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Dragon Quest IV Coming to the DS

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 6 years ago | from the very-targeted-appeal dept.

Portables (Games) 43

Kotaku is reporting that, while no official announcement has been forthcoming, a new Square Enix Dragon Quest IV teaser site has been launched. It seems that the game is slated for a September 16th release in the US for the DS. In addition to the announcement, the site also seems to be promising Dragon Quest V and VI at undisclosed times in the future.

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wtf? (-1, Troll)

FredFredrickson (1177871) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493006)

What's up with all these kotaku.com posts recently? I literally had to google to figure out that 'DS' is for the Nintendo DS. Call me out of touch, or cranky- but not every dumb little game release is news- not even games news. This looks more like some more of the kotaku pandering that went on yesterday.

I'm sure this will get me modded troll, or what not, but seriously..

Re:wtf? (1)

esocid (946821) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493118)

I'm not sure what you mean, but I think all kotaku "articles" are never over a paragraph, at least all the ones I've seen. I would have to say you are out of touch about the DS thing, but take that with a grain of salt since I own one, but I think the big deal is that it's Enix's rpg second to Final Fantasy, and yeah it's not front page worthy.

Re:wtf? (0, Redundant)

grayshirtninja (1242690) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493940)

"News for nerds, stuff that matters."

This hardly qualifies as "stuff that matters". If I cared about this sort of thing I'd be reading a gaming site. Less news for nerds, more stuff that matters please.

Re:wtf? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23493982)

I'd be reading a gaming site.

Welcome to games.slashdot.org

Re:wtf? (2, Insightful)

Uncle Focker (1277658) | more than 6 years ago | (#23494120)

If I cared about this sort of thing I'd be reading a gaming site.
So that's why you clicked onto an article from games.slashdot.org, right?

Re:wtf? (4, Funny)

Negatyfus (602326) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493422)

Call me out of touch, or cranky
You are out of touch, and cranky.

Moderation (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23493754)

I'm sure this will get me modded troll, or what not, but seriously.

No, it will probably just get you moderated "clueless".

There are many legitimate things to bash Slashdot for. This is not one of them.

Don't Leave Me in the Dark... (-1, Troll)

FurtiveGlancer (1274746) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493036)

Anyone know if it will run on DS Lite?

Are there any differences between DS and lite? (1)

georgeha (43752) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493170)

Other than size? I'm not aware of any functional ones (my girls love their DS Lites).

Re:Are there any differences between DS and lite? (3, Informative)

aliquis (678370) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493382)

The major improvement are the backlighting of the LCD, the lite ones are much brighter, they also changed the coating so it is more scratchproof.

Also the batterylife was improved (and the size as you have already mentioned.)

Finally due to the size reduction GBA games stick out from the DS lites.

That's all I can remember (the feeling of the buttons are different aswell.)

It won't (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23493232)

Why would you expect a piece of software written for the DS to work on the DS Lite? You're the type of idiot who's tried clicking Start -> Run -> linux on your windows box, aren't you?

Re:Don't Leave Me in the Dark... (1)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493246)

If by some odd chance you're not being sarcastic, yeah, it'll run on the DS Lite. AFAIK, all DS games are DS Lite compatible. The only thing "lite" about the DS Lite is it's smaller form factor; it still has the same capabilities.

Re:Don't Leave Me in the Dark... (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493402)

Not the only thing, but they run the same software.
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=559954&cid=23493382 [slashdot.org]

Re:Don't Leave Me in the Dark... (1)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493466)

The brighter screen would be "light" not "lite" ;-) I'm a very happy DS Lite owner, playing Age of Empires, Advance Wars & looking forward to Civ Revolutions.

Re:Don't Leave Me in the Dark... (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 6 years ago | (#23494984)

What are your point? That it's named lite and not light? Or that I should have said the light one?

It's indeed named lite and it's the DS lite which have the screen with better lighting, so there are nothing wrong in my post?

Or did you just doubted it? It's much brighter in the lite.

I haven't played on mine for long, since I surf to much and play some wc3 even thought I've played it a lot. Suck... I really should play more DS.. but :/

Need Starcraft II the most though :D

Re:Don't Leave Me in the Dark... (1)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 6 years ago | (#23497068)

What are your point? That it's named lite and not light? Or that I should have said the light one?
From your grammar, I gather English might not be your native language. I wasn't trying to correct you, I was making a simple joke, a play on words. When I was commenting on the differences between the DS & DS Lite, I was only mentioning the form factor which made it "lite". Lite is typically used here in diet foods meaning they have fewer calories. A brighter screen on the other hand would have made it a DS "Light" :-)

Re:Don't Leave Me in the Dark... (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 6 years ago | (#23497536)

So what was the problem with my grammar? It's the lite which are brighter. Still.

Over here "light" is the name for the (incorrect word) diet foods.

Well, whatever "it would be" it is brighter, and it's called lite. And I think Nintendo used it for both size and brightness.

Re:Don't Leave Me in the Dark... (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493326)

Ofcourse it will, they are the same (except form, battery and lcd.)

I don't see why this makes Slashdot thought, there are lots of games for the DS and for all other game consoles aswell, but we can't have a news item for each of them can we?

Just use it for huge titles if anything, such as Starcraft II.

A third Castlevania title are in the works for the DS, I'd rather play that (Though I have played no Dragon Quest at all so I don't know what I'm missing.)

I also saw that there existed a SIP-client for the DS as homebrew, something I may actually start to use :)

Re:Don't Leave Me in the Dark... (1)

bladesjester (774793) | more than 6 years ago | (#23495474)

Just use it for huge titles if anything, such as Starcraft II.

Dragon Quest *is* a huge title. It's also an important series in Nintendo history since it was one of the first RPGs released for the NES.

Re:Don't Leave Me in the Dark... (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 6 years ago | (#23499882)

Ok, saw that there existed 3 games for NES, weird, never heard of it back then, I have seen screenshots for the DS of course but it haven't got me intrested, tried the rocket/slime thingy a little.

Re:Don't Leave Me in the Dark... (1)

bladesjester (774793) | more than 6 years ago | (#23500088)

1-4 were released in the US on the NES under the name Dragon Warrior. 1 and 4 were my favorites.

Finally, recourse for no US PSX version... (1)

Commander South (1139931) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493144)

Now all I have to do is buy a DS! I hope this is the remake, but the original would still be sufficient. I LOVED that game...

Re:Finally, recourse for no US PSX version... (1)

Creepy Crawler (680178) | more than 6 years ago | (#23494406)

Do you know the plot of the remake?

There's a 6th chapter in which Necrosaro joins your party. Turns out, he wants revenge on Radimvice for killing his beloved Rosa.

In other news... (1)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493196)

Dragon Warrior IV still won't be gracing the Virtual Console any time this century. Because why give people the original when you can make them pay for remakes again and again?

Re:In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23497538)

If only there were some way for me to pay for a re-release of something I (may or may not have) already purchased years ago for a home system, instead of being FORCED to buy a portable, updated version. I feel so used and manipulated!!

I'm not getting my hopes up (1)

uofitorn (804157) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493354)

Just like the other Square/Enix games re-released, I assumed this one will be labeled "Advance" and yet will be so ridiculously easy as to make you want to stop playing two hours into it.

The same thing happened to Final Fantasy IV Advance, Final Fantasy V Advance, Final Fantasy VI Advance and Final Fantasy I & 2 Dawn of Souls.
I was so excited that I would be able to replay my experience in the original FFIII and I ended up terribly disappointed. I haven't gotten very far into any of the remakes.

However, I did purchase an M3 DS Real that lets me download an emulator onto my DS and play the original ROMs. Those are much more satisfying.

Re:I'm not getting my hopes up (4, Funny)

sqlrob (173498) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493566)

The same thing happened to Final Fantasy IV Advance, Final Fantasy V Advance, Final Fantasy VI Advance and Final Fantasy I & 2 Dawn of Souls.

Yeah, it's not like those were for the Gameboy Advanced or anything like that.

Re:I'm not getting my hopes up (2, Funny)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 6 years ago | (#23494692)

Just wait until he discovers Super Mario 64 and looks for the previous 63.

Re:I'm not getting my hopes up (1)

uofitorn (804157) | more than 6 years ago | (#23494886)

I was well aware they came out for the GB Advance. I thought the irony would be apparent though.

So no comment on how they were ridiculously dumbed down after being re-released?

Re:I'm not getting my hopes up (1)

sqlrob (173498) | more than 6 years ago | (#23495712)

I've only played Dawn of Souls (completed I, mostly through II), and never played the original to compare. I was into computer gaming when those came out and didn't have any consoles.

Re:I'm not getting my hopes up (1)

zerocool^ (112121) | more than 6 years ago | (#23496482)


I wholeheartedly disagree in the case of Final Fantasy VI / IIIUS.

The GBA version I found to be much harder than it is on SNES / Emulation. It really feels like gold is harder to come by, as well as the fact that some tricks (vanish+doom) that people relied on in the original have been "fixed", making it harder to (for instance) fight Intangir to gain experience while still in the World of Balance without doing a lot of level grinding. Plus, some of the boss fights have really been boosted (Vargas was difficult, even with a good bit of grinding ahead of time). And add to that the relative scarcity of gold with which to buy potions and tents and ethers with which to heal your party while inside a dungeon - I think it was a spectacular remake, and definitely more difficult.

~W

Huzzah! Dragon Quest! (1)

howlingfrog (211151) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493516)

I love (most of) the Final Fantasy games too, but Dragon (Warrior|Quest) has always seemed to expect more intelligence from the user. By comparison, FF games usually feel a bit like they're stuck in tutorial mode. DWIV was my favorite of the NES games, even though it was commercially a disaster in the US, and I know from the magic of emulation that DQV is even better. Hopefully this'll sell well enough that they really will remake DQV and DQVI, which were never released here at all.

Re:Huzzah! Dragon Quest! (1)

Creepy Crawler (680178) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493880)

I personally thought the chapter based setup was awesome, as it reminds me of a Chaucer story. However, where the series fails is where the first 3 were the Roto(Erdrick) trilogy, after that, was the Castle in the Sky. There was no real trilogy going on there, sadfully.

I want a multi-game story, either in sequential or "jumping around in time".

When I beat DW3, I found that I was the Erdrick. Just that alone finished both 1 and 2.

Re:Huzzah! Dragon Quest! (1)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 6 years ago | (#23493974)

AIUI, DQ 4-6 was the "Zenithian" trilogy. We just never got the full trilogy (until now, I hope. Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease)...

Only downside to the remakes instead of translated roms is that you can't use the emulator's save state feature to game the casino. :)

Re:Huzzah! Dragon Quest! (1)

Creepy Crawler (680178) | more than 6 years ago | (#23494460)

5 is completely translated, and 6 is "99%" translated. Both are very playable.

I've beat 1-7, and the only tie between 4-6 is there's a Castle in the Sky. There's no epic like the first 3 had..

Actually, it was "released' many months ago. (4, Informative)

RyanFenton (230700) | more than 6 years ago | (#23494830)

The Japanese Rom of the DS title had the complete English translation contained within it, minus a couple bits of the intro, and of some bonus content. The entire game was playable with a simple patch (google it) to the rom and a copy to a DS flash cart.

The conversion on the DS is a quite nice job, actually. It's definitely my favorite of the Dragon Quest series - classic simple Dragon Quest gameplay, with excellent characters, and a driving sense of progress that is a bit missing from the later games.

Ryan Fenton

Meh... (1)

Oxy the moron (770724) | more than 6 years ago | (#23495032)

I'm having trouble developing any sort of excitement about this at all. I loved the first three Dragon Quest/Warrior games, but the fourth just didn't have the same appeal to me. I think that was primarily due to the fact that it felt more like StarTropics than Dragon Quest.

Re:Meh... (1)

default luser (529332) | more than 6 years ago | (#23497186)

I dunno. I've beaten all of the first three DQ games, but I've never finished DQ4.

The thing that always bothered me about DQ4 was, after all the cool storylines and meeting the characters, they essentially become robots. Once they join your party, the development is almost nil, which changes the game flow significantly. Also, once you're dependent on the AI to control your party, the game feels shallow.

I'd like it if they'd made AI combat an OPTION, but unfortunately it's mandatory, and it sucks. Hmmm, somehow I'm not at all excited about this release.

Re:Meh... (1)

Creepy Crawler (680178) | more than 6 years ago | (#23501796)

If you play via an emulator, or have a Game Genie, the following will DISABLE the AI on the 5'th quest.

YYEXVTGE

I have the cartridge (yeah, the real one) with lv99 on every character, and the ai gave me fits to no end. That code solves any stupidness ai issues once and for all (except people like hector and panon and likes).

Re:Meh... (1)

gblues (90260) | more than 6 years ago | (#23502276)

Well, that'll be an option in the remake. The NES version forced AI for the supporting characters because with the AI off, the game became unbelievably broken. I suspect they probably hit a time crunch and simply didn't have enough time to balance the 5th chapter, so they put in the perma-AI.

I was able to beat it back in the day, even with the crummy AI. You just had to know what attacks were most common in each AI script and change the AI mode accordingly, then hope for the best. :)

Re:Meh... (1)

default luser (529332) | more than 6 years ago | (#23505814)

Really? That's awesome! I might actually buy this, then.

I remember every time I tried to play DQ4, I'd zoom through the first four chapters, but once I got to the clunky party in the fifth...meh.

Re:Meh... (1)

Creepy Crawler (680178) | more than 6 years ago | (#23508718)

Yea, I know the ways around the AI..

If you train the AI well (die to bosses with AI using failed strategies), it does learn. I use a party of Hero, Ragnar, Alena, Cristo for all my gaming.

However, if you use the GG code to disable the AI, a mage strike force of Hero, Cristo, Mara, Brey kicks ass. However, the AI screws this up severely..

Yes!! (1)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | more than 6 years ago | (#23498492)

Best game EVER!
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