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Farscape (Kinda) Returns

CmdrTaco posted more than 7 years ago | from the what-the-frell dept.

Sci-Fi 140

westlake writes "In a weekend press tour, Sci Fi announced that Farscape would be resurrected on-line in ten short webisodes to be produced by the Jim Henson Company. There are hints that Ben Browder and Claudia Black will both be both "available." Browder has another project to keep him occupied, at least part of the time: Sci Fi also announced that it had picked up Going Homer, a miniseries he developed with "Farscape" director Andrew Prowse. Greek and Roman deities walk among us, but only 12 year old Homer Ulysses Jones can see them for what they truly are. When Homer and his father are forced to flee a custody battle that would likely separate them, they journey from Los Angeles to the home of their ancestors — in Ithaca, N.Y."

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Interesting (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19900915)

Good News: Dumbledore IS ALIVE!!
Bad News: Snape is forced to kill Dumbledore.
Ron Weasley dies.
Then later; Hermione dies.

AND they are REALLY dead and not coming back by the end of the book!

So then: Harry kills himself in order to destroy Voldemort!

In the end of the book Harry is reunited in the Deathly Hallows Ghost World with his parents, Ron, Hermione, Sirius and Dumbledore...kind of like the end of Return

Re:Interesting (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19901211)

You a$$hole don't spoil it for everyone. Moderators please remove first post.

Re:Interesting (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19902063)

Don't worry, he didn't actually spoil it! Actually Harry lives, Snape dies, some weasley dude dies, Ron and Hermione get it on freaky witchery style and Harry and Ginny do the same, although not at the same time although I would definitely read that story.... Anyway, as I said - don't worry - he didn't spoil it. Harry wins the day... who didn't see that one coming?

Good (1)

InvisblePinkUnicorn (1126837) | more than 7 years ago | (#19900927)

They can use that time to explain how/why they edited a season of story down to a couple hectic hours.

Re:Good (1)

FinchWorld (845331) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901303)

How? By much pleading. Why? They canceled Farscape, very annoying when the season ended with the main characters apparently being killed and the message "To be continued".

Re:Good (3, Informative)

Arcane_Rhino (769339) | more than 7 years ago | (#19902309)

Go rent "The Peacekeeper Wars". All will be well.

Webisodes? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19901495)

Oh, please, just don't.

It doesn't matter how you broadcast it, an episode is an episode.

Sometimes there are good reasons for making some words more specific...this is not one of those times. Abusing our language like that is an atrocity.

May God treat your soul without the lightest hint of mercy.

I hope this isn't... (1)

1937redskins (756888) | more than 7 years ago | (#19900973)

what they meant when they said "to be continued"....

Re:I hope this isn't... (1)

MontyApollo (849862) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901727)

I thought they did a movie or two to wrap it up past "to be continued" episode.

Farscape's strength was its weakness (2, Interesting)

PhrostyMcByte (589271) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901015)

Farscape's super-long story arcs meant you had to be watching from the start, or at least for a very long time, if you wanted to understand what was going on. I fear this doomed it in the end, as people weren't able to just channel surf and get into it.

I wish they'd bring back the show, but I guess this will do.

Re:Farscape's strength was its weakness (2, Interesting)

Control Group (105494) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901261)

Farscape's super-long story arcs meant you had to be watching from the start, or at least for a very long time, if you wanted to understand what was going on. I fear this doomed it in the end, as people weren't able to just channel surf and get into it.

Which made it perfect for release to DVD...if that had been done in a better (ie, cheaper) fashion. Not, of course, the Farscape was or is alone in charging prices that made it infeasible to buy an entire season.

Really, I think there's an untapped market segment there; not just for Farscape, but for certain kinds of TV shows in general. I think it might eventually be a successful business model to plan your show around only having a few episodes on television, solely as marketing for the DVD release of the full season.

I use the term "DVD release," but there's potential in a couple different places for a new model of on-demand viewing: Netflix' streaming rentals, for one. I could certainly see TiVo doing video push to STBs at some point. Cable already has pay-per-view and on-demand streaming infrastructures in place.

We're not there yet, but I think it could happen. How many people would have paid for more episodes of Firefly, for example?

Re:Farscape's strength was its weakness (1)

gsaraber (46165) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901579)

Tivo already does video push, you can subscribe to a bunch of 'channels' and it basically downloads short 2-10 minute videos from places like cnet, NY times, rocketboom and a whole bunch more..
and you can do video download rentals from amazon's 'unbox' service, the quality is about what my regular tv looks like, so very watchable, with specials for $0.99 per movie, its hard to beat..

Re:Farscape's strength was its weakness (1)

ReptilianSamurai (1042564) | more than 7 years ago | (#19902863)

Thankfully, the Farscape DVDs have been re-released as "Starburst" editions. More special features (including exclusive interviews and several new commentaries), and a much cheaper price. That's how I got to see the series, and glad of it.

Did I mention how excited I am that Farscape is returning?! Hopefully these "webisodes" will be longer than a few minutes each, I don't see how you could tell much story in something too short.

And yes, I would gladly pay for more episodes of Firefly. *sigh*

Unavailable again. (1)

dpaton.net (199423) | more than 7 years ago | (#19904719)

Unfortunately, the Starburst edition DVDs are now out of print as well. If you run across a 1.2 Starburst set, let me know, my wife wants it BAD. Existing stock is all that's left for most of the DVDs.

Re:Farscape's strength was its weakness (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 7 years ago | (#19903189)

Really, I think there's an untapped market segment there; not just for Farscape, but for certain kinds of TV shows in general. I think it might eventually be a successful business model to plan your show around only having a few episodes on television, solely as marketing for the DVD release of the full season.

The way things have been going, I've been wondering whether there might be a market for episodic material released directly to DVD, iTunes, and pay-per-view. Maybe I'm alone, but most of the TV I watch these days isn't the channel-surfing kind. I usually only watch a couple of series at a time, record them on my DVR, and then watch them when I have time-- and that's pretty much all the TV I watch. If I could just pay for those series' episodes, get them through iTunes or on-demand or something, and have it for a reasonable price, I might choose that instead of cable TV. I don't even feel like I need to "own" them (like buying a DVD). I usually don't watch the same episodes more than once, and if I could "rent" them, it'd be good enough.

Re:Farscape's strength was its weakness (4, Interesting)

haplo21112 (184264) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901277)

That was only part of it the original also suffered from "going way out there" at times. It pushed the limits past where some people could bear the strangeness. It was fairly well grounded in the first two seasons, but in the third it went to places that just about (and for some perhaps did) required LSD to get the story to make sense. I had my wife into the show, she is a SCIFI fan of the BSG, Stargate, DR Who, Trek and Star Wars type. FarScape just turned out to be WAY too much for her at times.

It also honestly suffered from the same thing that every SCIFI channel show suffers from, utter lack of programming consistency. What day and time is that on? what months of the year? 13 weeks at a time and its coming back when? What other shows are on with it on SCIFI channel that night? Didn't that other show used to be on before it? after it?

SCIFI channel was doing good for a while they had both StarGates and BSG all on the same night on Fridays. That was great, sit down watch all the good shows, great. Then they moved BSG to Sundays, put something else on not as good, the shows were not even in lock step as far as premiere and finale weeks anymore. SCIFI really needs to get clued in on the whole seasons thing, thats the way most people esspecially the casual watchers that could help improve the overall ratings prefer to watch TV.

Don't even get me started on the "its getting its full run in England before its on in America" thing. Thats a great way to will ratings since the primary audiance are all going to bit torrent it so they can watch it at the same time as there peers on the otherside of the pond so the discussion boards are not a huge spoiler fest.

Re:Farscape's strength was its weakness (1)

MontyApollo (849862) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901547)

>> I had my wife into the show, she is a SCIFI fan of the BSG, Stargate, DR Who, Trek and Star Wars type. FarScape just turned out to be WAY too much for her at times.

The same thing happened for my wife. She is not that big of a sci-fi fan, but she likes Stargate and is usually fine watching much of the sci-fi I watch, but Farscape got too much for her. (Dr Who was too much for her too, but a different kind of too much.)

Re:Farscape's strength was its weakness (1)

teal (4252) | more than 7 years ago | (#19904451)

Oh my God, this strangeness as you call it was so wonderful. A story line where you couldn't predict the ending 10 minutes into the show. A story line where you genuinely cared and empathized with the characters. A story line that made you pay attention and think once in a while. Not your usual bland TV fare but oh so much fun.

Re:Farscape's strength was its weakness (1)

MontyApollo (849862) | more than 7 years ago | (#19904717)

I didn't have any problem with it; my wife did. I thought it made for some very interesing episodes, but I could see how it would turn some of the audience off.

I think going way beyond what Star Trek or Babylon 5 would ever do has a lot of merit, but I've seen a lot of the fans of those shows just kind of blow Farscape off like it never existed.

Re:Farscape's strength was its weakness (1)

sammy baby (14909) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901939)

That was only part of it the original also suffered from "going way out there" at times. It pushed the limits past where some people could bear the strangeness. It was fairly well grounded in the first two seasons, but in the third it went to places that just about (and for some perhaps did) required LSD to get the story to make sense. I had my wife into the show, she is a SCIFI fan of the BSG, Stargate, DR Who, Trek and Star Wars type. FarScape just turned out to be WAY too much for her at times.


That's interesting - my wife can't stand most of the stuff that airs on Sci Fi, but loved Farscape.

Although I'd agree about the writing being pretty inconsistent for the latter half of the series. I think the first episode we saw was "The Way We Weren't" (which was the "Officer Sun comes to terms with the fact that she killed Moya's former Pilot" episode), which was possibly the best episode they shot. It was just sort of on in the background, but after a very intense scene, my wife and I realized we'd been staring at the television, and said, "What the hell is this, and why haven't we been watching it up until now?"

Jim Henson Company (5, Funny)

FlopEJoe (784551) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901019)

produced by the Jim Henson Company

It's gonna be filmed with Muppets? Talk about chintsing on the budget!

Re:Jim Henson Company (2, Informative)

haplo21112 (184264) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901059)

The original Farscape was a Henson company production.

Re:Jim Henson Company (5, Funny)

MontyApollo (849862) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901065)

Uh, it was always filmed with muppets. Never seen it?

Re:Jim Henson Company (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901239)

This and other "pro-muppet" comments aren't "funny" they're accurate. Look it up or watch an episode, then mod Parent informative.

Re:Jim Henson Company (1)

fm6 (162816) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901559)

And, ironically, it was canceled because Sci Fi decided it cost too much. Muppets don't work cheap!

Re:Jim Henson Company (2, Insightful)

zippthorne (748122) | more than 7 years ago | (#19903847)

Broder and Black can't get a break. First Farscape, now Stargate. And what did they cancel stargate in favor of?
  • Some crappy British serial treknobabble-comedy trash whose principle virtue I can discern so far is that it's "been on the air a really long time"?
  • A "mutant X" ripoff complete with it's own ubiquitous and unquestioned racial epithet?
  • A "Friday the Thirteenth: the series" ripoff with (ok, it would be hard to ripoff that series without improving it...)?
  • Wrestling? wtf? how scifi is wrestling? They don't even dress like KISS anymore.
  • Ten dozen random giant snake/crocodile movies? You'd think one film would be sufficient to cover the subject.

I'm all for ending shows with dignity, but Scifi's choices are completely irrational. I mean, if they really are having money troubles, they should go back to how they built the damn channel in the first place: showing old scifi and "b" movies. There are plenty of terrible scifi films, they don't need to go out of their way to make their own...

Re:Jim Henson Company (2, Informative)

fm6 (162816) | more than 7 years ago | (#19904669)

Sci Fi's programming choices make no sense from the viewer's POV. But when you run a cable channel, you don't worry that much about keeping your programming non-ripoffy and consistent with your theme. You mainly worry about keeping your costs down without losing too much audience. It's not like cable companies can say, "Our viewers are sick of the Sci-Fi channel, we're going to drop it in favor of ..." For one thing, there isn't anything else that appeals to the same audience. For another, Sci-Fi belongs to NBC-Universal and is sold as part of a bundle — which cable companies have to order, because it includes must have stuff. In particular, it includes the programming from the local NBC affiliate, which they are required to show.

If you're really pissed off by Sci Fi's programming decisions, write your congressperson and the FCC and tell them you think that bundling should be outlawed. Me, I don't care that much, because I've opted out of the whole cable TV ripoff. Which means waiting for shows to come out on DVD, but hey, I already have a 3-year backlog in my Netflix queue.

Re:Jim Henson Company (2, Funny)

PhrostyMcByte (589271) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901101)

The original was from Jim Henson Company, and it had several muppets in it >:)

Re:Jim Henson Company (4, Funny)

InvisblePinkUnicorn (1126837) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901141)

Several main characters in the show were "muppets", including Pilot, Rygel, and Beaker.

Err, wait, that doesn't look right...

Re:Jim Henson Company (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19901195)

...Pilot, Rygel, and Beaker.

Bravo!

Re:Jim Henson Company (1)

InvisblePinkUnicorn (1126837) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901223)

"...Pilot, Rygel, and Beaker."

"Bravo!"

Sorry, I meant to say "Browder" :)

Re:Jim Henson Company (1)

aled (228417) | more than 7 years ago | (#19903645)

"...Pilot, Rygel, and Beaker."

"Bravo!"

Sorry, I meant to say "Browder" :)


What do you mean? Pilot was a muppet?? ;-)

Re:Jim Henson Company (1)

evilviper (135110) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901655)

It's gonna be filmed with Muppets?

As opposed to the previous episodes, which were filled with actual aliens...

Re:Jim Henson Company (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901685)

The original even had the odd guest appearance from the Skeksis, so why not?

Re:Jim Henson Company (1)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901893)

Looks like with a lot of people, the joke went farscape over their heads.

Re:Jim Henson Company (1)

Temposs (787432) | more than 7 years ago | (#19902705)

Henson-style puppetry is no trivial feat. Even though he became famous doing puppetry programs for children, he was(he's dead) an amazingly accomplished artist besides, in the realms of painting and sculpture [si.edu] .

If you don't know of Jim Henson's more serious work, I recommend you watch The Dark Crystal [wikipedia.org] which is an excellent serious fantasy film.

Hmmm. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19901055)

lol wut

Good News: Dumbledore IS ALIVE!!
Bad News: Snape is forced to kill Dumbledore.
Ron Weasley dies.
Then later; Hermione dies.
*
AND they are REALLY dead and not coming back by the end of the book!
*
So then: Harry kills himself in order to destroy Voldemort!
*
In the end of the book Harry is reunited in the Deathly Hallows Ghost World with his parents, Ron, Hermione, Sirius and Dumbledore...kind of like the end of Return

Muppets in Space (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19901149)

In the gritty post-BSG era, can anyone really take Farscape seriously again?

Re:Muppets in Space (1)

setrops (101212) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901487)

>In the gritty post-BSG era, can anyone really take Farscape seriously again?

I loved BSG's first and second seasons, but last year was total garbage.

Same thing with Farscape everything going along fine until they blow up Moya and everyone aboard and the next episode everyone is back with no explanation?

Next thing you'll know writers will take an ultimate cop-out and just finish a show with a fade to black.

Re:Muppets in Space (1)

PharCyDE (101385) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901647)

Moya blew up? What episode are you talking about?

Re:Muppets in Space (1)

totoanihilation (782326) | more than 7 years ago | (#19902763)

Hm. The parent most likely saw episodes out-of-sequence, or is confusing Moya with Elack.
Elack is the ship that rescued a stranded Crichton at the beginning of season 4. She had retreated to her sacred burial ground to die. Fast-forward a few episodes. Elack crashes on a planet (incidently, on a set of landed peacekeeper marauders) to help our heroes escape.

Hope this makes sense ;)

Re:Muppets in Space (1)

Belacgod (1103921) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901919)

The second half of season 2 was no good either. I think they crammed 6 episodes' worth of plot into the season finale, and 2 episodes' worth of plot into the previous 7 episodes.

Honestly, I think they sat down after the miniseries and wrote out the whole plot up to Home, Part 2, then just winged it. The quality dropoff after that was marked.

Re:Muppets in Space (1)

MontyApollo (849862) | more than 7 years ago | (#19902087)

It was gritty, but it still had problems, even in the 1st and 2nd seasons. For example, bridge officers commit mutiny, but everything is forgiven and they get their positions back. I think in some ways life on Pegasus was more realistic; maybe a blend of the two would have been better TV.

Re:Muppets in Space (1)

AgentSmith (69695) | more than 7 years ago | (#19902067)

Take Farscape seriously again? Sure. Why not? We took SG-1 seriously when Claudia Black and Ben Browder had a chance to expand their range from their Farscape roles.
But did we ever really take it too seriously. Farscape was the fun side of SF. It still could be.
The only catch is: Will the webisodes be straight canon and storyline or more spinoff snippets. Learn from Star Trek. Spin offs- Just don't do it!

BSG is good, but on the serious-o-meter let's take a look:

Doctor Who-- 'Bout damn time! Hell for all the time it takes to get here, the Brits are probably on another generation. Reasonably serious, for all it's fun. Kinda the template.
SG-1 Atlantis?-- Gettin' good, but it's like they are holding back. This franchise might be limping along. Still miffed they didn't actually close SG-1. Semi-serious. We know they can have fun.
Eureka?-- Still waking out of its seasonal coma. The sad part of this show is when it tries to take itself too seriously.
Painkiller Jane?-- Pthhhbbbtt!

Farscape could also come back with a dramatic venegence. Battlestar has set the bar high again for that.

Let see what we are Waitin' on:
Heroes, BSG-- Oh yeah!
Bionic Woman?-- Eick did well with his part in BSG. But we'll see. meh.
Will Torchwood do anything?-- meh. Spinoffs like this make my feet itch.
B5 Lost episodes?-- meh meh. J.M.S. is a master of storytelling, but we've spun off so much from B5 I'm getting whiplash in a tornado.
Flash Gordon!?-- C'mon. Have people completely forgotten the early 80's? This has the equivalent draw of a fire in the town square.

We have one original thing in Heroes out there. Everything else is remakes and spinoffs.
Then again, is there anything new? If so, I like to know.

Re:Muppets in Space (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19902243)

We have one original thing in Heroes out there. Everything else is remakes and spinoffs.


The 4400 is decent.

Re:Muppets in Space (1)

BlackSnake112 (912158) | more than 7 years ago | (#19902927)

Flash Gordon!?-- C'mon. Have people completely forgotten the early 80's?

-- Don't forget the soundtrack by Queen

Re:Muppets in Space (1)

iibagod (887140) | more than 7 years ago | (#19903045)

Torchwood season 1 is rather entertaining...more serious than Dr. Who, and definately more adult. If you're looking for more of Dr. Who, this ISNT the show to watch. My daughters and I watch Dr. Who religiously, but this is more CSI meets X-files with the Dr. Who history. Good references to previous Dr. Who history...this is the same universe (Um...Universe1, not Universe2...you know what I mean). Interesting to see what they can get away with in the UK, I bet the best parts will be left out once it comes across the pond. Torrents FTW!

please no! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19901219)

FTA:

They are not going to do 10 full, 44-minute episodes for the Web. Each episode will be a few minutes long.


Ugh... I hate webisodes. Please don't ruin Farscape. Anything less than 30 minutes is simply not enough to develop even the most trivial story, not to talk about the time our brain requires to adapt itself when one starts watching a show.

Make it as a 3 part 45 minutes regular TV episodes and it won't suck like a webisode miniseries certainly will.

Re:please no! (2, Insightful)

enjerth (892959) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901531)

Perhaps this might be a trial to see if there's an audience for a full restart?

Re:please no! (2, Insightful)

changling bob (1075587) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901645)

It worked for Dr. Who

I'd rather... (1)

Hangin10 (704729) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901231)

I'd rather have my SG-1 back. SG-1, Eureka, and recently Dead Like Me are the only things I've managed to like on SciFi. Farscape was always far too silly for me (pun unintended).
Unrelated Obligatory Sarcasm: Wrestling is Science Fiction!

Re:I'd rather... (1)

MontyApollo (849862) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901351)

>>Farscape was always far too silly for me

It really wasn't that silly. The muppets would kind of lead you to believe that; you just had to get used to them.

I actually got my wife to watch it for a while. She got past the muppets, but could not get past the existentialism.

Re:I'd rather... (1)

haplo21112 (184264) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901789)

Ah that was the word I was searching for in my Post "existentialism"

Re:I'd rather... (1)

ReptilianSamurai (1042564) | more than 7 years ago | (#19903025)

Muppets - or rather, sophisticated animatronics - look far more alien than bumpy-headed prosthetic-covered actors. They were always portrayed very realistically too, the skill of the puppetry is really astounding!

Re:I'd rather... (1)

scoser (780371) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901371)

The only way I can figure that wrestling counts as "Science Fiction" is that the matches and storylines are the fiction part and the science part refers to all the work that went into creating the steroids the wrestlers consume.

Re:I'd rather... (1)

Hangin10 (704729) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901405)

Or how they can be bloodied up in one match, and yet can come back later in one show perfectly fine and never have any scars in later matches!

They must pick some actual SciFi show to spend their medical insurance on...

Re:I'd rather... (1)

jimbobborg (128330) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901397)

I don't watch it much either, except for Eureka, SG Atlantis, and The Dresden Files. The problem with SciFi is that they don't have a budget for these types of shows. Dresden at least keeps the special effects down to a minimum. I hope they bring it back.

Re:I'd rather... (1)

kiwimate (458274) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901949)

Interesting...I can't stand SG-1. Banal and predictable, formulaic tripe. The few sci-fi shows I truly enjoy are Doctor Who (of course), Blake's 7 (fondly remembered series from my childhood in New Zealand, and now I have started watching the DVDs I find the tense forward-looking storylines are just as exciting to watch), and Farscape.

For me, especially the latter two series had well-thought out plots, which went through the series and kept you hanging on. None of this oh-so-predictable nonsense that passes for shows today. A list of the absolute worst collection of series on television in the last decade, I think, would have to include the Law and Order franchise. When the actors are obviously speaking their lines by rote with no inflection or emotion whatsoever -- just following the same, tired, worn formula -- you know the show desperately needs to be cancelled.

Re:I'd rather... (1)

Hangin10 (704729) | more than 7 years ago | (#19902229)

Out of curiosity, what would you define as SG-1's formula?

Re:I'd rather... (1, Troll)

cerelib (903469) | more than 7 years ago | (#19902303)

I love SG-1, but you have to admit that they had excercised all possible story outlets and even made some not so great ones up. While the Ori story arc was interesting, it was really just a rehash of the Go'uld (sp?) story arc. Atlantis is in danger of falling into the same trap and just reimplementing SG-1. The end of the last Atlantis season indicated a possibility of a new direction. So I am hopeful for the future of the Stargate universe.

Re:I'd rather... (1)

Hangin10 (704729) | more than 7 years ago | (#19902555)

I never thought they did a particularly good job of dealing with the fallout of the downfall of the Goa'uld. I had this whole expectation of off-world prison camps for zealot Jaffa, and on going massive battles with the Goa'uld merely just using human cannon fodder. And possibly tying the origin of the Egyptian mythology and specifically the creation myth of the BNBN (sp?) stone being like a crashed vaguely upside down Ancient ship piloted by Atum or something. Anyhow, they moved on to the (yeah, similar) Ori story arc rather quickly.

I'd rather see all the possible story outlets than not have it be taken anywhere. Is it just me or has Jack gone from humorously cynical to a bit of an ass?

Re:I'd rather... (1)

ReptilianSamurai (1042564) | more than 7 years ago | (#19902989)

Nothing against SG-1, but it had the best run of any scifi show in America. Ten seasons, a spin-off, and more possibly on the way.

Farscape got a mere 4 seasons, cancelled while they were wrapping up the end of the 4th season, and were promised a 5th - so many threads were left dangling. Thankfully the fans got a miniseries to wrap it up, but it's so heavily compressed another season would have been so much better.

Farscape had a sense of humor that I loved, but it was not silly. It was actually quite dark, it really pushed the envelope in terms of what science fiction shows can do. A few plots were cheesy, sure, but every good show has a few clunkers.

Re:I'd rather... (1)

aled (228417) | more than 7 years ago | (#19903775)

Farscape was always far too silly for me


YMMV but it was very good to me. Themes from maddnes, adult relationships and very bad words in alien language (Frell!) made it like no other.
Galactica was very silly. I couldn't take more than a couple of episodes.

Re:I'd rather... (1)

slapout (93640) | more than 7 years ago | (#19903801)

I'd rather have First Wave. But I guess I should be glad they at least gave it an ending and didn't leave it hanging.

Re:I'd rather... (1)

neglige (641101) | more than 7 years ago | (#19904577)

Farscape wasn't silly, it just had a quirky humor. One episode featured Rygel in black latex as a dominatrix. I almost choked from laughing, but I'm sure not everyone found it THAT funny :) And if you're not into pop culture references, then you miss/don't like 50% of Crichton's dialogue...

Thoughts (1)

alexj33 (968322) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901291)

It will be most sensational, inspirational, celebrational and multiplicational.

hmm. (4, Insightful)

apodyopsis (1048476) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901329)

Why do I have this ghastly, ghastly feeling that this will do for Farscape, what "Crusade" and "Legend of the Rangers" did for Babylon5.

I feel a grave disturbance in the.......

*sigh*.

Am I alone in saying bring back Firefly, bring back Farscape - but do it with the same creative team and format or just let them well alone.

Re:hmm. (1)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901461)

Am I alone in saying bring back Firefly, bring back Farscape - but do it with the same creative team and format or just let them well alone.

I agree. I'd also like to see Drive come back as well. I'm getting real tired of seeing excellent, original programming get canceled and replaced with either a game show, reality show or hospital drama! I would have already canceled my cable TV if my wife hadn't blocked me!

Re:hmm. (1)

john83 (923470) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901971)

You forgot 'forensics'-heavy cop shows.

Re:hmm. (1)

aled (228417) | more than 7 years ago | (#19903863)

You forgot 'forensics'-heavy cop shows.


You know, there is not an CSI Irak... yet.

How many times you can repeat the same show with different names?

Re:hmm. (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 7 years ago | (#19903067)

...get canceled and replaced with either a game show, reality show or hospital drama!

You know, I can almost deal with one of those... except that Farscape was replaced by "Tremors: the series". I mean, really, WTF?

Re:hmm. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19904583)

Hmm. I tried to give Drive a chance since the Captain was in it and all, but when in the first few episodes, they're parked on the side of the highway "in Florida", and there's a HUGE F'NG MOUNTAIN RANGE IN THE BACKGROUND (hint: there ARE no mountains in Florida), I couldn't get over the suspension of disbelief.

I can accept some plot holes here and there, and even some geographic mistakes, but not geological-scale mistakes, people. Point the camera slightly to the left already.

Re:hmm. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19901511)

Am I alone in saying bring back Firefly

Unfortunately not. There are at least three people who post about Firefly on every fucking Slashdot story vaguely related to science fiction.

Please. The show was a failure. The movie was a box-office disaster. It was a failed experiment at producing something only rednecks who like scifi would enjoy. It's time to give it a rest.

Re:hmm. (1)

Drachemorder (549870) | more than 7 years ago | (#19902937)

Oh. I guess that explains why I liked it.

Re:hmm. (1)

slapout (93640) | more than 7 years ago | (#19903667)

The movie was a box-office disaster?

I thought it broke even.

Re:hmm. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19903727)

Box office receipts were about equal to the 50mln (slighly less) that it cost to make. In general, about half of BO receipts end up being used to pay the budget. So the movie ended up about $25M in the red.

Re:hmm. (1)

slapout (93640) | more than 7 years ago | (#19903701)

You left out "what Episodes I-III did for Star Wars."

You insens1tive Clod! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19901357)

Farscape, Firefly, and SG-1 Rule (1)

militiaMan (672558) | more than 7 years ago | (#19901441)

I would like to see comeback of all three.

Industry Standards (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19901519)

Well, in the industry we don't call it Sci-fi, we call it Scientifical Fiction.
--Garth Marenghi

the LEXX! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19901899)

Farscape is an admitted clone of the total concept and most of the details of LEXX! But of course Farscape was sanitized, castrated and dumbed down for the torpid citizens of Dumbland, USA to be able to handle.

LEXX was 3x the show Farscape was in its total creativity and vision - and on a slice of the budget and NO DAMN MUPPETS!

Re:the LEXX! (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 7 years ago | (#19902231)

LEXX was 3x the show Farscape was in its total creativity and vision - and on a slice of the budget and NO DAMN MUPPETS!

Yeah, but it had that Dr. Who-wannabe Canadian feel to it. ;) Oh, that and the undead nihilist super-soldier quasi-protagonist.

Re:the LEXX! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19902723)

LEXX had boobies, so 'nuff said.. :)

Re:the LEXX! (1)

neglige (641101) | more than 7 years ago | (#19904457)

Chiana. 'Nuff said.

Re:the LEXX! (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 7 years ago | (#19904589)

Chiana. 'Nuff said.

Half of the content on the Internet. 'Nuff said.

Re:the LEXX! (3, Informative)

nine-times (778537) | more than 7 years ago | (#19903303)

LEXX was pretty bullshit and juvenile. It's like it was made for retarded 13 year-olds. Constant adolescent sex jokes, space ships shaped like genitalia, etc. It shouldn't be considered to be part of the same genre at Farscape, Dr. Who, or BSG.

Re:the LEXX! (1)

Zonekeeper (458060) | more than 7 years ago | (#19903425)

BINGO. Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself. It had some cool aspects, and who doesn't love some good T and A, but I don't watch sci-fi for that. Well...not mainly anyway. T and A like when Rodney was sinking in the jumper and Carter showed up sans blouse. Thats what I like. Not the crap that LEXX was.

Re:the LEXX! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19903765)

no surprise a moron like you missed the use of Nietszche's "Eternal Recurrance" and other extremely high brow concepts in LEXX... dumbass.

Re:the LEXX! (5, Funny)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 7 years ago | (#19904513)

It's like it was made for retarded 13 year-olds.

Wow. You nailed it precisely. Thread over. :)

Forget it (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 7 years ago | (#19902125)

You don't t-off the viewership by killing off the main characters unceremoniously just to get back at the network, and then come back wanting to have it the other way.

I'll be skipping any future Farscape material. If I need a dose of Sci-Fi I've got The Lost Tales [wikipedia.org] to look forward to.

Re:Forget it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19904393)

uh, you know they didn't kill John and Aeryn. See Peacekeeper War.

Going Homer (1)

sexybomber (740588) | more than 7 years ago | (#19902223)

I wonder if they're actually going to film the series in Ithaca. I went to college there and always thought it'd be a cool location for a movie/TV show/etc. (During the summer, at least. In the winter, it's a post-apocalyptic nuclear-winter hellscape.)

Plus, having the recording crew in town would give the city some impetus to get its act together and finish up the construction projects that have closed 3/4 of the streets, so the local populace would love it.

Plus, there'd be tons of film students at Ithaca College who would jump at the chance to work on the show, so there'd be no shortage of crew members, extras, and so forth.

I, for one, look forward to watching it when it comes out.

Re:Going Homer (1)

nawtykitty (886197) | more than 7 years ago | (#19904217)

Plus they can eat at the Short Stop. Yummy!

Re:Going Homer (1)

sexybomber (740588) | more than 7 years ago | (#19904365)

(in Homer voice) Mmmmmmm, Short Stop..... *drools*

talking about star trek too (1)

peter303 (12292) | more than 7 years ago | (#19902735)

I've heard sanctioned web star trek web-only episodes too from two of the former actors at scifi conventions. (There lots of unsanctioned stuff on the web now).

My issue... (1)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | more than 7 years ago | (#19903707)

My issue with the series is the price and format of the seasons on DVD. It is more expensive than Star Trek, which is saying something, and also grouped in a strange format (half seasons). I really want to support the series by buying the DVDs, but not at the prices I see in my local DVD store. For me SG1 is an example of a TV series using an easy to understand format and approachable pricing.

See here for Amazon.ca pricing:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/104-2424159-3 290317?initialSearch=1&url=search-alias%3Daps&fiel d-keywords=farscape&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go [amazon.com]

I'd be more excited... (1)

glwtta (532858) | more than 7 years ago | (#19903797)

If the Farscape movie didn't suck so hard. Let's face it, Farscape was one of the best sci-fi series ever made, but it ran its course - it's done.

Also, "Homer Ulysses"? Whaa?

Re:I'd be more excited... (1)

goarilla (908067) | more than 7 years ago | (#19903935)

farscape movie ? are you talking about the peacekeeper miniseries
and seriously i loved those, if you wanna complain about bad quality in the farscape universe
then talk about the game not the miniseries

i'm absolutely delighted about this news, i just hope they don't fuck it up
since at the moment farscape is my favorite sci-fi with firefly, stargate sg1, space above and beyond, b5 and st: next generation following next.

Can I get a HELL YEAH! (1)

Lordleppard (913427) | more than 7 years ago | (#19904261)

This is great news. With SG-1 and BSG going off the air, I'm glad they decided to test the waters again with a great show. With luck and the fans, Farscape can make a come back!

HELL YEAH!

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