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How Duct Tape Saved Apollo 17's Moon Buggy

timothy posted more than 6 years ago | from the these-pictures-clearly-faked dept.

Moon 203

Ant points out a story spotted on Boing Boing in which NASA "shares a story that turns back the clock 36 years to reveal the "key roll of duct tape in the Apollo program." The quality of the photographs from the moon always grabs me, and the duct-taped fender here is no exception.

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Duct Tape (5, Insightful)

maz2331 (1104901) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159718)

It just proves the old adage that "If you can't fix it with duct tape, then it's broken."

Re:Duct Tape (4, Interesting)

Mordok-DestroyerOfWo (1000167) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159796)

Actually that's not entirely true. A few years ago we were working in the field in the Arctic. I stumbled down a hill and broke my arm. The satellite phone wasn't working at the time, so our solution was to make an elaborate splint made entirely out of duct tape. It took 3 days to hike back to civilization but my arm didn't even need to be reset by the doctor.

Re:Duct Tape (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23160758)

oh please, like anyone is believing that story.

Re:Duct Tape (1)

RobDollar (1137885) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159820)

Duck tape still works though, I always assume big operations use the branded stuff.

Re:Duct Tape (5, Funny)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159860)

Can we fix the broken CSS on the idle section with some duct tape?

Re:Duct Tape (1, Funny)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160192)

yes. place duct tape over spoys that dont display correctly. Or put the tape over your eyes and refesh the page. Now the CSS will display correctly or not but that if find just as long as you don't measure the results (by peaking)

Re:Duct Tape (1)

Bloodoflethe (1058166) | more than 6 years ago | (#23161292)

Schrodinger, is that you?

Re:Duct Tape (1)

that IT girl (864406) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159934)

And thus the South rises again ;)

Re:Duct Tape (4, Funny)

Schwartzboy (653985) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159968)

Actually, I thought that it went "If you can't duck it..." and then ends with a two-word suggestion that I'm very very glad they didn't have to do to the moon buggy. I would think that it'd be physically impossible to do and not at all fun unless the buggy was, in fact, really cute.

Re:Duct Tape (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23160726)

ventilation conduit != waterfowl

Learn to say it right.

Re:Duct Tape (1)

peragrin (659227) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160028)

Actually i had a weak air conditioner duct joint that I used duct tape to help hold together and it fell apart constantly.

Duct tape is perfect for everything but Ducts.

Re:Duct Tape (1)

Amouth (879122) | more than 6 years ago | (#23161238)

atual Duct Tape.. not the Duck Tape people think of as the gray tape.. is extreamly good on Duct's..

like the force (3, Funny)

moderatorrater (1095745) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160070)

light side, dark side, holds the universe together, blah blah blah. Unfortunately, George Lucas ruined this joke, since duct tape isn't made my symbiotic microorganisms living inside everything.

Re:like the force (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160246)

Boy! This slashdot page is really broken.
[ABCDEFGHHJKLMNO]
^ That is the width of the comment entry field.

Anyways, back off topic. I shuddered when I heard midichlorians. Then, in order to bring sanity back to the Star Wars universe, I decided that these midichlorians didn't *Generate* the force, they merely found beings who were strong with the force to be good habitats. So your midichlorian count mirrored your capabilities for using the force, but did not contribute towards it.

Re:like the force (2, Funny)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160370)

I'm sorry to crush your dreams, but the force is purely a nepotistic force. Unless your dad was a Dark Lord of the Sith, the force will not be strong with you. The only thing you will be able to foresee is a life serving fries at McDonalds to the one handed children of Sith Masters.

Actually, the midichlorians thing really got me too :( I like your explanation. Darn parasitic midichlorians..

Re:like the force (1)

drsmithy (35869) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160786)

Anyways, back off topic. I shuddered when I heard midichlorians. Then, in order to bring sanity back to the Star Wars universe, I decided that these midichlorians didn't *Generate* the force, they merely found beings who were strong with the force to be good habitats. So your midichlorian count mirrored your capabilities for using the force, but did not contribute towards it.

I really don't get the angst against midichlorians. Why get so uptight about an attempt to come up with an actual explanation of the force that wasn't akin to medieval religion ?

Re:like the force (1)

hvm2hvm (1208954) | more than 6 years ago | (#23161324)

because people like aspiring to more or less godlike powers and the fact that the jedi and sith needed any kind of help to do all that 'magic', that they weren't gods by themselves pisses off everyone.
i would personally choose having weak telekinetic powers on my own rather than some machine reading my mind and moving objects as i please :D

Re:Duct Tape (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23160268)

"If you can't fix it with duct tape, then it's broken."
You forget about WD40.

If it moves and is not supposed to, use Duct Tape.
If it doesn't move and is supposed to, use WD40.

If both of those fail, then I guess you can savely assume it's broken.

Duct Tape (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23160298)

What's white on one side, grey on the other, and holds the world together?

Re:Duct Tape (2, Funny)

sayfawa (1099071) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160506)

The technical expression I prefer is "If it's not duct, it's fucked"

Re:Duct Tape (4, Interesting)

sm62704 (957197) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160562)

Works on earth buggies, too. I can't count the number of times a coolant hose or a heater hose (coolant goes through the heater hose?) has gotten a hole and been patched with duct tape "to get to the auto parts store", and was still on the unreplaced hose when I sold or traded the car.

It may be urban legend, but I heard the military calls it "hundred mile per hour tape" because once in some godforsaken jungle somewhere a helicopter broke a rotor (gunshot or something) and the mechanic duct taped it together, telling the pilot to "keep it under a hundred miles an hour".

They used to seal ducts with the stuff.

Has anyone ever taped ducks together with it?

Re:Duct Tape (1)

Missing_dc (1074809) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160972)

the "hundred mile an hour tape" is actually stronger and much stickier than commercial duct tape. and dark green. but I heard it was called 200 mile an hour tape. as in don't fly your plane faster than that.

Re:Duct Tape (4, Interesting)

smellsofbikes (890263) | more than 6 years ago | (#23161242)

I have taped a duck with duct tape. It was a pet duck that had been attacked by a dog and had a huge oozing wound on its back. We were trying to get bandages on it so it wouldn't get (as much) dirt and debris in the wound while it was healing, and gauze and medical tape wasn't enough. We used a combination of duct tape and vet wrap and basically made a sort of suit for the duck that wrapped around its chest and under its wings, to hold the bandages in place. It worked.

Your coolant system patches must've used different duct tape than mine: the hot water melted the adhesive and it was leaking like a sieve in a dozen km. I managed to get home, barely.

Re:Duct Tape (1)

AnomaliesAndrew (908394) | more than 6 years ago | (#23161304)

Haha... that's a great story.

I've read that the one thing duct tape sucks for is taping ducts. It makes a great fender though.

Now I'm off to find some ducks...

Duct Tape, Obligatory ref ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23160966)

"Well, Duct Tape is an Astronauts best friend... old Harold decided to run out of the lander without his pants on. That's somethin' he probably won't try again soon."

ObRedGreen Ref (5, Insightful)

amccaf1 (813772) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159756)

Remember, if the aliens don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

Re:ObRedGreen Ref (1)

bratwiz (635601) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160166)


Or tasty.

The voids... (4, Funny)

dauthur (828910) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159784)

You can't hear duct tape rip in the vacuum of space. That is a sad fact.

Re:The voids... (1)

fear025 (763732) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159910)

As long as you were the one doing the ripping, you should still hear the sound transmitted through your gloves. It might be hard to hear, though, depending on the ambient noise generated by your suit.

Re:The voids... (1)

AugustZephyr (989775) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160896)

[fart] excuse me.

Re:The voids... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23160430)

Neither can you. So, there.

Yep (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23159800)

This is just more proof of the shoddy fakery that NASA used when creating the moon landing hoax.

Duct tape great for everything BUT ducts. (1)

iamsamed (1276082) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159826)

Duct Tape [wikipedia.org] developed during WWII.

Helped the Apollo 13 guys too.

BUT, what's better for actually using on ducts is foil tape. Duct tape sucks for ducts and will fall off eventually. I'm trying to find why it's named "duct tape" to begin with when it appears to be invented for other things....

Looking....

Re:Duct tape great for everything BUT ducts. (5, Informative)

jafiwam (310805) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159868)

Sealing ammo cans with cloth tape. Though the origin of the name is a controversy, the term is originally "Duck Tape" because water is repelled by the outside surface, thus making it good for ammo cans. You can get the can wet, pull it out of the wet, and since the water rolled off, open the can right away without getting much water in the can. Or, so the story goes.

So, it's really "duck" tape. (1)

iamsamed (1276082) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159936)

Sealing ammo cans with cloth tape. Though the origin of the name is a controversy, the term is originally "Duck Tape" because water is repelled by the outside surface, thus making it good for ammo cans. You can get the can wet, pull it out of the wet, and since the water rolled off, open the can right away without getting much water in the can. Or, so the story goes.
This guy says the same thing...assuming it's not your site :-) [worldwidewords.org]

And, it looks like it really should be called "duck" tape then.

Wet Ammo? (2)

maz2331 (1104901) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160392)

That's cool, but does it really matter if rifle ammo gets wet? Cartriges are pretty well sealed, and you can store a round of ammo under water for months, pull it out and fire it immediately.

Maybe for other stuff like electronics or such. But ammo?

Re:Wet Ammo? (1)

pi_rules (123171) | more than 6 years ago | (#23161002)

You might be able to get away with dunking Swiss GP11* under water for months, but I doubt you could pull that off with anything that NATO's using.

*: They use wax to create a seal between the bullet and case mouth.

Re:Wet Ammo? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23161222)

While its true most ammo is water resistant, if your casings get corroded, they will jam your gun.

Re:Duct tape great for everything BUT ducts. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23160652)

Or, more likely IMHO, because the cloth it's made of is called duck cloth.
http://www.sizes.com/materls/duck.htm/ [sizes.com]

Re:Duct tape great for everything BUT ducts. (2, Informative)

boyfaceddog (788041) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160676)

I thought it was orginally called "Duck Tape" becasue the man who invented it used it to repair his boats. Back in those days it was made of duck cloth or "cotton duck", much sturdier than today's tape, and tar was used as the "glue" and waterproofer. When the modern manufactuer took over in world war two the tar was replaced with (then) moden glue and the waterproofing was a spray-on synthetic rubber, much like the macintosh raincoat. However the tape was used, as you said, for waterproofing ammo cans. It was soon used for much more.

Yes, I call BS on you, too.

DUCK tape (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23160292)

It was originally called "duck" tape because the way it repels water poured on it is similar to a duck's back.

Key Roll? (3, Funny)

tit0.c (245434) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159862)

Key Roll of Duct Tape or Key Role?
I guess both are valid...

Re:Key Roll? (3, Funny)

Major Blud (789630) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160538)

Depending on who you ask, I think it's "GNU/Tape".

photos (5, Informative)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159890)

The quality of the photographs from the moon always grabs me, and the duct-taped fender here is no exception.

Medium-format sized negatives. Shitloads of light (large depth of field and high shutter speeds.) No atmosphere to bend light between subject and camera.

Also, you've got really hard shadows because the light isn't diffused at all by an atmosphere.

Cameras (3, Informative)

maz2331 (1104901) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160002)

Didn't NASA have a preference back then for Hasselblad medium-format cameras with really good Zeiss lenses?

Pro-level gear with big film can give some really incredibly detailed photos.

Re:Cameras (4, Informative)

smooth wombat (796938) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160614)

Didn't NASA have a preference back then for Hasselblad medium-format cameras with really good Zeiss lenses?


Yup. Swedish engineered camera with German lenses. Pretty much the best of both worlds. For your information [nasa.gov] .

Re:Cameras (1)

iamlucky13 (795185) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160928)

The interesting thing is, lately NASA has been primarily using [nasa.gov] relatively common digital SLR cameras. I'm not sure what modifications, if any, they've made. They do have thermal protection covers for EVA's, which are left off for photography from inside the station or shuttle.

Most of the photos seem to be taken with Kodak DSC760's, a 6 MP camera dating back to 2001 that is limited to ISO400. Lately they've also started to use the newer 12 MP Nikon D2Xs.

Granted, these are nicer than most ordinary Joe's own, but they are nothing extraordinary. However, just look at the detail they get during shuttle dockings at the ISS. [nasa.gov]

Re:Cameras (1)

dpilot (134227) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160942)

When you're talking over $1000/lb shipping to the moon, the cost difference between cheap and the very best becomes minor. Then when you add in the penalty for failure, you clearly want only the very best.

Re:photos (1)

kris.montpetit (1265946) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160018)

The quality of the photographs from the moon always grabs me, and the duct-taped fender here is no exception.

Medium-format sized negatives. Shitloads of light (large depth of field and high shutter speeds.) No atmosphere to bend light between subject and camera.

Also, you've got really hard shadows because the light isn't diffused at all by an atmosphere.


My thoughts exactly. I was surprised, however, that some of the brutal more harmful radiation out there (which is filtered out by our atmospher and would be blinding) didn't fry the negatives-I guess this helps explain the slightly over exposed/hard light look of the photos

Re:photos (2, Interesting)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160098)

Right. They're able to use very slow film - which helps with fogging from other sources. I believe they also stored the equipment and film in foil-lined cases for this very reason.

Re:photos (2, Funny)

noidentity (188756) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160724)

It's especially impressive considering the pictures were taken on Earth. *ducks*

Re:photos (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23160746)

With all the lights in a sound stage, is it any wonder the photos turned out so well?

Not Without My Duct Tape (1)

FurtiveGlancer (1274746) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159894)

You can tell them little green fellas I'm not gettin' on that thing with out my duct tape. I might need to terraform a planet, er somethin'

KEY roll of duct tape? (4, Insightful)

corsec67 (627446) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159906)

I would say that the roll of tape [wikipedia.org] used on the Apollo 13 [wikipedia.org] was much more important.

It is interesting to think about dust in a vacuum, where if it is kicked up with a large forward velocity, it will fall back down on you or even ahead of you, whereas on Earth it would get pushed behind you by friction...

US Government Olive Drab Duct Tape (3, Funny)

MichaelCrawford (610140) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159960)

My father [geometricvisions.com] was a civil service engineer at Mare Island Naval Shipyard, where he worked on the electrical systems of submarines.

One day he found a roll of duct tape lying around somewhere on a sub that was in for repair. It didn't appear as if anyone was using it.

However, one was not permitted to just remove stuff left lying around - someone might still be needing it.

So dad went through the proper channels, which involved filing a form in which he requested the removal of the duct tape. This had to be signed by his manager. I don't remember clearly, but maybe it had to be signed by his manager's manager.

Once the paperwork was all squared away, someone was sent in to the sub to remove the roll of duct tape - only to find that it wasn't there anymore!

Your tax dollars at work!

Re:US Government Olive Drab Duct Tape (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23160322)

My father [geometricvisions.com] was a civil service engineer at Mare Island Naval Shipyard, where he worked on the electrical systems of submarines.

One day he found a roll of duct tape lying around somewhere on a sub that was in for repair. It didn't appear as if anyone was using it.

However, one was not permitted to just remove stuff left lying around - someone might still be needing it.


That's not as dumb as it sounds. The duct tape may have been important for something non-obvious, and taking it off the sub might have caused real problems.

They probably wouldn't be able to surface near the shore of wherever-they-were-spying and go to the hardware store for more.

If you think it's expensive checking on the duct tape, you should see what it costs to not have it when you need it.

Re:US Government Olive Drab Duct Tape (0, Troll)

susano_otter (123650) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160992)

To the extent that this story might be true, your dad is an asshole who enjoys wasting my tax dollars and fucking around with irrelevant red tape than actually doing useful work.

Obviously whoever was using the duct tape, being finished with it, took care of it when they were done with their work.

How much of my tax dollars did your dad convert into useful work for my benefit while some other guy was cleaning up after himself?

the key roll of duct tape (1, Redundant)

wiredog (43288) | more than 6 years ago | (#23159972)

Roll or role?

Re:the key roll of duct tape (1)

Rocketeer (177458) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160372)

I wrote the author of the article and asked the same question. I'd be embarrassed to have a typo on NASA's website... but perhaps he was trying to be clever.

To mess with the conspiracy theorists... (1)

iamsamed (1276082) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160004)

I really want to go to those conspiracy sites pointing to this picture and say, "See! The Apollo Moon Landings WERE faked! Duck tape ONLY works when there's Oxygen!"

Oh, pleeeeeeaaaase ?!?! Let me!

Re:To mess with the conspiracy theorists... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23160146)

Or say something like the adhesive on the tape couldn't possibly stand up to the radiation of the sun.

Re:To mess with the conspiracy theorists... (1)

iamsamed (1276082) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160290)

Or say something like the adhesive on the tape couldn't possibly stand up to the radiation of the sun.

Oh, sweet!

I'm getting some great material here. I may have to write a book and donate the proceeds to the EFF.

Gorilla Glue Duct Tape (1)

Maximum Prophet (716608) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160034)

If you've never used the new Gorilla Glue Duct Tape, go out to Lowes or Home Depot right now and get yourself a roll.

It's more expensive, about $10 a roll, but it really is the best tape out there. I've used it seal stuff outdoors and a year later, it's still holding. If NASA doesn't take a few rolls of this stuff to the moon, they're not paying attention.

Re:Gorilla Glue Duct Tape (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23160436)

If NASA doesn't take a few rolls of this stuff to the moon, they're not paying attention.

      Umm sorry but you're the one who isn't paying attention if you think NASA will be able to afford to go to the moon at any time in the next 30 years or so...

I duct taped a friend to a wall (1)

MichaelCrawford (610140) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160068)

In the dorms at Porter College at UC Santa Cruz.

I had him stand on a chair, then applied tape liberally. When I was all done, I removed the chair.

He stayed up there for five minutes, but eventually had to come down as it was getting very uncomfortable.

Another friend who was an art major made a tasteful arrangement of the leftover tape, stuck back on the wall where he had been. He then typed up a little sign that commemorated the event, and said that I was a conceptual artist who is often compared to Cristo.

Re:I duct taped a friend to a wall (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23160572)

We did that to my roommate my freshman year, too -- but it was because we didn't like him. The RAs helped.

Played a bigger role in Apollo 13 (2, Informative)

kraemate (1065878) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160080)

Duct tape saved the day during Apollo 13 too, when they were having CO2 problems. Those guys jury-rigged the Lithium Hydroxide canister of the command-module (which were square), into the LEM(which had round canisters).
Saved the day. Without it, the astronauts would have died of CO2 poisoning. Apparently, the design was so good, it became a standard emergency procedure in future missions.

Re:Played a bigger role in Apollo 13 (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160440)

Why not just make all lithium hydroxide canisters the same shape? Bah.. inventing zero-g pens when you can use a pencil and all.. always having to make everything so complicated!

Don't let facts get in the way (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23160720)


Bah.. inventing zero-g pens when you can use a pencil and all.. always having to make everything so complicated!


That is actually a myth [snopes.com]

The "space pen" was developed entirely by a private company in hopes that they could make millions selling it to suckers who would think it was cool.

Re:Don't let facts get in the way (1)

Your Pal Dave (33229) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160872)

The "space pen" was developed entirely by a private company in hopes that they could make millions selling it to suckers who would think it was cool.
You've never actually used a space pen, have you? You'll get my bullet pen [fisherpen.com] when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.

Re:Don't let facts get in the way (1)

ari_j (90255) | more than 6 years ago | (#23161014)

I had a Fisher Space Pen and loved it, until it turned out to be falsely advertised. It claims to write at any temperature, but it would not write at all when it was a scant -20F (-28C) out. I was very disappointed.

Re:Played a bigger role in Apollo 13 (1)

RockModeNick (617483) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160914)

I thought pencils could generate graphite dust, and splinters of broken graphite when points broke, and creating shavings which have to be stored when sharpened. Of course, I think the Russian space program found these troubles acceptable.

Re:Played a bigger role in Apollo 13 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23161036)

http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/spacepen.asp [snopes.com]
Please stop perpetuating rumors.

Filthy astronauts. (5, Funny)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160092)

They also used duct tape to fix the stereo, so they could keep driving their moon buggies through our neighborhoods at all hours of the night playing that theme from "2001" real loud.

Back when we really had a Pioneer program (3, Interesting)

arakon (97351) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160134)

I think we should go back a bit to that kind of space exploration. Boot-strap, Cowboy style. There are so many regs and safety issues with today's space program that with all the bureaucracy it's a wonder we get anything off the ground at all. Lets just start with some quantity, launch anything with a higher than 50% survival rate.

How many people do you know that would jump on an opportunity for a manned mission to mars? Just to be the first to do it. Even if you don't make it, you'd still provide useful information and go down in history as a great pioneer. Hell there is a certain religion or two down here that have people clamoring all over their selves to die for some glorious amorphous cause. Put them to work. Launch those space monkeys up there so they can be closer to their [Deity].

Re:Back when we really had a Pioneer program (2, Interesting)

joggle (594025) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160418)

You know that's much more the old Russian style, not the US style. We were never so gung-ho that we would find a 50% survival rate acceptable. The US was very meticulous and careful during the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs. The only fatalities that resulted from the program were the Apollo 1 astronauts. After that, there was a huge delay as they did a thorough investigation into the cause of the accident and made many changes to make it safer (not using pure oxygen in the capsule, better wiring, made it easier to open capsule door, etc.). If another accident had occurred soon after it was quite possible that the entire Apollo program would have been canceled.


The Russian program, in contrast, had many accidents and were willing to launch men on a mission to the moon with almost no hope of them returning. They never got that far though (thank God) since we took the wind out of their sails by getting there first--not to mention their continuing difficulties of keeping their rocket from malfunctioning.

Three things you need to fix anything (4, Funny)

cwills (200262) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160180)

The three things you need to fix anything in the universe.
  1. Duct Tape
  2. WD-40
  3. A Hammer

  • If it moves and it shouldn't - use Duct Tape
  • If it doesn't move and it should, use WD-40
  • If neither of those work, use the hammer

Re:Three things you need to fix anything (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160456)

If the hammer doesn't work, you may need to use Chuck Norris.

Re:Three things you need to fix anything (1)

ledow (319597) | more than 6 years ago | (#23161216)

You've forgotten at least two of the universal solutions:

Superglue
Blu-Tak

Re:Three things you need to fix anything (1)

Udo Schmitz (738216) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160658)

I'd like to apply the third option to the idle.slashdot.org-Layout, please.

Re:Three things you need to fix anything (3, Funny)

Thelasko (1196535) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160744)

If the hammer doesn't work, get a bigger hammer.

Always be worried when you see someone that works with computers carrying a 30 pound sledge hammer with a big smile on his/her face.

Re:Three things you need to fix anything (1)

AugustZephyr (989775) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160982)

I only use one rule:
If it doesn't fit, force It. If it breaks, it needed to be replaced anyway.
Works for just about* everything

*NOTE: do NOT use this rule in the bedroom

Re:Three things you need to fix anything (1)

LittleGuy (267282) | more than 6 years ago | (#23161276)

The three things you need to fix anything in the universe.
Duct Tape
WD-40
A Hammer


Foreplay?

It also... (1)

boris111 (837756) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160244)

removes warts. Or so I hear.

If at first you don't succeed... (1, Offtopic)

SCHecklerX (229973) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160272)

...use more duct tape!

-- Red Green

Slow news day? (0, Offtopic)

DerekLyons (302214) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160276)

Slow news day on BoingBoing and/or Slashdot? This is a pretty well known piece of history.

Ammo for the conspiracy theorists? (2, Interesting)

DanQuixote (945427) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160324)

Why are there no tracks before or after that tire?

Was the photo just after assembly, but before movement?

There's an astronaut sitting in it, how could he possibly wait for a photo shoot before hitting the gas?

I would expect more footprints around the thing if it were just after assembly.

Re:Ammo for the conspiracy theorists? (1)

hcdejong (561314) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160530)

You'll notice that one of the footprints is half filled in with dust. Every step would move the dust around, that's probably what happened to the tire tracks as well.

Re:Ammo for the conspiracy theorists? (3, Informative)

JustinOpinion (1246824) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160662)

Good observation.

This is what I see in the photo [nasa.gov] : if you look at the front right wheel, you'll see an S-shaped trench leading away from it, going off-camera in the bottom-right of the image. You'll also notice that at the bottom-right of the image a footprint appears which seems to have significantly altered the trench. Actually it looks like it filled it in.

The moondust is very light and prone to redistribution (that's the whole point of TFA, in fact), so perhaps just stepping near a tire-track is enough to fill in the trench (after the dust settles)? If so, then when you look at the back-right wheel, you'll see that there are footprints there which may have disturbed the ground and filled in the trench from the wheel (especially since he would have had to walk all over the place near that wheel while performing the repair). Actually there are some faint indications of where a track may have once been.

I'm certainly no expert in these kinds of things, but it seems to me that working near the vehicle would quickly disturb any tracks, because of how light the rocks and dust are on the moon.

Re:Ammo for the conspiracy theorists? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23160950)

Weird isn't it? I wondered if anybody else noticed.

Re:Ammo for the conspiracy theorists? (1)

skidisk (994551) | more than 6 years ago | (#23161044)

Cernan accidentally tore the fender off right after they unloaded the rover from the lunar module. They hadn't driven anywhere yet.

It's like the Force (1, Funny)

Deadstick (535032) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160328)

...it has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

rj

You're right, I looked it up (2, Funny)

sm62704 (957197) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160760)

Duct tape [uncyclopedia.org]

"Silence is golden, duct tape is silver coincidence, I think NOT!" ~ Oscar Wilde

Duct Tape has amazing adhesive propertiesDuct Tape is the preferred material for Tuxedo construction. It is also a mystical force with a light side and a dark side. It is said to bind the Universe together, and this, combined with the moral duality of the substance, has made it a coveted object of power and worship among several religions, including the Druids(otherwise known as Jedi.) In fact, the bible states that on the third day, God invented Duct Tape.

The Duc(k)t Tape Conspiracy
Duct tape is, obviously, made of ducks. Only an idiot would say it's not. However, nobody is completely sure just how the factoris make it. Some say that after the cute little duckies hatch they are ground into powder, which is mixed with water and forms a glue. Others say they don't know. Whatever the method, duct tape is made of ducks.

There are probably full audio for this on the LSJ (3, Informative)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160410)

The Lunar Surface Journal over here: (more specifically on the Apollo 17 page of course)
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/frame.html [nasa.gov]

Craploads of imagery from all surface missions, full transcripts, and audio. :)

Duct tape saved my weekend (2, Interesting)

Ang31us (1132361) | more than 6 years ago | (#23160682)

Well, sort of...My housekeeper was cleaning and noticed (or perhaps caused) a hole about the size of a silver dollar in the drain pipe underneath my kitchen sink. The area around the hole was a corroded and basically everything that went down the drain ended up going out of the hole. I live in an apartment building where the super takes forever to fix things, so I had to come up with a stop-gap solution. First, I just put a bucket under it when I was just using water, but that was going to start to get really gross when I wanted to wash that night's frying pans, so I did not wash them that evening.

The next morning, it hit me, I could wrap the pipe with duct tape to seal the hole and it worked! I cleaned my dishes, pots, pans and made pasta on Saturday; it even held up when I poured the boiling water down the drain.

Not quite a NASA moon mission, but I did gain a new appreciation for duct tape.

Rumor on Usenet has it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23161058)

...that NASA calls it rocket tape [google.com] .

It also played a huge role in Apollo 13. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23161104)

The astronauts had to build an air-scrubber canister adapter (the LM used round canisters, while the CSM used square canisters) so that CO2 would not build to toxic levels.

It was improvised from common materials found in the spacecraft, all held together by duct tape.

Without duct tape, the Apollo 13 astronauts probably would not have survived.

been done before by NASA? (2, Informative)

v1 (525388) | more than 6 years ago | (#23161124)

I seem to recall the "Huston, we have a PROBLEM" mission (Appolo 13?) that they used duct tape to make the other CO2 filters mechanically compatible when they had to spend more time in orbit than they could manage just on the service module's filters. (one set was round and the other set was square)

Gaffa's better. (2, Informative)

moosesocks (264553) | more than 6 years ago | (#23161246)

Gaffer tape is vastly superior to duct tape.

Easier to tear, less residue, matte surface.

Need I go on?

Slightly off topic... (2, Informative)

owlnation (858981) | more than 6 years ago | (#23161252)

Try searching for "Moon buggy" in Wikipedia.

And good luck with that. You'll turn up nothing but "articles" linked to commercial products. You have to use "Lunar Rover". (And it's an article ripped form a single source (albeit NASA))

I wonder if someone could fix Wikipedia's search engine with duct tape? Though I suspect that it's far beyond that kind of repair.
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