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Earthquake In China

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the twist-and-shout dept.

Earth 595

Several readers sent in links on the earthquake that hit 10 hours ago near the Sichuan city of Chengdu in China. The Telegraph focuses on the citizen journalism that got word on the quake out on the Net instantly (the first report was via Twitter). Science magazine speculates that deaths from this event could exceed the 240,000 killed in the Tangshan quake in 1976, though the estimated death toll is below 10,000 at this writing. Hundreds of videos are up on YouTube, including this footage from a security camera — keep your eye on the goldfish.

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that's actually really terrible (-1, Flamebait)

Sylos (1073710) | more than 6 years ago | (#23387936)

and it looks like china is finally cracking from all that political angst!

Re:that's actually really terrible (1, Insightful)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388162)



Don't you have a heart ? Are you still a human being ?

People are dying and you are still mouthing your political garbage.

Enough !!!!

Heart ? (-1, Troll)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388206)

did chinese have a heart when beating down tibet protesters just 2-3 weeks ago, and locking them in to prisons for life ?

Re:Heart ? (-1, Troll)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388254)

"did chinese have a heart when beating down tibet protesters just 2-3 weeks ago, and locking them in to prisons for life ?"

So, you wanna play this motherfucking game?

Wanna tell us about how much "heart" the whites have when they kill the Indians in America?

Assholes are always assholes !!!!

Re:Heart ? (-1, Offtopic)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388288)

but first,

you wanna tell me how much "heart" had indians when they were killing and eating each other ? how much heart aztecs had while they were maintaining around 3000 war prisoners on average and sacrificing (and eating the hearts of) 1000 of them at their big religious holidays ? how much heart did incas have when they were engaging in ritual slaughter of slaves and captives even before aztecs ?

you wanna play this fucking game ?

Re:Heart ? (2, Insightful)

willyhill (965620) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388366)

This guy is all over this article. Check his posting history, he's one of those Chinese nationalist fanboys [slashdot.org] that like to deny the Tibet thing and so on. Very obvious.

Re:Heart ? (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388394)

thanks for the heads up, ill take him to my foe list so i wont misjudge.

Re:Heart ? (5, Insightful)

StrategicIrony (1183007) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388372)

Hey, guess what.

We just discovered that humans tend toward violence and oppression.

Wow.

Maybe someone should write about this.

Then we can study it.... maybe we could call it....

history.

And then we might learn from it.

But that would be too much work.

sigh.

allrigh (2, Insightful)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388406)

and the point here is ?

what happened ? (-1, Offtopic)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388396)

you were to play the 'motherfucking' game with me ? did the indian history example stupefied you on your tracks ?

Re:that's actually really terrible (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388382)

1. Post about people being heartless
2. Post about people being heartless
3. Post about people being heartless
4. OMFG WE GET IT ALREADY. IF YOU ARE SERIOUS STOP KARMA WHORING AND START POSTING ANONYMOUSLY.

report is 850 dead and injured (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388176)

850, that's about as many that died in chinese prisons on the same day

Free TIBET !!

Free TIBET !!

Free BEER !!

Re:report is 850 dead and injured (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388266)

850, that's about as many that died in chinese prisons on the same day
Or a fraction of the number that are aborted / allowed to die in "oprhanages" as a result of the one child policy.

Re:report is 850 dead and injured (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388410)

Free TIBET !!

I'll take it!
Hey China, i think i have something you might want...

Twitter? (2, Interesting)

crazybit (918023) | more than 6 years ago | (#23387938)

aren't there any seismographs connected to the internet in china?

that should have been faster than a human posting on twitter.

Re:Twitter? (3, Informative)

terremoto (679350) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388026)

>aren't there any seismographs connected to the internet in china?
>that should have been faster than a human posting on twitter.

How about less than a minute? Compare the event and solution times on this page.

http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/eq_depot/2008/eq_080512_ryan/neic_ryan_cmt.html [usgs.gov]

Re:Twitter? (4, Interesting)

kcelery (410487) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388100)

Re:Twitter? (3, Informative)

kcelery (410487) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388130)

Re:Twitter? (5, Funny)

ComaVN (325750) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388374)

Sorry, but I just had to laugh at that translation:

a large toad movement: hundreds of thousands of toads mighty size of a pharmaceutical factory in the vicinity of walking on the road, many vehicles were crushed


Hundreds of thousands of toads the size of factories crushing vehicles? That makes the earthquake seem like a minor inconvenience...

Re:Twitter? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388400)

While the reporting is on a tragic event, the engrish translation really made me laugh out loud.

Re:Twitter? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388228)

what have Quest software or Oracle databases to do with Quake?

This is the future (5, Interesting)

Robert1 (513674) | more than 6 years ago | (#23387942)

The instant an event happens anywhere in the world you have hundreds of cameras on it. This is a very, very good thing. Reporters and ground crews are no longer necessary to capture footage, you can get it de novo, unfiltered, unbiased. Of course, this only happens in a sufficiency advanced nation that has ubiquitous means of recording and means of transmission.

Which is interesting because I could swear China had a Youtube block to prevent such uncontrolled proliferation of footage.

Re:This is the future (5, Insightful)

mrbluze (1034940) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388154)

Which is interesting because I could swear China had a Youtube block to prevent such uncontrolled proliferation of footage.
Well if you try to build a rabbit proof fence, you'll just end up with clever rabbits.

Re:This is the future (1, Insightful)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388180)



"Which is interesting because I could swear China had a Youtube block to prevent such uncontrolled proliferation of footage."

ENOUGH OF THE POLITICAL GARBAGE !!!

People are suffering and all you guys can think of is "youtube block", "human rights", and so on.

C'mon, guys, people are dying there and please, have a heart, wilya ??

Re:This is the future (3, Insightful)

Chandon Seldon (43083) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388328)

C'mon, guys, people are dying there and please, have a heart, wilya ??

People dying somehow make human rights stop being an issue?

If that's what you think, you're absolutely wrong. Human rights don't stop mattering because people die. They don't stop mattering if an earthquake hits. Or for a terrorist attack. Or even in an active war zone.

In this case, the news is good - China's notoriously problematic censorship system hasn't noticeably hurt people's ability to communicate vital information during a natural disaster. For many people, that means that China is measurably less repressive than they had feared. This fact is a perfectly valid topic for discussion in this thread.

Re:This is the future (1)

the_other_chewey (1119125) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388332)

People are suffering and all you guys can think of is "youtube block", "human rights", and so on.
C'mon, guys, people are dying there and please, have a heart, wilya ??


You mean as opposed to those heartless, brutal human rights activists?
Just because people are talking about various (un)related issues doesn't mean they don't care, you know.
And this was far from being unrelated.

Re:This is the future (3, Insightful)

UltraAyla (828879) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388338)

The fact that people are are and have died because of this earthquake does not make the means of transmission of the information less relevant. Robert1 was not heartless in anything he said, nor did he say anything inflammatory. His language, IMO, was relatively neutral.

I will say something potentially inflammatory though. The fact that there is an earthquake does not change the fact that this country violates human rights every day. To not discuss topical/relevant violations would be stupid. Hurricane Katrina did not mean that we should stop discussing the war in Iraq, did it? I realize there is a difference of scale, but I think the point stands.

The fact is, it is impressive that this much information on this quake is available in such a short time. I believe that was the point that your parent was making.

Re:This is the future (1)

maglor_83 (856254) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388376)

People are dying every day. Do you mourn all them too? Not to mention that he didn't even say anything insensitive in the first place.

this took ages to make headlines (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23387944)

Ive been look on various sites, trying to see how many sources had it.
But apparently 'Brittany may visit mother' is bigger news.

Re:this took ages to make headlines (1)

RiotingPacifist (1228016) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388148)

Im fairly sure this was all over the news, covered on BBC radio & tv, hell even Wikinews had this covered by 8:00am GMT (midnight PST) yesterday morning.

Re:this took ages to make headlines (1)

ockegheim (808089) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388244)

For the people who were only shaken up, they probably get earthquakes all the time, so it wouldn't be news. The people "on the ground" would have been busy saving people. It takes a while for a big event to filter through, for the news publishers to know it's worth publishing about.

News for Nerds? (2, Funny)

Awptimus Prime (695459) | more than 6 years ago | (#23387952)

Has /. just become a general news site? What's this got to do with flailing on Microsoft or promoting Linux?

Re:News for Nerds? (4, Insightful)

Prien715 (251944) | more than 6 years ago | (#23387962)

You remember "the stuff that matters" part?

Seriously.

Re:News for Nerds? (3, Insightful)

enoz (1181117) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388114)

Is it stuff that matters because it is a large scale disaster, or because someone upped some footage onto the internet?

I think it must be the internet angle, otherwise there should be a /. story about the Myanmar [google.com] Cyclone [wikipedia.org] ?

it is a stuff that matters (4, Insightful)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388222)

because it is a disaster that has been instantly covered visually by new generation gadgetry and posted up to net. behind a repressive regime that censors everything, to boot.

Re:News for Nerds? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388364)

Speaking of stuff that matters,,,,

Know little myself about earthquakes but am hoping to hear from some that visit here that do, on the matter of whether or not the involved faults and inland location on this earthquake are similar enough to those in the inland areas of the US to help predict what might happen if there is a repeat of what happened in southeastern Missouri in December of 1811 when the area was much lower population then it is now. That earthquake, and some that followed it, were estimated in the 7.8 - 8.0 range and like this quake in China was felt over a huge geographical area, the Missouri quake was felt in Georgia and as far away as Quebec, Canada. It is said to have caused the church bells in Boston to ring, sidewalks to have cracked in Washing D.C., wiped out the town closest to its epicenter, created new lakes, caused much land to drop down several feet in elevation and the Mississippi river to run backwards for three days.

Also wonder what conditions at what magnitude that there might be a "tsunami of land". The ocean can carry away energies produced by earthquakes near or under them and in some ways act as a buffer of sorts, but what happens when the only buffer is land?

There is much here that should be of interest to many kinds of nerds whether geologists, physicists, doctors, lawyers, computer nerds, etc etc etc. There might even be some Brits reading here that know one or more of the twenty of their missing countrymen over there. Have a heart folks, this needs to be studied, they need assistance over there and we may one day need assistance here in a similar fashion.

Re:News for Nerds? (5, Funny)

snotclot (836055) | more than 6 years ago | (#23387994)

I think they just wanted an excuse to use the Quake game icon...

Re:News for Nerds? (4, Funny)

William Robinson (875390) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388076)

:-D

You know, it made me smile more, when I saw "Compare prices on Quake" in the related links.

Re:News for Nerds? (3, Interesting)

Revenger75 (1246176) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388036)

They had to find a semi-worthwhile story to put up because they were running out of advertisements like the one here [slashdot.org] and this one [slashdot.org] . Interesting how this disaster gets a slashdot article, but the cyclone in Burma didn't, unless I missed something.

Re:News for Nerds? (1)

Revenger75 (1246176) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388232)

Don't mind me. Finals start tomorrow and my pocket protector is in a knot.

Re:News for Nerds? (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388074)

Well, it could be up because Intel has a plant over there. Friend of mine who works in Fab design said the Intel plant is fine, nothing wrong.

Or it could be part of the "news for nerds" and "stuff that matters", like the WTC attack being on /.

Re:News for Nerds? (1)

houghi (78078) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388090)

This is soooo obvious geek related. Fish? Camera? Fishcam? Netscape!

Re:News for Nerds? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388370)

If it's a general news website, it's a very slow one. On the intertubes, this is old, old news now.

Re:News for Nerds? (1)

renegadesx (977007) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388408)

Don't know but I saw "Twitter" there somewhere

A tragedy... (4, Funny)

iamdrscience (541136) | more than 6 years ago | (#23387956)

I shudder to think how many lives could have been saved if only they had spent less time on chinese fire drills and more time on chinese earthquake drills.

Re:A tragedy... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388054)

Tell me about it.

Not only that, with all the cigarettes they smoke over there, you'd think they wouldn't get the shakes so bad.

Part of the problem has to be that a large part of their economy is built on triads, which aren't the most stable of structures.

Re:A tragedy... (-1, Redundant)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388202)



"Tell me about it.

Not only that, with all the cigarettes they smoke over there, you'd think they wouldn't get the shakes so bad.

Part of the problem has to be that a large part of their economy is built on triads, which aren't the most stable of structures."


What type of SHIT is that ?????

People are dying and you are talking cock ???

Just what type of motherfucker are you ?????

Please pardon my french, but I just can't stand assholes talking nonsense when people are suffering.

Re:A tragedy... (0, Troll)

KGIII (973947) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388276)

Dude... Chill.. We have enough people on the planet. If a few die then think of it as mother nature shedding some skin cells like when you wash your hands. It is okay for you to be sorry and unhappy but to be so aggressive in your desire to make other people feel as you do is just not going to cut it.

Re:A tragedy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388314)

Did you just equate skin cells with people's lives? Do you get some sort of satisfaction in being an internet tough guy and casually brushing off the fact that thousands of people died? Go to hell.

Re:A tragedy... (1)

KGIII (973947) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388354)

I did. I do. I stand by what I said. I do so without cowering behind AC. Yes, yes I did. Frankly, honestly, we have too many people on the planet in my opinion and failure to be good to our host (Earth) is really starting to result in some huge catastrophic events. When people die in those natural causes I view them as, well, natural causes and while I feel the losses of their families and understand that people are going to be scarred by this I also see it as a natural progression. My point, in it's entirety, is that he (and you) can feel as ever you want but I know that, without a doubt, it is okay for me to have my feelings. To insult another's view is just debasing oneself which you surely just did and I congratulate you now go die in an earthquake...

Re:A tragedy... (1)

msuarezalvarez (667058) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388292)

You do not read the news much, do you?, if you think that now people are suffering and now feel the need to start making these dumb remarks.

Re:A tragedy... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388302)

I get where you're coming from, I really do. And I have great sympathy for the people who are suffering due to this earthquake, and the recent cyclone. No joke.

But seriously, making cracks about something you have absolutely no control over in any which way is not that uncommon a thing to do. And what else is there to say? Variations on 'I hope things go OK for them'? A link to the ICRC? Really, there isn't much to say on the topic.

A teacher of mine once pointed out that people - almost to a man - would mourn the loss of a finger more than they would mourn a disaster such as that which we're talking about. It's sad, but true - we simply care more about things we're attached to in some way (no pun intended, but I'll let it through anyway).

I, personally, have no family, friends or acquaintances in the quake zone. I have no particularly strong group identification with the people affected. This disaster, this tragedy, is in a real way foreign to me.

So yes, you are absolutely correct that my jokes were tasteless. But, in the final equation, a bit of detached wit in the face of a disaster on the other side of the world doesn't put me much lower on the moral totam pole than you; it isn't, in my not so humble opinion, very much worse of a reaction than your fiery brand of moralizing.

Re:A tragedy... (3, Insightful)

Scaba (183684) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388346)

Ummm, strangers die everyday. People have been suffering for as long as there have been people, and will continue to suffer long into the future. Get over it. Your feigned outrage isn't going to save anyone, or help avoid any tragedies.

Slashdot-proof? (4, Interesting)

Raineer (1002750) | more than 6 years ago | (#23387978)

I don't know if it's possible for the youtube link to get /.'ed but the shaking starts almost 5 minutes into the video and lasts for about 90 seconds. I have never been in an earthquake and certainly not sure how I'd feel about one that lasted so long.

Re:Slashdot-proof? (5, Interesting)

Dreadneck (982170) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388124)

I was in the Loma Prieta earthquake that happened during the World Series back in 1989. I was stationed at the Presidio of Monterey and standing on the 2nd floor balcony of my barracks smoking a cigarette when it happened. It was the first and hopefully last earthquake I'll ever experience. It was a frightening and unnerving experience that seemed to last forever. The earthquake in China was almost 10 times more powerful and lasted 6 times longer than the one I went through - it must have been terrifying.

Re:Slashdot-proof? (4, Interesting)

joggle (594025) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388426)

I was a kid watching that game on TV. I remember seeing things begin to shake, then the signal was lost, then it came back for a bit and then I think there was a minute or more of no signal (just a screen saying they were having technical problems). And then they canceled the game so I was bummed out.

Then the next day I found out how bad the earthquake had been and was sorry for the people living there and the victims but also glad I lived in an area that experienced no earthquakes.

I recently went to Japan and experienced a couple of small earthquakes at night. I slept through the first one but the second one felt like somebody was trying to wake me by shaking me. I literally said out loud "I'm up already" before I realized nobody was shaking me and it was just an earthquake. It was so small that it didn't scare me though, although it was a bit unnerving (it was the first earthquake I ever experienced).

Don't worry: the fish survived (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23387984)

In fact, nothing even fell over. This one [youtube.com] at least has stuff falling about, and a clipped British voice giving hard facts.

Re:Don't worry: the fish survived (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388186)

You just failed to deliver after a *perfect* setup for a rickroll.

The purpose of slashdot (5, Insightful)

crazybit (918023) | more than 6 years ago | (#23387986)

is covering how technology and internet is changing the way we used to face those tragedies.

the faster the world knows about it, the faster help can be sent for the victims.

Re:The purpose of slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23387998)

Screw helping the victims. Imagine the next wave of reality tv "Natural disasters in action! Who will survive!".

Re:The purpose of slashdot (3, Informative)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388014)

The government must be amenable to accepting help.

Sometimes the ruling junta isn't interested in help [smh.com.au]

Re:The purpose of slashdot (1)

mrbluze (1034940) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388234)

the faster the world knows about it, the faster help can be sent for the victims.
Rather, the faster everyone can just sit there and talk about it.

Re:The purpose of slashdot (3, Informative)

willyhill (965620) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388342)

Except that "from the twist-and-shout dept" thing is rather tasteless.

"from the twist-and-shout dept."? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23387996)

Seems rather tasteless.

The real tragedy of the earthquake... (3, Insightful)

Bin_jammin (684517) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388000)

is that video. Here's a hint, it's called edit out the boring parts, or make note of where the action starts. Cliffs notes on the video are 4:40 or so of nothing happening, 40 seconds or so of people running out of a building, and the last minute and change of a goldfish bowl being sloshed. I can honestly say that if that video were the only exposure I had to a major event like that I'd have to wonder what all the fuss was about.

Re:The real tragedy of the earthquake... (1)

magicchex (898936) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388108)

Agreed. That video was terrible and terribly boring.

Re:The real tragedy of the earthquake... (4, Funny)

MrNaz (730548) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388164)

The initial 4:40 is to give you time to find your bottle of Ritalin.

Re:The real tragedy of the earthquake... (2, Interesting)

trawg (308495) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388172)

Also, why the hell is this filed under Quake (the game) stories?

Re:The real tragedy of the earthquake... (1)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388322)

I dunno, the girl certainly wasn't bad looking, although the angle kind of sucked.

Re:The real tragedy of the earthquake... (3, Insightful)

zoogies (879569) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388390)

Ah, I see that the mods have become quite tasteless.

The real tragedy of this world is that you can make such an insensitive comment and be modded +5 insightful.

Yeah, the video doesn't have much in it. I know how much y'all wanted to see buildings cave and people die. I mean, whoever got a hold of that video, what WERE they thinking, not editing it? It's almost like they had something more pressing at hand; oh wait.

from the twist-and-shout dept. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388008)

stay classy, /.

With the goldfish video (0, Flamebait)

gQuigs (913879) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388010)

skip to 4:30. Watching people work is so very very very boring.

Re:With the goldfish video (1)

Vectronic (1221470) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388056)

Work?... except for what appears to be one customer (?) just before the quake, none of them are working... she's busy cleaning her ears with a napkin, two guys are just blankly staring out the front windows... the manager (or similar I would assume) is just trying to look like his job has a purpose...

Olympics ! (1)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388024)



If a quake gonna rocks, it gonna rocks.

It is unfortunate for those who perished in this quake, but on the other hand, it is also "lucky" that the quake rocks now.

Imagine what would happened if it rocks during the Olympics?

Imagine stadium collapsing, spectators and athletes buried under the rubbles, a global sport event turns into a global nightmare ...

Imagine that ...

My prayers for those who lost their lives and are injured, or have lost their properties in this quake.

Extended cut (1, Funny)

peipas (809350) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388038)

My god, watching that clip makes me feel like I'm waiting for the girls to show up in a gangbang video.

um not to sound like a dick (-1, Flamebait)

arbiter1 (1204146) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388044)

Isn't this Mother nature's way of Population Control?

Re:um not to sound like a dick (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388084)

Sorry, you fail at not sounding like a dick. In fact, you sound like a small-minded boot-licking xenophobic turd, to tell the truth.

Re:um not to sound like a dick (2, Funny)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388088)

This is the Planet's way to relieve stress after a bad geological day.

"Mother Nature" has nothing to do with plate tectonics. She is involved in things like Ebola and homosexuality in Orca pods.

Re:um not to sound like a dick (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388134)

I have to agree 100% with this comment.

The Chinese have almost 1/3 of the world's population. This is for sure nature's attempt to control population in asia. I wouldn't be surprised and really wouldn't mind if that number reaches a few more 0's at the end (atleast 2 or 3 more 0'

Re:um not to sound like a dick (1, Insightful)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388240)



The Chinese have almost 1/3 of the world's population. This is for sure nature's attempt to control population in asia. I wouldn't be surprised and really wouldn't mind if that number reaches a few more 0's at the end (atleast 2 or 3 more 0'

Just what type of motherfuckers do we have in /. ???

People are dying and they are saying shits like that.

C'mon !!!

How would you feel if your family got hit by an accident and people standing around and say ... it's just a way of population control.

Please think before you speak, motherfucking assholes !!!!!

Re:um not to sound like a dick (0, Troll)

arbiter1 (1204146) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388360)

well, if you consider how much china has tried to under mind other country's over last 1-2 years. counterfeit cisco hardware putting lead in to toy's on purpose for export attempted to hack gov computers of other country (and gettin busted for it)

Re:um not to sound like a dick (1)

zoogies (879569) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388418)

Taco Cowboy, I know you're getting a lot of negative responses, but I agree with you and appreciate that *someone* has some sense on their head around here.

Unfortunately, for most, it's all fun and games until it's their family and friends involved.

And some people will do anything in the hopes of getting modded 'funny.' Pathetic, really...

Re:um not to sound like a dick (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388442)

Here's a noodle-scratcher for you: When a friend's close relative dies, do you behave somberly all the time or just around your friend? Do you weep more when a close relative dies, or when a distant relative dies? Put simply, do you react to all human death in the same way or does the intensity of your reaction depend on the strength of the bond you shared with the deceased? Be honest, and get off your moral high-ground.

Re:um not to sound like a dick (2, Funny)

enoz (1181117) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388150)

Some people think it is the second coming [youtube.com] , and apparently Ron Paul is Jesus 2.0 ...

oh mi gowa (0, Redundant)

IrritableBeing (1281212) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388072)

Godzilla!

Re:oh mi gowa (1)

Datamonstar (845886) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388120)

That's Japan, you insensitive clod.

hello (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388098)

I have nothing to contribute. Just saying hi. Good night.

P.S. kdawson, people say you've been a bit of a troll lately, and from what I've seen, I agree. But I applaud your use of the "Quake" subject icon: probably the only thing in this thread that will be funny without also being cruel. Good on ya.

Re:hello (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388152)

Never mind. Just saw the "twist-n-shout" thing after some comments pointed it out. So: still a tool after all, and I'm giving credit for the Quake icon to the story submitters.

Everything's going to shit... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23388106)

someone fix the world please, thx.

Awful, awful, awful (4, Insightful)

Infonaut (96956) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388166)

I always have a tough time getting my mind around the numbers bandied about in these human tragedies, but just imagine if 5,000 people died in the United States from something like this.

The 1989 quake that hit Northern California caused a lot of economic damage and freaked the hell out of people. It took years for the areas hit to fully recover from it. That incident killed 67 people.

I really do hope that the numbers turn out to be lower than expected. Major suckage.

Re:Awful, awful, awful (1)

Splab (574204) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388362)

The numbers coming out are pretty accurate. Last news broadcast said around 20.000 - both from officials and outside estimates.

Re:Awful, awful, awful (2, Insightful)

zoogies (879569) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388428)

The most heart-tugging line from an article I've read on this is that of a man and woman walking away from rubble, the man sheltering the woman as she cries, "My child is dead! dead!"

Unfortunately, earthquakes cannot be prevented. I hope that in the future these areas - particularly ones so prone to earthquakes in the first place - are able to respond better.

Read the article before you say it's not Slashy! (1)

Fluffeh (1273756) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388190)

Look, while I am happy to argue when a crappy story is posted here, but isn't a story about the earthquake in China, that's old news (sorta kinda internet time dilation sort of thing), this story is about the fact that the initial articles ABOUT this came via the likes of Twitter rather than Foxnews.

Geez guys, put an extra loop of tape around the glasses where they got broken, chill out a little, and enjoy Slashdot for what it is! (That includes the articles)

LIES!!! (1)

CodeMonkey22 (861014) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388230)

"Science magazine speculates that deaths from this event could exceed the 240,000 killed in the Tangshan quake in 1976, though the estimated death toll is below 10,000 at this writing"

ACTUALLY... nowhere in the articles at Science Magazine does it say they think it could exceed 240,000 deaths.

It says 10,000 so far. Period.

Talk about FUD!

Re:LIES!!! (1)

zoogies (879569) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388436)

OOOOKAYYY...let's see here.

First: wow, only 10,000. -roll- what an obviously insubstantial number.

Second:

http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2008/512/1 [sciencemag.org]

By Richard A. Kerr
ScienceNOW Daily News
12 May 2008
Researchers fear that the magnitude-7.9 earthquake that struck near the major city of Chengdu today will easily be China's biggest killer since 1976's Tangshan quake, conservatively estimated to have taken 250,000 lives. "I would think there's going to be horrific loss of life in this one," says seismologist Lucile Jones of the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) office in Pasadena, California. The all-too-familiar combination of millions of people living by a major fault rupture in quake-vulnerable structures makes for an inevitably bad outcome, she says.


One of us is missing something here. That's the same link posted to in the story, yes?

Talk about RTFA?

Well, look at it this way... (-1, Troll)

sethstorm (512897) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388272)

That's [n] less goldfarmers, [n] less people to take your job, and [n] less people who are indoctrinated.

Morbid, yes. In bad taste, perhaps. But that's how they are with their own people, and that is the respect they deserve. They've only revealed what they really are - a nation still in development wrt human rights and product quality.

Consider it a part of karmic justice on that nation, even if it did happen in Tibet.

Re:Well, look at it this way... (2, Insightful)

zoogies (879569) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388448)

Looks like *someone*'s been indoctrinated, and I'll give you a hint, he's a heartless loser...

Death toll (1)

willyhill (965620) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388324)

I remember the reports of "a few hundred" fatalities when the story about the tsunami of 2005 broke. I think this is going to get worse before it gets better.

Fortunately the Chinese government seems to be forthcoming as to what's happening over there, in contrast to past disasters. And I wonder what this will do to the olympics?

Many aftershocks (5, Informative)

jonfr (888673) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388430)

As an man interested in earthquakes, I have been watching the aftershock pattern over there and I think that there might be a small chance (or large, depending on things) of an aftershock that is Mw7.0 at least. But it also appears that the stress in the crust in this area has moved east and west of the current epicenter.

The reason for the current massive damage due to this earthquake is because it did happen at only 10 km depth. If it had happened at 40 or 80 km depth, there would have been less damage as less energy from the earthquake would have reached the surface.

There are going to be many, many aftershocks in this area for the next two months or more. Most of them from mb4.5 up to Mw6.5. Creating more damage to already badly damaged houses in the nearby area.

Good list of aftershocks can be seen here, along with information on the main quake.

http://www.emsc-csem.org/index.php?page=current&sub=list [emsc-csem.org]

Compare (3, Insightful)

jandersen (462034) | more than 6 years ago | (#23388434)

An earthquake hits China, tens or hundreds of thousands of people may have been killed. Response: idiotic jokes, complaints about this not being 'tech', ignorant nonsense about politics.

Planes hit a couple of tall buildings in New York, a few thousand people are killed. Response: wild cries of pain and anger, unbridled hatred against anything from the Middle East, America starts two wars of revenge.

Is there something about the proportions here that isn't quite right? I mean, after the 9/11 attack sympathy poured from all over the world, even Yasser Arafat expressed his outrage against the attackers. But the response of the Americans to a major disaster in China is one ridicule and cold, heartless arrogance hiding behind and thin excuse of 'but they are evil communists'. Is that really the best you guys can manage? You know, sometimes you really make it an uphill battle to love and respect America.
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