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Senator Proposes to Monitor All P2P Traffic for Illegal Files

Zonk posted more than 6 years ago | from the kind-of-strains-the-mind-to-think-about-huh dept.

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mytrip writes "Senator Joe Biden (D-Del) has proposed an ambitious plan, costing on the order of $1 billion, aimed at curtailing illegal activities via P2P networks. His plan involves utilizing new software to monitor peer-to-peer traffic on an ongoing basis. 'At an afternoon Senate Judiciary subcommittee hearing about child exploitation on the Internet, Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.) said he was under the impression it's "pretty easy to pick out the person engaged in either transmitting or downloading violent scenes of rape, molestation" simply by looking at file names. He urged use of those techniques by investigators to help nab the most egregious offenders."

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And people ask why I support Jesse Ventura? (5, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103156)

Republicans belong to big business and the wealthy. Democrats belong to trial lawyers and Hollywood. And BOTH of them want to spy on me, tell me what I can and can't do on the internet, and use the government to impose their interest groups' agendas on me by force. And between big business and Hollywood, they're both just *aching* to crack down on file sharing, DRM circumvention, or anything that doesn't make some studio money, prop up a lethagic music industry and their 80's-era Compact Discs, or protect an overextended movie industry and their overpriced "tentpole" movies.

Fuck them. Fuck them both.

Re:And people ask why I support Jesse Ventura? (4, Insightful)

CogDissident (951207) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103312)

So, he has a "unique serial number" that always identifies a computer. But won't tell anyone how he got it. I'm guessing that they're assuming a MAC address is unique, even though it can be spoofed.

In any case, all the more reason to use the TOR network.

Re:And people ask why I support Jesse Ventura? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23103510)

I hear the snow is starting to melt in Canada at this time of year. :-)

Illegal wiretaps anyone (0, Troll)

trowlFAZ (131369) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103554)

So, bad to spy on terrorists, good to spy on citizens????? Or is it just good when Dems do it and bad when Repubs do it?

I think some lefty, looser, commie, pinkos need to take a look who and what they are trying to control.

Vote them all out of office and get some libertarians in there.

Re:And people ask why I support Jesse Ventura? (3, Insightful)

mastershake_phd (1050150) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103578)

Republicans belong to big business and the wealthy. Democrats belong to trial lawyers and Hollywood. And BOTH of them want to spy on me, tell me what I can and can't do everywhere, and use the government to impose their interest groups' agendas on me by force. And between big business and Hollywood, they're both just *aching* to crack down on file sharing, DRM circumvention, or anything that doesn't make some studio money, prop up a lethagic music industry and their 80's-era Compact Discs, or protect an overextended movie industry and their overpriced "tentpole" movies.

Fuck them. Fuck them both.

There, fixed that for you.

Re:And people ask why I support Jesse Ventura? (2, Funny)

neersign (956437) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103644)

and both Reps and Dems continually find ways to waste my money and tax me more. Some of the things these people come up with is absolutely ridiculous. Did you know that in Maryland, our senate/congress just passed a very important bill to name our official state cake? Seriously. These people get payed with our tax dollars to sit in a room and discuss these things, and they just raised our state sales tax because they have so many more excellent things to talk about. Thank you for wasting my money, Government, because I can't think of a better way to spend it myself.

Re:And people ask why I support Jesse Ventura? (1)

kylehase (982334) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103650)

I'd say most lawyers and hollywood are wealthy so everyone is republican. Finally! Hillary and Obama can stop fighting.

And I'm sure . . . (2, Insightful)

base3 (539820) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103176)

. . . this dragnet surveillance "for the children" would never be used to enforce copyright. Right, Senator RIAA?

Biden's not Senator RIAA (5, Insightful)

Reality Master 201 (578873) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103334)

He's the senator from MBNA and Citibank.

Totally different.

Re:Biden's not Senator RIAA (1)

Pig Hogger (10379) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103610)

He's the senator from MBNA and Citibank.
Well, he's from Delarare [wikipedia.org] , no?

Re:And I'm sure . . . (0)

lorenzo.boccaccia (1263310) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103400)

also what if I share a file named britney last success and then share the same file as rape murder xxx? everybody searching for brestnay should then jailed no question asked?

Re:And I'm sure . . . (4, Insightful)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103462)

pretty easy to pick out the person engaged in either transmitting or downloading violent scenes of rape, molestation
Would that also mean monitoring someone downloading, say.. The Sopranos, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, any hentai whatsoever.. and so on and so forth? :P

Re:And I'm sure . . . (4, Insightful)

zappepcs (820751) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103452)

You are exactly right in your suspicions, get ready for darknet p2p programs to start popping up all around us. When Mr. Biden asks what a darknet is, I hope he is summarily ejected from public office. Subsequent to this law, the information on the internet made available to share via darknets will in turn make its way to those who would share materials that are illegal, so the end result is nearly zero. Some idiots will always get caught, but they are just as likely to get caught without this law.

Anyone with his position should have enough intelligence to seek out smart people and see what can be done sensibly. Of course, all his intelligence is in his wallet; which is (un)fortunately under his ass most of the time.

It really is time to get rid of big business lobbyists. Their damage to the US is unfathomably huge. Time for open lobbying, not dissimilar to having to post your lobbying requests on the legislator's wiki site for all to see.

We need a LOT more transparency in the influences on legislators. Clearly.

This legislation is being promoted without clear evidence that it is needed. Where is the supporting evidence to show that this legislation will stop what it is intended to stop? How will it stop those from posting to the Internet from countries where the material is not illegal? There is no evidence to support it. If there is, the law is not needed. They can use the evidence they already have to arrest those guilty of the supposed crimes. Fucking idiots.

What an asshat. Yes, your child can click on the 'download britany spears' link and get childporn. Those filenames are ALWAYS accurate. Damn, even the **AA were using wrong filenames to spoil P2P sharing.

WHAT!?! (5, Funny)

Ceiynt (993620) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103184)

pretty easy to pick out the person engaged in either transmitting or downloading violent scenes of rape, molestation" simply by looking at file names. Ok, so all my Metallica files will be relabled (Not Metallica_Not Illegal file_Ignore). That should keep the feds off me.

Re:WHAT!?! (3, Insightful)

Swizec (978239) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103270)

Even though at first glance it might seem filenames aren't that important, it's actually a pretty good heuristic method to gauge what a file might contain.

This is because people are hardwired to organising their stuff. A filename by the name of "rapeMe" is far easier to find when you need id than the same file, but named "rU2:s" don't you think?

Now, since people are also lazy they forget to rename these files before transmiting them.

Sure, the method is not perfect and yes sooner or later filenames will be randomly generated when transmiting by P2P clients themselves, but until then the method provides a good guess as to who needs further inspection.

Re:WHAT!?! (4, Funny)

LMacG (118321) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103414)

Hmmmmm, what am I going to do with this file therapist.avi?

Re:WHAT!?! (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103476)

Uh oh, someone sent me Rape Me by Nirvana on Windows Live a few months ago... am I going to go to jail?

Don't worry. I renamed one of yours for Sen. Biden (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23103280)

MetallicasGreatestHitsCrackedByJoeBiden.mp3

I wonder what Sen. Biden will do now. :)

Re:WHAT!?! (4, Funny)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103498)

I propose using "JoeBiden_[number].jpg" as a generic filename for all pornographic material.

Re:WHAT!?! (1)

sm62704 (957197) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103652)

The problem, as you put it, is determining what's in a file. Who's going to share a file called "kiddie_porn.zip"?

The problem is for those looking for particular LEGAL tunes the independant artist WANTS shared. You may be trying to find an indie song named scatterbrain. Do you have any idea how many dfferent songs have that name? You may not know the name of the band doing a particular song, and there may be three songs with that name, two of which may be RIAA songs. And lets face it, THAT'S what this is aimed at, killing the indies. I don't believe for a minute the RIAA really believes their own bullshit that downloading Britney Spears songs is ruining the market for Britney Spears. Every reputable study says otherwise, that downloads INCREASE sales rather than hurting them.

And violent scenes of rape? I guess it's now illegal to own a copy of Sudden Impact [wikipedia.org] or High Plains Drifter [wikipedia.org] ?

I was stationed in Dover in the Air Force from 1971 to 1973, now I have one more reason to hate Biden's God-forsaken state. Thanks, Joe, I'd about forgotten about your little hellhole. Now, why would a Senator from Deleware care about the MAFIAA? I'd say it's one more reason to outlaw "contributing to" (bribing) a candidate one is ineligible to vote for.

-mcgrew

Tags (5, Insightful)

Jaysyn (203771) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103194)

I've never seen a better use for the "whatcouldpossiblygowrong" tag in my life.

Re:Tags (2)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103492)

I think "peopleunclearontheconcept" is more like it.

"simply by looking at the filenames"


while (conscious)
      head->desk();

Re:Tags (3, Insightful)

MozeeToby (1163751) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103562)

How about a new tag, maybe... naive. Seriously, the way the government does stuff it would cost a billion just to implement what he's proposing. And we all know that child porn addicts never use encryption or, God Forbid, change the name of the files from "kiddy porn101" to "my cool bands music".

I live in Delaware. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23103198)

The guy just likes to hear himself talk. He's had more failed attempts at the presidential nomination than Ralf Nader running for the Presidency.

Ananymous Coward (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23103200)

Wait... so all I have to do to transfer kiddy porn via p2p is change the name of the file?

Re:Ananymous Coward (2, Insightful)

mindwhip (894744) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103360)

I guess so. And all you need to do is call it knoppix.iso and you will either go unnoticed or will give the government so much work impounding every PC that has ever legally downloaded the popular Linux distro by P2P, as well as making criminals of all the people who download the kiddy porn by accident.

Aw jeez Joe... (3, Funny)

beavis88 (25983) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103204)

And here I have been giving you credit for not being a total tool. How wrong I was...

Post Attachment: Cowboy_Neal_Riding_Congressman.jpg

I understand now (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23103208)

I understand how these politicians can't get a handle on terrorism, crime, drugs etc.

They think the people that deal in them are as stupid as they themselves are.

What light through yonder window breaks? Tis the clarity of seeing people for what they truely are: idiots.

File names?? (4, Insightful)

ChuBie (945413) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103210)

He wants the filtering done on file names?? Is he serious? That would be one of the easiest filters to get around.

Re:File names?? (0)

Akita24 (1080779) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103392)

Why not? The biggest software house on the planet does exactly that. Hell they manage to put all of the "smarts" into a 3 letter file extension! Come to think of it, if he got M$ to contribute to his project not only could they pare the whole thing down to file extension (.wmv, .asf, .mp4 ?) but they could probably fast-track an I$O spec for the technology!

Re:File names?? (4, Insightful)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103506)

Uhh.. you can just hit Shift and lowercase s.. don't need to press shift 4 to get a capital S. Are you related to Twitter by any chance?

Re:File names?? (1)

Mongoose Disciple (722373) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103568)

not only could they pare the whole thing down to file extension (.wmv, .asf, .mp4 ?) but they could probably fast-track an I$O spec for the technology!

I, for one, welcome .prn files as an international standard.

Hmmm - just rename the files (2, Funny)

GuyverDH (232921) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103212)

Give them all names like "Senator Joe Biden's Personal Photo and Video Stash.tbz"

Remember, Kids (0, Flamebait)

Apple Acolyte (517892) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103218)

Think twice (and then three or four times for good measure) the next time someone tells you to vote Democrat in order to protect your rights. The Republicans may not be more than a couple of hairs better, but at least this boner didn't come from a Republican.

Re:Remember, Kids (2, Insightful)

dreamchaser (49529) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103298)

Yeah. One party will try to enslave us just slightly faster than the other. It's so nice having a clear choice. (sarcasm intended)

Re:Remember, Kids (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23103482)

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

Re:Remember, Kids (5, Insightful)

Pig Hogger (10379) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103444)

Think twice (and then three or four times for good measure) the next time someone tells you to vote Democrat in order to protect your rights.
Anybody who votes republican whilst not being a zillionaire is a sucker. Plain and simple. One who has swallowed the total lie that republicans are less tax-happy than the democrats. Democrats tax now, but republicans tax later by inflating deficits and the debt.

Don't believe me? Google for US federal deficit charts...

Re:Remember, Kids (4, Insightful)

SatanicPuppy (611928) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103454)

Dems always suck on IP issues and censorship. That's been the case for decades. They think of the children waaaay too much.

On the other hand, republicans also suck for censorship (dems hate violence, repubs hate boobies), and they are far more likely to get "decency-style" laws passed, than infringe on individual liberty...If you can't buy booze on a Sunday in your state, somewhere, there is a Republican to thank.

Re:Remember, Kids (1)

Borealis (84417) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103500)

Ignorance of technology is unfortunately not something limited to a single party. Most of our current crop of politicians fail to comprehend technology pretty much across the board.

While Luddite bashing is a fun pastime, and probably well deserved in this case, it is probably best used when reserved for individuals, not political parties.

Re:Remember, Kids (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23103598)

One must always be wary of poorly thought out ideas regardless of where they are from. That being said, you have to make choices in life, and on balance the Democrats currently get more things right than they get wrong.

For instance they will probably end the war in Iraq eventually. They will probably begin reverse some of the abuses of civil liberty like domestic surveillance. They will probably be guided by the spirit of laws more than the previous administration. In other words, they won't look for a unique legal loophole or redefinition of terms by a friendly attorney general to make things like torture legal by redefining everything they want to do as not torture. On the environment they are way better, even if some seem to be following the questionable cult of clean coal. On health care they are of course better, and by reducing the cost of that to people the economy should improve.

At any rate the list goes on for quite awhile. Just because Biden tosses out something poorly thought out, doesn't suddenly make it a good idea to vote for the Republicans. Of course children must be protected, but that particular idea seems dubious at best.

On the other hand, I think we need to be very very careful of the limits we put on communication. Once a monitoring process is in place for one thing, it becomes quite easy to abuse it to monitor communications that would be inconvenient to those in power, which is again why these ultra powerful domestic surveillance schemes are such a concern.

Re:Remember, Kids (5, Insightful)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103606)

How the fuck do you expect voting for one of two parties is going to represent the majority of your views? I live in the UK, and I'm fed up of random slashdotters flaming republican this, democrat that, can you please explain what the actual difference is? I've seen more than one person point out that there is none, and I wouldn't find that hard to believe. I think as far as democracy is concerned, people should be able to vote on invidual laws and such (if they consider that law important) rather than vote one party every few years and expect to have things go the way they're wanting them to. Does it really matter whether this guy is Republican or Democrat? I'm sure there are plenty of idiots in both parties..

Apologies for the slightly trollish nature of my post, but it's really pissing me off seeing this inane republican vs democrat stuff, it's like racism or something, except the fairly arbitrary divide being which set of self-important morons you vote for instead of place of birth/skin colour. Admittedly you do have a choice who to vote for, but in the end there are always gonna be problems no matter who you vote for, under the current system at least.

Ponies, puppies, and pumpkin pie (R13 ;) (2, Insightful)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103222)

encr, lbhgu, puvyq, nff, shpx, cvff, yvpx, gbegher, encr, crrcrr, qhatrba, fubj, gryy, gbhpu, gvr, ovaq, fgevc, fcnax, fyvpr, oyrrq, qevax, fvfgre, oebgure, 8, 11, wvmm, ovgpu, fhpx, onfu, xvyy

Re:Ponies, puppies, and pumpkin pie (R13 ;) (1)

JJNess (1238668) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103276)

"Hey Joe, this BadAnalogyGuy is downloading some weird shit... "encr, lbhgu, puvyq..." well at least none of it looks like porn. We won't worry about him... "But throw him in to the terrorist watch list, just in case."

Re:Ponies, puppies, and pumpkin pie (R13 ;) (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103624)

*jaunts along to rot13.com* ARGH, MEIN AUGEN!!! :s

Have fun with that (0, Redundant)

BlueParrot (965239) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103224)

Seeing that you could quite arguably claim that TCP is a "peer to peer" network he may need some storage space...

ugh (4, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103234)

I hate it when they can't keep the script straight. The dems are supposed to be the stupid ones, the republicans are supposed to be the evil ones. Quit horning in on their territory!

Re:ugh (1)

wizkid (13692) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103434)


I don't want to disappoint you, but stupidity is shared by both republicans and democrats these days. But then, so is greed which is part of the cause of the stupidity.

Wait wait... (1)

techpawn (969834) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103236)

pretty easy to pick out the person engaged in either transmitting or downloading violent scenes of rape, molestation" simply by looking at file names
BWAHAHAHAHA! Oh? He's serious? Well, I guess Windows.exe is really used to let sunlight in my house, eh?

He's a windbag (1)

Woundweavr (37873) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103240)

Joe Biden has an overinflated sense of importance. Thats what this comes down to. He loves having his name in the news and doesn't seem to mind if its over being dumb.

Clueless! (1)

p51d007 (656414) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103242)

Don't you just love when politicians try to pass a "law" on a subject they have absolutely no idea about? This leftwing dingbat probably thinks the internet is a bunch of tubes, has no idea how to use a computer or even a cell phone.

Re:Clueless! (1)

lastchance_000 (847415) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103388)

Hmmm. You think he came up with this himself?

Re:Clueless! (1)

msim (220489) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103458)

Alas you beat me to using a "tubes" reference, good day to you sir.

Aside from the issues with logistics and the whole impact on the USA's beloved "freedom" (im not from the us, so i use this term loosely) the repercussions this thing would have for all sorts of other traffic if this thing EVER got off the ground, is horrifying.

The other disgusting thing about this is if they did try and push it forward, imagine the sheer cost of putting this thing together, even if they find halfway trough it isn't feasable and have to shelve it. Just remember when they say "it'll cost a billion" i would say its a safe bet that you could double that figure, what a waste.

Filenames, eh? (1)

EricWright (16803) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103250)

I see two approaches here... name every file you transmit a) fluffykitten.jpg or b) underageSexDrugsRockRoll.mpg depending on the actual content

Of Course (4, Interesting)

gx5000 (863863) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103256)

Of course they can do this... They can also stop spam dead in its router or switch feeds... We know where the viruses are originating from, and spam and and and... Since these greasy rogues produce over 90% of the e-mail, then one can take from that that they're also paying big bills to do this... The Golden rule persists, and this InterTubeTechnocrat hasn't a clue.... The thing is probably a work around for the FCC accounting which states that ISP's cannot restrict (reads choke P2P) network feed or else they lose their blanket immunity to prosecution on content.... this guy is trying to build them a trap door...ain't gonna work.

Re:Of Course (1)

mini me (132455) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103548)

Since these greasy rogues produce over 90% of the e-mail, then one can take from that that they're also paying big bills to do this...

Why pay big bills when you can just hijack someone else's computer to do the work for you?

Re:Of Course (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23103638)

You're not paying for the machines you compromise. You're paying for your ISP to not disconnect you while you compromise.

Finally (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23103272)

An excellent use of the senator's time.

To paraphrase Will Rodgers -- The Country is now safe, the senate is focusing on reviewing P2P traffic.

impossible w/o outlawing encryption (3, Insightful)

davidwr (791652) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103274)

If encryption is used, you can't do it.

If monitoring is heavy-handed AND encryption isn't illegal, it will be used.

The net effect: Wasted CPU time for encryption/decryption.

Wasted CPU time (1)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103496)

Heh, and Wasted CPU time translates to an environmental issue, so the EPA will probably be able to ban that with some bureaucratic regulation rather than going thru the bother of law.

Re:impossible w/o outlawing encryption (1)

geekymachoman (1261484) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103560)

Wasted 1 Billion. Never mind cpu time.

Re:impossible w/o outlawing encryption (1)

brunascle (994197) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103580)

not necessarily. encryption will prevent them from packet sniffing, but they could still just pretend to be another filesharer: join the same network you're on, search for files, and see who's sharing them. unless, of course, you're using some kind of darknet, with only people you trust.

Re:impossible w/o outlawing encryption (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23103628)

And wasted CPU time = Wasted energy = Higher gas prices and global warming. When observed over the long term, an effort to save one child will ultimately doom every child.

Great plan there, Senator.

Uh-oh... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23103282)

...I suppose I should stop sharing the file US_Govt_Rapes_Citizens_Rights.doc lest I be marked as one of "the most egregious offenders"

*ahem* (0, Offtopic)

to_kallon (778547) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103310)

He urged use of those techniques by investigators to help nab the most egregious offenders.

it is pronounced "egregious [youtube.com] "
(sorry for the quality, best i could do on short notice)

Keep the voters ignorant (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23103314)

Real issues: economy, environment, crime, international relations

Distraction issues: file sharing, gay marriage, abortion, drugs, bosnian snipers

Re:Keep the voters ignorant (1)

EmperorKagato (689705) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103406)

Real issues: economy, environment, crime, international relations Distraction issues: file sharing, gay marriage, abortion, drugs, bosnian snipers
More Distraction issues: racism, The Pope, American Idol, elitism

Re:Keep the voters ignorant (1)

gx5000 (863863) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103440)

I bow to you sir.... Truly, to the point. Good show.

Re:Keep the voters ignorant (1)

lorenzo.boccaccia (1263310) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103466)

please think of the children!

Likely proposed by the ISPs (4, Interesting)

ween14 (827520) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103316)

If I was an ISP who wanted to slow the use of P2P on my network, I only have a few options.

Comcast tried the first option, which is to drop the connections. The outrage on tech sites was massive, and eventually led to them being investigated by the FCC.

Barring that option, why not put the burden on the government to handle the filtering. Heck, that is even better because now you don't have to pay for it anymore, your customers pay for it through their taxes.

Re:Likely proposed by the ISPs (1)

gx5000 (863863) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103396)

Because we want a free flowing source of information...
We don't want a regulated and policed Network.
We want the Feds OUT of our PUBLIC lives....
And like I said, this is a off the hook for the ISP's...
Before they go and start this crap, let them show us they can stamp
out Trojans, Viruses and Spam (Oh my), then maybe we, the Tech community,
will lose support for the openeness of the Internet and we'll get their
"secured" and "tiered" Internet.

The man's a genius! (0, Troll)

InfinityWpi (175421) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103318)

My god, it's so simple! Why didn't anyone think of doing this earlier?

Let's hope the perverts and cirminals out there aren't as smart as he is, they may try changing filenames...

Rick Roll opportunity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23103326)

Quick! Everyone get a Rick Roll clip on your Limewire named ViolentRape.mpg!

From now on... (3, Funny)

zerocool^ (112121) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103336)

From now on, I'm renaming all the tarballs I package.

tar -cvf XXX-9yo-boys-blowjobs-and-crystal-meth.tar dovecot-1.0-stable/

~Wx

Re:From now on... (4, Funny)

kotj.mf (645325) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103410)

> tar -cvf XXX-9yo-boys-blowjobs-and-crystal-meth.tar dovecot-1.0-stable/

I was thinking something more along the lines of:

cp never_gonna_give_you_up.avi XXX-9yo-boys-blowjobs-and-crystal-meth.avi

Meta tags (1)

headkase (533448) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103342)

Remember when search engines used to rely on Meta tags? Yeah this is a brilliant plan. There should be a new rule: if you don't know what your talking about when you make a *law* then you get five lashes.

How 'bout some quid pro quo (5, Insightful)

0xdeadbeef (28836) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103356)

I propose we monitor all government communication for evidence of corruption.

Re:How 'bout some quid pro quo (1)

Ekhymosis (949557) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103596)

Unfortunately in our police state, this might be considered an act of terrorism or some stupid thing like that. "you don't trust your government, ergo you are unpatriotic, ergo you are a terrorist." oh how far has the US fallen.

Re:How 'bout some quid pro quo (1)

Thanshin (1188877) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103642)

I propose we monitor all government communication for evidence of corruption.
"Ok, but you can only read those with "kiddie porn" in the title." ...

"No! Wait!"

Flood 'em out (1)

greedyturtle (968401) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103366)

If everyone starts putting their crappy family videos of their kids online, I can see a ton of false positives.

But if there's any good, preexisting reason for this to be stopped, This could start happening in America too:

  Having Your ID Stolen Leads to Job Loss, Prosecution [slashdot.org]

Seems easy enough.... (2, Funny)

spookymonster (238226) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103380)

... we wait for the Senators to open the file "report_on_perverts_downloading_rape_and_molestation_files.doc" and then BAM! arrest the whole lot of them.

Genius, I tell ya!

What a freakin' tool... (1)

Jinky (565098) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103398)

Because no one at all knows about using TOR or encrypting your connections.

Contents of file unknown to downloader? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23103402)

I can't imagine this reasonably passing legal muster. I'm sure our legislators will be happy to pass laws on it anyway, to be quickly overturned by the judicial branch. But the problem here is that in most cases, there's no way to know that the real contents of a file are before downloading and viewing it.

If you see a file on p2p (or a link on a website) that says "hot teens" or "rape" or "incest", how many of those are in any way illegal? I'd say less than 5%.

Most "hot teens" are 27-year-old porn stars with their bleached blonde hair in pigtails. Most "rape" videos are fantasy videos recorded by porn studios as "teacher and student" or "boss and employee" and are pretty obviously porn stars making a not-remotely-passable performance as a rape victim?

But then, there's still that 5%. How many of us have clicked on a random link or downloaded a random torrent only to find a picture of a donkey or a 10-year old doing things that really are (and should be!) illegal? It's been a lot rarer since I stopped checking usenet porn groups, but still.

I can't imagine a conviction on "this person clicked a link that just happened to turn out to be illegal" being held up in court.

I propose (0)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103404)

that we trash all those idiots who voted for this man.

This reminds me of a dilbert cartoon (2, Insightful)

UberHoser (868520) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103412)

Where he creates a (filter or firewall or program) to stop a 12 year old in finding 'naughty pictures' on the net. Then you hear a boinging sound and Dilbert says "I hope that is not his eyes popping out'. Lets face the facts. Anyone can build something to get by any type of restrictions on the net. Period.

Re:This reminds me of a dilbert cartoon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23103622)

Exactly! Where I work has a ton of proxies set up and you can't access anything outside the corporate network (read: internet) without going through these proxies. Webmail is blocked, most humor sites are blocked, and I'm willing to bet they watch internet usage.

What did I do?

Simple, setup an sshd server up at home with squid running (apt-get install sshd squid)
Then I just simply fire up putty, set it up to bounce through the work proxy, open a tunnel through that and then setup a new proxy in Firefox to point to the tunnel.

bingo, free surfing with no restrictions and no monitoring.

sadly, now they are dropping my tunnel every 10 minutes on the dot. Not sure what's going on there, but me thinks they are on to me! =)

I'll try VPN next.

*AC for obvious reasons*

Just Say No to Politicians (1)

stewbacca (1033764) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103426)

As much as I'd love to register as a Democrat, it's boneheads like Biden that keep me from doing so. When I read the DNC platform I get excited. When I hear Joe Biden, Harry Reid, Hillary Clinton, et. al. pontificate, I remain registered as a Republican (in the RHINO or Southpark sense only).

How clueless can you get.... (1)

splutty (43475) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103470)

My first thought when I read this was 'Whiskey Tango Foxtrot'. (Well. Not exactly, it was actually the terms that those letters stand for, but hey).

This is really sad, because I just know he's serious about this, and he really does think this 'saves the children'. And he's giving the exact proof why people with no knowledge about these sort of technical things, should not be allowed to even propose a law about it.

You're not going to let a truck driver design your house. You're not letting a CEO have root access to your core machines. You don't accept financial advice from a bum. You can't accept truth from a politician. Uhm. Well. You get my point.

Why the hell would we accept a senator to make laws about something he simply doesn't have the knowledge about? Why on earth do these people even think they can make sensible comments about this?

It's so intensely sad that in a wat it gets funny, if I didn't realize that they're dead serious, and we're going to be stuck with the bullshit.

Can't we forcibly 'retire' these sort of politicians from their position... Bleh.

Dear Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23103486)

As a Delaware resident I'd like to formally apologize to the series of tubes that is the internet. We Delawareans do not support the boneheaded flailings of our laissez-faire-bashing pompadour.

File names (0, Redundant)

torkus (1133985) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103524)

pretty easy to pick out the person engaged in either transmitting or downloading violent scenes of rape, molestation


And this one sentence proves the whole idea is ill-concieved and been given virtually no "real like" though. Never mind that porn sites spam p2p with name-spammed files ... never mind that staged 'rape' movies are rather easy to find ... never mind the zillions of "15year old pron" pictures that are 18+yo models from websites ... never mind that people can use code words that will completly stuff the filters.

Just follow the money... (4, Interesting)

i_want_you_to_throw_ (559379) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103544)

I am sure that Sen Biden's idea has nothing to do with the fact that he has taken $178,358 from the TV/Movies/Music [opensecrets.org] lobby in this last cycle. The ROI on paying off a politician is insane. Just look at Orrin Hatch and the DMCA.

Re:Just follow the money... (1)

DragonTHC (208439) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103594)

yep, Joe Biden, big fucking whore.

Seriously, no one is trading that sort of stuff on p2p.

This is very much a move by big media to demonize a technology.

it doesn't matter much since anyone that is trading that sort of stuff most definitely has encryption enabled rendering the whole billion dollar system entirely fucking useless.

The Cluetrain has left the building (1)

xbytor (215790) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103582)

Doesn't the Senator know that the logical response to this will be millions of files with names like 'loli-rape.avi' that contain wonderful Rick Astely videos*? Is Biden up for reelection yet again or is this his normal level of cluelessness.

Don't blame me. I'm writing in Bruce Schneier and Lawrence Lessig!

*Wait. What am I saying. This is already happening...

Billion dollars? (1)

lobiusmoop (305328) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103586)

Um, seeing as the USA is slipping (slipped?) into recession and has a 9 trillion dollar debt, maybe your government should be planning on spending tax dollars a bit more conservatively? (say on public housing for the recently evicted, food stamps etc). Just my 2c.

Congressmen will believe any bullshit (1)

SlappyBastard (961143) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103592)

And Joe Biden is one of the very worst. He's been a stooge for the credit business in his state for years. So, all we have to do now is send all of our file names as hashes, and pretty soon we can get back to fucking children, which is after all the lone purpose of teh internets.

Can we reverse the age requirements for Congress, so no one over the age of 45 is allowed to serve? Jesus Christ are old people increasingly useless in our culture.

this truly proves (1)

OrochimaruVoldemort (1248060) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103614)

that george orwell (1984) was right. it is their playbook, and now, they are following it to the fullest.

Let the election-year pose-fest begin! (1)

Captain Sarcastic (109765) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103618)

This is only the beginning, citizens. Every election year, someone proposes this kind of lame idea, hoping that they'll be seen "stalwart defenders of public decency taking a stand against the evils of the Internet" instead of "idiots proposing stupid solutions to minor nuisances in an attempt to garner votes."

Last year, it was then-presidential-contender Senator Brownback of Kansas who was re-proposing the "Truth in Ratings" act, [slashdot.org] (although I'm sure that it was in NO way related to his "more-family-values-oriented-than-thou" appeal.)

goatse subbed for disney (1)

torkus (1133985) | more than 6 years ago | (#23103626)

So who wants to join me in animating goatse into movies and then naming those files after every popular movie and tossing them on P2P? Let the idiots monitoring this system enjoy their work for once...

Fixed Title: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23103632)

US Government Will Assume All File Traders Are Criminals

Just looked like it needed fixing.
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