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Disillusioned With IT?

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the buy-the-red-convertible dept.

Businesses 1027

cgh4be writes "I have been working in the IT industry for about 12 years and have had various jobs as a consultant and systems engineer. Over that time I've had the chance to do a little bit of everything: programming, networking, SAN, Linux/AIX/UNIX, Windows, sales, support, and on and on. However, over the last couple of months I have become a little disillusioned with the IT industry as a whole. Occasionally, I will get interested in some new technology, but for the most part I'm starting to find it all very tedious, repetitive, and boring and I'm no longer really interested in the hands-on aspect of the business. I suppose going the management route is one option, but I would still be dealing with a lot of the same frustrating technology issues. The other route I had in mind was a complete career change; take something I really enjoy doing outside of work now and try to make a career out of it. The only problem is that I have a wife and kid to support and my current job pays very well. Have any of you been through this kind of career 'mid-life crisis?' What did you do to get out of the rut? Is making a complete career change at this point a bad idea?"

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My vote... (5, Insightful)

jnutt (1255822) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243184)

Do what you love. In the end it is all that matters.

This post is brought to you by Hans Reiser's shred (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243198)

This post is brought to you by Hans Reiser's shredded anus, which is by now no doubt being passed around the jail house like a pack of smokes. His poor anus probably now resembles a pastrami sandwich that fell apart. I wonder if he'll describe that experience in the passive voice...

Re:This post is brought to you by Hans Reiser's sh (-1, Troll)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243446)

Without his money no one, man or woman, is going to fuck him.

Re:My vote... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243216)

And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.

Re:My vote... (1)

Critical Facilities (850111) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243396)

Yes.....and the walrus was Paul.

Not at all (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243228)

I am only disallusioned by the fact that my boss is so stupid.

Re:Not at all (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243584)

Grasshopper, if you had the illusion your boss wasn't stupid, you've got shit for brains.

Re:My vote... (1)

jonnyredbeard (892261) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243234)

You can always get a traveling IT job. New Countries always keep it fresh.

Re:My vote... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243280)

If I was only doing what I love, which is playing video games and read I would be starving and homeless in no time.

In the end only CASH matters, you have money, you can do anything you want, you don't have money, you probably can't do anything at all.

Re:My vote... (5, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243300)

Do what you love. In the end it is all that matters.

But pr0n don't pay if you are male

Re:My vote... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243534)

gay porn does. hey a mouth's a mouth, right?

right guys?

or am I alone on this one?

99.9999% of tech is repetitive and borring (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243468)

99.9999% of tech is repetitive. That is just the harsh reality. If you grew up on Sci-Fi and kewl hacker movies then you might be a bit saddened about the true state of things.

As for the "do what you love" crowd, sorry but adults have to live in the real world and pay the rent, put food on the table, and put clothing on the backs of their children. This idealism sounds great, but it rarely pays the bills.

Re:My vote... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243478)

A while ago Id asked a very similar Ask Slashdot. Specifically about switching from IT to filmmaking/animation. The question was blackholed into oblivion, obviously by some f***ing aspergers addled IT monster of a moderator. Obviosuly I dont miss the hell on earth thats workaday IT. There are fine IT folks and engaging problems within IT, but those are limited ration of sodas in hell.

Just ditch the cubicle and become a cubist man!

Thats irrational and selfish. (2, Insightful)

elucido (870205) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243494)

If you want to do what you love for all of your life, you shouldn't have kids. The moment you have kids, what you love no longer matters anymore.

The moment you have kids, all your hopes, your dreams, you can throw all of it in the trash. Once you have those kids your purpose in life is those kids and nothing else matters besides those kids.

Just because you feel like doing something else it doesn't change the fact that your purpose in life is to protect your family (your kids). It does not change the fact that you are the only person in the world who can protect them, and they need you.

So what you love doesn't have anything to do with how able you are to provide to your children. You might not love IT anymore, but if it pays well, nothing else matters because the whole point to your existence is to protect and raise children.

If you aren't having kids, then the situation is different. If you don't want kids then you are free to do whatever makes you happy for the whole of your entire life. As long as it pays decent, you'll probably find and keep a woman somewhere in between.

Re:My vote... (1)

trainman (6872) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243622)

Do what you love. In the end it is all that matters.
True enough, I agree (and have been feeling IT career malaise lately as well).

But my advise is to wait until the current economic slump is over. If you have a good job, keep it! Stick it out until the economy is hot and you can take your pick of jobs. Then switch quick so you can work your way up far enough before the next economic cycle.

kill your wife (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243194)

that'll break the doldrums.

You've been working for 12 years, right? (4, Insightful)

everphilski (877346) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243196)

So you have a nice little nest egg stashed away, right? Saving for retirement? Rainy day fund? How much reserves you got to start something on your own?

If you do, then start thinking about doing that right now while you have this well-paying job, and spend some of your evening hours developing a business plan, potential clientele, educating yourself.

If you don't, then you need to take a few years to build that nest egg up, to be responsible to your wife and kids.

Re:You've been working for 12 years, right? (1, Interesting)

DaedalusHKX (660194) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243464)

Therein lies the fundamental flaw of the disjointed family structure. Most modern westerners do not have a family relationship to fall back upon if disaster strikes. Most hurry and raise families, much like in "olden times" but without the support network that was once available. Raising a family while very young is the trap that lords and masters have laid into the path of the peasant since lords and masters have been around. See, once you have children, they have something they can use to keep you honest (read, subservient, read also, shackled). See, a man who accepts that all is transient, and family comes and goes as does youth and riches and poverty, will be hard to shackle down, or to enslave. Such a man is best hired, killed or left alone, since enslaving him against his will is hard to do.

I saw many of my former classmates from high school, have kids, get married, etc. All of them before they were old enough to think for themselves.

High school mostly retarded our growth and turned us into semi literate graduates. As a result we had another 4 to 8 years worth of growth required to match what our grandparents were by the age of 16. We're still breeding at young ages, but we are not emotionally or mentally mature enough to understand the ramifications of what we are doing as an age group. Thirty years of age is the earliest I've heard recommended by some of my currently breeding peers, as the age when they should've started breeding. Most breed before they even hit 20. They then become enslaved to the threat that their children will lose their home.

Re:You've been working for 12 years, right? (1)

NeutronCowboy (896098) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243536)

Even if you don't have a nest-egg, reevaluate what you - and your family REALLY needs. Do you need a flat screen TV? Any TV? Do you need a car? Can a bike work instead? Do you really need 2000 square feet house? Or just 1200? Do you need to live where you do? Can you move somewhere else? How much stuff does your family need? Note that this will be something that you'll have to discuss with them in depth, and you'll have to achieve consensus.

It's amazing how little you actually NEED, as opposed to how much you want. Once you differentiate between the two, a complete career change won't look nearly as daunting.

Reality check, please! (5, Insightful)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243212)

If you're in the U.S., you should look around you at what is happening to the economy, and what direction it's headed. THEN make up your mind about whether you want to change careers right now.

Surely it's obvious (1)

bloodredsun (826017) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243214)

management is calling.

Re:Surely it's obvious (1)

MetricT (128876) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243462)

I actually did this (worked on my Executive MBA, graduate in 10 days). Different strokes for different folks, but I actually enjoyed most of my classes. If you've never had classes in economics, finance, negotiations, entrepreneurship, business law, you might want to take some classes at your local community college and see how you like them. There are "business geeks" the same way there are "computer geeks" and "science geeks"; not all MBA's fit the stereotype. In fact, I would say that they were the minority of our class.

The MBA is nice because it gives you access to entire new types of work, but also simply because it lets you exercise parts of your brain that the technical side of things doesn't. It's made me a lot happier.

Ask elsewhere too (4, Funny)

SleptThroughClass (1127287) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243222)

The other route I had in mind was a complete career change; take something I really enjoy doing outside of work now and try to make a career out of it.
Don't know if /. can answer that. All of the replies are always strictly on topic and accurate about technological issues.

Re:Ask elsewhere too (1)

Em Adespoton (792954) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243422)

I second this... having been in the same situation and gone the management route, I sometimes wish I'd taken the other. However, /. isn't really the place to ask for that -- ask people you know in the areas you're considering. If you don't know any people, start to build up a network -- join some online forums, join a club, etc.

Also, consider some business management night school courses, as you'll probably need them no matter which direction you decide to take.

Man Up (5, Insightful)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243226)

Occasionally, I will get interested in some new technology, but for the most part I'm starting to find it all very tedious, repetitive, and boring and I'm no longer really interested in the hands-on aspect of the business.
I spent the majority of my childhood until I was 18 picking rock and bailing hay on a farm. You think you're in a tedious, repetitive and boring job? The fact that you're posting on Slashdot during work hours tells me otherwise. I'll bet you have air conditioning.

I know this is a bad thing that Americans don't like to dwell on but you should be happy you have a solid source of income and work in comfortable environments. Most people outside of the industrialized world can't say that.

The only problem is that I have a wife and kid to support and my current job pays very well.
If you can't find joy in your job and you can't find another job with comparable income, then find joy in your family. Generations before you have worked in mills, textile plants, mines, slaughterhouses, etc. all in the name of their wives, daughters & sons living a free life. Again, if I were you, I would opt to be thankful I can provide for my family under much better circumstances (and probably at much higher pay with inflation taken into account).

On the other hand, I recognize that the young idealist in us all strikes [] every now and then. But you've got a family and a paying job so I would recommend you focus on those aspects instead of risking them. I guess if you do decide to act on your instincts, ask them if they're willing to accept the risk for your happiness at work. They're now part of your life and depending on you so respect that and be responsible.

Re:Man Up (2, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243342)

I just had a horrid flashback to all the shitty jobs I worked before I got my degree. No matter what I do now, I can always say that at least it's better than cutting tobacco, working as a janitor, or working in a convenience store.

Re:Man Up (1)

SatanicPuppy (611928) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243434)

Eh. You can make a good living doing something besides IT. I got into IT because I hated the fuzzy-minded crap I was doing and longed for some of that cold hard machine logic. One day I'll get sick of the hours and the work week, and do something else.

The family thing is real, but usually if you can do something like IT then you're suited for a lot of other work as well. All you really need is a decent wage and insurance. Lot of times you can move to a place where the cost of living is different, and a lower paying job will get you a similar quality of life.

It's also worthwhile to just look for a different IT job. IT is a huge field; you can't dismiss it all with any one set of issues (unless they're of the "I hate technology" sort).

Re:Man Up (1)

cgh4be (182894) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243482)

You make a good point. I have worked hard, physical jobs in the past, so I do appreciate the value of having a stable professional career.

That being said, I also appreciate the value of coming home after a long day of work feeling like I accomplished something, even if it was just bucking bales.

Re:Man Up (4, Funny)

Tyler Durden (136036) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243608)

I spent the majority of my childhood until I was 18 picking rock and bailing hay on a farm. You think you're in a tedious, repetitive and boring job? The fact that you're posting on Slashdot during work hours tells me otherwise. I'll bet you have air conditioning.

Peter Gibbons: This isn't so bad, huh? Makin' bucks, gettin' exercise, workin' outside.
Lawrence: Fuckin' A.
Peter Gibbons: [nods] Fuckin' A.
- Office Space

well.. (5, Insightful)

thermian (1267986) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243236)

I have a wife and kid, and had a long term career that I was fundamentally bored with. I quit, went to back uni, and ten years later don't regret a thing.

I say take the chance, or risk looking back in ten years and wondering where your life went, seriously.

Re:well.. (1)

FuzzyDaddy (584528) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243626)

I don't know if you are in the US or elsewhere, but going back to school is an expensive proposition in the US.

My wife is currently going through a graduate program in Psychology (after six years at home with the kids, and a totally unrelated field before then.) It's well worth it - she's going to be a terrific therapist, and she loves it. We're able to manage it by taking out loans for her (>$100K for her), living off of my income (which we've been doing for six years now), and because we are lucky enough to have very reasonable housing payments.

It's well worth it in our case (she loves it and will have a well paid career eventually), but it certainly makes things tight. You need to really have a passion for what you're doing and a reasonable financial plan to get there.

Did your wife earn an income when you were in school?

First, look at what you like to do (2, Insightful)

spun (1352) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243240)

Can you make money at it? Do some informational interviews with people in the field. Cold call around and tell them what you are doing, see if they will talk to you. Most people love to talk about their job. Then you can make an informed decision. Go over your finances, estimate how long it will take for you to get established in your new field, and save up more than that.

Then go for it. Plenty of people change careers and are happier for it.

No more illusions ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243242)

No more illusions ?
Isn't that better for your mental health ?

Become a vendor (1)

Danborg (62420) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243250)

Sell out and become a vendor. Find a product that you like, and go to work for the company that makes it. They always appreciate people who can relate to their customers as to why you should buy their products.
Odds are you will make much more money and have a much better quality of life. (No more "on call", etc)

Your wife (2, Insightful)

anthro398 (729495) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243252)

told me to tell you to hang in there. She probably didn't marry a landscape engineer (yard mower) intentionally. Perhaps you should start exploring other things you can do to give your life purpose: volunteer to help stupid kids, keep poor people from eating each other, or help a sleazy, lying politician get elected. I expect the 'mid-life crisis' is a recent phenomenon that started picking up about the same time Americans started having more leisure time to stare at their navels and contemplate their existence.

Or you could just learn to love what you do (1)

sheph (955019) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243254)

There is something to be said for finding contentment in that which is otherwise tedious. There's got to be some aspect of what you do that is rewarding on some level. Focus on that, and forget about the negatives.

Not suprising (1)

Noexit (107629) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243264)

Welcome to life over 35.

Re:Not suprising (1)

berashith (222128) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243552)

crap , Im 35 in 2 months ...

Become a Lumberjack! (1)

Bob the Hamster (705714) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243270)

Quit Your Job and Become a Lumberjack!

It's what I dream of doing every time the Windows XP print spooler hands when I am trying to check the properties of a print queue.

Family is all that matters in life. (3, Insightful)

elucido (870205) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243272)

Everything should be a means to an end with the goal being to protect and support your family.

If your job pays good money, be a man and provider and sacrifice your happiness so your child can have a better life. Having 8 hours of boring yet high paying work is better than having 8 hours of fun yet low paying work, because the boring life is better for your wife and kids welfare.

Re:Family is all that matters in life. (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243412)

Having 8 hours of boring yet high paying work is better than having 8 hours of fun yet low paying work

Not if you're single with no kids!

Re:Family is all that matters in life. (5, Insightful)

MilesAttacca (1016569) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243450)

Sure, work hard at a boring job so that your child has all the right opportunities to grow up and do the same for his child.

From my point of view, it's better to take a fun but low-paying job, because you'd inspire your kid to follow his own dreams instead of taking the easy way out. (There's also the side benefit of perhaps not being so materially-focused.) Plus, even with your responsibility for others, it is still your life -- as long as you can still keep your family in food and shelter, why not enjoy it?

Also, don'tcha want to be the "cool dad" everyone else's kids want to have? :P

Re:Family is all that matters in life. (1)

Foddz (1181575) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243458)

Sacrificing for your family's well-being and happiness is a noble cause indeed... but why make sacrifices if you don't have to? It never hurts to look around and see what your options are - there may well be something more appealing that offers equivalent pay/job security/etc. You'll never know unless you look. Burying your head in the sand and resigning to your current fate is a very defeatist approach. Family is important, be sure you can take care of those who depend on you - but don't let it trap you into believe you're stuck being unhappy with your career for the next X years until retirement.

Re:Family is all that matters in life. (1)

NeutronCowboy (896098) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243614)

Err... sacrificing your happiness generally leads to sacrificing your family's happiness. The resentment that comes from that can be mind-crushing.

The real question is: how many of your needs (and your family's) are wants, and how many are actual needs? People have raised well-adjusted kids on what would now be considered abject poverty. It can be done again.

Re:Family is all that matters in life. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243618)

My god, you people are provincial.

Work locally, think tribally

It's all about the benjamins. (4, Insightful)

SatanicPuppy (611928) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243286)

IT sucks. It's a hard, high-stress field that demands constant study and practice.

This is why it pays well.

Don't expect to be able to hop out of the field and be able to command the same salary unless you have some well-established, lucrative backup profession.

If you really can't take it anymore, expect to downsize your life somewhat. Lack of stress may make up for lack of cash.

The IT industry is maturing (4, Insightful)

seifried (12921) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243290)

No surprise, the IT industry is maturing (slowly, but steadily). Things should be getting a little more boring for your standard administrator, we have begin to learn and apply the lessons learned over the last 40 years (a.k.a. "best practices", a terrible buzz phrase but an accurate one). So now you have a choice: you can leave IT and find another fiend that is less mature and still growing rapidly, or you can find an environment that still encourages and rewards innovation and new ideas, in other words the difference between slowly tweaking the system so it is more efficient and creating entirely new systems (that may or may not be more efficient, only one way to find out =). My advice is change your job before you change your career.

Re:The IT industry is maturing (1)

seifried (12921) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243312)

begin -> begun. fiend -> field. No more posting comments before first coffee.

Re:The IT industry is maturing (1)

berashith (222128) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243638)

I thought fiend was intentional. Describing IT in its earlier phases this way could be accurate. I know that I would have my eyes wide open to the expected challenges if I were trying to begin again in an industry in its early phases.

What exactly is boring? (1)

mcwop (31034) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243292)

All work can get boring, I think you need to find a way to spice it up.

Re:What exactly is boring? (1)

cgh4be (182894) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243528)

Solving the same problems over and over, getting excited about some new technology only to find that it is overly complicated and full of false promises. Not really feeling like anyone gives a crap what we do.

Re:What exactly is boring? (1)

Em Adespoton (792954) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243538)

As that can be taken in WAY too many wrong ways, I'll provide some suggestions:
Find a hobby
Do some contract work
Find a long-term project at work that you can work on alongside your regular tasks
Find a hobby you can share with your family

Since you're an IT worker, I'd suggest the best thing to do would be to start putting more emphasis on your non-working hours. Talk to your boss about cutting back on your hours if you need to, and supplement your work with contract work. Variety is the spice of life; make sure you've got the right spices.

You're not the only one. (1)

AceyMan (199978) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243298)

I've been in IT for a shorter period (9 years), but I'm coming to a similar conclusion, although my reasons are different.

IT has, in my mind, become an endless game of cat and mouse, usually of two forms, namely (A) whitehat vs. blackhat (e.g., a Sisyphusian game of "find hole, patch hole, repeat...") or (B) perpetually explaining needs and then begging the brass for the assets required to do your job effectively (which largely consists of form (B)).

Both are tiring and not so much fun.

Here's a suggestion (4, Funny)

Colin Smith (2679) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243306)

Set up a large network of thousands of machines, install on them all, some genetic programming software, then have them generate billions of random applications. Then simply release the resulting ecosystem into the Internet. See what happens then.


Re:Here's a suggestion (1)

MilesAttacca (1016569) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243502)

Eventually the odds are such that this will produce a great RPG of all the works of Shakespeare. :P

Time to become a drunk (3, Insightful)

tjstork (137384) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243318)

Well, let's face it. You didn't get to be an astronaut who went on to be President and beat off an invading alien dinosaur army while curing cancer and feeding a billion starving people, while mistresses of all potential clamoured for your body.

Oh well.

Take some of that dough, get yourself a nice tv and a good bottle of whiskey, enjoy your family at home. You hunter now, must bring home bacon for family. and, if the job you picked sucks, well, at least you got the big tv and a bottle of booze.

welcome to america buddy....

Do what everyone else does (3, Funny)

eln (21727) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243320)

Get a Porsche and a mistress.

Seriously though, everyone goes through this sort of thing. Since you have responsibilities, you basically just have to decide if the money you make in this field is worth the crap you have to deal with. Keep in mind that a lot of the frustration you're feeling is probably directly related to the fact that you're encumbered with responsibilities, and you aren't free to move around like you were when you were single and childless, so you would likely feel trapped in your job no matter what you were doing at this stage in your life.

If you decide it isn't, you have to come up with a plan that will allow you to pursue something else without making your family live in a box. You may decide to go to school part time at night and work during the day. This means you see less of the family in the short term and it means you have to keep dealing with the crap for a few more years, but it's sacrificing now for a better tomorrow. I've done it, and it kind of sucks, but if you're the sole or major breadwinner in the family, it's probably either that or just deal with the IT crap until the kids graduate from college.

The important part is... (1)

ZWarrior (194861) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243324)

... you are enjoying your work. A wise man once said "Do what you love and you will never work another day in your life."

I am in the process of changing careers from IT for much the same reason. Our stress levels are much higher, as are our caffeine levels, due to the nature of our industry. The hours are rough and we really don't get paid for all that time worked.

My change is taking place in a staged process because I have to continue the income to support my family while doing this. My family supports me in this because ultimately it means I am happier and we spend more time together. They, and I, know that this will take several years while I switch and we plan accordingly for vacations and other events.

If you aren't happy, examine what the source of that displeasure is and make plans to correct that.

What did I do to get out of the rut? (4, Interesting)

Ynsats (922697) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243330)

I built a race car.

Seriously. I got together with a friend of mine who is a mechanic and put together a race car to go drag racing. We've won events with national sponsorship, got on TV and even have magazines asking for photoshoots.

I was able to learn alot and I even applied my IT skills in tuning fuel injection and ignition control systems. Now there are people begging me to tune their cars for them and I might actually have a side business that is quite lucrative for not alot of effort given my extensive computer based background. If I play those cards right, I could end up being a legitimate chassis builder and tuner. Kinda cool when you think about how something that was just intended to get my mind off my problems turned into something like that.

get a girlfriend (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243334)

That's all you need.

Remember: (1)

Safiire Arrowny (596720) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243344)

Never get married or have children and this can never happen to you.

It's obvious, IT isn't your first love. (1)

weyesone (1216104) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243348)

Don't blame the industry, but the actual individuals that suck at IT. So I can understand how you feel, but I've been in I.T. since I had a computer in my hands (Commodore 64) at the age of 15 (I'm 36 now). I've done con-sulting for 10+ years and recently accepted a full-time position as a Technical Developer. Since I love this stuff, warts & all, I keep myself up-to-date and busy by doing things. Whether it is building my home video/music server (OS X Server) to writing code for home use and work related activities. So maybe you tried this IT stuff out and after 10 years, finally decided it's not what you're good at. This sounds harsh, and it is, because I deal with more people in IT who are in it for the money. They don't like quality and are a pain in the ass to deal with. This attitude trickles up to management as well, because those so called wanna be IT people look for promotions, so that they don't have to do hands on work any more. So good luck in your next career. I hope I die at my keyboard or in front of my server rack at home. Peace

Go to law school . . . (1)

junklogin (1002872) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243354)

That kinda worked for me --> Of course, then you just become disillusioned with the entire legal system. :(

Take an extended leave (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243362)

6 months or so. Use this time to do something completely unrelated to your current job: gardening, mountain climbing, go around the world, until you realize that you need to get back to what you used to do in your job.

My Advice (1)

networkzombie (921324) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243366)

It's not only what you love, it's also what you can do well. I suggest you find another area of IT that you are interested in, such as writing gyroscope drivers for Predator Drones or designing bongs in SolidWorks. Don't let your computer knowledge go to waste. The IT field is a large one, I'm there is something out there that you love to do and can do it well.

Baskin Robbins (5, Insightful)

ohzero (525786) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243368)

You have what I like to call Baskin Robbins Syndrome. It's where you really really dig ice cream - UNTIL you get a job where you can eat a bunch of free ice cream. You now loathe ice cream.

Unfortunately this cycle is perpetual. Baskin Robbins Syndrome applies to any profession. So even if you're immensely interested in what you do for a living, you will eventually grow to hate it. Don't you think Taco and crew have had mornings where they wake up and go "wow, fuck slashdot, im going to go be a hamster farmer..."

I went through this a few years ago with IT security. I even tried going into gaming. Eventually I solved the problem by taking a year off of anything work related to travel and clear my brain. This isn't an option for a lot of people, but if you can do it, it will change your perspective in a huge way.

I Left I.T. In 2002 (1)

Ganty (1223066) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243372)

I left the computer industry in 2002 after I got tired of it all. I now teach science three days a week to junior school kids and although the pay is much lower I can sleep at nights.

Peter Gant

Do what you like...unless money gets in the way (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243376)

It can only be a good or bad idea in terms of money. You have to survive someone and maintain an acceptable (to you/your family) way of living. A new job might not pay as much (or much more?). But like others say, if you can live by doing what you love then that is they way to go. Quality of life improves. That's what it's all about. :)

Life is about sacrifce. (1)

elucido (870205) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243380)

We sacrifice all the time to get what we want or need out of life.

We go to college, sacrificing our youth so that when the time comes we can afford/support to maintain a wife and child (family).

What is the cost of maintaining a family? Often we have to settle for a boring yet high paying career path because thats what will get us the woman of our dreams.

Despite what people say, women want men who have good high paying jobs rather than men who are happy but total bums. And children NEED a parent who makes enough money to protect them.

You have to protect them by raising them in a nice neighborhood. You have to protect them by putting them in private school so they can get a good education. You have to protect them using your high salary.

The cost of getting and maintaining a family continues to increase, and despite what anyone says, it's not and never has been free. Families are expensive, and require total devotion and sacrifice to maintain.

Re:Life is about sacrifce. (1)

russotto (537200) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243516)

We sacrifice all the time to get what we want or need out of life.

We go to college, sacrificing our youth so that when the time comes we can afford/support to maintain a wife and child (family).

So where's the reward for all this sacrifice? You sacrifice your youth for education. You sacrifice your middle age for remuneration. At retirement, if you did well, you're too old to enjoy it, and if you didn't you're trying to decide which generic dry pet food tastes best. And the cycle repeats in the next generation. So why bother?

Construction (4, Funny)

ebunga (95613) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243382)

Several of my friends did construction for a while. A year later they were back in IT. They say the change was great.

do what are good at to earn a living (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243414)

and do what you have fun with in your spare time, at least if you have got a family to support.

Perhaps ask yourself whether it es really the technology or the industry that wears you out, or if you could have a lot of fun in your industry if just the surrounding conditions would be better. Colleagues you have fun with, your work getting appreciated etc. Also, why not seek the self-fulfilment you long for with your family?

Just my 2cent, just something to think about.

Ease out. (1)

Buddy_DoQ (922706) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243416)

Just ease out of it. You don't have to ditch the job straight away to move on to other professions. For myself, I've got a great IT job, I could see myself here for quite a long time. Is it my childhood dream of traveling the world showing my awesome movies to the masses? No, but that's why I work on the dream nights & weekends in an office I built out of the upstairs game-room. This way, slowly but surely, I can ease myself into a position where I can make a choice that won't wreck my life, financially speaking.

I am there with you. (1)

elrick_the_brave (160509) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243418)

Disillusionment comes in many forms. I believe what you are experiencing is something I am experiencing. A general disappointment with satisfaction of life (probably your career is big in your life right now - so you focus on it).

Take a step back and really look at all aspects of your life and what you derive satisfaction from. Take a determined step to be positive every day. This won't solve a problem but will arm you with the attitude to continue to do your best at all aspects of your life.

You may find another career path is warranted. That takes planning and time. You can engineer a change to make as much or as little impact to your family. Discuss the change with your spouse and see how different scenarios would affect both yourself and your family. You may find that sacrificing those Starbuck coffees can save you a lot of money.

Life is about change. You should embrace your understanding of yourself and all around you. You will then have all the tools you need to make those big decisions with your spouse in a more informed manner.

Trust me, went through this with my wife. As much as I prepared her for even just a job change, she still had doubts. You have to tackle those head on or it'll cause stress.

Proper planning and saving will give you the freedom to explore more options. Again, be positive every day and look at it as an opportunity. Do your best with consideration for your relationships. Love your family. Family counts and you would be surprised where you can pull support from (parents, spouse, siblings, siblings of spouse, friends, etc) - use it.

I'm in the same boat... (1)

ckaminski (82854) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243424)

I've been staring at the realization that after fourteen years of doing this, computers have gotten faster, storage has grown exponentially, and yet we're still fighting the same damn fights, technology has not made our lives easier, software is not growing in relation to the hardware advancements we've made. It's like having a jet fighter with buggy reins for steering and ball muskets for cannons.

So I'm going back to school. I'm getting an EE degree, going to pick up an education degree and maybe a business degree, and look forward to my senior years teaching kids about why exactly Calculus is useful. Having a goal is often enough to help you overlook the misery or lack of excitement or challenge, as you weather a slowing economy, while awaiting the perfect opportunity to find another job. Not every place is as backwards as where we are now. You might want a startup next time (cut in pay, bennies). Perhaps contracting? Tough with a wife and kids a mortgage and two car loans (just for example).

But give yourself something to look forward to, a challenge, even if it's amorphous and seven years in the future (like mine, six now. :) ). Time keeps ticking, set yourself up to retire happy.

Maybe it's not your job, but your life situation (1)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243426)

It sounds like you have been in IT for a very long time, and you're probably quite good at it. Could it be that you are actually sick of your home and family life?

Perhaps you should find yourself an Internet girlfriend and start up a nice little affair. That will help keep things interesting in your life without sacrificing the stability of your current job!

Adminspotting (2, Insightful)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243440)

(Ten years ago, I saw this gem in the Scary Devil Monastery, and printed it out. It still rings true.)

Choose no life. Choose sysadminning. Choose no career. Choose no family. Choose a fucking big computer, choose hard disks the size of washing machines, old cars, CD ROM writers and electrical coffee makers. Choose no sleep, high caffeine and mental insurance. Choose fixed interest car loans. Choose a rented shoebox. Choose no friends. Choose black jeans and matching combat boots. Choose a swivel chair for your office in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose NNTP and wondering why the fuck you're logged on on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting in that chair looking at mind-numbing, spirit-crushing web sites, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last on some miserable newsgroup, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up lusers Gates spawned to replace the computer-literate.

Choose your future.

Choose to sysadmin[1].

[1] It might fuck you up a little less than heroin[2].
[2] ObFootnote.

stay out of management it's a one-way street (1)

petes_PoV (912422) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243466)

They're high risk and not very satisfying. Once you go into a management job, your tech skills will start to atrophy. If you ever want to go back into a productive job, you'll find that things have moved on. You'll also find you're being judged on the basis of how others produce results, which may not be under your control. Also, management jobs are intangible - no-one can really say what value you add. As a consequence they're very easy to cut, without affecting the overall performance of the organisation. So the risk of losing your job is quite high. You can move into management, but it's very hard to get back out.

Change is scary but change can be good (1)

sjbe (173966) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243474)

The only problem is that I have a wife and kid to support and my current job pays very well. Have any of you been through this kind of career 'mid-life crisis?'
Yes. I'm an engineer by training and by vocation for the last decade. However I realized a few years ago the career prospects for me in my engineering field are somewhat limited, not to mention boring, compared to what I ultimately want to do. So I've been diversifying, learning about finance and several other fields necessary for my goals and slowly changing my career path.

What did you do to get out of the rut?
I went to graduate school personally but that's not the only way to do it. It was just the most condensed way to get the education I felt I needed. What I'd recommend is to start talking to people you trust, preferably people with a lot of experience in various fields and ask them about what it is they do. You'll learn a lot but also probably get some very good advice along the way.

Is making a complete career change at this point a bad idea?"
No, especially if you have some money saved away. The tough question actually isn't should you change. The tough question is what should you change to? Took me a long time to figure that one out.

Quit your job and chase a dream! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243500)

My suggestion to you is to become an entrepreneur and start your own business. Having so much experience and a diverse skill set in the IT industry, now is a perfect time to sit back and create a company to solve issues you've encountered. What problems are common to all IT departments? The best business ideas are derived from a need not adequately being met and your in a unique position to identify and hopefully fulfill that need. Work on creating your business plan and raising capital in your spare time until you feel comfortable enough to quit your job and work at it full time. It's not an easy task, but the rewards are well worth it. Good Luck!

Tough one (3, Insightful)

FuzzyDaddy (584528) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243506)

As someone who is also the sole support of a wife and kids, I sympathize with your position.

What I'd suggest is to keep your current job for the time being, and spend some time looking around for what you do enjoy doing. This may or may not be work related. Start and abandon some hobbies, take up martial arts, take some college classes either inside your field or far away from it. But your goal is just to find something you find meaningful.

Supporting a family and loving your work is a tough balance - it would be much easier if your focus was one way or the other, and you will make little compromises on either side. If you make too big a compromise either way, for too long, you will end up regretting it.

So my balanced suggestion is - look around for something that excites you. Give yourself some time to find it. Meantime, don't quit the day job.

Maybe think about technology research? (2, Interesting)

Enleth (947766) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243508)

From what you said, I guess you have quite a lot of first-hand experience and knowledge in a broad set of technical subjects. That means you probably have good reasoning and logical thinking abilities, which in turn makes you quite a good candidate for a more research-oriented job, instead of maintenance, which indeed can get boring after some time.
In fact, people with you experience are very valuable in research teams, as those who use the current technologies routinely have the best knowledge of their shortcomings and pitfalls and can give the most valuable input into improving them - sometimes many times more valuable than people who created them.
Additionally, research gives much more satisfaction - instead of just creating something useful, you create something better and more powerful as well, probably easing the work of all those you worked with before, who still do their daily administration routine.
And be assured, there's no shortage of jobs in the network technology research field - fiber optics, high-speed wireless, large-scale routing, extreme load-resistant and distributed systems, and many more.

My solution was to go freelance (1)

grapeape (137008) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243544)

I ran into the same situation a few years back. I was burned out on what I thought was IT but it ended up that I was burned out with corporate life. I basically dropped out for a couple months, took my savings and started ramping up for a consulting business. My initial intention was to do it long enough to support getting another degree, I'm still doing it now. Consulting is a good route but its hard work. Supporting lots of smaller clients rather than one big one gives you flexabilty in hours and enough variety to keep things interesting. If you are people friendly being able to speak both geek and human will get you an easy foot in the door with little effort. I have found the rewards are way beyond monetary (though the money isnt bad either), and my success or failure is totally in my own hands rather than next weeks decision by the shareholders.

Ditto My vote... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243558)

A few years ago I switched from another career into IT/Network Engineering. My pay was half for much of that time, but my happiness was far greater. And that happiness changed my whole life. So, asap, I will work on rebuilding my nest egg for the next career change. Any woodworkers out there?

I feel the same way - Here's what I did... (2, Insightful)

microTodd (240390) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243564)

I am in a similar situation as you...15 years in the industry and burnt out. I try and try to put myself in the mindset of "just work your 8 hours and collect your paycheck" but I can't. I WANT to have passion and excitement for my work, but just can't seem to find that anymore.

So what can we do about it? :-)

A lot of this depends on your life circumstances. Since you're married with kids the career change can be a scary challenge. However, perhaps you and your wife have an excellent financial position (i.e. low debt) and can afford to scale down your quality-of-life a teeny bit and you can take a pay cut. Or, if you're totally insane you can start your own company. Start a Subway franchise or something.

So here's some of the options as I saw them:

-Complete career change: The problem here is that this is kind of the same solution as "rewrite all the code from scratch". Read this [] to realize why this is a bad idea. You are throwing away *TONS* of sunk costs in experience and education.

-Go back to school (maybe at night) and learn another trade, then transition to that. Safe, but slow. Initially expensive.

-Get a hobby, part-time night job, or something that peaks your interest. I started teaching adult algebra classes at night and I love it! Yes, IT during the day still sucks but teaching at night makes it way more bearable.

-One-off career change...can be difficult but doable. Maybe hire a professional career counselor or resume writer.

The closest I've come to solving this dilemma is getting hobbies and part-time night jobs that scratch my itch. Also, I try to force some of the fun back into my day job. For example, once a week I'll take a few hours and just play with a new language or tool just for fun (although my boss would probably get mad if he found out I was on-the-clock).

Unfortunately, its hard to find a practical solution to career burnout. I believe in a lot of ways this is a spritual problem. i.e. "true happiness is wanting what you have not having what you want", etc. See if you can find satisfaction in your family, in making a salary to feed and care for them, and in focusing on fun stuff outside of work (camping, sports, gaming, arts&crafts, reading, whatever...). Difficult, I know. But be happy that your job is Mon-Fri 9-5 and you're not roofing houses or something REALLY sucky.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

Not leaving until I can start a business (1)

RobertB-DC (622190) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243574)

I've got it pretty good. With only a two-year degree (in computer-aided drafting!), I'm making significantly more than the first Google link for "computer programmer salary" says I should. I've been working for the same company for 12+ years, with management that knows how to handle the business side of things, a team of subject matter experts that handle the customer side, and all we have to do is code. Topping it all off, it's a vertical-market tax software product, so it's not going anywhere until death & taxes are abolished.

Of course, at 41, I'm halfway between "wow I'm grown up now" and "gee I'm old now", so it's high time for a midlife crisis! I'm pretty sure that someday I'll quit and start my own business. Not something in this industry, though. I love my job, but I'd like to do something a bit more directly beneficial to society. Time will tell what happens, but I'm currently thinking about opening a day care center [] , and when it's successful, going into politics (though I'll probably have to take practicality [] over idealism [] if I want to actually get elected). But I've got sense enough to wait until my kids are out of school before making any big changes.

The one thing I do know is that I'll never get to "retire" in any sort of traditional sense. As Fate would have it, I spent 20 years married to someone who didn't understand the value of living within her means... not surprisingly, I got custody of the credit card bills. I'll be working till I die... heck, if things go as planned, I (or at least my remains) will keep working full time even in the hereafter, thanks to Dr. Gunther von Hagens [] !

Burnout (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243578)

Maybe you just burned out. Take a long time off.

Living through it now.. (1)

Tominva1045 (587712) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243580)

After so many years of having your stupid management decisions crap-o-meter go off you eventually reach your limit. What you are going through is normal. Over the last 17 years in software development I've seen technology change and survived many re-organizations in various companies. I started out as a permanent employee (5 years) also became disillusioned, became a consultant and ran a small "C" corp for 8 years, got married, had kids, am currently a perm employee again-- but am still living the dream of creating a killer web services app. Management becomes more about politics and negotiating to get the right tools in place to do the job right. I've lived through several re-orgs where layers of management were wiped out. In many of these cases there were managers that no longer had technical skills who had a hard time finding new management positions because their companies fell behind technology-wise and they did not themselves keep up. But there is risk associated with everything- it just comes down to how good you are at mitigating it by developing good working relationships and keeping up in your field or learning new things. Being en entrepreneur can be an exciting adventure. Doing it on the hardware side might be difficult with the start up costs, however, if you are interested in automation or robotics you might be able to find a market gap as the field is just getting going. Just as big auto and big manufacturing have automated, small and middle manufacturing are ripe for automation. In my case I chose web service applications because software is what I know. Two critical points if you are interested: 1. Read books on entrepreneurship. Not the franchise magazines so much as ones like Think And Grow Rich [] and The Start Up Entrepreneur [] These books teach about becoming motivated, learning how to see market gaps (opportunities), and overcomming obstacles put in front of you. 2. Avoid naysayers and idiots who tell you something cannot be done. When someone offers you free negative advice quietly ask yourself one queston: What has this person done in this field that gives their opinion credibility. Having family responsibliities may force you to be more careful on how you approach undertaking a new business but there is a plus side to not being too much of a Cowboy as well. Good luck in whatever you choose to do.

Chase your passion (3, Insightful)

Unoti (731964) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243582)

1. Chase your passions. Work in a field that you can be passionate about. The best way for you to be happy and successful is to chase your passion. Crazy examples: maybe you want to create new content in Second Life. Maybe you'd be happier teaching troubled teens how to use woodworking tools. Maybe your dream is to be a park ranger. Figure it out.

2. Don't worry about money. Restructure your life so that you can chase your passion. Figure out a way to live with half of your current salary if you have to. Live somewhere that you don't need a car. Hike with your groceries. Use public transportation. Work from home.

3. If you don't know what you're passionate about, hurry up and find out now, before you're dead. You only have one life. Don't waste it as a slave, doing what you don't want to be doing.

Consider this very seriously. Nobody is forcing you to do what you've been doing. Don't be a sheep, take control of your life, because if you don't there's plenty of other people who will.

I'm sitting in the same place (1)

haplo21112 (184264) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243596)

I am facing exactly the same problem currently.

I'm not ready (and neither are my families finances) for what I have always pegged as my retirement career. I am hoping the log jam breaks soon.

At least for me what has lead me here is the one hot project, with it's new tech and all that stuff that had me all excited, got dumped. Its really taken the wind out of my sails. There are other issues as well, but that is really the snowball that started the avalanche.

I am going through this exact same thing (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243600)

What I have chosen to do is get a government job.

I still work on boring technology, but only 40 hours a week, and I don't take it home with me.

So I pretty much focus on other things when I am not at work.

They other great advantage is that if a completely different opportunity opens up, I might be able to laterally move into something more interesting,and and still maintain my benefits.

Disillusioned With IT? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243602)

Yup - it's a job. That's why they pay me (and you) for it. If it were exciting, there'd be X-Games for IT and all sorts of other fun things, but it's not. It's work. It's a job.

Kids today. Phhhhht.

Get a hobby or a sport. Life is to be lived outside the confines of work.

Mike Y.

Some wisdom from Avenue Q (1)

Jupiter Jones (584946) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243604)

Everyone's a little bit unsatisfied
Everyone goes 'round a little empty inside
Take a breath, look around, swallow your pride
For now...

Nothing lasts. Life goes on, full of surprises.
You'll be faced with problems of all shapes and sizes.
You're going to have to make a few compromises
For now...

But only for now.

Don't stress
Let life roll off your backs
Except for death and paying taxes,
Everything in life is only for now.


I know what you mean... (1)

gunnk (463227) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243620)

Woah -- you sound like me.

I feel pretty burned out at times as well (14 years in IT doing most of what you named except for sales and AIX). It pays well, but sometimes it just doesn't excite, right?

There is NO RIGHT ANSWER here.

How important is the money to you and your family? If you are in debt and living paycheck to paycheck then you need to handle that first.

Is work that important to you? Many people I know use work to pay the bills while they pursue their passions outside of work. Do you have passions outside of work that you are exploring?

Is it to much time commitment? Maybe you're working too many hours to have a real life. Just making your personal life a bigger priority might help.

Thought about becoming and entrepreneur? Build your own company? It would definitely be stimulating and probably financially rewarding if you don't mind taking some risks.

I don't know -- I wish I had a GOOD answer for you. Heck, I wish I had a good answer for ME. Nothing abnormal about how you feel. People have been struggling with it ever since 9 to 5 was invented -- and probably before.

Let me also add that you might like "Working Identity: Unconventional Strategies for Reinventing Your Career" by Herminia Ibarra. If you are thinking about a big change, it has some good insights on how big changes occur for people and how best to get started in that direction.

Dude, are you me? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243624)

This is not helpful, but I feel the exact same way. Down to the very last bit.

I got into the IT industry because I loved computers, building things, exploring, hacking... the only thing the IT industry has done for me is caused me to grow to hate computers. Every job I've had has sucked, and working for yourself involves too much "business stuff".

Do what you love for a living, and you'll learn to hate what you love.

Re-schooling seems out of reach (even with a nest egg, gee more debt!). I've been considering trying to find work as a construction worker, the local grocery store, or maybe at starbucks. The pay will be far less, but the government currently takes most of my earnings anyway.

(puts the violin back in the case)

The only thing I can see that can fix it is to rob or steal huge sums of money from starving children, retire, and then work on projects I actually want to work on.

Thanks for posting this I'll read this thread with great interest.

Oh for the creative Art filled life of a Chef (1)

dagrichards (1281436) | more than 6 years ago | (#23243630)

Yes I have been in that exact situation. I spent 12 years working in the restaurant business.
The last few as an Executive Chef running hotel kitchens in the Bay Area. Trust me the very very worst day anyone ever had in any cube farm anywhere (that did not involve a disgruntled individual with a gun), is better by far than most good to so so days in the kitchen. Try washing dishes at 0400 in the morning on New Years day because you have to get the kitchen pout back together from the NYE parties for the breakfast crew... knowing that your next will last 18 hours and you last one was 24. Try regularly going to work on a Thursday morning and not seeing the outside of the hotel until Sunday evening.

Eeew boring and tedius, you poor bastard.
I am sooo glad I work in IT now, this is the worst IT job I have ever had and it is still better than every restaurant job ever.

Word. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243632)

I know exactly what you're talking about. It happened to my father. Early on in life I vowed it would not happen to me, especially as I realized I would follow my father down the IT path. In my late 20s I started actively cultivating a second career on nights and weekends. I really enjoy it, so all of the expenses of time and money have been fun, even if there wasn't the preparing for the 2nd career involved. I've been working for others in this second career, learning the ropes, and now I'm just about ready to go on my own with it. My wife and I have worked hard towards Living Below Our Means: small/modest home, fuel efficient car, staying out of debt, etc. After much back and forth, I put the kibosh on breeding. I know kids are great and all, but I'd rather have my freedom, thanks. The wife was 50/50 on the kids thing any way, so she rolled with it. After we got married, she started getting involved in the second career with me, and she and I will be launching this new venture together. Hopefully it will only be a couple of years as a part-time thing, and we'll be able to get it up to full time. We are budgeting/gearing our lifestyle now (while I still have the IT salary) to keep us in the black even if our income is cut in half. After 5+ years of training/preparation, it's hard to believe we're about to launch - exciting stuff.

Sorry none of this speaks directly to your situation. When you've got kids and you're set at a certain lifestyle/budget and ennyeux sets in? Ick. Tough one, that.

Similar situation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243636)

I was in a similar situation as the one you describe. I went to law school, interested in IP law and thinking I'd be able to combine my software knowledge with law. The trouble is, my experience is still heavily weighted in engineering-related work.

Most likely I'd take a sizable pay cut to switch careers. The uncertainty of the market makes me hesitant to leave something that pays the family bills. I found a great cross-functional position at a small company that let me combine my skills, but small companies get acquired and things change...

My advice is to find something you enjoy that *could* become a career someday and pursue it on the side. If it shows promise, consider switching over to it when you think the pay is something you can live with and can build on.


Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23243644)

Pass on what you know to others and rediscover your love for CS.
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