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Iron Man's New Villain — an Open Source Terrorist

kdawson posted about 6 years ago | from the engineers-make-good-terrorists dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "In a recent interview on Comic Book Resources about his new continuation of the Marvel comic-book series 'Invincible Iron Man,' Matt Faction provides information about the the new series (debut will be May 7). The villain is Ezekiel Stane, son of Obadiah Stane (the villain of the new Iron Man movie opening on May 2). Whereas Obadiah was a ruthless billionaire who fought as the Iron Monger, Zeke 'rejects the strategies of his father as being the crude tactics of Attila the Hun.' Instead, he will be 'a post-national business man and kind of an open source ideological terrorist.' As the author puts it, 'Windows wants to be on every computer desktop in the world, but Linux and Stane want to destroy the desktop.' The concept has gone over well on the CBR forums."

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Open Source Terrorism? (1)

Pikoro (844299) | about 6 years ago | (#23074088)

Some how I get the feeling that that is where this is all headed...

Re:Open Source Terrorism? (4, Funny)

jd (1658) | about 6 years ago | (#23074134)

Just because the movie is sponsored by SCO, Microsoft and NVidia does NOT mean that it is prejudice. Honest, gov.

Re:Open Source Terrorism? (5, Funny)

Max Littlemore (1001285) | about 6 years ago | (#23074354)

I'm sure if the movie was sponsored by Red Hat, Sun and IBM, Iron Man would get his arse kicked by Big-Iron Man - who runs Linux of course.

Re:Open Source Terrorism? (2, Interesting)

Bellum Aeternus (891584) | about 6 years ago | (#23074400)

Just because the movie is sponsored by SCO, Microsoft and NVidia does NOT mean that it is prejudice. Honest, gov.
How in heck did NVidia make into that sentence? MSFT and SCO I can see... but NVidia? Do they not make a Linux driver, or an OpenGL driver or something I'm not aware of?

Re:Open Source Terrorism? (1)

Wiseman1024 (993899) | about 6 years ago | (#23074508)

In fact, nVidia has shown much more interest in supporting Linux and providing with decent drivers than ATi.

Re:Open Source Terrorism? (5, Insightful)

compact_support (968176) | about 6 years ago | (#23074552)

Still, we have ATi (AMD) specifications at least. For many users, closed drivers are as good as no drivers.

Re:Open Source Terrorism? (5, Insightful)

fractoid (1076465) | about 6 years ago | (#23074612)

For a few ideological zealots, closed source drivers are as good as, or worse than, no drivers. For "many users", closed source drivers make the product work and thus are fine.

Re:Open Source Terrorism? (4, Insightful)

chromatic (9471) | about 6 years ago | (#23074786)

For a few ideological zealots, closed source drivers are as good as, or worse than, no drivers.

Assuming those binary blobs even work on your chosen operating system and processor, or the versions thereof.

Re:Open Source Terrorism? (5, Interesting)

MrNaz (730548) | about 6 years ago | (#23074408)

Doesn't the ridiculous labelling of open source software as "terrorism" call into question all the other things that get labelled terrorism? Examples:

The ANC anti-Apartheid movement [wikipedia.org] under the white South African government was labelled a terrorism. Nelson Mandela was public enemy number 1, the Osama Bin Laden of his time and place. White South Africa bought into their government's propaganda.

The White Rose [wikipedia.org] organisation was labelled terrorist, and its leaders beheaded. for their non-violent anti-Nazi position in pre-WWII Nazi Germany. The German body politic bought into their government's propaganda.

Today, the word terrorism gets thrown around like some Muslim / Arab / Islamist (whatever that means) is hiding in the bushes outside your house with his AK-47 pointed at your door just waiting for you and your kids to step out so he can vent his hatred of your freedoms. The American people buy into their government's propaganda.

When you hear the label "terrorist" used, you should think about who is doing the labelling, and what exactly their agenda is rather than just taking their word for it that you are in danger and need their protection.

Re:Open Source Terrorism? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074578)

Muslim / Arab / Islamist (whatever that means)
"Whatever that means"? Oh, please. That's the most sophomoric of all the rhetorical tactics the anti-war folk try to use to discredit the government. There's no ambiguity in the term: just as a White Supremacist is someone who believes that Caucasians should dominate America (through violence if necessary), and a Zionist is someone who believes that Jews should dominate the Middle East (through violence if necessary), so an Islamist is someone who believes that Muslims should dominate the parts of the world they identify as their core territory, i.e. the Middle East, North Africa, and parts of south/central Asia including Afghanistan, Pakistan, and north-west India (through violence if necessary).

I don't disagree with the broad thrust of your point; you are quite right that terrorism is not actually a real threat to most Americans. And certainly the presence of terrorists elsewhere in the world is not a valid reason to take away the liberties of Americans who are not terrorists and do not support them. We must be vigilant to ensure that doesn't happen. But that doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to the suffering of people elsewhere in the world. What's the point of having the world's best military if you don't use it to stomp on some evildoers now and again? ;)

Re:Open Source Terrorism? (4, Insightful)

Jesus_666 (702802) | about 6 years ago | (#23074682)

What's the point of having the world's best military if you don't use it to stomp on some evildoers now and again? ;)
Not being one yourself. When you put the world's most powerful military and the world's most powerful corporations together and add one of the world's most important resources in an area occupied by people easy to label as evil, you end up with a very nasty situation in which it's hard to unambiguously define anyone as the "good guy".

Re:Open Source Terrorism? (2)

ettlz (639203) | about 6 years ago | (#23074890)

What's the point of having the world's best military if you don't use it to stomp on some evildoers now and again? ;)
Yeah, the USA might yet try doing that in earnest.

Re:Open Source Terrorism? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074870)

The ANC did bomb quite a bit of what could only be called civilian targets.

Re:Open Source Terrorism? (2, Interesting)

MrNaz (730548) | about 6 years ago | (#23074926)

I agree, however one must take into account the fact that the ANC viewed the entirety of white South Africa as the enemy. White South Africans on the whole (with few but very noble and notable exceptions) had racist views (partly the result of government propaganda and party the result of humans' latent xenophobia) and supported the government's racist policy. Furthermore, the average white South African treated blacks as slaves and expendable labourers, which made them appear as hostiles in the eyes of the blacks. Factory foremen brutalised their black workers, farmers often shot their farmhands just to make a point to the others and mining companies did not bother with even the most rudimentary of safety precautions for their mine workers, because in the eyes of management, the only good black was a dead black. Just because a person does not wear a uniform and salute, does not mean they cannot be a military type aggressor.

In fact, the US definition of "enemy combatant" is deliberately designed to allow civilians to be targeted by military action.

Who's the terrorist? (2, Insightful)

Wiseman1024 (993899) | about 6 years ago | (#23074536)

The ones who have consistently followed terrorism patterns - extortion, blackmail, revolutionary tax, digital restrictions malware, mafia-controlled monopolies, forcing to upgrade, forcing to sell together with other products, etc. are those behind "Windows wants to be on every desktop". The only thing Linux advocacy does is helping people having a choice Microsoft would never give them.

But what else could you expect from stereotyped cartoons from the United Corporation of America?

Re:Who's the terrorist? (4, Insightful)

utnapistim (931738) | about 6 years ago | (#23074818)

Not that I don't agree with you that all that is bad (extortion, blackmail, etc.), but they are not "terrorist patterns" in any way shape or form: they're not really producing terror, in the name of a political agenda (that is what I understand terrorism to be).

</pedantic>

Debut film from Microsoft Studios Hollywood (1)

Cryacin (657549) | about 6 years ago | (#23074178)

It would only ever happen at the movies.

Re:Debut film from Microsoft Studios Hollywood (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074212)

Did you see The Island?

Two hour Microsoft commercial. Good thing they brought Scarlet Johansen in to keep our attention.

Re:Open Source Terrorism? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074226)

it isn't open source already? seem to be a good bit of openness and sharing in terms of tactics, weapons (look at all the bomb/IED plans available freely.), etc.

People! Not everything is terrorism! (5, Insightful)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | about 6 years ago | (#23074090)

Since 9/11, every goddamned thing is considered terrorism. Shoot a gun downtown? Terrorism. Drink someone's milkshake? Terrorism. Ship cocaine from Colombia to the U.S. Yep, terrorism.

No! It's not! There are proper terms here, and by calling any crime terrorism you insinuate that the crimes are perpetrated by terrorists. That's giving a whole lot of credit to idiot criminals.

Installing Linux on the computers of unwitting Windows users may be a dumb plot, but it's hardly terrorism. If it were, every goddamned user on Slashdot would be a terrorist for trying to wrest Windows from Granny's warm, wet hands.

I'd like to see this OSS terrorist face the CEO of Nerv (from that other forgettable hacker movie a few years back). Geek Terrorist. Coming soon to a basement near you!

Re:People! Not everything is terrorism! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074128)

Agreed, people who use that sort of language must be branded stupidity terrorists, and treated accordingly.

Re:People! Not everything is terrorism! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074138)

And before 9/11 every bad person was compared to Hitler. Even if they didn't kill nearly as many Jews as he did.

BTW:
"Drink someone's milkshake? Terrorism."

You're my new hero for that one.

Re:People! Not everything is terrorism! (5, Funny)

empaler (130732) | about 6 years ago | (#23074666)

And before 9/11 every bad person was compared to Hitler. Even if they didn't kill nearly as many Jews as he did.
Godsdamnit, I'M WORKING AS FAST AS I CAN!

Re:People! Not everything is terrorism! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074150)

Your argument sounds like something a terrorist would say.

Don't you remember? 9/11 changed everything! If you break the law you are a terrorist because using the police to respond to your crime takes manpower and resources away from fighting terrorism. And if that doesn't convince you then it is obvious that *you* are trying to obstruct the fight against terrorism by not fully supporting every policy of the government.

So stop hating freedom, terrorist.

Re:People! Not everything is terrorism! (3, Insightful)

orzetto (545509) | about 6 years ago | (#23074188)

  1. Wait for large terrorist act that scares the crap out of the nation
  2. Pass draconian terror laws suspending civil rights and allowing torture ("But just for terrorists!")
  3. Extend definition of terrorism to include any activity you want to persecute; if met with complaint, answer "Why do you hate Freedom so much?"
  4. ...
  5. Dictatorship!

Re:People! Not everything is terrorism! (5, Insightful)

arivanov (12034) | about 6 years ago | (#23074288)

Wait for large terrorist act that scares the crap out of the nation

The Burning of the Reichstag?

Pass draconian terror laws suspending civil rights and allowing torture ("But just for terrorists!")

The protection of the state laws voted by Germany in 1934, Bulgaria, Hungary and other German allies in the 1934-1939 interval?

Extend definition of terrorism to include any activity you want to persecute; if met with complaint, answer "Why do you hate Freedom so much?"

Yavol, mein Fuhrer!!!

...

Dictatorship!

Zich Heil!!!

Re:People! Not everything is terrorism! (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074436)

If you're going to bring Nazi-Germany into this, you should at least write proper German:

-Jawohl mein Führer (with an Umlaut)
-Sieg Heil

Disclaimer: I'm not German, I'm Dutch.

Re:People! Not everything is terrorism! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074784)

Well done, you've Godwinned the thread already.
Oh, and that would be Jawohl, and Zeig Heil.

Re:People! Not everything is terrorism! (5, Funny)

teh kurisu (701097) | about 6 years ago | (#23074372)

if met with complaint, answer "Why do you hate Freedom so much?"

That does sound like something that an over-zealous open source activist might say.

Re:People! Not everything is terrorism! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074482)

Mod parent up (insightful), as it is an excellent commentary on recent history (yet manages to make efficient use of the language).

Re:People! Not everything is terrorism! (2, Funny)

Workaphobia (931620) | about 6 years ago | (#23074316)

I miss the days when the word terrorist made people think of movies like Air Force One or Die Hard. I miss it being associated with ordinary secular goals instead of just religious extremism.

I'd like to see this OSS terrorist face the CEO of Nerv (from that other forgettable hacker movie a few years back).

Ava?

Re:People! Not everything is terrorism! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074754)

I miss the days when terrorists were Irish and we were allowed to make fun of them.

Re:People! Not everything is terrorism! (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074478)

This is because it is all a "1984" type plot. First you find something that most people dislike, like terrorism. Then you start a "war" on it. Terrorism is especially good here cause you cannot "win" against terrorism, it does not have an identifiable enemy. Anyway, then you start argue for your case, and ask "but do you really support the terrorists then ?" when people tell you this is a bad trend they are seeing, whatever arguments they may have. Then you go on by defining "everything" as terrorism. And there you are, you have bypassed every law ever made to oppose oppression by the ruling class over the rest. Since you can now put people in jail over terrorist suspicion without any evidence or even a trial this is very dangerous. But people seem to be so blinded by "those mean terrorists" that they will accept anything. This is why 9/11 was both christmas and birthday in one day for the rulers.

"Those willing to give up a little liberty for a little security deserve neither security nor liberty." - Benjamin Franklin

Re:People! Not everything is terrorism! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074602)

American comics are all about preserving the status quo anyway... Conservative stuff, you know. No wonder why open-source guys get depicted as "terrorists." What next? Terrorist vegetarians?

Re:People! Not everything is terrorism! (1)

Starayo (989319) | about 6 years ago | (#23074826)

COWS DID 9/11
THINK ABOUT IT
IT MAKES SENSE

WHO HAD THE MOST TO GAIN AND THE LEAST TO LOSE

COWS

With the economic shock, people wouldn't have as much money to spend on: THAT'S RIGHT! BEEF

THE VEGETARIANS ARE IN ON IT!

Re:People! Not everything is terrorism! (2, Funny)

empaler (130732) | about 6 years ago | (#23074884)

Shhhh! Don't tip them off! Otherwise I'll have to start eating meat to avoid suspicion!

Apart from that, some PETA (and similar) raids have been depicted as terrorism...

Re:People! Not everything is terrorism! (2, Interesting)

Jesus_666 (702802) | about 6 years ago | (#23074706)

I think it's awesome to apply to comic-book storylines. Aliens attack the Earth? Terrorism. An evil scientist wanrts to blow up the sun for no apparent reason? Terrorism. Unicron eats a planet? Terrorism. Someone digs up an old bomb from the WW2 in his garden and dies? Terrorism! Hell, if Dr. Xavier gets a bedsore from sitting in his wheelchair all the time that's terrorism.

The following decade of comics will be known as the Bomb The Shit Out Of Third-World Countries Era.

Suit performance a factor? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074120)

I guess if Stark's suit is running Vista then perhaps he'll be at odds when the open source terrorist beats him with a suit made of old library computers that has equal or better performance.

OpenSourceTerroristMan and his sidekick... (5, Funny)

Thanshin (1188877) | about 6 years ago | (#23074122)

Sharerman!

He will share global economy to it's knees!

His nefarious plan of... sharing stuff, has to be stopped!

Join us now and share the software... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074158)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJUDx7iEJw [youtube.com] You will not be rick-rolled.

Re:Join us now and share the software... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074200)

Microsoft is truly doomed.

Re:OpenSourceTerroristMan and his sidekick... (1)

ILuvRamen (1026668) | about 6 years ago | (#23074260)

I thought it would be mortgage man and his diabolical schemes to give scam loans to poor people in order to drive himself into bankruptcy.
Btw this would be accurate if they made the open source guy an elitist, self important, condescending, arrogant jackass like way too many Linux experts but I think Microsoft forcing everyone to use a horrible operating system is eviler.

Re:OpenSourceTerroristMan and his sidekick... (5, Funny)

Jesus_666 (702802) | about 6 years ago | (#23074814)

Okay, how about this set of villains:

The Open Sourceror: Wants the whole world to be covered by the GPL. Has a Shield of Arrogance labeled "RTFM" that can absorb the damage of any attack and turn it into a blast of pure rejection. Can use his package manager to quickly construct mostly-working devices for everything. Thinks the Free Initiative are his best friends.

The Free Initiative: Don't want to be called "Freedom Initiative" because they don't want freedom, they want Free-as-in-freedom. Insist that there's a big difference. Hate the Open Sourceror, the non-Free world and each other, because they can't agree which variant of the BSD licence they want to put the world under.

The Consultant: Sent by IBM manufacturer, the Consultant wears a heavy mechanized armor called the Z System. His goal is to destroy the world (except for IBM) and replace it with a virtual clone running on IBM mainframes. Attacks by throwing blade servers with deadly precision. Has the mysterious ability to drain cash from people's wallets at frightening speed.

Sunray: Sent by Sun, this combatant lugs around a 500 liter canister of Java on his back, which e constantly drinks from by means of a straw. Insists that the caffeine in the Java makes him slower, despite the fact that he can barely move with the canister on his back. Has a on-again-off-again alliance with the Open Sourceror.

Emmessdeeann: This mysterious alien was hired by Microsoft to ensure that every single person on the planet has a valid licence for every product Microsoft manufactures, plans to manufacture at some point or doesn't manufacture but wish they did. Has a Cash Launcher, which suffocates his enemies under wads of Dollar bills, then sets them alight. Also has a Crash Launcher, which causes his power armor to shut down until a service techician can fix it. Unfortunately, both are built into the same weapon. Insists on ending each sentence with ".NET" instead of a full stop. Has a son and a daughter, both called "hWnd".

Google: Omnipresent and omniscient. Insist they aren't doing actual evil while using thir vast archive of footage of illegal activities to blackmail everyone into looking at their context-sensitive ads. Even though they are targetting the entire population of the planet, nobody could yet topple their "we only target evil people" argument.

Juh? (4, Funny)

dancingmad (128588) | about 6 years ago | (#23074132)

As the author puts it, 'Windows wants to be on every computer desktop in the world, but Linux and Stane want to destroy the desktop.'

What part of that sentence did I understand?

Re:Juh? (2, Funny)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | about 6 years ago | (#23074168)

Don't you get it? Stane is obviously a high profile journalist constantly declaring the current year to be "The Year of Linux on the Desktop", thereby getting hundreds of thousands of geeks to install Linux and waste their time trying to get their audio, DVD, and printing working. This results in millions of lost hours of work for their employers, driving up costs while providing no tangible benefit whatsoever. The economy is brought to its knees by this temporary reduction in productivity and Stane and his hordes swoop in to capitalize on the mayhem by selling more OSS services to "fix" the productivity problem.

The victims are forced onto the consultant treadmill and pay ever-increasing amounts of cash to Stane and his company.

The plan is almost perfect!

Re:Juh? (1)

Dr_Barnowl (709838) | about 6 years ago | (#23074222)

Hmm.

Getting DVD and audio to work? My media player asked if I wanted it to work, and behold, after I ticked and clicked, it did.

Printer? A little research on http://linuxprinting.org/ [linuxprinting.org] another tick'n'click, and a setup wizard, and I was printing too.

Perhaps Tony Stark sponsors Ubuntu?

(oh, and any corporation mad enough to allow it's users to watch movies at work has more productivity worries than whether they have the right codecs installed or not).

Re:Juh? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074594)

Hmm.

You're a tard.

Re:Juh? (4, Interesting)

arivanov (12034) | about 6 years ago | (#23074328)

DVD work?

What DVD work?

I have 400+ movies on my Linux file server with any computer around the house being able to work as a proper media player (with a proper IR remote and everything). You also can use a bog standard fanless and diskless thin client for this. No noise, nothing.

Wanna try this with Microcrap Media Center Edition? Dream on...

DVD is actually an area where Linux reigns supreme. I have tried many HD upscalers and I actually play my movies on a Linux box using VLC and Nvidia (with Nvidia drivers). It simply works better than any commercial upscaler I have seen so far. In fact it works so good that I do not see the point of buying and HD media for at least the next few years.

You simply need to chose the _RIGHT_ drive or play off the hard drive. The problems with playing DVDs are usually not with Linux, they are with the DVDs being massively bastardised by Macrovision. As a result if you got the "wrong" DVD drive it will fail to read under anything - Windows, Linux, MacOS, etc.
If you rip it all problems disappear. All my DVDs are actually stored on a file server in the loft. I got tired of dealing with scratches, dirt, Macrovision or simply trying to find the right DVD to watch.

Re:Juh? (1)

nawcom (941663) | about 6 years ago | (#23074180)

I think you are supposed to look at Windows as the Robin Hood of operating systems. Doing a bad thing, but for the good.. ermm.... well. Supposedly for the good of the people.

All in perspective. Think communism, I guess. Okay, so maybe this should be the other way around, with Windows "destroying the desktop". Helps the plot make more sense.

Though we already know about the true outcome of that.

Heh! (1)

jd (1658) | about 6 years ago | (#23074510)

Windows is more like the Sherrif of Nottingham or (even closer) King John. In fact, if I understand the plot correctly, it is Linux that is being declared the outlaw. (Mind you, the Geste of Robin Hood is pretty violent and both sides are guilty of what would today be considered war-crimes. Robin Hood, at one point, bumps off kids who could be witnesses, for example. The most Linux could be said to have bumped off is the MACH-based version of HURD, but I think that's usually considered a mercy killing.)

Re:Juh? (1)

martin-boundary (547041) | about 6 years ago | (#23074696)

I think you are supposed to look at Windows as the Robin Hood of operating systems.
It's true! He lives in the woods, where, err, chairs are made.

Re:Juh? (1)

Per Abrahamsen (1397) | about 6 years ago | (#23074468)

You understand that Linux is an alternative to Windows, not an alternative to the desktop, and that the allegory therefore is flawed.
 

Muhahahaha (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074152)

I'll show them! I'll show them all! ...my source code

Re:Muhahahaha (4, Funny)

bky1701 (979071) | about 6 years ago | (#23074216)

We need to stop Doctor GPL! he wants to allow everyone to see everyone else's privates, and give them a way to directly modify them! His perversion of source code everywhere must be stopped, but who...

meh (5, Insightful)

wizardforce (1005805) | about 6 years ago | (#23074184)

'Windows wants to be on every computer desktop in the world, but Linux and Stane want to destroy the desktop.'
he seems to be operating under the assumption that Windows *is* the desktop. Even in that case, he is disasterously wrong. Linux isn't out to destroy Windows as in the words of Linus himself: "Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect."

Google? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074282)

Well, maybe Stane doesn't like desktop applications. Maybe the web is his thing and he wants to move everything to the cloud.

Maybe Stane is Google. :-)

Re:Google? (1)

jd (1658) | about 6 years ago | (#23074522)

But... but... Google doesn't do evil. It must be true, because I searched for it - on Google.

Re:meh (5, Insightful)

TuringTest (533084) | about 6 years ago | (#23074466)

After I RTFA, is more like he assumes that Iron Man is Windows. He uses the Windows/Linux comparison as a metaphor of the kind of fight than Tony Stark will have to face in this story arc:

He's the open source to Stark's closed source oppressiveness. He has no headquarters, no base, and no bank account. He's a true ghost in the machine; completely off the grid, flexible, and mobile. That absolutely flies in the face of Tony's received business wisdom and in the way business is done. There are banks and lawyers and you have facilities and testing. Stane is a much more different animal. He's a much smarter, more mobile and much quicker to respond and evolved futurist.

Wow (4, Funny)

kamapuaa (555446) | about 6 years ago | (#23074202)

I can see Comic books and open source uniting, working together to keep geeks around the world from getting laid.

Re:Wow (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074384)

I'm not sure which scares me more. The truth of that statement, or the fact that it was modded insightful.

Man, and I though piracy was bad (1)

CrazyJim1 (809850) | about 6 years ago | (#23074208)

Now they're making open source to look bad? I'll have to download this movie wearing my tinfoil turban.

Re:Man, and I though piracy was bad (3, Informative)

CrazyJim1 (809850) | about 6 years ago | (#23074264)

I re-read the summary, the article, and some of the CBR forum stuff. I misunderstood that the movie isn't going to portray Open Source as being fuel for terrorism, but instead it is the new comic book.

Tony Starks armor clearly runs on Vista (1)

Reed Solomon (897367) | about 6 years ago | (#23074220)

Why else does it get shut down and fail so often?

Bah. I don't care. I barely read any Marvel anymore anyways. Heck I don't care enough to even download them illegally that's how disinterested I am. They cancelled anything I liked. Cable/Deadpool and Thunderbolts were the last two things I was reading. I'm just barely hanging on with Thunderbolts at this point. Hopefully they bring back the original team before its too late and I don't care anymore. Though I always imagined the Fixer as being a BSD user.

I'll stick to DC and their "hack the gibson" take on computer hacking. Save us Oracle!

We already have that (4, Funny)

hcmtnbiker (925661) | about 6 years ago | (#23074238)

But we already have Linux Super Villian. [ubergeek.tv]

Re:We already have that (4, Funny)

TheVelvetFlamebait (986083) | about 6 years ago | (#23074428)

If i had one dollar for every brain you dont have, i would have $1.
Let's see...

In a theoretically infinite universe, there are theoretically infinite objects that could be considered brains. If I only didn't have one brain, then that means I have all but one of the infinite brains out there, which would imply, at the very least, that I would be much, much smarter than you.

Where did you get that sig anyway? Some insult from some online forum?

(Mods, this is the entertainment section. There's no great need to be strictly on-topic, right? ;)

Epiphany and Switcheroo (4, Interesting)

Dr_Barnowl (709838) | about 6 years ago | (#23074248)

If you ask me, the plot is ripe for a twist ; Stark discovers that Stane is actually the good guy, and that the massed legions of commercial software are colluding with the hardware manufacturers in a plan to take over the worlds computers by putting secret encryption keys on the motherboards and only permitting "approved" software to run.

Re:Epiphany and Switcheroo (2, Insightful)

Gideon Fubar (833343) | about 6 years ago | (#23074298)

This supports Marvel's "what a twist!" plot generator perfectly. Tony will be forced to choose between his loyalty to his industrial forbears and the good of all humanity.

Of course, his character is a raging, womanizing alcoholic who regularly gets blackmailed for things he's actually done.. Hold on.. which one is the good guy again?

Re:Epiphany and Switcheroo (1)

mcvos (645701) | about 6 years ago | (#23074446)

Exactly. Even TFA calls him oppressive for hanging on to his secret revolutionary technology that could change the world, for being unable to trust others with that technology. Tony Stark is proprietary technology personified.

The only reason he's a hero at all is because he has his own comic book. Besides, I never liked Iron Man anyway.

Re:Epiphany and Switcheroo (1)

Neoncow (802085) | about 6 years ago | (#23074464)

Hold on.. which one is the good guy again?
Get your stinking code away from me, you damned dirty nerd!

Some Villain (5, Funny)

lusiphur69 (455824) | about 6 years ago | (#23074290)

I find it hard to look at the concept as menacing.

"We're going to provide Linux free of charge to anyone! MUHAHAHAHA!"

"Beware my open source laser! Powered by the distilled tears of Microsoft execs, it will cut you out of vendor lock-in!"

Or better, Stark teams up with Microsoft to combat the 'threat', then, during a battle as Iron Man powers up his blaster, the HUD flashes..

  WinIRON.sys
  The driver is attempting to access memory beyond the end of the
  allocation.
  Stop: 0x000000D6
  (0x89781000, 0x00000000, 0xBF82683F, 0x00000000)
  WinIRON.sys address BF82683F base at BF80000

Re:Some Villain (1)

jd (1658) | about 6 years ago | (#23074538)

But your lasers are fitted to sharks on rocket-powered planes in the clouds with lightning bolts and... and... and I can't get the rest of the front page into this, damnit!

Thanks for ruining Iron Man even more (4, Informative)

Mex (191941) | about 6 years ago | (#23074314)

First they make him the mastermind of the whole Civil War saga, for sending Hulk into space(which admittedly was a cool series, but it made Iron Man the bad guy), and responsible for Captain America's death, and now this?

Iron Man was my fave character (A smooth but smart dude), but he's gone to shit in the past few years.

Thanks, Marvel.

In (still) other news (5, Interesting)

Torodung (31985) | about 6 years ago | (#23074346)

Iron Man will be renaming himself "Palladium," fighting to keep your computer trustworthy against open terror!

I will be smelling stale milk for weeks after putting it out my nose laughing. I guess the "Heroes Happen Here" stuff isn't taking off?

--
Toro

(Note: I believe this article was about a new comic book, not the movie [imdb.com], which features "Iron Monger" (Jeff Bridges as Obadiah Stane) as the enemy.)

[[UAC warning: Someone is making a schizoid post! mod Funny or Informative? Yeah, you should probably just click "ignore" ;^)]]

Marvel Civil War (terrorist or freedom fighter?) (1)

Per Abrahamsen (1397) | about 6 years ago | (#23074450)

I didn't follow the "Marvel Civil War" but saw some of the ads, and I got the impression that Iron Man was the leader of the "government oppression" side.

So if they take the "ones man terrorist is another mans freedom fighter" point of view, this doesn't have to be bad. A supervillian using free software tactics (grassroots, openness, transparency, collaboration) to destroy Tony Starks (closed, hierarchical, corrupt) economic empire.

Carefully choosing words (4, Insightful)

BRSloth (578824) | about 6 years ago | (#23074472)

From the article:

Whether in the boardroom or on the battlefield, most of the opponents Iron Man confronts usually have some sort of ties to society and politics; ties which Stark has often used to his advantage. But Zeke Stane is a very different sort of enemy than what Stark is used to. "Zeke is a post-national business man and kind of an open source ideological terrorist," explained Fraction, appropriately putting the contrast into software terms. "He has absolutely no loyalty to any sort of law, creed, or credo. He doesn't want to beat Tony Stark, he wants to make him obsolete. Windows wants to be on every computer desktop in the world, but Linux and Stane want to destroy the desktop. He's the open source to Stark's closed source oppressiveness. He has no headquarters, no base, and no bank account. He's a true ghost in the machine; completely off the grid, flexible, and mobile. That absolutely flies in the face of Tony's received business wisdom and in the way business is done. There are banks and lawyers and you have facilities and testing. Stane is a much more different animal. He's a much smarter, more mobile and much quicker to respond and evolved futurist."
Yeah, it sounds bad. But then you find "he's the open source to Stark's closed source oppressiveness. [...] He's a tru ghost in the machine; completely off the grid, flexible and mobile." Makes you almost like the guy already.

Wait Wait... (1)

Comatose51 (687974) | about 6 years ago | (#23074480)

And his sidekick is WikiMan, disseminating forbidden knowledge everywhere for... free! Everyone knows that knowledge is power and by giving knowledge to everyone WikiMan is giving everyone power, thus destroying the foundation of capitalistic society and opening the doors to... Communism! Oh no, the Cold War is back!

Reminder of CHICK (1)

Andtalath (1074376) | about 6 years ago | (#23074528)

This truly reminds me of CHICKs view on DnD, it seems like a way to demonize an entire business branch by placing a character within the constraints and making it unreasonably evil. Seriously, haven't the propaganda people learned that using blatantly stupid characters to destroy something in the end only gives the subject increased exposure which makes people ask and learn about it? Seems like a really stupid antagonist, unless Tony wins be learning a lesson and start applying the good ideas of his opponent to make his own products stronger.

what's next? (1)

nguy (1207026) | about 6 years ago | (#23074544)

Geez, don't these people get that lowering the price of a product (even down to zero) is (1) what the free market is supposed to accomplish, and (2) good for everybody other than the people who keep selling overpriced shit?

What's next? Mother Theresa terrorists try to destroy the food industry by giving away free soup to the poor?

RTFA (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074546)

If you actually RTFA he is just using open source/closed source as metaphor.
Do you really this the world of entertainment really gives a fuck about the tensions between open and closed source?
Slashdot - News for nerds detached from reality.

Sounds like MS "Evangelism" to me. (2, Interesting)

Anti-Trend (857000) | about 6 years ago | (#23074634)

I can really only think of one company that would be "terrorized" by open source...

Ironic, really. One would think Steve Ballmer [wikimedia.org] would be the ideal anti-hero.

Don't let your children watch or read crap (2, Funny)

Tuqui (96668) | about 6 years ago | (#23074640)

Well, this is a good reason to prohibit your children to read comic crap.

and his new side kick freetard boy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074702)

Proof that Linux is bad its got its own supervillan. :-p

These kinds of things frighten me (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#23074722)

These kinds of things frighten me because:

a) The people involved seem really adamant about something
b) You read the link, in it's entirety and you have no idea why
c) Worse, when you read it rationally, it makes no sense what they're talking about. It's like a random jumble of words
d) No, I'm not joking.
e) An open source terrorist? Sit down, deep breath. That's a random collection of words. Were there only closed source terrorists before?
f) People really are frightening after all.

I'm speechless (2, Insightful)

bersl2 (689221) | about 6 years ago | (#23074738)

Gut reaction: lynch mob time.
Read TFForumPost: Wow... I thought I got nerdy with my fandoms...
Read more: Damn, they moved on quickly. lol @ suggestion of hero/villain alignment switch
Read the /. comments: ...

I got nothin'.

Fact check on aisle 4. Fact check on aisle 4. (2, Informative)

The Evil Couch (621105) | about 6 years ago | (#23074742)

"In a recent CBR interview about his new continuation of the Marvel comic-book series 'Invincible Iron Man,' Matt Faction provides information about the the new series (debut will be May 7).
The writer's name is Matt FRACTION.

Uhm... (1)

kitsunewarlock (971818) | about 6 years ago | (#23074822)

Considering the "secret" of Iron Man's suit has been an issue in the past (especially when it was sentient...wait, is it still sentient?...bah forget it), the idea that someone who'd want all code everywhere to be open source would be an important issue. After all, if Titanium Man was able to upgrade his suit using the software of Iron Man (note that Titanium Man's hardware is many times better than Iron Man's already...). Crazy Russians and their open source... (sorry, inside joke with my Russian co-worker).

But yeah, another Armor Wars would be a bad thing, from Iron Man's point of view at least.
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