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Microsoft's Blue Hat Conference

samzenpus posted more than 6 years ago | from the protect-the-collective dept.

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SecureThroughObscure writes "ZDNet Zero-Day security blogger Nate McFeters got an exclusive look at the Microsoft Blue Hat conference. This is an invite-only conference that few media get to attend, but apparently McFeters was brought in with co-worker Rob Carter to talk about some vulnerabilities they had discovered with a few product security teams in attendence, and was also asked to do a guest blog posting about the conference at the Microsoft Blue Hat blog. McFeters also included several pictures of the conference and after conference events."

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Microsoft + blue... (5, Funny)

ChenLiWay (260829) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331238)

hmm... nope, can't think of a joke.

Re:Microsoft + blue... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23331352)

There's got to be a witty joke in there somewhere about throwing chairs. Just wait, I'm sure it's coming in 3...2...1...

Re:Microsoft + blue... (1)

SecureThroughObscure (1282782) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331434)

Hee hee hee, comeon, you can be more creative than that... I just saw a commercial for Viagra, there's got to be a tie together joke there.

Re:Microsoft + blue... (1)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 6 years ago | (#23343144)

So, I guess that's the secret to getting Vista up and running... for a more pleasurable user experience, I assume?

Re:Microsoft + blue... (3, Funny)

Fluffeh (1273756) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331696)

Replace Blue with Ass :)

Re:Microsoft + blue... (1)

sharkey (16670) | more than 6 years ago | (#23337688)

Ass Screen of Death: Windows and goatse, together at last!

Re:Microsoft + blue... (1)

alcmaeon (684971) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331810)

After Zune, I thought brown was Microsoft's color.

Re:Microsoft + blue... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23332486)

Blue hat of death!

Re:Microsoft + blue... (1)

Chriscypher (409959) | more than 6 years ago | (#23340178)

Why not just select the entire gamut of colors with: "Clown Hat"

But does it run Linux? (1)

notdotcom.com (1021409) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331252)

Happy Now?

But... (3, Funny)

Samah (729132) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331280)

Is this specifically a dig at Red Hat?

Re:But... (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23331320)

I'd say so, given the recent "Source Fource" and "Open Office XML" names... I wonder up to what extent the dreaded copyright law can be applied here. It'd be interesting to find out, but if OpenOffice is really a registered trademark, then OpenOffice.org might be in trouble if they decide to judge against Microsoft on that hypothetical case.

Re:But... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23331578)

It's a take off of the Black Hat security conference, which is a vendor neutral. The terms Black hat and White hat are commonly used to describe the intent of security researchers who are either malicious (Black hat) or ethical (White hat).

Re:But... (1, Funny)

Jacer (574383) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331746)

Why's it got to be about race, dog?

Re:But... (3, Insightful)

Alex Belits (437) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331656)

No, this is purely to create confusion. They always mess with unrelated terms to gain perception of familiarity in users -- meaningless slogan "Digital Nervous System" mimicked DNS acronym, ".NET" imitates a top-level domain, etc.

Re:But... (5, Informative)

Chokolad (35911) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331884)

What users are you talking about? This is conference internal to Microsoft, with speakers invited (mostly) from Black Hat conference. It is limited to full-time employees ("blue badges") hence - BlueHat.

Re:But... (2, Insightful)

CurlyG (8268) | more than 6 years ago | (#23334510)

Wouldn't that be the "Blue Badges" conference ? No? Well where did they get the "Blue Hat" from then?

Re:But... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23335946)

Are you retarded? Read the previous comment again.

Blue badge + black hat = blue hat.

Re:But... (1)

hesaigo999ca (786966) | more than 6 years ago | (#23336264)

Not unless they had to get 3 badges of justice
from quests first before attending...

you are so right .. (1)

rs232 (849320) | more than 6 years ago | (#23337950)

Black.Hat, White.Hat, Red.Hat, Blue.Hat, Open Office, Office.Open, Mind.Share .. or do I mean Brain.Share .... I'm confused .... :) Someone recently asked me to show him the 'Microsoft Internet', he meant 'Interent Explorer' ... aaahhhh !!!

Re:But... (1)

pembo13 (770295) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331524)

Think Source Force, Office Open XML

Re:But... (2, Funny)

Artuir (1226648) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331652)

Hm, suddenly I think of Best Buy's geek squad and shudder. I bet that's where these blue hat guys are being hired from, knowing Microsoft.

Re:But... (1)

tqbf (59350) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331756)

No, it's a riff on (a) Black Hat, the industry's leading vulnerability research conference, (b) Black Hat, the term of art for people who break software, and (c) Blue Badges, the slang internal term for MSFT full-timers.

Re:But... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23332044)

wooosh

Wow (5, Funny)

jflo (1151079) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331322)

This is worst than the third time Janeway took the borg head on by becomming a drone... probable but highly unlikely. One would think that a company that boasts itself in the media as much as Microsoft does for being an open book enterprise, that one of their Vulcans would give them a more logical approach. Think about it...

Funniest Comment Ever (1)

SecureThroughObscure (1282782) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331722)

Maybe I'm a Star Trek geek, but that was hilarious!

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23332072)

Who is Janeway and what is a borg? The only reference that I have is my current place of work where a BORG is a Buying Organisation.
Each BORG has a BORG ID inside our procurment system.

Re:Wow (1)

bobwrit (1232148) | more than 6 years ago | (#23332420)

The borg are human/robot hybrids that are assimilated and have a collective consious.

Re:Wow (3, Funny)

Miseph (979059) | more than 6 years ago | (#23333002)

Much like corporate purchasers, actually.

Re:Wow (1)

jflo (1151079) | more than 6 years ago | (#23348908)

Well the corporate purchasers are actually Ferrangi specialists. Don't forget that. The Vulcans are kept captive in the developement department... lord only knows why they're being held for knowledge, I mean, they're not even being listened to... which brings us back to the Ferrangi. Its a horrible cycle but its really Microsofts problem.

WTH (2, Informative)

bobwrit (1232148) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331544)

An invite-only confrence where they test how well their product does? You'll get skewered data that we all know their going to use to bash Linux and support Windows.

Re:WTH (2, Insightful)

dhavleak (912889) | more than 6 years ago | (#23333534)

An invite-only confrence where they test how well their product does?
No testing happens at Blue Hat. The idea is from MS to have the best from Black Hat speak to it's own people - an idea interchange. It's MS-internal because MS wants its employees to get exposure to this information, and so that MS employees can discuss specifics (with the invitees) that are relevant to them.


You'll get skewered data that we all know their going to use to bash Linux and support Windows
This site does not rely on data (skewed or otherwise) to put MS on the proverbial skewer. For an very recent example, look at the thread earlier today [slashdot.org] (where one journalist theorizes that MS may at some future date put some 'copyright cop' on Zunes, and /.ers were out in the numbers to condemn the evil empire without once stopping to notice that this simply wasn't true! [news.com] )

why not Fartie Hearts Hat ? (0, Redundant)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331576)

Huh ? black hat grey hat white hat, now blue hat ? what about fartie heart hats ? is i.t. world discriminating against people with Hats from other walks of life ? shame on you all ...

Re:why not Fartie Hearts Hat ? (1)

calebt3 (1098475) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331632)

And, as has been pointed out above, Red Hat.

At least they don't clash (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23331698)

The Blue Hats match the blue screens you see.

Re:At least they don't clash (1)

VGPowerlord (621254) | more than 6 years ago | (#23332346)

You lie! Windows NEVER blue screens by default any more...

...

...wait for it...

...

...because XP and newer now automatically restart [rbemrose.com] by default where they used to blue screen.

Re:At least they don't clash (2, Informative)

anomalous cohort (704239) | more than 6 years ago | (#23332644)

However, you can bring back those thrilling days of yesteryear with this screen saver [microsoft.com] .

Re:At least they don't clash (1)

VGPowerlord (621254) | more than 6 years ago | (#23333098)

I already have that one. :)

Besides, all I have to do to is uncheck that box in my last screenshot, then with the latest ATI Catalyst drivers, play a WMV file in Media Player Classic and attempt to fast forward. Instant Blue Screen on my PC!

More Hats? (3, Funny)

PC and Sony Fanboy (1248258) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331814)

Look, I was happy with black hat / white hat. Grey hat was pushing it... what is next, the zebra pimp hat conference?

Zebra pimp hat (5, Funny)

Alex Belits (437) | more than 6 years ago | (#23331908)

That's for marketing people.

Re:Zebra pimp hat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23332140)

But they already have the Blue Hat Conference.

i know what it is (3, Funny)

FudRucker (866063) | more than 6 years ago | (#23332064)

accessories for the bsod...

Wrong title (3, Funny)

Nonillion (266505) | more than 6 years ago | (#23332184)

Microsoft's Blue Screen of Death Hat Conference

There, fixed it for you...

Re:Wrong title (1)

SecureThroughObscure (1282782) | more than 6 years ago | (#23332264)

Ahahahhahaa Man, you guys are extra hilarious tonight.

Mod parent up - Undo 'Troll' (1)

stemcel (1074448) | more than 6 years ago | (#23334114)

Troll!? What? It's funny.

Out of all the stretches for a joke I've seen in this thread this comment was the best so far. There's a well-known association between Microsoft and the dreaded BSOD, especially in Slashdot context. Seems like a fair pun to me.

I think you're confusing 'uncomplimentary' with 'Troll'.

Blue Hat? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23332246)

Hmm .. now I wonder why they call it Blue Hat .. oh right the original one is called Black Hat and they had to make this one something different from black. I guess Blue is for the BSOD.

Re:Blue Hat? (1)

Molesworth (61883) | more than 6 years ago | (#23334194)

Blue is a reference to the blue ID badges that Microsoft employees have.

But why would MS... (1)

zullnero (833754) | more than 6 years ago | (#23332494)

Hold a conference for only its security people? I mean, it sure looks like employees outnumber the actual guests there, and I suspect the guests are Microsoft contractors or employees of Microsoft Gold Partners that were forced to go by their boss. People actually WANT to attend Black Hat.

Re:But why would MS... (1)

Chokolad (35911) | more than 6 years ago | (#23333516)

> I mean, it sure looks like employees outnumber the actual guests there, and I suspect the guests are Microsoft contractors or employees of Microsoft Gold Partners that were forced to go by their boss.

There are no "actual guests" here. It is strictly MS full-time employee only. Nobody forces anyone to attend.

Not much of a Mac fan but... (1)

GReaToaK_2000 (217386) | more than 6 years ago | (#23333900)

I loved the photo of the mac laptop sitting on the Microsoft podium.

Why he was invited (3, Informative)

Molesworth (61883) | more than 6 years ago | (#23334112)

The summary says "McFeters was brought in with co-worker Rob Carter to talk about some vulnerabilities they had discovered with a few product security teams in attendence" - that makes it sounds like Nate and Rob found vulnerabilities in Microsoft products. If you actually read the guest blog entry, it says:
"Microsoft had Rob Carter [...] and I come in to discuss some recent vulnerabilities that we've discovered with a few third-party vendors with whom Microsoft has tight relationships"

Probably this is referring to Adobe - Nate and Rob have previously reported [blogspot.com] vulns to them and had them patched.

I felt... (3, Funny)

Cow Jones (615566) | more than 6 years ago | (#23334370)

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if a conference of blue-hats suddenly cried out:

"I put on my robe and wizard hat..."

jk lol (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23334588)

if they wear blue badges why dont they call it the blue badge meeting instead of taking the red away from (redhat) hat and named it bluehat. i saw a couple of mac book in one of those pictures

Is it just me... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23334856)

or is that photo gallery some sort of hoax? Has anyone seen a duller set of pictures? Even the writer of the titles for them got bored & cleared off.

BTW, what's the record time for posting as anonymous coward? I'm only a couple of years in & wonder if I hold out for 5 I might feel I deserve a prize. Cakes all round in 2011.

Blue hats (3, Funny)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 6 years ago | (#23335082)

For some reason I was hoping this was about some Smurf fetish gathering.

Re:Blue hats (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23338962)

Nah, smurfs are blue critters that wear white hats.

Is the keynote going to be.... (2, Funny)

lokpest (1136949) | more than 6 years ago | (#23335312)

Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers.

In my eyes blue hat == Fedora (2, Funny)

Bazer (760541) | more than 6 years ago | (#23335324)

My first impression of the headline was: "Why the hell would Microsoft do a Fedora conference?"

cepayne (1)

cepayne (998850) | more than 6 years ago | (#23336328)

15 people in a carpeted room doesn't really constitute a conference.

Looks cheap and cheezy ;-) with the obligitory projector, and booze.

What can that small number of people actually accomplish for
and OS that has hundreds of millions of installations around
the world.

Appears to be just an excuse for a hand selected crew to get
drunk, and then post blurry photos of their quieter moments.

Was there any "chair throwing" going on?

Spot the Macs (1)

ConfrontationalGrayh (1199233) | more than 6 years ago | (#23336626)

Why is it that every time I look through pictures for a Microsoft event, I can find a picture of someone toting a Mac?

my irony chip has just blown .. (1)

rs232 (849320) | more than 6 years ago | (#23337782)

"Alex .. discussed the need for more transparency from vendors on the standards that the browsers depend upon"

Well, doh .. we all know the reason for that and keeping the conference closed is hardly the way to go about being transparency.

"Billy and Nitesh .. discovered that phishing was just one means of supply to fill the demand for identities in the identity theft ecosystem""

Make an email transport system that don't suffer from phishing and identity theft attacks."

"Manuel Caballero discussed .. cross-site scripting attack [technet.com] frameworks"

Make a Web server/browser that don't suffer from 'cross-site scripting attacks'

Just love the white on black text and 'courier wew' type font .. :)

-------

Coming soon, Paris Hilton hosts a conference on the dangers of premarital sex ..

The guys to the left (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23338878)

Wonder if they getting an invetation next year.

http://content.zdnet.com/2347-12691_22-200400-200403.html?seq=3

"blue hat" what a bunch of CHUMPS (1)

justdrew (706141) | more than 6 years ago | (#23341412)

unbelievable crap from the assholes in redmond

SecureThroughObscure == Nate (1)

sallgeud (12337) | more than 6 years ago | (#23349882)

I get the impression based upon all the stories posted by SecureThroughObscure that it is either Nate or someone pimping Nate strongly...
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