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Google Sets Sights On 3D Map of the Oceans

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 6 years ago | from the google-vs-marianas-trench dept.

Google 83

Several readers wrote to tell us about one of the next major projects to enter the Google-verse. We already have pretty views of the Earth and the Sky, the next target is apparently a 3D map of the oceans. "The tool — for now called Google Ocean, the sources say, though that name could change — is expected to be similar to other 3D online mapping applications. People will be able to see the underwater topography, called bathymetry; search for particular spots or attractions; and navigate through the digital environment by zooming and panning. (The tool, however, is not to be confused with the 'Google Ocean' project by France-based Magic Instinct Software that uses Google Earth as a visualization tool for marine data.)"

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Why? (3, Funny)

Trent Hawkins (1093109) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256286)

Does this have anything to do with their under water fortress of doom?

Becaue it is more relevant than space (3, Insightful)

EmbeddedJanitor (597831) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256386)

We have better understanding of far away stars etc than we do of our own oceans, yet the oceans are far more important to our existence. Hat's off to Google!

Re:Becaue it is more relevant than space (1)

VeNoM0619 (1058216) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256500)

Agreed, not to mention, we can now hopefully view which cables NOT to cut on our next fishing expeditions.

Re:Becaue it is more relevant than space (2, Funny)

Captain Splendid (673276) | more than 6 years ago | (#23257442)

Hat's off to Google!

<grammar nazi>Who is Hat and why is he going to Google?</grammar nazi>

It's actually correct (1)

EmbeddedJanitor (597831) | more than 6 years ago | (#23258558)

Hat's off to Google == Hat is off to Google == [My] hat is off to Google.

Re:It's actually correct (1)

Captain Splendid (673276) | more than 6 years ago | (#23258608)

Oh, alright, if you say so. Don't skip the pronoun next time, you lazy bastard!

Re:It's actually correct (1)

severoon (536737) | more than 6 years ago | (#23260546)

<super nazi>Actually...hats off is typically intoned as a command, as in, [Take your] hats off to Bob for his wonderful accomplishment!</super nazi>

This expression isn't intended to passively describe a situation, it's intended to encourage action...specifically, figurative recognition, and that makes the use of the possessive apostrophe incorrect. Not that I much care, it's just you guys were talking about it and I couldn't bear to sit by and see misinformation abound.

Re:It's actually correct (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23261470)

Hat's off to Google == Hat is off to Google == [My] hat is off to Google.
Mate, you're just digging a deeper hole for yourself ...

Re:Becaue it is more relevant than space (1)

RockDoctor (15477) | more than 6 years ago | (#23260708)

Hat's off to Google!
<grammar nazi>Who is Hat and why is he going to Google?</grammar nazi>
You don't end being a Grammar Nazi ("</grammar nazi>"), you just learn to bite your tongue.

Or possibly you change your politics, or stop eating the gram flour [wikipedia.org] .

Or you move out of Denmark [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Becaue it is more relevant than space (1)

Ihmhi (1206036) | more than 6 years ago | (#23260756)

I don't know, I don't think an asteroid can rise up from the ocean and slam into the Earth again.

Re:Becaue it is more relevant than space (1)

swimsaturn (1239646) | more than 6 years ago | (#23265942)

Even when it comes to mapping, we have more complete coverage, and better resolution, of the global topography of Mars (thanks to the Mars Orbiter Laser Altimeter) than of Earth.

Re:Becaue it is more relevant than space (1)

Snaller (147050) | more than 6 years ago | (#23273226)

Its also completely boring to most people. Dirty water! Enough already.

Re:Becaue it is more relevant than space (1)

msromike (926441) | more than 6 years ago | (#23284118)

Citation please. Or in lieu please post some links to your work.

Perhaps... (1)

imyy4u2 (1275398) | more than 6 years ago | (#23262542)

But I am more concerned about them pulling into my underwater driveway and photographing my underwater house.

Or...2010, breaking news: Google periscope spotted in homeowner's toilet taking pictures of "uncharted territory."

Re:Why? (1)

genner (694963) | more than 6 years ago | (#23263208)

It's called the happy dome. Everyone knows Google isn't evil.

Google needs to work getting images and map data.. (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256310)

Google needs to work getting images and map data up to date in Earth / maps right now.

Google mantra (1)

everphilski (877346) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256344)

Quantity, not quality

Google needs to update their satellite photos (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256360)

Tell me about it [google.ca] .

I bet one or two photos would update the whole town, too.

Re:Google needs to work getting images and map dat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23256636)

I'm always amazed at Google's ability to hire an insane number of talented engineers and do almost nothing worthwhile with them. Outside of advertising the company has absolutely no direction.

Re:Google needs to work getting images and map dat (1)

Helios1182 (629010) | more than 6 years ago | (#23257376)

Google's business plan: 1. Hire talented people to work on interesting projects 2. Offer free, useful tools to users to get them to your site 3. Show the users advertisements 4. Make a ton of money and still look like a good guy It seems to be working.

Re:Google needs to work getting images and map dat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23256642)

They updated the maps of my neighborhood a couple of weeks ago. I can actually see the trees that were planted a couple of years ago in my yard now.

Re:Google needs to work getting images and map dat (1)

Chosen Reject (842143) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256940)

I'd like to know their update policy. I bought a house over a year ago. At the time Google Maps showed the land as being just a field, even though it had had streets on it for a while. A few months ago they updated the satellite image but only to the time when the roads were being excavated but before they were paved. However, Street View shows my house after I moved in. I can't figure it out.

Quality? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23256374)

I'm guessing they don't want to put a huge budget toward something as trivial as this. In place of a normal map, it'll just be a huge blue square with a few random images of fish. "This is the Atlantic Ocean. Oh look, there's a barracuda."

Easter egg #1 (3, Funny)

StefanJ (88986) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256384)

Cthulhu's watery resting place.

Hmmmm, just think: With Greenland and Antarctica melting, Google Ocean will eventually get bigger as Google Earth shrinks a bit around the edges.

Re:Easter egg #1 (1)

mikael (484) | more than 6 years ago | (#23257218)

Tentacles [youtube.com]

Too much money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23256442)

Now they are just inventing silly things to do. I am convinced that the "break rooms" are crack dens.

Microsoft is kicking Googles ass (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23256448)


when it comes to maps, MS seem to have the cash to purchase better imaging. http://maps.live.com/ [live.com] has a worse interface but the data is so
Google maps was the best (better than MS virtualearth) when it was first released
but now its starting to show its age with its images

Re:Microsoft is kicking Googles ass (2, Interesting)

RiotingPacifist (1228016) | more than 6 years ago | (#23259000)

True its just a shame, that
1) i cant use it on linux
2) its google earth that is linked into otherwebsites

it looks to me like google have the technical know how but like me, once you've sorted out the problem, who can be arsed with the details (e.g pictures). Solution, hire in outsiders to do the booring bits.

another way to waste my time ? (1)

cheap.computer (1036494) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256450)

Why would anyone waste their time navigating a 3D image of the ocean ? ... just curious...

Re:another way to waste my time ? (1)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256494)

Why would anyone waste their time navigating a 3D image of the ocean ? ... just curious...
I would think that the bigger question is how difficult it must be to keep that think updated... you know, with the waves and tides constantly moving and all it would be out of date right after you mapped it!

Re:another way to waste my time ? (1)

myth_of_sisyphus (818378) | more than 6 years ago | (#23260066)

I would like to play Google-sub through the Marianis. Wouldn't you?

Sheesh, what do you do at work?

YUO ?FAIL IT (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23256490)

*BSD is dead. a 3ead man Walking. asshole to others Some intelligent

Cash, Philanthropy, or World Domination (2, Funny)

webword (82711) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256492)

Google continues to crank out new services, products, APIs, tools, and more. It's really quite staggering, but they do have the cash and brains to do it. But the investments they make are huge. I'm talking about money, time and brainpower.

Is latest action to make the entire world's information accessible for cash in some way? Is it some sort of philanthropy? You know, another gift to the world? Or, is there some other plan for world domination?

Speaking of world domination...

Who will be the most angry about all of this?

* Aquaman
* Poseidon
* Neptune
* Little Mermaid
* The Mariner (Kevin Costner, Waterworld)
 

Re:Cash, Philanthropy, or World Domination (1)

Adambomb (118938) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256588)

* Poseidon
* Neptune
Definitely neither of them, they're still too busy bitching over who had the best god of the sea implementation.

Science and Google tools (2, Informative)

Lord Satri (609291) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256732)

Google continues to crank out new services, products, APIs, tools, and more. It's really quite staggering, but they do have the cash and brains to do it. But the investments they make are huge. I'm talking about money, time and brainpower.
Working within the geospatial domain (a blend of GIS, remote sensing, GPS, virtual globes, webmapping and much more) and running a website about it, clearly the "newcomers" (mainly Google, Microsoft and Yahoo) with what has been often called neogeography [wikipedia.org] are making serious inroads in traditional GIS software providers such as ESRI [esri.com] . (rejoice /. users, open source [slashgeo.org] is also making serious inroads there too)

The thing is, neogeography *is* useful and efficient for many tasks. Not everybody needs "a real" powerful GIS to visualize and analyse geodata. That's why I can believe this rumored Google Ocean will be attractive to many oceanography scientists (as well to hobbyists, of course). See this recent article named "Google Earth, GIS, and the Great Divide: A new and simple method for sharing paleontological data [sciencedirect.com] "

Red Route One (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 6 years ago | (#23257270)

Well, in The Hunt for Red October [imdb.com] the Soviet Union had accurate charts and the US Navy didn't. I'd imagine the Soviet Navy might be upset that all the US has to do now is google Red Route One.

Re:Red Route One (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 6 years ago | (#23258030)

Satellite imaging has grown up considerably since then. Also, that was a book. And then a movie. And none of it ever happened.

Re:Red Route One (1)

RiotingPacifist (1228016) | more than 6 years ago | (#23259040)

Or the government's said it never happened.

This is slashdot, not enough paranoia and you get kicked out!

Re:Red Route One (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 6 years ago | (#23262190)

Or the government's said it never happened.

If you had seen the movie that we're lampooning, you would know that the last two lines of the introductory text are ever happened.

Re:Cash, Philanthropy, or World Domination (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23258372)

Who will be the most angry about all of this?

* Aquaman
* Poseidon
* Neptune
* Little Mermaid
* The Mariner (Kevin Costner, Waterworld)
Nessy!

Re:Cash, Philanthropy, or World Domination (1)

VJ42 (860241) | more than 6 years ago | (#23261272)

Who will be the most angry about all of this? * Aquaman * Poseidon * Neptune * Little Mermaid * The Mariner (Kevin Costner, Waterworld)
Cthulhu!

Re:Cash, Philanthropy, or World Domination (1)

fluxindamix (804999) | more than 6 years ago | (#23262716)

but of course, Dirk Pitt, and Admiral Sandecker will be the most upset. Poor Hiram Yaeger will commit suicide...

Re:Cash, Philanthropy, or World Domination (1)

dredwerker (757816) | more than 6 years ago | (#23262964)

Good old Clive will turn up half way through the domination to sort out the plot with some unfeasibly useful technology. Bit like google sea really or is it - nooo I have lost my mind.

Privacy concerns (2, Funny)

erroneus (253617) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256526)

Davy Jones, the ambassador for marine life, is citing privacy concerns and plans to protest this activity.

I say, if they don't have anything to hide, they have nothing to be afraid of.

What (1)

bobwrit (1232148) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256544)

what is there that warrents a map of the ocean other than oil? http://www.programers.co.nr/ [programers.co.nr]

Topographic Survey dATA (2, Funny)

RealErmine (621439) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256558)

Survey Point 1, Sea Level ..... 0 Meters

Survey Point 2, Sea Level ..... 0 Meters

Survey Point 3, Sea Level ..... 0 Meters

Survey Point 4, Sea Level ..... 0 Meters

Survey Point 5, Sea level ..... 0.2 Meters (note: shark)

Re:Topographic Survey dATA (-1, Redundant)

RealErmine (621439) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256578)

sURVEY pOINT 6, sEA lEVEL ..... 0 mETERS (note: damn caps-lock)

Re:Topographic Survey dATA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23256764)

You know, this needs to be said... I am so tired of the bloody "Redundant" moderation being used wrongly. Seriously. It is NOT meant as a synonym for "-1 Stupid". Quit using it that way.

Re:Topographic Survey dATA (1)

RiotingPacifist (1228016) | more than 6 years ago | (#23259054)

You know, this needs to be said... I am so tired of the bloody moderation being used wrongly. Seriously.
Dont forgot to meta moderate ppl

Let's get this out of the way. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23256574)

There is no Atlantis, folks.

What's the use (1)

chord.wav (599850) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256628)

Aside for fun and searching the Titanic and the Atlantis, what's the use of it? I mean, it's not that we will able to find the nearest Starbucks or get directions underwater. Why not use that cash to improve the streets and imagery on the earth part?

Re:What's the use (1)

njcoder (657816) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256736)

Why not use that cash to improve the streets and imagery on the earth part?
Because fish and giant squid can't sue you over privacy concerns.

Re:What's the use (1)

genner (694963) | more than 6 years ago | (#23263240)

Yes but hippies can still protest on their behalf.

All together now! (4, Funny)

Jherek Carnelian (831679) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256670)


We all live in a google submarine
google submarine, google submarine
We all live in a google subarmine
google submarine, google submarine

As we live a life of ease (A life of ease)
Everyone of us (Everyone of us) has all we need (Has all we need)
Sky of blue (Sky of blue) and sea of green (Sea of green)
In our google (In our google) submarine (Submarine, ha, ha)

ARRGGHHH! Mates, there be treasure down there! (1)

rts008 (812749) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256684)

We'll find Davey Jones' Locker yet with this and all be rich! RICH I say!

Or, failing that, we can search for submarines lurking under the waves.

Re:ARRGGHHH! Mates, there be treasure down there! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23256894)

Nessie is in for one hell of a surprise.

Re:ARRGGHHH! Mates, there be treasure down there! (1)

myth_of_sisyphus (818378) | more than 6 years ago | (#23260282)

Especially seeing as how she lives in a LAKE.

Re:ARRGGHHH! Mates, there be treasure down there! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23262236)

Loch.

make that map of the ocean FLOOR (1)

jpellino (202698) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256706)

...otherwise compared to keeping up with the RT 3d ocean surface, slashdotting a data server would be a drop in the ocean. literally.

Let's imagine (1)

redcaboodle (622288) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256710)

Instead of the Google Truck, there'd be a Google submarine taking pictures and some sort of slimy fish would probably sue them for taking pictures of it's backreef.

I'm looking forward to Google Oceans. Sounds interesting.

I wonder what bathymetry they're using. (2, Informative)

MROD (101561) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256812)

Hmm.. I wonder if they'll be using the Smith & Sandwell satellite derived bathymetry or ship-track data....

Anything better than 5 degree per pixel would be scientifically useful.. but I doubt that they'll have very high definition coverage... and I also doubt they'll be filling in the huge holes in the ship-track coverage.

The surface of Mars has been mapped in higher detail than the depths of the ocean and we are still guessing at the numbers of sea-mounts in the Pacific.

Re:I wonder what bathymetry they're using. (1)

MROD (101561) | more than 6 years ago | (#23256890)

Oops! The referred article made most of my points. Oh well. At least the reporter talked to the two main researchers who have generated the best synthesis of data so far.

I Thank you for your time (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23256960)

THERE ARE ONLY whether to repeat one Here but now UniVted States.

Will it show the Trash Vortex? (1)

klek (1237566) | more than 6 years ago | (#23257334)

I hope that they will be able to offer satellite and 3D imagery of the gigantic plastic-trash gyre north of Hawaii. And anyway, aren't there other trash gyres in the oceans? Will they be able to provide real-time ocean vehicle tracking? Science buoys? Locations of marine accidents? The nearest pizza delivery to your port-of-call? Hurricane tracking? Atlantis? . Klek -- .Sig, munde, froid.

Here's what you can do with this: (1)

xx01dk (191137) | more than 6 years ago | (#23257418)

There are many uses for such a service. Here's just a few off the top of my head:

-Under-water cable management

-Shipwreck locator

-Points of interest for study (black smokers, volcanoes, rifts)

-Biologic tracking data (in 3D)

-Current tracking data (in 3D)

-The aforementioned oil industry uses

I'm guessing Google would release a lo-rez free version to the general public and then license a high-rez version to corporations (and government) like it does with Google Earth. I didn't really RTFA--you don't really have to with a title like that--so I apologize if any of this was mentioned there. It just seemed like there were a lot of "What is this good for?" posts. I, for one, am looking forward to such a service.

Cheers~

Re:Here's what you can do with this: (1)

johannesg (664142) | more than 6 years ago | (#23260486)

I can already count the rooftiles on my house using Google Earth. Are you telling me there is a version that is even more high-res?

And you are forgetting one important use: it is *FUN* to look around the worlds' oceans!

Re:Here's what you can do with this: (1)

xx01dk (191137) | more than 6 years ago | (#23260758)

Nope! Like I said, I am eagerly awaiting this product.

it would have uses... (1)

casper75 (44745) | more than 6 years ago | (#23257422)

I don't think it's a waste of money at all- I think it's a great idea. It just doesn't have as much immediate use to the average internet user.

I mean, maybe we can't use this map to get driving directions or whatever, but what if marine biologists create mash-ups that show migration patterns for marine life or something? That would be worthwhile.

Since they have a flight simulator built in (1)

earthforce_1 (454968) | more than 6 years ago | (#23257488)

Will they be adding a submarine simulator?

At this rate (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#23257688)

in just 5 or so years google will start mapping our butts.

Re:At this rate (1)

redcaboodle (622288) | more than 6 years ago | (#23258248)

in just 5 or so years google will start mapping our butts.

If they start driving a photo truck over mine I will sue them. Either that or build a toll booth. Whatever seems more profitable.

yes (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#23258642)

one could make huge money with such a butt that can handle a truck

Re:At this rate (1)

dinodriver (577264) | more than 6 years ago | (#23260380)

And then five years after that they'll finally take gmail out of beta. Four years and counting...

No divers' comments? (1)

dindi (78034) | more than 6 years ago | (#23258106)

Hmm... well while that is interesting (or not) for the masses, I am very excited about that.
As a diver (recreational) I am really curious if this will cover only deep oceans or maybe even close to shore locations. While there are enough dive places in Costa Rica (where I live) to dive every weekend on a different place, you quickly realize that a certain dive shop is usually limited to 10-12 sites tops. That makes you think of hiring the fisherman, getting on the friend's boat with a GPS and starting to do beach dives. Anyway even with a bunch of GPS coordinates in my old Garmin you might just hit empty sand pads, endless depths and other surprises. Besides that, beach dives without a coast guard are a nightmare here. Most beaches are surfing only (meaning DO NOT SWIM THERE OR YOU DIE).

Anyway ... that is why I am really stoked about this and wonder what resolution and what regions will be available.

Any divers with any thoughts on that?
 

Re:No divers' comments? (1)

AgentPaper (968688) | more than 6 years ago | (#23258732)

+1, although I'm a sport fisherwoman with a sometime interest in diving. I'd LOVE to have an accurate, easily accessible map of reefs, shoals, deep holes and other near-shore features, particularly for fishing travel. Most of the same places that interest divers also interest fisherpeople, for a lot of the same reasons - they have easily accessible, unique bottom structure that attracts interesting fish.

Bring on the Google Oceans maps!

Re:No divers' comments? (1)

ElizabethGreene (1185405) | more than 6 years ago | (#23263990)

In the US, NOAA has had fairly good resolution data available for most of the coastline. Unfortunately, it is not in the most "user friendly" format. To say that a different way, I was looking for some possible diving spots* and spent an hour trying to make heads or tails of the search data.

Searchability is Google's strong point, so I expect this will be a vast improvement. Some inland data would be nice, but I can't imaging the two man-made lakes near my house would be indexed any time this century.

-ellie

* Hard contacts in less than 200ft/66M not in a major shipping lane.

Smart projection (1)

rpp3po (641313) | more than 6 years ago | (#23258856)

I'm still amazed sometimes how the google guys map the surface of a more or less flat thing like our world onto a ball. It confused me at first, but then I realized how smart that was. Instead of scrolling from east to west and the whole way back I can just turn the ball across the western border and be instantly there. I have been told that also most pilots also assume our world to be a ball when doing navigation as it supposed to make math easier.

First Thing First (1)

oloron (1092167) | more than 6 years ago | (#23259752)

ok, So don't get Google Ocean confused with "Google Ocean" ... check

I'm interested in the US Navy's response (1)

QuantumFlux (228693) | more than 6 years ago | (#23259764)

AFAIK, high-resolution bathymetry is considered some of the most highly classified data the US Navy has. Many people and organizations over the years have tried to access that data and been told that it is protected due to unspecified national security concerns.

OTOH, the kind of data that is easily available with Google Earth was once the exclusive domain of agencies such as NRO...

Re:I'm interested in the US Navy's response (1)

Don_dumb (927108) | more than 6 years ago | (#23262490)

Well the UK Military is less protective over the information its bathymetry generates. The UK government organisation that does sea mapping is a trading fund of the Ministry of Defence and if you want a submarine map, buy one from them - http://www.hydro.gov.uk/ [hydro.gov.uk]

Can we finish New Zealand (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23260702)

first? Still a bunch of highish then low res patches..

Google Sketchup (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23262106)

Hey, look! I just made a fish in Google Sketchup. It looks just like a two-level house.

-- Marcio
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