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First Looks at Microsoft's New "Live Mesh" Platform

CmdrTaco posted more than 6 years ago | from the live-mesh-all-nude dept.

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technirvana writes "Microsoft's Live Mesh service launched today as an invite-only 'technology preview.' It is Microsoft's attempt to tie all of our data together. Live Mesh synchronizes data across multiple devices (currently just Windows computers, but theoretically it will extend to mobile and other devices in the future) as well as to a web desktop that exists in the cloud. It can sync data across devices used by a single users, as well as create shared spaces for multiple users." And since it's run by Microsoft, you know you can trust it.

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like plays for sure? (4, Insightful)

bagboy (630125) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171812)

"you know you can trust it" Yeah, I'm gonna trust it in about the same fashion.

Re:like plays for sure? (3, Interesting)

totmacher (1148817) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172260)

pfft "technology preview"?

Try PowerFolder. It's a mature alternative:
* The software works since 2003
* It gets actively developed
* It's open source - a free Basic client is available
* There is a commercial Pro client with advanced security and connectivity features and 5 GB Online backup space

http://www.powerfolder.com/ [powerfolder.com]

Best regards,
Christian

Re:like plays for sure? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172752)

I was wondering if am I the only one that can't tell if that was meant sarcastically...

Re:like plays for sure? (2, Funny)

calebt3 (1098475) | more than 6 years ago | (#23173026)

It was. [slashdot.org]

Re:like plays for sure? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172998)

Yup, technology previews are awesome. Remember the good ol' days when they came out with the *exciting* longhorn previews? Compared to the current Vista platform, they were offering magic.

EULA Love. (2, Interesting)

willeyhill (1277478) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171818)

Trust a company that demands the right to delete any file they suspect of violating copyright? No thanks, not on any machine much less as a sync service to ruin other OS.

so it's like... ".mac"? (4, Insightful)

phooka.de (302970) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171828)

So they "invented" something like .mac by Apple, right? The latter is of course being overpriced and lacking compelling reasons to subscribe, but still, you can access your Mac from anywhere, it offers email, storage etc.

So, anything new here?

Re:so it's like... ".mac"? (5, Funny)

phpmysqldev (1224624) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171896)

Just what I was looking for!
A way to organize all of the unethically gathered data Microsoft has collected on me!

Thank God! I thought they might actually have to look in two databases to realize I don't like Vista, but I do like pizza and bunnies...I mean first person shooters...yeah...FPS...def not bunnies

Re:so it's like... ".mac"? (5, Funny)

sm62704 (957197) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171932)

So, anything new here?

Apple invented it but Microsoft INNOVATED it!

Re:so it's like... ".mac"? (4, Insightful)

nvivo (739176) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172020)

So, anything new here?
Yes. Now you can share all your viruses and spyware with your friends and family on your online desktop.

Actually, you could do it already. Microsoft is just making it easier.

Re:so it's like... ".mac"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23173192)

And you get to share EVERYTHING with Homeland Security too :-)

Re:so it's like... ".mac"? (0, Redundant)

cbart387 (1192883) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172172)

So they "invented" something like .mac by Apple, right?
There's nothing new under the sun. I'd write more but that pretty much sums it up.

Interface by KDE (3, Interesting)

alcmaeon (684971) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172384)

Plus, from the look of the website, they stole all the icons from KDE.

Re:Interface by KDE (1)

abigor (540274) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172586)

Haha, you are correct - I had to see this for myself, and they sure do look familiar. That is absolutely hilarious if true.

Re:Interface by KDE (4, Funny)

xerxesVII (707232) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172866)

This part of their effort to embrace OSS.

Re:Interface by KDE (4, Funny)

freemywrld (821105) | more than 6 years ago | (#23173542)

If by "embrace" you mean "grab by the throat and squeeeeeeeze..."

Looks interesting (2, Interesting)

Zeinfeld (263942) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171830)

Its an interesting idea, the limitations of synctoy are quite apparent. There is no reason why backup should be a separate operation these days it should all be automatic. Be nicer when they support mac as well.

Re:Looks interesting (3, Funny)

just_another_sean (919159) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172094)

Be nicer when they support mac as well.
Maybe they can get ISO to turn it into a standard so we can get an open source implementation as well. I hear MS has a nice, tight relationship with ISO so it's possible. :-)

Re:Looks interesting (1)

voice_of_all_reason (926702) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172434)

Maybe I don't want all my desktop shit backed up to the psp or ipod. Then I leave it on the subway and can spend the next 20 years innovating against identify theft. No thanks.

Open Source equivilent (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23171836)

Actually, this kind of thing has been very useful for interoperating my devices at home / work / travel. It's called VPN. Brief article on VPN. [notlong.com] And IIRC, it's as old as the hills anyway. Another innovation from MS!

malicious link in parent post (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#23173196)

dont click.

Enterprise Computing agrees! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23171838)

And since it's run by Microsoft, you know you can trust it.


And, looking at the operating system installed base, as well as the most popular web browser, as well as the most popular Office suite... everyone seems to be in agreement!

Re:Enterprise Computing agrees! (2, Informative)

mweather (1089505) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171928)

And I'm sure this service will be popular for the exact same reason those products are: abuse of Monopoly.

Now you're in for it! (2, Funny)

Chas (5144) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172274)

Just for that snide remark, you get to provide Ballmer with some chairs...

Live BAIT is more like it (nt) (1)

Jerry (6400) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171846)

nt

Sounds vaguely like some of what .Mac does... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23171854)

...w/r/t the syncing of data across multiple machines.

Being able to keep my contacts, calendar, bookmarks, etc synced effortlessly on my multiple Macs has been worth $99/year to me.

Yeah, that's great. (1)

khasim (1285) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171858)

In one proof-of-concept demo, a photo that was taken via a cell phone camera, was automatically synced to a Mesh that pushed the pictures out to a Facebook photo album.

It was certainly impressive to see data -- in this case a cell phone camera picture -- almost instantly synced across multiple devices and saved to a web service immediately after it was created.
Prepare yourself for the flood of home-made porn (BAD home-made porn) that is "synced across multiple devices".

And for the first people fired for "uploading" their porn collection to their workstations at their jobs.

Re:Yeah, that's great. (3, Funny)

just_another_sean (919159) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172120)

Prepare yourself for the flood of home-made porn (BAD home-made porn) that is "synced across multiple devices".

And for the first people fired for "uploading" their porn collection to their workstations at their jobs.
Prepared. Can't wait!

Antitrust? (3, Funny)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171860)

Am I the only one who thinks of the movie Antitrust [imdb.com] when I hear this? I wonder if Microsoft bumped off a few OSS developers to get the code for Synap-- err... I mean... Live Mesh? And now that I think about it, is my wife really my wife or actually a Microsoft spy? Hmm.... /insert paranoia and tinfoil hats

Re:Antitrust? (2, Funny)

styryx (952942) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172102)

One of the best Hollywood 'puter movies ever:

"Check it out, I programmed it in code!"

Re:Antitrust? (1)

rmadmin (532701) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172126)

HA! I tip my hat to you sir. :)

Re:Antitrust? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172162)

Rachel leigh cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook!

To paraphrase (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23171866)

If it's M$, it's crap!

Um, what? (-1, Offtopic)

sm62704 (957197) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171878)

desktop that exists in the cloud

First teh intarwebs was pipes. "I needs me some bigger pipes! Get me some T3 pipes in here!"

Then it was a series of tubes. Kind of like pipes but made of plastic and more flexible. "Get rid of that T3, Bob, we's gettin' TUBES! Call the cable tube ocmpany!"

Then it was a cloud, presumably after it went <a href=http://www.DamnItSomebodyFuckedUpUncyclopedia">up in smoke</a>.

OK, what do we get after clouds? Moonbeams?

-mcgrew

Re:Um, what? (1)

businessnerd (1009815) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172142)

OK, what do we get after clouds? Moonbeams?
Close. According to Verizon, it's light beams.

Live Mess! (TM) (1)

FurtiveGlancer (1274746) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171882)

Can't believe I got there first with the common pejorative. If their music sync skill is any indication....

Intergrated service (1)

Narpak (961733) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171892)

Sounds like a great idea. Now when Windows inevitably crashes it will lock down ALL your data; not just one device. Not to mention the inherent security quality so common in Microsoft products.

Re:Intergrated service (3, Interesting)

zappepcs (820751) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172014)

This is probably the most compelling reason to avoid it until after SP3 or equivalent. With Vista soaring to the top of the OS charts, IE and Office losing ground to competitors... well, things don't look so good for MS. Add the Yahoo! games, impending class action Vista Ready lawsuits, all they need now is one disgruntled employee to blow the whistle on nefarious dealings with the NSA regarding your web surfing habits and we can finally begin to smell the rot on the corpse that is MS.

IANAL nor a veteran of synch software coding but I'm willing to bet that MS will NOT support Mac or Linux with this product. I also do not beleive that they will support end users who lose their data. In fact, I'm willing to bet that there is less support from MS than F/OSS for lost data, so the price comparison really hurts the product. Sure, it will get used by default in places where they are too entrenched to move away from MS, or think they are.

The people that they need to sell this to first have to be taught WHY they need it. I don't see a very big splash being made with this product.... that is unless Sony gets involved, in which case the splash will be followed by a flush....

Re:Intergrated service (2, Funny)

FooAtWFU (699187) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172406)

Add the Yahoo! games, impending class action Vista Ready lawsuits, all they need now is one disgruntled employee to blow the whistle on nefarious dealings with the NSA regarding your web surfing habits and we can finally begin to smell the rot on the corpse that is MS.
Whoa, hold up. I knew Yahoo! Games was pretty awful, but it's hardly Windows-specific. Last I checked you could run them in Firefox on Linux too, if you really want to. So it's not exactly fair to call out Windows on this "flaw".

I swear, the anti-Microsoft Slashdot groupthink gets worse by the day.

Re:Intergrated service (1, Informative)

zappepcs (820751) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172696)

tap tap tap... hello McFly!

When MS threatened a unfriendly buyout of Yahoo! is what I'm referring to as Yahoo! Games.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=googleabout&btnG=Search+our+site&q=yahoo%20buyout%20microsoft [google.com]

You pick the source you want to read about the story. Perhaps you might stop to think that not all the bad or flippant comments about MS are posted by people simply out to bash MS. Some of them are deserved and well earned comments.

Re:Intergrated service (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23173462)

We can finally begin to smell the rot on the corpse that is MS.
But, it's still moving ...

OH SHIT!!!

Grab Your Bike and Ride! [amazon.com]

Microsoft's naming policies... (2, Interesting)

owlnation (858981) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171894)

MS needs to fire the marketingdroid they have working out the names of things.

From the people who brought you "squirt" as a verb, now you have "mesh". A word that most people immediately associate with the word "trap".

I suspect the marketingdroid may be a saboteur.

Re:Microsoft's naming policies... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172082)

What kind of a geek are you?

Squirt is a verb, women squirt ... never mind you have never seen the moist "squirting" spot :)

Re:Microsoft's naming policies... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172140)

I suspect the marketingdroid may be a saboteur.

Nah, he's just a former ISO employee.

Re:Microsoft's naming policies... (4, Funny)

Thanshin (1188877) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172240)

The entire marketing team is trapped in a basement and the only way they have to ask for help is through the product names.

Hmmm, let me see... Office visual studio enterprise vista team...

...

...

Bah, let them rot.

Re:Microsoft's naming policies... (2, Funny)

Aram Fingal (576822) | more than 6 years ago | (#23173060)

WinCE and WUS (Windows Update Server) are good examples too although both have since been replaced with other names. Just pronounce the acronyms as words.

Re:Microsoft's naming policies... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172704)

the marketingdroid runs linux :)

Same old, same old (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23171900)

Until they decide to close down the service because it isn't viable for whatever reason. Read a previous article where MS is shutting down their music store servers.

Another example of their take-the-money-and-run attitude. Thanks, but no thanks.

sorry your wrong (4, Insightful)

peragrin (659227) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171910)

It will only work with Windows Mobile devices. Compatibility with any other OS is strictly prohibited by military MSFT doctrine.

This mesh won't work with generic phones, Linux phones, the iPhone, or any one else. Remember it took the EU years in court and a billion dollar fine to just get MSFT to release Networking Protocols.

*note some sarcasm was used above, if you can not detect it your sarcasm meter is broken, or running windows and constantly pegged*

Re:sorry your wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23173502)

I'm bored, so take this:

"sorry your wrong"
"sorry you're wrong"
"Sorry you're wrong."
"Sorry, you're wrong."

Figure out the fucking difference.

Could be great. (2, Insightful)

SkankinMonkey (528381) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171912)

Despite the source, this could be a great tool for people if implemented correctly (and free). I already find myself using addons for firefox like FoxMarks to synchronize myself across several desktops/OS`. If this had even limited cross-platform support, or an open-API I'd imagine it could go pretty far.

Re:Could be great. (5, Insightful)

Uncle Focker (1277658) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172058)

If this had even limited cross-platform support, or an open-API I'd imagine it could go pretty far.
Did you miss the part where it's a Microsoft product?

Re:Could be great. (1)

SkankinMonkey (528381) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172096)

Notice I had a caveat at the beginning of my post. I do not believe Microsoft will completely open it up, but if a rival company (say google) were to break open with a competing suite, they (MS) may be forced to open up their API, to an extent, so they can compete.

Re:Could be great. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172850)

please somebody tell me why.. oh why must software be written for free? Can't anybody just make money for writing the dammed thing? Is there a problem with that? Seriously. Do you all really LOVE writing code that dammed much that you will give it away for free, or down and actively make war against a company, an individual, hell an entity even that just wants to make money WRITING CODE. Not supporting code. WRITING CODE. Give it fuckin rest already with the free code shit.

Microsoft Security (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23171924)

With Microsoft Security approach Mesh means security holes all around.

What if it were Google? (3, Interesting)

spazoid12 (525450) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171936)

"And since it's run by Microsoft, you know you can trust it."

I wonder if we'd get that comment if it were a Google service. Can we trust Google any more than Microsoft? Around here it sure seems like Google gets a free pass on everything and can do no wrong...

Re:What if it were Google? (2, Insightful)

Uncle Focker (1277658) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172108)

Around here it sure seems like Google gets a free pass on everything and can do no wrong...
Then you must not read much of the responses in Google threads. They get bashed all the time for their "privacy" policy among other things.

Re:What if it were Google? (3, Informative)

WhiteWolf666 (145211) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172222)

While I don't think they are saintly, Google hasn't pulled half of the shady shit Microsoft has. In terms of business ethics, Microsoft is really right up there with the uglier oil companies and tobacco company. They don't think in terms of what is legal; they think in terms of opportunity cost to illegal actions, with a healthy dosage of risk.

One should suspect all companies, as they are built on profit motives, however, Microsoft has a very very shady track record to boot.

Re:What if it were Google? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172858)

You do have to remember that Microsoft has been around a lot longer than Google so has had more time to do these shady business tactics. It isn't like anyone else isn't doing it as well, just look at apple recently with their software update and crippling of certain products on their system. Just wait awhile longer and Google will eventually be like Microsoft as in the end it is their shareholders who will control them.

Re:What if it were Google? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23173186)

In terms of business ethics, Microsoft is really right up there with the uglier oil companies and tobacco company.
One thing I love about Slashdot, is that everybody has such a great sense of perspective [corpwatch.org] .

Microsoft hein ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23171946)

I'll be looking forward to Google's version of it.

This will be great... (4, Insightful)

igotmybfg (525391) | more than 6 years ago | (#23171988)

... until they turn the servers off. Yesterday's PlaysForSure debacle comes to mind.

ms isn't the evil empire any more (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23171996)

"And since it's run by Microsoft, you know you can trust it."

And since this is slashdot, we can trust this will be the attitude.

when will people realize that MS is no longer the 'evil empire' it used to be? let's take google, a company that blatantly uses you to make tons of money marketing your habits - going through your searches, your e-mails, any and everything you do through their tools - they log it, track and sell that data.

Why is it, if Google does this it's become acceptable and if MS tries to do any of that in their software it's the worst thing that's possible.

You can't argue that people KNOW that google does that - your normal users don't know that you give google the right to go through all your e-mails if you use gmail, or if you use google groups, Google can share any and all data with any of their business associates - it's all in the fine print...

Why do people feel they can trust google and apple and not microsoft? They all have the same end goal and they all share the same 'evil' practices in one way or another...

Re:ms isn't the evil empire any more (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172176)

Why do people feel they can trust google and apple and not microsoft?
Um, experience.

Re:ms isn't the evil empire any more (2, Insightful)

just_another_sean (919159) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172214)

Why do people feel they can trust google and apple and not microsoft? They all have the same end goal and they all share the same 'evil' practices in one way or another...
Personally, out of innate paranoia, I don't trust any of them or any other big corps for that matter. But I could be the most blindly trusting individual in the world and not miss the writing on the wall about MS. And besides, evil done by another is never an excuse for evil done by yourself. If Apple and/or Google are involved in shady, underhanded, "evil" practices that doesn't suddenly make it OK for MS to do it. And vice versa.

Herd mentality + need for an 'enemy' (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172576)

If one drops the naively simplistic "MS bad, Google/Apple good" view, then it is harder to feel a sense of unity, because there is no real enemy out there. People, especially groups, need an enemy just as much as they need a force that can be considered a 'good guy.' Otherwise, it'd force people to admit that reality is far more complicated and they'd have to possibly even think a little bit before posting stupid memes to get bonus points that mean absolutely nothing.

Once we move to a more utilitarian, level-headed analysis of available tools and how they fit various needs, we will be more able to have a reasonable discussion. So long as we deify the makers of tools and feel slighted when something comes out that doesn't praise them, we'll be unable to have reasonable discussions. Currently, it seems more like users need to root for whatever toolset they use as if it was the local baseball team.

It's in their DNA, Mr. AC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172760)

when will people realize that MS is no longer the 'evil empire' it used to be? ... Why do people feel they can trust google and apple and not microsoft? They all have the same end goal...

Although they might both be businesses, they don't share the same value system or skillsets. Microsoft has institutionalized their LACK of integrity (lying, broken promises, deception, no sense of collaboration or appreciation of real genuine industry standards) and selfish control-freaky aggression into their DNA, and Microsoft has proven themselves technically incompetent and thus not earned trust.

You're probably right. I'll change my mind now that an anonymous coward has admits a company used to be an 'evil empire'... but now anonymously says it isn't. You're right, you're right, as for Microsoft we both love this company! [tinyurl.com] .

I'd trust MS before Google (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172004)

"And since it's run by Microsoft, you know you can trust it."

Um, isn't it Google's slashdot favorite GMail service that has had "trust" problems, including whole email accounts deleted, entire message boxes erased (unrecoverably), and multiple security flaws allowing bad guys to hack into people's accounts?

GMail has been very untrustworthy (compared to Live/Hotmail and Yahoo).

We've seen this before (4, Informative)

IGnatius T Foobar (4328) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172054)

Microsoft has tried this before, and the industry already told them "Go away, Microsoft. We don't want HailStorm [nytimes.com] acting as the official Microsoft Big Brother of our technology lives."

Re:We've seen this before (1)

esocid (946821) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172658)

The difference between the that and Live mesh is that LM isn't solely designed to store things on their servers. It does have that capability, Live Desktop, but someone would have to be crazy to store all your personal, financial, and sensitive information on a data retention server, owned by MS no less. I would have no use for LM, but would be very skeptical of using it if I did. Set up a VPN if you are that intent of viewing something at home from work, or vice-versa. MS may be heading in a direction, but I don't think it's in the right way.

I don't think it's necessary to RTFA (5, Insightful)

jimicus (737525) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172134)

Live Mesh synchronizes data across multiple devices (currently just Windows computers, but theoretically it will extend to mobile and other devices in the future) as well as to a web desktop that exists in the cloud.

Extend to other devices? Unless they're running Windows Mobile, pull the other one.

To my mind, this is an attempt to create a killer app which will tie everyone to Windows for another 5-10 years much like "I want shared calendars in Outlook and I'm prepared to pay a lot of money to get it" has tied businesses to Exchange for so long.

Re:I don't think it's necessary to RTFA (1)

Archis (1278074) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172646)

All these lockin arguments are highly irrelevant to the Mesh. The Mesh storage is all XML feeds over HTTP. Unless "GET http:/// [http] " is impossible on anything except Windows, I don't understand why everyone keeps harping on the lockin.

Re:I don't think it's necessary to RTFA (2, Insightful)

jimicus (737525) | more than 6 years ago | (#23173390)

So?

OOXML is all XML, that doesn't mean it's particularly usable as a standard for others to implement right now.

Live Meh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172152)

Sounds like another Microsoft poorly implemented technology initiative based around a marketing campaign.

Activesync (2, Insightful)

esocid (946821) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172196)

So I'm guessing activesync is going to be abandoned in the future for Live Mesh in terms of mobile devices? I never personally used activesync but I wonder if LM will absorb its responsibilities, and compatibilities. As long as there is no phoning home, I can see this having some good applications, but skepticism is always healthy.

Blue Light Special (1)

Xygon (578778) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172198)

I find it obscurely funny that the servers doing much of this demo are msbluelight -- the new technology that belongs on the back shelves of K-Mart.

PowerFolder - free open source alternative (1)

totmacher (1148817) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172348)

Sorry for posting this again, but:

Try PowerFolder. It's a mature alternative:
* The software works since 2003
* It gets actively developed
* It's open source - a free Basic client is available
* There is a commercial Pro client with advanced security and connectivity features and 5 GB Online backup space

http://www.powerfolder.com/ [powerfolder.com]

Best regards,
Christian

Re:PowerFolder - free open source alternative (1)

Miroe (1148841) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172922)

Yes i know i am using it too: nice product for cross platform stuff and best about this: its not Mircosoft.
SO if you are making a little bit advertisement here
for it i am the last to be angry. But don't overdose it. I really like the product and
i use it in my VPN/LAN. As long as you are not Spaming here you don't need to be sorry, i think. Thx MI

From the department-of-no-department (1)

JynXed (711029) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172416)

What the shit? Which slashdot department is this from? I don't know which bias I should read this story with now...

Yeah right (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172436)

Firstly to things:

1. I can't see the demo's, why? Apparently to "install Microsoft Silverlight to have a 'better' experience"... So no experience at all then.

2. I just must have a "Windows Live" account to sign in.

If these two small examples of Microsoft hubris, lock-in and lack of anything resembling open standards are to go by, then, no. No I shall not be partaking in their oh so, 'Wow' experience.

More high concept bullshit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172438)

This reminds me of when .NET and hailstorm were first announced and it's another all-encompassing system; this time for social data.

Microsoft approach problems from the top down;

There's an emerging market here, how can we own it and what buzzwords are hot?

For Microsoft cracking a nut involves copying competitors products and making sure only those with Microsoft brand gloves can use the resulting nutcracker. And again with the naming, .NET is a top level domain and not a java knock-off. A mesh network [wikipedia.org] is a well understood term and has nothing to do with centrally hosted data storage services -- and no offline web apps aren't relevant.

This just in... (2, Funny)

cloudkiller (877302) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172452)

Microsoft announced today that the Live Mesh servers are going dark on June 1. Any data that users stored in the Opens Fo' So' Live Mesh format will no longer be accessable. Microsoft would like to remind its customers that its users should begin printing and re-keying any important documents before the g-dark date.

mesh.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172580)

I wonder how much they paid for mesh.com? Can't see what it used to be on archive.org, but I bet the previous owners wish they could have charged 100x more for it...

Is it I$O spec yet? (2, Funny)

Akita24 (1080779) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172614)

Now that everybody is pre-bought it should only take a week or 2.

Is it just me, or is it a good idea (2, Informative)

WhiteWolf666 (145211) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172626)

To avoid any Microsoft product with the term "Live!" in the title?

Sure, actually, you should avoid all MS products, period. But especially the "Live!" Products. There's like... 200 of them on Wikipedia, and I've heard of maybe 10.

Re:Is it just me, or is it a good idea (0, Flamebait)

lilfields (961485) | more than 6 years ago | (#23173158)

Why was this even modded up? Anyone who says one platform has zero uses is just a psuedointellectual and pending on the situation either anti-Microsoft, anti-Google, anti-Linux or anti-Apple...of course the former is what it's in style apparently. I run Windows Vista x64, my server runs Linux, and I have a Google account. I used to have an iPod but now I have a Zune. Fanboys lose all credibility with statements like "you should avoid all MS products." If you are going to post such things you are contributing nothing to the conversation but libel; then again I guess we'd only have half the number of comments on any given Microsoft news.

Thank god for CmdrTaco.. (3, Insightful)

stubear (130454) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172664)

And since it's run by Microsoft, you know you can trust it. ...and the rest of the Slashdot staff for telling us how to think. I was afraid I was going to have to RTFA but that little quip at the end spared me from having to do anything other then clear away some space in front of my leg so I don't stub my toe.

and you can trust Google? (1)

xxdesmus (932581) | more than 6 years ago | (#23172730)

"And since it's run by Microsoft, you know you can trust it." Clearly we should all feel more trusting of Google I'm sure, right? The double standard is kind of a joke.

yea (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#23173290)

it was google which pulled the plug on bCentral ecommerce service and doomed thousands of estore owners. it was google which pulled the plug on their music service and shoved subscriptions of paying customers up their #sses. it was google which bribed standards boards in various countries to push their closed standard as an open standard. it is google which is being hammered by a class action lawsuit as of now because they fradulently named many hardware as vista capable despite they were not, suprisingly frankly and openly conspiring through emails records on their corporate network, which has been procured through court order and came to the light of day. are those enough, or do i need to go way back towards 1980s ?

Alternatives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172884)

An excellent, up and coming alternative to this is Dropbox [getdropbox.com] . Currently in beta, so you have to register for an invite. But it works on Windows, Mac and (in a few weeks time) Linux.

I've been testing it for the past few weeks and it really is very slick. It stores a backup copy (up to 2GB in the beta) on their servers - actually hosting in Amazon's S3 - and syncs to all the rest of your computers. The service is integrated into your local filesystem, so it's very seamless. It also stores all revisions and allows you to roll back to any of them, and undo deletions.

Anyway, I'm rather impressed.

Cloud computing, eh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23172984)

with the crashing to the ground in a burning wreck because of excessive bloat killing millions OH DEAR GOD PLEASE NO

One Mesh to find them all (1)

Iowan41 (1139959) | more than 6 years ago | (#23173038)

and in the Gitmo, bind them.

MESH ALREADY MEANS ADHOC ROUTABLE NETWORKS DAMNIT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23173040)

"Mesh" already refers to wifi networks that self-organise with mesh routing protocols. Microsoft is grossly abusing the terminology here. I noticed people are using the "cloud" meaningless buzzword where before they used the "grid" buzzword, and didn't care much - in general, good indication of hype-over-substance, but Mesh Networking is real and practical, there are IETF standards, protocols like BATMAN, etc. , and this "Microsoft Live Mesh" crap has jack shit to do with mesh networking.

what about the servers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23173274)

as long as they don't turn the servers off. After then DRM thing that was on here yesterday, can you image how much more screwed you'd be if they 'turned off' all your data?

Google sounds worse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23173364)

"Google's AdSense Mesh service launched today as an invite only "technology preview". It is Google's attempt to tie all of our data together. AdSense Mesh synchronizes data across multiple devices (currently just Linux computers, but theoretically it will extend to mobile and other devices in the future) as well as to a web desktop that exists in the cloud. It can sync data across devices used by a single users, as well as create shared spaces for multiple users."

And since it's run by Google, you know you can trust it.

That's so much better!

give it up, Microsoft (3, Insightful)

nguy (1207026) | more than 6 years ago | (#23173380)

The days of single platform computing and lock-in are over. After Vista and "Plays for Sure", even the most die-hard Microsoft fans must have figured out that betting on all-Microsoft solutions is a sure way to lose.

I guess none of you use MS Products? (2, Interesting)

HerculesMO (693085) | more than 6 years ago | (#23173444)

Because Sharepoint is kind of like this already, it keeps everybody in our organization synchronized as far as our documentation and other things.

Of course, the willingness to bash is always entertaining, but the primary strength of Microsoft is its OWN interoperability, and making it easier for folks to keep synchronized only enhances their market position.

But please, continue with the bashing... it really makes *Nix seem like a viable alternative when all the sysadmins for those systems shit on Microsoft, without having any other arguments why to go for Linux other than "Open Source".

And for the record, I dual boot Ubuntu and Windows on my workstation PC.

Future Microsoft Email (1)

quonsar (61695) | more than 6 years ago | (#23173472)

As of August 31, 2010, we will no longer be able to support the retrieval of <strike>license keys for the songs you purchased from</strike> data stored in <strike>MSN Music</strike> Microsoft Live Mesh folders...

it's so SHINY (1)

ichbineinneuben (1065378) | more than 6 years ago | (#23173490)

Wow, the icons on that page are sure shiny. Even the folders are made out of chrome. Blue chrome folders so shiny you want to put them in your mouth. Who wouldn't want to be part of that?
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