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The Most Annoying Software Out There

timothy posted more than 6 years ago | from the to-kick-while-down dept.

Software 885

superglaze writes "ZDNet UK has a very entertaining round-up of the most annoying software out there, and everything from RealPlayer and Adobe Reader to Java and Norton Antivirus gets a kicking. 'The internet has brought us many joys. It's rewritten the rules of business and pleasure. And pain. For it allows what may have seemed like bright ideas at the time ('let's use it to make sure our customers have the latest software', for example) to turn into a stinking pit of misery — usually, but by no means always, after marketing gets its fangs in.'"

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Print Version (and my Apple woes) (5, Informative)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476448)

Print Version [zdnet.co.uk] (unless you want to click through about 10 pages)

And I agree with most of these, particularly Apple. I recently spent several hours trying to remove Quicktime from my system and replace it with Quicktime alternative. I had to go in and hand edit the registry. The damn program was incidious about wriggling it's way back into my system tray and running processes if every single reference to it wasn't removed from the registry. That will be the last piece of Apple software I ever install on my system.

Re:Print Version (and my Apple woes) (5, Informative)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476704)

Worse than that, actually. If you try to delete qttray.exe, the quicklauncher app that sits in the task tray and eats up memory for no other reason than giving QT a minor boost on startup, the quicktime application will detect this on system reboot (because it is registered as a startup application) and recreate the qttray.exe executable file from a stored version somewhere in its own bowels.

That's right. If you delete qttray, Quicktime opens its maw and barfs up a new version of it. Then it turns it on and puts it back in the task tray.

Re:Print Version (and my Apple woes) (3, Informative)

Ollabelle (980205) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476910)

So don't delete it. Just run msconfig.exe and disable it.

Re:Print Version (and my Apple woes) (5, Insightful)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477038)

Why should I change my usage? They're the ones that suck.

Re:Print Version (and my Apple woes) (5, Insightful)

tha_mink (518151) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476942)

Yeah, and the Safari "update". If I wanted yet *another* browser, I'd have installed it myself. Don't include it as a quicktime update. WTF? Seriously apple, WTF?

A hearty welcome to our latest new member (5, Interesting)

zappepcs (820751) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476772)

Welcome elrous0, to the 'what were they thinking? anti-software fan club'

Here we will help you commiserate as you belch out the pains brought to you by software that is premised on the thought that ALL users would surely want this software until the day they die.

With the mentality (and social skills) of clippy, these coders work double time to ensure that your experience with their software will be never ending. What could possibly be worse than malware you might ask. How about software that has an uninstall feature but won't do so?

I'm wagging my finger at you AOL, Apple, MS... you, antivirus guy in the back snickering, you can STFU too.

We're glad to have you as a member, and look forward to your votes in the awards ceremonies next year. Note that Internet infamy is your for the taking if your right up for nominees is both exacting and excoriating.

I'm still investigating, but the OOo quickstart on XP may get a nomination. HP printer driver division has a place on my list too.

Anyway, mill around, meet the other members, enjoy....

Re:Print Version (and my Apple woes) (5, Insightful)

RetroGeek (206522) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476876)

I recently spent several hours trying to remove Quicktime from my system and replace it with Quicktime alternative. I had to go in and hand edit the registry.

You should try to remove Norton virus checker. It has pieces of itself everywhere, and it over writes Windows system files with its own.

So you get a brand new machine, and during the first login, the Norton installer runs. You have NO choice in this. Some deal was reached between the machine distributor and Norton, and that is just the way it is.

If you make a mistake, the entire Windows system goes sideways. We alway do an image FIRST, then try to remove it. That way if something blows up you have a fallback. Then we make an image for the rest of the same type of machine, and we re-image every new one that comes in the door.

Hey Norton: go stuff it!

Quicktime Browser Integration (1)

AioKits (1235070) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477044)

While this will probably earn me fire and a n00b tag, how the fuck does one remove the 'browser integration' that QuickTime does? Now everytime I go looking for sound effects and they come in MP3 format, it wants to play them in QT right off the webpage! I looked but I don't see anywhere to remove this POS feature.

Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, but this is bar none one of the more annoying aspects of QuickTime. Gimme back my damned browser!

Norton Products... (5, Insightful)

DaRat (678130) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476476)

The worst has to be the Norton XXXX products. I installed Norton 360 v2 on my laptop as an "upgrade" to Norton AntiVirus 2007, and I think that intentionally installing a few viruses and malware would have resulted in better overall system performance.

Symantec tech support was, of course, useless:
"Sir, you have a virus or malware."
"Yes, I know: the malware is called Norton 360 since my problems didn't appear until I installed your product. What I want to know is how to stop Norton 360 from using 100% of both cores and incessently accessing the DVD drive for no apparent reason."
"Sir, you need to run a scan for virus and malware."

At least I got the damn thing uninstalled and got a refund. Never again...

Re:Norton Products... (5, Informative)

The Living Fractal (162153) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476534)

Repeat after me:

AVG Free.
AVG Free.
AVG Free.

You should start to feel better soon.

Re:Norton Products... (4, Informative)

gravyface (592485) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476682)

While I'm a regular AVG user (Free Edition at home, and Network Edition for my clients), the interface is attrocious, the malware encyclopedia is next to useless, and the bizarre update/error-state notices are a nuisance. Version 8 improved the admin console a bit, but not nearly enough.

Re:Norton Products... (2, Insightful)

Corporate Troll (537873) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476968)

I love AVG, but the version 8 isn't really as good as the 7.5. It eats up CPU and is a bit more intrusive. Wish that I hadn't upgraded.

Re:Norton Products... (5, Interesting)

geekoid (135745) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477096)

I just installed AVG free 8.0 and it immediatly told my I had a virus in an email and deleted my whole inbox.

Just an FYI

Re:Norton Products... (4, Interesting)

Richard Steiner (1585) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476558)

The decline of Norton is a sad story. I remember when Norton's Disk Doctor for DOS was cool, and when it was fun to watch Speedisk shuffle the clusters on your FAT filesystem all around. And it actually worked as advertised! :-)

What was the last good version? Norton Utilities for DOS 6.01?

Re:Norton Products... (4, Insightful)

MrMr (219533) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477032)

I'd say around 1990 or MS-DOS 5.0, when Peter norton sold his company to Symantec.

Re:Norton Products... (2, Interesting)

stubob (204064) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476938)

Seconded. After twiddling with VPN settings in Anti-Virus 2007, which featured a firewall that they didn't ever mention, it decided to upgrade to 2008. Guess what? It didn't move my additional rules over and I had to redo them.

I'm not renewing when the subscription expires.

Re:Norton Products... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23477090)

Stop using Windoze, you idiot. Then you won't need anti-virus software at all. Been using Linux for 10 years and never had a virus or installed anti-virus software.

Basically, you suck for being an idiot!

Did they mention linux firefox? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23476536)

Because that page is not working for me. Seriously, firefox running under linux is a serious piece of shit. Nothing works.

Re:Did they mention linux firefox? (2, Informative)

Uncle Focker (1277658) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476614)

Sounds like user error to me. I've been using Firefox on Linux for years with no issues beyond the hacks it takes to get 32-bit Flash to work in 64-bit Firefox. What exactly are you problems?

Re:Did they mention linux firefox? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23476738)

Actually I found some problems with fonts. As Windows fonts are not available on Linux , some of webpages are falling apart. Not so much apart as some of text goes over some lines, sometimes it wraps so checkboxes are not where they should be, etc, etc...

It's hard to blame Firefox for sloppy web programming, but that's how it just works.

Re:Did they mention linux firefox? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23476758)

User error? What exactly did I do wrong except use the auto installer?

In this very article, when I click the red arrows to go to the next page, they go backwards. Plus the images? don't show up at all. Firefox is shit in linux. I have been using it for years and it sucks. I use redhat enterprise 4ws so it's not exactly a backwoods distro. Also, what the fuck is user error? Did I do something wrong when I clicked the "download and install firefox" link?

Re:Did they mention linux firefox? (3, Informative)

pdusen (1146399) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476836)

If Firefox had widespread problems like this, it wouldn't be installed by default on so many distros. Either you broke something or you're a troll.

Re:Did they mention linux firefox? (4, Insightful)

Uncle Focker (1277658) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476918)

In this very article, when I click the red arrows to go to the next page, they go backwards.
They don't for me and I've just tested it on 5 different boxes running Linux.

Plus the images? don't show up at all.
Are you running no script or something else that could be blocking them? They show up just fine again here.

Firefox is shit in linux.
You keep stating this and then giving examples that I can't reproduce on any available machine.

I have been using it for years and it sucks.
Bullshit. If you had such severe problems as you claim you'd have stopped using it unless you're just an idiot. Since you're just trolling, though, it matters not. Get some better material next time.

Re:Did they mention linux firefox? (0, Offtopic)

pdusen (1146399) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476800)

Seriously for serious? Seriously? Are you totally serious?

Re:Did they mention linux firefox? (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476960)

He's super serial.

Winamp becoming Damned Irritating (5, Interesting)

Toreo asesino (951231) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476542)

I've noticed recently it's wanted to update itself about once every two weeks, which would be fine if it was a FireFox type update - nice and clean, restart app & done, but instead the update mechanism is something like the following:

Click on "omg! Update me!" big window.
Browse through newly openeded browser window.
No, just the free one, no shitty MP3's thanks.
Download. Click install.
No ffs, don't take control over all my media types.
No, keep your shitty ad-ware.
Die Winamp agent; if you're not the default for everything it's for a reason.
Yeah, same settings as last time (it's an update ffs).
Oh right, you changed a bunch of setting anyway, thanks.

There's just a tonne of questions that are so unnecessary for a minor update, which seem to come thick & fast these days. Thanks a bunch AOL; you've created the least smooth updating process i've seen in a while.

Re:Winamp becoming Damned Irritating (2, Insightful)

PsyQo (1020321) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476606)

You forgot that when you change the volume of winamp, it changes the master volume of your PC.

Re:Winamp becoming Damned Irritating (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23477000)

You should be using DirectSound ouput, which doesn't alter the system volume settings (if you can't/don't want to, download QCD, http://www.quinnware.com/ , which, AFAIK, has the option you want, without using DirectSound).

Re:Winamp becoming Damned Irritating (1)

compro01 (777531) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476762)

This is the reason I still use the old version 2.95 (available @ oldversion.com). Lightweight, simple, no messing around. It Just Works.

Re:Winamp becoming Damned Irritating (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23477084)

Foobar2000

Agreed, but.... (1)

xpuppykickerx (1290760) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476556)

Apparently, they didn't try out TimeMaker.

Honestly, these problems are solveable (4, Informative)

It doesn't come easy (695416) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476568)

Adobe Reader - Using open source PDF reader "Evince Document Viewer" instead. Result? Software does not annoy.

Apple iTunes - Using open source music program "Amarok". Result? Software does not annoy (and works much better than iTunes as well).

Windows Update - Using Genuine Linux Distro "Ubuntu". Result? No licensing restrictions, no DRM, no repeated system restarts, no service packs to fix the previous service pack, that fixed the previous service pack, that fixed months old critical bugs.

RealPlayer - Avoiding RealPlayer like the plague it is (using "Amarok" for the same functionality, if not the same file format). Result? No privacy leaks, no ads, no reporting back to Real on what I listen to or where I visit on the web.

Java - Using Sun's Java without the Yahoo toolbar. Result? Java is reasonably well behaved. Looking forward to truly open-sourced Java in the near future.

Yahoo - Use Yahoo's maps to check up on Google results. Use Yahoo throw-away email when I need to be a little bit stealthy. Otherwise avoid Yahoo.com like the plague it is. Result? Happy camper.

Norton Antivirus - Using upgraded OS "Linux" so that viruses are not a problem. Result? Viruses? I don't have no stinking viruses!

Preinstalled software bundles - Using upgraded OS "Linux" so that preinstalled software bundles are not a problem. Result? Preinstalled software bundles? I don't have no stinking preinstalled software bundles!

Outlook/Exchange - Using "Evolution". The jury is still out on whether "Evolution" is worth using verses online calendar and scheduling web sites.

Flash - Using...nothing. Avoiding flash based websites like the plague they are. Results? Fast web page loading, no privacy issues, no vector for malware installation, only see web pages that actually provide links to relevant content.

Re:Honestly, these problems are solveable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23476672)

You forgot Quicktime, and Apple trying to force it down our throats every 10 seconds, plus the huge size of the updates for it.

Re:Honestly, these problems are solveable (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23476722)

Adobe Reader - Using open source PDF reader "Evince Document Viewer" instead. Result? Software does not annoy.
Yeah, too bad nothing other than the Adobe version can support Reader plugins. Document signing, etc.

Apple iTunes - Using open source music program "Amarok". Result? Software does not annoy (and works much better than iTunes as well).
You can buy stuff from iTunes in Amarok?

Norton Antivirus - Using upgraded OS "Linux" so that viruses are not a problem. Result? Viruses? I don't have no stinking viruses!
Not yet anyway.

Preinstalled software bundles - Using upgraded OS "Linux" so that preinstalled software bundles are not a problem. Result? Preinstalled software bundles? I don't have no stinking preinstalled software bundles!
This I don't even know what you are talking about. Hell, Ubuntu comes with a shitload of preinstalled stuff.

Outlook/Exchange - Using "Evolution". The jury is still out on whether "Evolution" is worth using verses online calendar and scheduling web sites.
Evolution sucks donkey balls. Thunderbird is better (PKCS#11 support, smartcards, etc). There is no good calendering unfortunately (Sunbird maybe some day).

Flash - Using...nothing. Avoiding flash based websites like the plague they are. Results? Fast web page loading, no privacy issues, no vector for malware installation, only see web pages that actually provide links to relevant content.
You would have to be an idiot to ignore YouTube and sites like it. I'm not talking about all the stupid crap on there. I'm talking about the tutorials and such. The instructional value is off the charts.

Re:Honestly, these problems are solveable (1)

gzipped_tar (1151931) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476730)

>Outlook/Exchange - Using "Evolution". The jury is still out on whether "Evolution" is worth using verses online calendar and scheduling web sites.

Use Thunderbird + PGP extension(Enigmail). Thunderbird is lightweight while still has quite a few good features like LDAP support, etc.

Re:Honestly, these problems are solveable (3, Informative)

Oxy the moron (770724) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476776)

Apple iTunes - Using open source music program "Amarok". Result? Software does not annoy (and works much better than iTunes as well).

This one needs some clarification... Remember not to buy your music from the iTunes store or using Amarok doesn't help much. Buy from a vendor that does not use DRM-laden music downloads (such as Amazon), use Amarok, and annoyances are no more!

Re:Honestly, these problems are solveable (3, Informative)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476802)

Flash- Using NoScript to decide which pages/sites could show me flash content. Only see what i want,

Re:Honestly, these problems are solveable (1)

compro01 (777531) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476820)

not to mention adobe's massive acrobat updates. i have to clean up after that stupid program at least once a day at work, as that stupid 19MB worth of update overfills people's roaming profiles.

Re:Honestly, these problems are solveable (4, Insightful)

SirGeek (120712) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476844)

Adobe Reader - Using open source PDF reader "Evince Document Viewer" instead. Result? Software does not annoy.

For Linux, Agreed. But when is Evince going to work in Windows ? Oh. Never ?? So what choice does a person using windows have ?

Apple iTunes - Using open source music program "Amarok". Result? Software does not annoy (and works much better than iTunes as well).

For Linux, Agreed. But when is Amarok going to work in Windows or with people's iPods? Oh. Never ?? So what alternateive choice does a person using windows have ?

Windows Update - Using Genuine Linux Distro "Ubuntu". Result? No licensing restrictions, no DRM, no repeated system restarts, no service packs to fix the previous service pack, that fixed the previous service pack, that fixed months old critical bugs.

No repeated system restarts, but none ? What about when your kernel is updated ? What about VMWare needing to be recompiled once you HAVE rebooted ?

RealPlayer - Avoiding RealPlayer like the plague it is (using "Amarok" for the same functionality, if not the same file format). Result? No privacy leaks, no ads, no reporting back to Real on what I listen to or where I visit on the web.

See above comments for Amarok.

Java - Using Sun's Java without the Yahoo toolbar. Result? Java is reasonably well behaved. Looking forward to truly open-sourced Java in the near future.
True.

Yahoo - Use Yahoo's maps to check up on Google results. Use Yahoo throw-away email when I need to be a little bit stealthy. Otherwise avoid Yahoo.com like the plague it is. Result? Happy camper.
You are kidding right ? What do you do when you have a company that USES Yahoo for its "approved" IM provider ?

Norton Antivirus - Using upgraded OS "Linux" so that viruses are not a problem. Result? Viruses? I don't have no stinking viruses!

True. However if you do filesharing with Windows, you should consider something like Avast which has a free Windows AND Linux version.

Re:Honestly, these problems are solveable (1)

gardyloo (512791) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476854)

Windows Update - Using Genuine Linux Distro "Ubuntu". Result? No licensing restrictions, no DRM, no repeated system restarts, no service packs to fix the previous service pack, that fixed the previous service pack, that fixed months old critical bugs.
While I might pick a nit with the choice of Ubuntu, the philosophy is spot-on. For those having to use Windows once in a while, there's always http://windizupdate.com/ [windizupdate.com] .

Re:Honestly, these problems are solveable (5, Insightful)

pdusen (1146399) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476884)

"Stop using Windows" isn't a bugfix.

Re:Honestly, these problems are solveable (5, Informative)

theaceoffire (1053556) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476892)

I don't like your flash solution, so here is mine: Firefox + Flash Block [mozilla.org] .


I get all the benefits of no flash, but can still watch youtube and all the rest if I change my mind with no hassle.

Re:Honestly, these problems are solveable (1, Troll)

Prien715 (251944) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477012)

I assume you're not honestly serious. Or that you've never used any of the programs in question and didn't bother to RTFA.

Outlook -- You didn't read the part about "fast searching" and "threaded conversations" did you?

Flash -- TFA makes the same comment as you.

Use Linux -- some of us like to play games besides Nethack, Tux Racer, and Quake 3...and might even use Word from time to time. That and the learning curve. Oh. And we need to build our own computers and/or reinstall the OS so we don't have pre installed software bundles. All so I can use firefox to surf the web, cause honestly, that's the only EXCELLENT desktop application Linux has. Otherwise, it's like using Sam's club brand everything. Like Tide? Then you'll love Tibe! Like Photoshop? Limp with the Gimp!

(Typed from FireFox 3 Rc1 on Redhat;))

That page was annoying (3, Informative)

Todd Fisher (680265) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476590)

I found the layout and navigation of that gallery pretty annoying.

I concur (3, Insightful)

Finallyjoined!!! (1158431) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477026)

And will not be re-visiting the ad-laden abomination that is ZDNet UK ever again.

They should have included themselves on the bloody list.

Bloody Adobe Reader (4, Interesting)

tempest69 (572798) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476634)

I have no clue as to why this program takes upwards of a minute to read a simple pdf file that is mostly text. It really boggles my mind as to what the computer could be doing with that time/cycles.. Where as foxit can load the same pdf in a blink of an eye.. but microsoft loves to revert the extentions to adobe, unless I march through a convoluted maze to revert it back. never let your well-meaning friend install adobe on your box, it's a nightmare to remove.


Storm

Re:Bloody Adobe Reader (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476862)

never let your well-meaning friend install adobe on your box, it's a nightmare to remove.
What does Add/Remove Programs fail to do, unless perhaps you have the full version of Acrobat installed?

Simple answer - it's crap! (1)

Finallyjoined!!! (1158431) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477072)

Nuff said

Java (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23476638)

They hit the nail on the head with that memory hog.

Why just Windows Update? (5, Funny)

hyperz69 (1226464) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476654)

I think they could have just said VISTA... Done! Though seriously this app misses, a few apps. Mainly... GOOGLE BAR? Dear god, does every application on the planet now try to install google bar? Completely removing it requires a virgin, 2 brillo pads, a priest, plus 6 gallons of goats blood.

Re:Why just Windows Update? (5, Funny)

eln (21727) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476840)

Please do not speak ill of Google Bar. Google does no harm to anyone, and all of its software is useful and error-free. Speaking negatively of Google is unwise. Remember, they know where you live.

What? (4, Funny)

Daimanta (1140543) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476656)

No Microsoft Bob?

windows (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23476664)

windows

Please let Apple software update be on there... (5, Insightful)

shawnmchorse (442605) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476686)

I'm almost to the point where I want to remove Quicktime from all of my machines, because I'm so tired of being asked to "upgrade" to Safari and iTunes.

Re:Please let Apple software update be on there... (1)

rjamestaylor (117847) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477018)

+! Right-On-The-Mark

I hate "upgrading" iTunes and QuickTime (and the requisite reboot!)

Windows Vista (2, Insightful)

QuietLagoon (813062) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476688)

According to Microsoft, Vista actually was designed to be annoying. That is one design goal in which Microsoft seems to have succeeded [google.com] .

Takes one to know one (4, Informative)

Roger W Moore (538166) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476696)

Since they were including companies as well as just software I hereby nominate ZDNet for most annoying website. Why can't they stick the 11 short paragraphs making up the article on ONE PAGE!

My vote: HP (5, Informative)

truthsearch (249536) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476706)

We have one of those all-in-one HP printers at my office, where we're all on Macs. When we first got the printer I installed the disk with the Mac drivers. It also installed a bunch of utilities. Playing around with these utilities I found a tedious maze of buttons and windows. I couldn't even find the most obvious features, like where to see a scanned document.

But I also noticed my computer was running slower, even when no HP utilities were being used. So I looked at the Activity Monitor and found the HP background applications were permanently taking up 10% CPU, even if nothing was ever printed or scanned. So I removed all of the HP utilities and drivers and found a driver built into OS X which was for almost the same model number. I have no problems at all printing and my CPU is back to normal utilization.

Not only do these HP utilities suck, but they're annoying when you're not even using them.

Re:My vote: HP (1)

steak (145650) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476746)

seconded those all in one hp printer drivers are the devil

Re:My vote: HP (1)

pdusen (1146399) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476922)

Ironically, HP all-in-one printers are a breeze to set up in windows.

Re:My vote: HP (4, Interesting)

Mordok-DestroyerOfWo (1000167) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476946)

We were on on offshore survey in the Gulf of Mexico when one of our computers died. No problem I thought, I threw in a spare laptop SATA and reinstalled Windows and the survey software. When it came time to download the printer drivers from HP they came in at a whopping 135 MB! For a damn driver! We were on a satellite linkup and downloading that one driver to print out the results cost over $100.

Re:My vote: HP (1)

pcraven (191172) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477098)

I second for Windows. Easy to set up, but HP's all-in-one runs about 7 processes all the time. Plus it automatically updates about once a week.

Update apps... (5, Insightful)

Bert64 (520050) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476708)

Update apps are a pain in the backside, but they are a symptom of the way windows and osx are designed...

There's no question that your system should be aware of what software is installed, and what the latest version is, and make the user aware too and give them the option to install the updates.

On linux you rarely, if ever, get problems like this because the updates are handled centrally.

The problem with windows and osx, is that there is no central way for third party apps to register to the automatic update mechanism, the supplied update functions are only for the original vendor's apps, not third parties, meaning every third party has their own update service wasting memory and informing/annoying you in different ways.

The linux approach is orders of magnitude better, centralised package repositories, a centralised method of informing the user, you can choose how to be informed of updates, and you won't be hassle any other way. To further help matters, the package manager knows of packages you don't have installed too, giving you single click access to the latest versions of a whole host of additional applications.

What about Lotus Note? (4, Funny)

paradoxSpirit (1172919) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476720)

How could they have forgotten Lotus Note?

Re:What about Lotus Note? (2, Funny)

Uncle Focker (1277658) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476798)

Aren't they only talking about software that people actually use?

iTunes! (1)

t'mbert (301531) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476728)

iTunes is the worst, IMO. It seems no matter how many times I patch it, just days later there's another patch. Every patch is a full download and reinstall, and every patch re-installs the damn Quicktime thingy in my taskbar. And now it sends me Safari too. Ugh!

Article is a Troll (3, Interesting)

teknopurge (199509) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476732)

The Exchange/Outlook comment? I mean come on. The author, in order to prove how bad outlook is, pimps Online Free email services? Who the hell is this guy and why is he writing articles on the topic if he's never worked(obviously) in a corporate environment? His best quip is that Outlook doesn't have threaded views? Is he for real?

Regards,

Re:Article is a Troll (1)

pdusen (1146399) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476940)

Yeah, only about half of these gripes make any sense.

Windows woes (1)

Hoplite3 (671379) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476740)

There's no unified, trustable source for software updates on windows? That's hilarious.

When I see this stuff, I think "World of Warcraft must be really great to keep people on Windows!"

Re:Windows woes (2, Interesting)

zoward (188110) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476928)

I've been playing WoW relibably on Linux for years. Works great under WINE. Producing an OpenGL version of the client (mostly in order to provide a Mac version) of WoW pretty much bought Blizzard the lion's share of MMO users running Linux.

Re:Windows woes (1, Troll)

pdusen (1146399) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476978)

The only reason Linux has a unified update source (unless you add more repos) is because so few companies write software for Linux that the distros have to provide similar software themselves. If Linux ever does achieve desktop popularity, you'll be in for a rude awakening.

Most CD burning apps. (1, Interesting)

DRAGONWEEZEL (125809) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476742)

Why do I have to stick my CD in the drive before it starts to convert (copy)files? What is the DEAL? Why doesn't it start doing that, and if I don't insert a CD by the time it's done ask if I still want to burn! Or make it a switch? UGGHHH

It's for multisession CD-R. (2, Informative)

tepples (727027) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476958)

Why do I have to stick my CD in the drive before it starts to convert (copy)files?
So that the CD mastering software can know if you want to add an additional session to an existing CD-R.

Software annoys becuse ... (2, Insightful)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476754)

For a product to improve there should be feedback to the market forces that removes bad software. When the feedback is bad because the users are apathetic or because the users are uninformed the product will not improve. Just browse through the old advertisements at the turn of the century American newspapers. Thousands and thousands of ads for things like, "Uncle Ben's Oil of Balsam, complete cure for Arthritis". When the users are not able judge the product objectively, there is no way for the free market to improve the product through competition.

The computer magazines whose job it is to educate the consumers and judge software are compromised by the conflict of interest. They depend on the ads from the very same software companies to survive.

my vote ... QuickTime is clearly malware no.1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23476760)

Personally, I'm so completely tired of having Apple force it's way on to my PC. Why is QuickTime so intrusive and difficult to disable or uninstall? Doesn't Steve realize just how many people his company has alienated with their abusive marketing campaign, which is poorly posing as a media player. I wonder if anyone else finds QuickTime as annoying as I have?

ARGHSFARGH! (5, Insightful)

Aquaseafoam (1271478) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476766)

The most annoying thing for me? The stupid little bubble that pops up to inform me that wireless networks are in range, even when I am running through a wired connection. The only way I've found to really get rid of this is to disable the connection, a hassle for whenever I try and go anywhere. Of course, this particular annoyance only really hits me nowadays when I need to boot into my small windows partition. Ubuntu FTW.

Antivirus + Java (2, Funny)

grassy_knoll (412409) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476770)

For the vortex of suck, get stuck with an antivirus package set up to scan everything at launch ( no exceptions... thanks, corporate ), then fire up some Java. Bonus points for utilizing a .jar file.

+ Nintendo DS (2, Funny)

tepples (727027) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477088)

For the vortex of suck, get stuck with an antivirus package set up to scan everything at launch ( no exceptions... thanks, corporate )
If your employer is paying you to sit and watch an antivirus package scan the entire hard disk, that's what a Nintendo DS is for. If your employer bans that too, it might be time to weigh whether you should exercise your "right to work" for someone else.

Flash (1)

jps25 (1286898) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476786)

While I agree with most (exclude Java), I find it rather ironic that they bitch about flash-sites, yet spread their list over 11 pages.

Of course, because they're clueless on good Flash (1)

PortHaven (242123) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477082)

They could have had a single tile component, clicking could enlarge. Oh yes, and if they coded their app right, it could work with the back button and provide accessibility functions.

Acrobat Reader on Linux (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23476788)

I've appreciated that Adobe has provided Reader for Linux for quite some time now. Until I tried their latest a number of months ago (version 8? or 9?).

It insisted upon putting a bunch of worthless crap in my ~/.kde and ~/.local directories, overriding my MIME types and replacing KDE's PDF icons (which looked consistent with all the other KDE icons) with its own icons, which clearly were out of place.

Of course, it also decided to set itself as the preferred reader for PDFs, contrary to my preference. It would have been annoying, but bearable, had it asked me about this before it made invasive changes, but simply running the program was enough to wreak havoc.

So fuck you Adobe, I'll continue to use kpdf, which doesn't feel the need to take over my desktop. As an added bonus, kpdf doesn't have a million worthless plugins that slow down application startup, either.

Adobe inDesign (PageMaker R.I.P.) (1)

starglider29a (719559) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476846)

Let's take 19 years of ingrained, if not intuitive human to document interface... and change EVERYTHING!

I used PageMaker in Version 1.0 on Run-Time Windows. I adapted to additions and some minor rethinking of menus. N/P. I knew every keyboard shortcut (that I needed) and made the claim "I may not be good, but i'm FAST!"

Exit Pagemaker, Enter InDesign. End of Story.

Left out Top Ten Slideshows (4, Insightful)

rocketjam (696072) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476880)

What about "top ten slideshows" on big media websites that present their "top ten" on eleven or twelve separate pages, each filled with more ads and other distractions than the actual "content" you've been directed to via Slashdot?

Yeah, I know they're not "applications" but, the annoyance factor is right up there.

Outlook/Exchange? (2)

Drakin020 (980931) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476894)

Seriously? One of the most annoying? I beg to differ.

Re:Outlook/Exchange? (1)

Joe U (443617) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477052)

I use outlook, it can be quirky, which is my biggest frustration with it. It's a good email program/pim when it's working properly.

Flashblock FTW (3, Informative)

snarfies (115214) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476896)

Too many websites lean on Flash too heavily. You'll have a lot of trouble getting by without it on a lot of websites. Its obnoxious, and what's more, there's more and more Flash-based advertising appearing on various websites (yes, I'm glaring at you too, Slashdot). But there is a way to make Flash be a little more well-behaved: http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ [mozdev.org]

Best Firefox extension EVER. Works on Seamonkey, too, which is what I use at home.

gcj (1)

gzipped_tar (1151931) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476900)

In the case of Java, you can use GCJ (http://gcc.gnu.org/java/) to compile Java to bytecode / native code, and, and, ... "Because that's what programming languages are there to do, right?" (from TFA).

It's Not Always the Software Per Se (4, Interesting)

FurtiveGlancer (1274746) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476906)

Sometimes it's the exclusive distribution method or the update method that truly irks.

Google's Sketch-up Pro is available only by download. Not a problem in the US, but on a remote US base in Afghanistan? A CD/DVD option would have been most helpful.

As already pointed out above, updaters can be a significant issue even if the software itself is acceptable. The status quo should be maintained for settings, file associations and preferences, TYVM.

Advertise on the web and through the quality of your product, not via the update process.

I have it in one word... (1)

Jedi74 (173908) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476908)

...Weatherbug :(

The answer is right there in front of you (5, Funny)

HungWeiLo (250320) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476962)

Look at the top of your window:

"The Most Annoying Software Out There - Mozilla Firefox 3 Beta 5"

I didn't say it - the browser did!

Re:The answer is right there in front of you (3, Funny)

JimR (101182) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477078)

Hmmm, the title bar on my browser window says:

Slashdot | The Most Annoying Software Out There

Funnily enough, about Flash... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23476986)

Whilst I was trying to read the page on why Flash is so annoying, a doubleclick ad keeps popping up on zdnet.co.uk asking me if my data centers are secure...and crashing my browser every 60 seconds due to a memory violation in the flash code for the ad. Seriously. I'll take flashing animated GIF ads over playing russian roulette with randomly selected buggy flash ads any day...and before you ask my flash plugin & mozilla are fine, thanks.

It's not irony, it's amusing coincidence.

Java update process needs fixing (4, Informative)

schwit1 (797399) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476992)

Some of my users' add/remove programs have a half dozen separate Java installs. And they all install in separate folders.


Java(tm) 5 update 6
Java(tm) 5 update 11
Java(tm) 6 update 1
Java(tm) 6 update 3
Java(tm) 6 update 4
Java(tm) 6 update 6

RealPlayer-Rhapsody (1)

Sun.Jedi (1280674) | more than 6 years ago | (#23476996)



True story. If you listen to the "Big Classic Rock" channel long enough (~3 hours), it runs out of songs or the db gets AFU, and starts plays hip-hop, big band, anything except big classic rock. This happens to me quite often and is easily repeatable.

Another annoying 'feature' is the process (DRM check I'd assume) called "synchronizing your library" at login. If, in fact, its not DRM, then its still annoyingly slow to reconcile the 6 whole songs I've purchased from them. Combined with the appearance that RP wants to own the songs/media I did not buy from them.

Marketing does it again... (2, Interesting)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477016)

Yeah, our marketing people want us to implement a pop-up "reminder" for those users who have not bought product... I groaned when I saw that in the task list. Yes, we are in business to sell, but no, we do NOT want to annoy our potential customers! I think the Golden Rule works well here.

New version popups (1)

heroine (1220) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477056)

Would consider the relentless popup windows for upgrades to be the biggest pain. Upgrade from 2.0.0.5 to 2.0.0.6 anyone? For security reasons, you better keep clicking away if you want your movie to stay in front of these popups.

worse than annoying for someone like me (5, Interesting)

spirit_fingers (777604) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477062)

Unfortunately, I'm the IT Manager for the ad agency of one of the most annoying programs mentioned in that article (I won't mention which one). So I'm in the unhappy position of having to install our client's software on all of our computers. Would I use that software if the company weren't our client? NO FUCKING WAY! If there is a hell for IT support people, I'm in it. I not only have to support this crapware, but I have to pretend that it's the greatest thing since oral sex.

Flash (-1, Flamebait)

Ralph Spoilsport (673134) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477080)

Flash sucks on SO many levels.

1. Sites that are skimpy on content will have lots of flash. "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit". It makes extracting what content they have that much more difficult.

2. It was designed to be an online animation program. It drove a stake through the heart of Macromedia Director, so the engineers that had made Director (which was originally an animation program) a great steaming tourde, turned their attentions upon Flash and turned it into a great steaming "platform".

3. The user interface for Flash sucked horribley since version 1, and they've done precious little to fix it. It's a pain in the ass to use and is utterly counter intuitive. Only in the past year or so have they made it work like "other" bezier curve illustration programs, and even then, it's suboptimal.

4. Flash, when used in conjunction with ColdFusion is a desperate pig. slow, inconvenient. Ugh. It's why AJAX was invented.

5. Flash is code centric, when it should be design centric.

6. Flash COULD be useful in PDFs - animation in a PDF would fucking rock, but the integration of Flash into PDF is abyssmal, and it would lock the user into using another wanking great tourde: Adobe Reader.

I hate Flash. I want it to disappear, or be completely redesigned from the ground up, so that codemonkeys can do code and see results in a player, or, designers can instantly access reams of code embedded invisibly in flash parts, and do the most complex things without programming. I never use Flash. If it requires some kind of interactivity, there is lots one can do with JavaScript and HTML.

As dorky as Dreamweaver is, I find it a LOT more useful than Flash. I think Flash should be banned.

RS

so-so (2, Insightful)

Tom (822) | more than 6 years ago | (#23477092)

Some of these are justified - Adobe Reader sucks, there's no excuse why it takes a minute to load while a tap on the spacebar on OS X brings up a preview of the same PDF instantly, and many other PDF readers load in a tenth that time.

Apple Update - I don't have a beef with that.

Windos Update - is a study on how not to do it. It'll pop up even if you're running a fullscreen application at that time, some of which don't handle that gracefully. It'll tell you every few minutes that it wants to reboot, no matter how often you tell it to go stand in the corner. Really annoying freak.

Norton - yeah, if you've not already replaced it with any of the free and better alternatives, then you deserve the pain.

Sony crap - oh yes. They even forgot to mention that nothing in the docs tells you what does what, so you're left guessing as to which of these might be, you know, important driver packages, and which are just crap they added because someone in marketing thought it's a nifty idea.

Outlook - YES, FINALLY! Outlook is one of those things where I'm all for the death penalty. Outlook is the worst disaster for corporate productivity this side of the galactic core. It's also the worst e-mail client I've ever used, and that's a fairly long list. Outlook is enterprise messaging gone horribly wrong, in more ways than you thought possible. I'm SOO glad they put it on the list.

Flash - I find that one a bit unfair. Flash can be a cool tool, but it's often abused in ways that would be illegal if it were a human being. I'm not sure Adobe alone is to blame for that.
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