlines, U-Haul, Exxon, and Halliburton

So you're not exactly talking a scientific survey here.

In short, this is mildly amusing and vindicative for puerile geeks to salivate over, but as far as having any integrity or usefulness whatsoever? Oh please...

This is only because (0)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454267)

Halliburton moved to Dubai, right?

Re:This is only because (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454293)

Oops [slashdot.org] , I did it again.

So very sorry...

100,000 votes = 275,000,000 americans? (1)

NokX (921152) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454307)

just saying.... that's not a lot of votes to make the claim of worst companies in america. and how can you hate walmart?! nice old people greeting you and low prices. it's awesome.

Re:100,000 votes = 275,000,000 americans? (2)

pavera (320634) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454431)

you seriously asked how you can hate walmart?

Lets see... Largest private employer in the world. Lowest percentage of health care coverage of any company in the world.
Those old people don't even make enough to cover 1 minor hospital visit, and they aren't covered by any insurance.

Those low prices come at a cost. We all are paying taxes which walmart employees use up every day on medicaid. Walmart is a horrid evil corporation. I wouldn't be suprised if Sergey and Larry were thinking exactly of walmart when they coined "Do No Evil".

Obviously the polls aren't statistically valid. But, in general polls have much lower samples than that. Any political poll will have a sample size of 1-2000. Yet MSNBC will get up and say "75% of Americans disagree with the war in Iraq" well... do you really think they called 275 million americans?

Re:100,000 votes = 275,000,000 americans? (0, Offtopic)

holywar (1079119) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454575)

How can anybody be enslaved, if he is already the slave of God? Bow as deep as you can for Allah, so that you cannot bow deeper for anybody else. Besides the few things that Allah has forbidden, you are free to do as you please. Join the Holy War. Allah demands that we exterminate anybody who tries to take away the freedom that Allah, the Most Beneficient, the Most Compassionate, has endowed us with. The Almighty Allah expects every man to do his duty. Allah Akbar!

What exactly is forbidden? (-1, Troll)

holywar (1079119) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454343)

That what God has forbidden, is unlawful to us. Anything else is lawful. Any law in excess of the laws of Allah, invariably attempts to favour one group of persons, such as the RIAA and its backers, over another. Any such excess law is unlawful and attempts to enslave us, and the Prophet insists that that every man must do his duty, take up arms, fight the Holy War, and thorougly exterminate the enslavers. Allah Akbar!

In search of the Golden Poop (2, Interesting)

Bushcat (615449) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454377)

Wondering (as one does) how much of a market there could possibly be for golden poop, I noted the Japanese writing on the screen and followed the trail to http://www.rakuten.co.jp/bif-shop/448445/156668/ [rakuten.co.jp] : so that award cost somewhere between $18 and $35. I see the little one doubles up as a rubber stamp, too.

nice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454455)

More hated than Halliburton, more despised than Walmart, the RIAA has defeated all comers to become the Worst Company in America 2007."

RIAA worse than Halliburton? Worse than Bechtel?

Goes to show how truly fooking stupid we are.

What about SCO? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18454465)

Where does SCO fit in with all of this hate?

MPAA more loved (1)

BillGatesLoveChild (1046184) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454467)

I was originally going to vote MPAA the worst corporation ahead of the RIAA, but then I thought about the charming Jack Valenti and all the pornography he brings us. That couldn't help but make smile.

Re:MPAA more loved (1)

reub2000 (705806) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454751)

You mean all of the pornography that he's kept from ever hitting theaters. Go watch This Film Is Not Yet Rated.

In just America? (1)

TriZz (941893) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454485)

I'm sure that Sweden and Russia aren't too fond of the RIAA either.

good news (1)

packslash (788926) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454531)

Even I'll post on this one it makes me happy and I never post

Where is SCO? (1)

mdsolar (1045926) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454617)

Come on Slashdot, don't you love polls? SCO should have made the prelims.

They beat U-Haul (1)

MrCawfee (13910) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454631)

The RIAA Beat U-Haul? I'd take a lawsuit over running across the freeway to pickup my belongings that fell out because of the broken lift gate.

Then again I did need new furniture...

Ever had a car fall off on of their trailers because they hooked it up wrong?

Then again I did need a new car...

The power of publicity. (3, Insightful)

jcr (53032) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454679)

As nasty as the RIAA is, they don't hold a candle to the tobacco companies: the only industry whose product, used as recommended, causes cancer, emphysema, and heart disease.

-jcr

Sad poll (4, Insightful)

edwardpickman (965122) | more than 7 years ago | (#18454755)

It's depressing to see where peoples priorities are. Haliburton steals tens of billions and New Orleans gets thrown to the wolves to make way for rich people's condos. Oil companies control the government and manage to surpress information about global warming that will affect the lives of everyone on the planet. What people are really concerned with is the free exchange of music, movies and software. People really do need to get their priorities screwed on straight. Anna Nichol Smith and Brittany Spears get more press than global warming and Haliburton. If music and movies are more important that corporations stealing billions from every american with the governments help we're in serious trouble. If you want to get upset get upset about something important. Music and movies could disappear overnight and we wouldn't loose a single life. Global warming is threatening millions and our grandkids will be paying for the eight year term of our current administration. Those are important things. Get angry at the companies behind that not the ones that are trying to restrict downloads.
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