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Review of HTC's X7510 Advantage Smartphone

timothy posted more than 6 years ago | from the cool-little-device dept.

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An anonymous reader writes " has posted a review of HTC's new X7510 Advantage smartphone. It is technically a smartphone, but looks more like a small laptop since it has a 5" VGA touchscreen display. Other features include tri-band HDSPA 3G data, a 3 megapixel auto-focus camera, a magnetically attached QWERTY keyboard, and a full-blown Opera 9 web browser. It can even be hooked up to a TV or external monitor/projector."

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eat my shorts slashdot !! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23507132)

Eat my shorts slashdot !!

But... does it make phone calls? (1)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507152)

Not to be funny or troll, but honestly -- this seems to do a whole bunch of things, but I can't imagine that it does any of them particularly well. Then again, I don't even use all the features on my verizon-locked motrolola krazer. It least it fits nicely in my pocket.

Re:But... does it make phone calls? (1)

ForestGrump (644805) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507348)

Yes, it does make phone calls. However, I can't imagine holding something that sized to your ear for 30 minutes would be comfortable. Guess it's strictly bluetooth calls then.

Re:But... does it make phone calls? (0)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507422)

great, so i have to walk around with this huge bulge in my pocket, with people either thinking I'm homeless and talking to myself, or that I just rolled Elton John for his ear piece, depending on what angle they are viewing me from?

No thank you.

Re:But... does it make phone calls? (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507836)

Could be worse, you could be talking to your shoe [] .

Re:But... does it make phone calls? (2, Funny)

ForestGrump (644805) | more than 6 years ago | (#23508400)

Reminds me of this old joke. Probably first heard it 14 years ago (when I was 14ish)

Bill Gates, Andy Grove, & Jerry sanders (CEOs of Microsoft, Intel & AMD) were in a high-powered business meeting. During the serious, tense discussions, a beeping noise was suddenly emitted from where Bill was sitting.

Bill said : "Oh! that's my emergency beeper. Gentlemen, excuse me, I really need to take this call.: So Bill lifted his wrist-watch to his ear and began talking into the end of his tie. Having completed the call, he noticed the others were staring at him. So Bill explained : "Oh, this is my new emergency communication system. I have an earpiece built into my watch and a microphone sewn into the end of my tie. That way, I can take a call anywhere." The others nodded, and the meeting continued.

5 min later, the discussion was again interrupted when this time round, from Andy started a beeping sound. "Oh that's my emergency beeper" he said. "Excuse me gentlemen, this must be an important call." Andy tapped his earlobe and began talking into thin air. When he completed the call, he noticed the others staring at him and thus explained, "I also have an emergency communication system. But my earpiece is actually implanted in my earlobe, and the microphone is embedded in this fake tooth, isn't that neat?"

The others nodded and the meeting continue.jerry was however feeling that how technically unadvanced he is. Later still, the discussion was again interrupted when he emitted a thunderous fart. He looked up at the others staring at him and said, "Uhh, somebody get me a piece of paper..... I'm receiving a FAX."

Re:But... does it make phone calls? (2, Interesting)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 6 years ago | (#23508306)

I'd rather have a Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 []

Looks about the same size as an iPhone but it has a foldout qwerty keyboard and HSDPA. It has Wifi too. Oh and unlike the iPhone it has microSDHC slot which allows for cards upto 32GB, though only 8GB cards currently exist [] . Still 8GB is a lot of music or media files. And they only cost about US$50 [] . I can use WinamPAQ on the X1.

The display is much higher resolution than an iPhone too, 800*480 [] instead of 320*480 [] .

Safari works ok on my iPod touch, so I think Opera on an X1 would be quite usable. And with a flat rate HSDPA Sim I could use it anywhere, not just in places that have Wifi. Skype works on Windows Mobile too, so I can use it as a VOIP phone. It has a camera and a light too, both key features. And I can use it as an bluetooth HSDPA modem with a laptop. All in a package smaller than the iPod touch.

Re:But... does it make phone calls? (1)

toleraen (831634) | more than 6 years ago | (#23511584)

HTC is the OEM for the X1 too, which I'm happy about. HTC's manufacturing is usually pretty solid.

Re:But... does it make phone calls? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23513756)

HTC is the OEM for the X1 too, which I'm happy about. HTC's manufacturing is usually pretty solid.
Actually the X1 is something of an experiment for Sony Ericsson. Up to now all their phones have used Ericsson chips and OS and Sony industrial design and applications. And they were manufactured by Sony Ericsson and used either an Ericsson OS or Symbian. This chip uses Qualcomm chips and Windows Mobile and is manufactured by HTC. The only Sony Ericsson part is the industrial design and maybe the UI design - all of the real engineering has been outsourced.

Re:But... does it make phone calls? (1)

Z00L00K (682162) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507440)

Well - seems to be a nice device for some but it seems to be too expensive.

And I miss one thing on modern smartphones that I had on my old Palm m505 - a lid that can cover the display. I want the display to be protected when it's in my pocket, not only for fear of cracking it, but sometimes the phone may wake up on an event and enable the touchscreen, and if the phone is in the pocket you can end up dialing whoever/whatever...

Re:But... does it make phone calls? (1)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507478)

and if the phone is in the pocket you can end up dialing whoever/whatever...
That happened to my dad once a couple of years ago (not a smart phone, one of those older Sony-Erikson non-folding phones)... only it happened to dial 911 while he was at the gun range shooting pistols.

Re:But... does it make phone calls? (1)

mr_mischief (456295) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507682)

Your dad should find a movie or TV producer through a good agent. That story could be really funny on screen. Sorry for his ordeal, but it could be hilarious on, say, "Reno! 911" and he might as well make a few bucks on it.

I can't keep track of all the times someone's sat down, shifted in their seat, or bumped into someone and I got a call from them with random background noise. That's bad enough. Calling 911 with gunfire in the background, well, that's a whole different level.

Re:But... does it make phone calls? (1)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507768)

He didn't know it happened. However, when he was taking a break, he got a phone call back from them asking if everything was OK. Frankly, I'm surprised that they didn't send out cops -- probably the GPS location was for the gun club (nra certified range, lots of cops are members) and so they figured it was some sort of accident.

Still, I would think they have a legal obligation to actually go check something like that out.

Re:But... does it make phone calls? (1)

jayspec462 (609781) | more than 6 years ago | (#23508070)

His response when the police called back:

Uh, everything's under control. Situation normal. Uh, we had a slight weapons malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?

Re:But... does it make phone calls? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23518350)

Oh come on mods .. it's Star Wars!

Re:But... does it make phone calls? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23507490)

I want to say something quick, but don't know what. So what? I will write down something which I think says a lot, without saying anything at all. Let me say something, then contradict myself, and contradict again. I just hope I don't say something really foolish in the end to ruin it.

Early poster glory awaits!!

Re:But... does it make phone calls? (1)

SeanJC (1294132) | more than 6 years ago | (#23518476)

I agree. It looks quite cool but when something tries to be all things to all men, it normally fail in some areas.

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Welp, it's already slashdotted! (1)

rhartness (993048) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507172)

Quick, and hard...

Re:Welp, it's already slashdotted! (2, Informative)

fishdan (569872) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507302)

Not quite a mirror, but you can read about it on Engadget []

Re:Welp, it's already slashdotted! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23509534)

Screw engaget

Can't imagine this will be a successful product (4, Insightful)

TheRedSeven (1234758) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507212)

$1000 for a beefed-up, over-sized smartphone? Unlikely. For this price, I can get a Blackberry Curve and a Eee PC.

I can bet this thing will almost certainly flop when it comes to market. Heck, even the US rebate check isn't enough to cover the cost of one of these!

Re:This is v2.5 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23507498)

Athena/Advantage. Used to come with a - get this - 8 GB hard disk. Then in v2 that was 8 GB Flash card and soon after what it has today in v2.5. The margins are huge on these so selling a "few" still reaps big returns.

Re:Can't imagine this will be a successful product (1)

dunkelfalke (91624) | more than 6 years ago | (#23508084)

and you will have to walk around carrying two devices instead of one.

Re:Can't imagine this will be a successful product (2, Insightful)

mr_mischief (456295) | more than 6 years ago | (#23508640)

One of those two weighs about twice what this thing does and is much larger.

13.2 oz for the device + 3.7 oz for the keyboard = 16.9 oz, or 1 lb, 0.9 oz.
(375 g + 104 g = 479 g).

The Eee PC 701 weighs in at 895 g (1 lb 15½ oz) for the 2G Surf or 920 g (2 lb ½ oz) for the 4G and 8G models.

This thing is almost a modern replacement for the Psion palmtops, but they had better keyboards.

Re:Can't imagine this will be a successful product (1)

p0tat03 (985078) | more than 6 years ago | (#23511454)

I can also carrying a mp3 player, cell phone, rolodex of my contacts, portable DVD player, Eee PC, alarm clock, and camera at all times, instead of just getting a modern phone.

Convergence is worth money. GOOD convergence is worth a LOT of money.

Whats the battery life? (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507224)

Whats the battery life?

Text of Article (4, Informative)

TheRedSeven (1234758) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507266)

Review of HTCâ(TM)s X7510 Advantage

By Michael Oryl â May 21, 2008

The HTC X7510 Advantage is a hard device to label. Technically it is a smartphone, because it runs the Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional OS and has the ability to make voice calls. But the fact that calls can only be made with the built-in speakerphone or a headset hint at the fact that it was not designed primarily as a voice device. Its size drives the point home even further, since it weighs as much as 3 normal sized smartphones at 375g (13.2oz). Thatâ(TM)s a lot of hardware, no question.

So what is the Advantage? It is a media and data-centric device that also happens to make calls. Think of it as one part smartphone, one part laptop, and a dash of media player voodoo for good measure. Its 134mm x 98mm x 20.5mm (5.3â x 3.9â x .8â) size without the keyboard means it is pocketable, but only barely. Compared to a laptop computer, though, the Advantage will run for hours without a charge (300 hours of standby, 5-6 hours of talk time) and can be easily toted around. And it can make that emergency phone call if you need it to.

The X7510â(TM)s large 5â VGA resolution touchscreen display is great for web browsing or video watching. The included Opera 9 browser makes the most of the huge touchscreen, allowing users to scroll with a finger or stylus and double tap to zoom in or out. It is a true laptop-like browsing experience, though perhaps a bit less zippy at times.

The zip factor depends largely on how the Advantage is getting its connectivity. On WiFi or an HDSPA 3G network (850/1900/2100MHz), it is pretty quick. HSDPA can provide 1000Kbps data downloads, while WiFi can double that as long as the X7510â(TM)s 624MHz processor and generous 128MB of RAM arenâ(TM)t juggling too many other tasks. If there is no high speed data available, youâ(TM)ll be stuck with quad-band GSM/EDGE support and sub-100Kbps download speeds. That might not be awe inspiring, but it will keep you in touch with the world. it is worth mentioning that the Opera 9 browser appears to ignore the WiFi connection if the WiFi system was enabled after Opera was already running, which is unlike how the Pocket IE and other apps behave.

Of course there is more to a device like the Advantage than just downloading web pages. Sometimes you need to give back a little. To that end, Advantage users can create and edit Word, Excel, and OneNote documents, and view PowerPoint presentations. To get the most of such abilities, though, you need more than the Windows Mobile on-screen QWERTY keyboard. Thatâ(TM)s where the X7510â(TM)s 104g (3.7oz) detachable keyboard comes in. It connects to the main body of the Advantage through a few brass contacts, and the keyboard is held in place with a pretty strong magnet. I am always surprised at how easy it is to get the keyboard into position - it just wants to go to the right place on its own.

Compared to the earlier Advantages, the keyboard that comes with the X7510 is quite different. For starters, the keys are molded into the top membrane of the keyboard (think Atari 400 for those of you old enough to remember back that far). There are ridges that separate each key, and a soft click and accompanying vibration greet each key press. It seems that the sound itself is somehow causing the haptic vibration, and as such there is no way to get the reassuring vibration feedback when the keyboard sound is muted. The click might be annoying to others when in a quiet room, but when there is any kind of ambient noise around at all, nobody will be the wiser.

Like all Windows Mobile smartphones, the X7510 Advantage supports over the air synchronization of email, contacts, tasks, and calendar appointments when linked up to a Microsoft Exchange server. I use a hosted Exchange account for email, and I love having push email delivered to the Advantage. It supports other push email systems when loaded with the appropriate software, and can also be used with more traditional POP and IMAP based email servers. And with the keyboard in position, you can really blast through email in a way that most smartphones could only dream of.

In terms of media support, the X7510â(TM)s massive 16GB built-in flash drive will provide plenty of room for music and video tracks. Media can be copied over through an ActiveSync connection, or the X7510 can be linked up as a USB mass storage device, which is much faster. And if that 16MB of flash space just doesnâ(TM)t cut it, the Advantage can also support large capacity SDHC v2.0 miniSD flash cards, which can theoretically be built in sizes up to 2 terabytes, though sizes of 8GB or so are the most you will see typically today. In any case, once your X7510 is loaded up with videos and music, you can enjoy yourself with either a wired 3.5mm standard set of headphones or a pair of Bluetooth A2DP stereo headphones, whichever suits you.

One of the other things that that storage space can be used for is for storing photos shot with the X7510â(TM)s 3 megapixel, auto-focus camera. The camera take greats photos when outdoors - given half-decent lighting. When the lights go down or the action moves inside, though, things deteriorate quickly. The automatic white balance system in the X7510 does a very poor job in artificial lighting, and the camera overall does not deal with darker situations well at all. The night mode, which can be quickly activated with on-screen buttons, can produce some nasty effects in our experience. My advice, take the Advantage outdoors and let it shine, because you might be disappointed, one way or another, with the results of indoor photo sessions.

So what if, after all this, you still want to use the X7510 as a phone? Well, to do that you are probably going to want a wired or Bluetooth headset. And you are going to have to be able to live without a silent vibration alert. The built-in speakerphone works decently, but is just going to be too awkward for many situations. Iâ(TM)ve been using the X7510 with a Jabra JX20 headset for some time and have found it to be a good solution. Something particularly cool with this combination is that the JX20 can be charged by the X7510 when the included serial/USB/TV/VGA adapter is plugged in. This adapter provides a regular USB host port just as you would find on a laptop or desktop computer. Its a great way to make the most of the Advantageâ(TM)s large 2100mAh battery. I also used the adapter to view the Advantage on a 19â monitor, which is pretty impressive looking.

The X7510 runs the Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional operating system. The differences between 6.0 and 6.1 in the Professional (touchscreen) version are minimal. Apart from the threaded SMS support, few users will notice much of a change from the OS that ran on the prior version of the Advantage.

So what is wrong with the X7510? Well, since it has the raw capability, would it really have hurt to let people use it as a regular phone in a pinch, without a headset? It seems to me that this would have been a relatively minor tweak, though I imagine it was left out so as to position the Advantage as a non-voice device first and foremost - but I think it was a mistake. Also, the earlier Advantages had a joystick and an accelerometer that was used for automatically rotating the display and scrolling, both of which the X7510 lacks. The finger scrolling is fine for most tasks, but a hardware navigation device is always nice to have. I also feel that the touchscreen used on the X7510 is not as sensitive as it should be for a device that is meant to be used equally with a finger or a stylus. Lastly, on two occasions I had to reformat the internal 16GB flash drive because something had gone wrong, and in both cases I lost files that had been stored there.

But overall, I am really enjoying my time with the Advantage. It is not likely to be my every day device, due to its size, but I can certainly see where it would be great on business trips where I donâ(TM)t need a laptop to do photo processing. A device like the Advantage can offer me enough computing power to cover live press events and take care of issues back at the home office without the extra weight and bulk of a laptop. But with a price tag of well over US$1000, I feel few people are going to be willing to drop the required coin to pick up one of these gadgets. Add to that the fact that the device can not be sold in the U.S. due to some Qualcomm chipset issues, and well, it doesnâ(TM)t look like youâ(TM)ll be seeing an Advantage on every street corner any time soon.

But regardless, the Advantage is one of my favorite devices that have crossed my desk so far this year. Itâ(TM)s very different, maybe even a bit odd, but it is very cool none the less.

too big (4, Insightful)

loafula (1080631) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507412)

This product is way too big to be marketed as a smart phone. The concept behind the whole PDA/smartphone market is portability. Anything that cannot fit in my pocket does not fall into the portable category.....

Re:too big (1)

Scootin159 (557129) | more than 6 years ago | (#23508100)

No, but it makes a really great "ultraportable".

Re:too big (1)

delysid-x (18948) | more than 6 years ago | (#23533028)

why are your pants so tight? that'd slip just beautiful into my cargo shorts

Not Apple == Crap (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23507414)

No thanks.

Too bad for HTC the iPhone still rocks their world. It has a better OS (a complete copy of OS X, no less), it has a better screen, better interface, more applications, better browser with a better multi-touch interface, etc.

This HTC thing is obviously a "me too" attempt by HTC to try to catch up to where Apple was early last year. Too bad they have failed, I hope not too many people lose their jobs.

Think different. Think better. Think Apple!

Re:Not Apple == Crap (3, Insightful)

Achromatic1978 (916097) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507972)

The worst thing about Apple fanboys is that you never know whether they're trolling, or being honest (to their opinions)...

A third altogether possible option is that there is a significant union between both of the above sets.

How in the name of blue fuck does a handheld device with a fold-open screen and a full keyboard, no native 'traditional' phone mode even remotely represent someone trying to copy the (All Hail The Apparently Omnipotent) iPhone?

Re:Not Apple == Crap (2, Interesting)

SnapperHead (178050) | more than 6 years ago | (#23508756)

I will be up front and admit I am a fan boy. However, I have owned quite a large number of phones over the years. I tend to upgrade phones every 3 - 6 months, and I am a total geek when it comes to cool phones. After using the iPhone since launch day, it has been by far the most enjoyable experience I have ever had with a phone. I am not saying that lightly.

Yes, I have had to reboot it 3 times or so. But thats a drop in the bucket compared to other smart phones. A co-worker has a Windows Mobile phone that she has to reboot daily or it stops accepting incoming calls. I had a Treo 700p that required hard resets every 2 - 3 weeks and had Verizon replace the phone, 7 times (iirc).

HTC makes some cool stuff, but nothing interesting until Android is released.

Windows Mobile is a dying breed. The iPhone is here to stay, and I think Android is going to make a major dent when it comes along.

Re:Not Apple == Crap (1)

Achromatic1978 (916097) | more than 6 years ago | (#23508866)

Oh, I understand. Don't get me wrong, I don't think WM is amazing. In fact, I tried a couple of HTC phones, and whilst initially liking them, found the frustrations too much to put up with - I'm also a phone upgrader extraordinaire. I have only tried the iPhone for a few hours, and am willing to concede that many people claim it takes a few days to get into the habit of, but for me, for now, I'm happy with my Nokia N95. Also with its flaws and peccadilloes, but it does what I want, and well.

Re:Not Apple == Crap (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#23519920)

This HTC thing is obviously a "me too" attempt by HTC to try to catch up to where Apple was early last year.
If you want to see where HTC was a month before the iPhone release, see the HTC Touch, released in early June 2007. Unlike iPhone, it actually lets me put the software I want on it without having to break firmware. And I know that you're thinking, the app store will be around soon, but, I can put in any application I like, even if it's something Apple wouldn't approve of like a third party web browser, or a replacement for the default touch keyboard. And I can run industry standard J2ME applications.

Yes, Windows Mobile is kind of clunky, and it lacks some patented gestures like the pinch zoom. But I can actually replace the bits of it that I don't like, unlike certain offerings from Apple. And Windows Mobile 7, which will probably be out some time next year, will include some of Microsoft's patented gestures which Apple can't use either. (I really think it'd be a better world for everyone if the patents didn't exist, but that's another story.)


Aquaseafoam (1271478) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507494)

Am I the only one who sees a problem with a magnetically attached keyboard?


SparkEE (954461) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507740)

Am I the only one who sees a problem with a magnetically attached keyboard?
I hope you are, since the device uses flash memory.

It may be right to worry about putting your credit cards in the same pocket. Although, as large as it is, there wouldn't be any room left in your pocket.


amnezick (1253408) | more than 6 years ago | (#23508278)

i was thinking the same thing when i read about magnetic keyboard. i wonder how it will interfere with gsm signal? certainly it won't be a boost. i own an eten m700, it has sliding qwerty and is REASONABLE size and i need nothing more (except when new technology arrives will i feel the need to upgrade). when i was doing some before-buy research for pocketpc [that's portable pocketpc] and i saw one of these advantage on utube my first thought was: did he broke the keyboard and found a way to still use it? i'm rather clumsy so anything that comes with more than one piece best not come at all because the pieces will miss each other. my last thought is that anyone who can afford this is better off with a plain phone and a laptop. you get the bag, the looks, the usefulness of a laptop and the incredibly powerful signal of a simply black on green text phone with nothing but names and numbers in it.

It isn't a smartphone. (4, Insightful)

HerculesMO (693085) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507602)

It's a laptop with a "phone" feature.

Re:It isn't a smartphone. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23507906)

If it didn't have a gimp OS, maybe.

I currently own a Windows Mobile based smartphone. The two phones I've owned before it were Windows Mobile based as well. However, seeing a form factor like this with Windows Mobile makes me want to rip my hair out.

This form factor (more laptop than phone) should use a REAL OS.

Really, all they needed to do was license one of the many UMPCs that have already been made, throw on their own little touches, and sell it.

Re:It isn't a smartphone. (1)

teh kurisu (701097) | more than 6 years ago | (#23508222)

Spot on.

The 3G functionality in this device is there so that you can access the internet on the move. You'll be hard pressed to source a 3G chipset that won't do voice calls and SMS, so it makes sense for the manufacturer not to deliberately cripple the device by not providing this functionality.

Re:It isn't a smartphone. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23511880)

It might be cheaper to just have a regular Windows Mobile phone and buy a RedFly [] .

Re:It isn't a smartphone. (1)

mgblst (80109) | more than 6 years ago | (#23515438)

Except it doesn't come with a real OS, it comes with Windows Mobile. So it is not even a proper laptop.

Jack of all trades... (3, Insightful)

rarel (697734) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507616)

... master of none. Sure it's a nice gadget, but let's see, too big for a phone, won't fit in a pocket, and too small to be really practical as a "sublaptop", I don't see anyone working for hours on that keyboard. Fringe market, even in a professional settings. Only useful for showing off, I guess.

Hope it will run GNU/Linux (1)

Roman Mamedov (793802) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507666)

Like HTC's earlier similar product, the Universal [] , for which there are now several unofficial GNU/Linux distributions, including even a way to run a Debian port almost unmodified [] . However, there is no cooperation from the vendor at all, so if you want to support a company which invests in Free Software, better check out Nokia n800/n810 or that OpenMoko phone.

e-book (1)

Lord Apathy (584315) | more than 6 years ago | (#23507780)

If it didn't cost your soul and left nut it might have been a nice ebook reader. No thanks. I'll keep my nokia, T5, and nikon for all that it does.

Re:e-book (1)

paradoxSpirit (1172919) | more than 6 years ago | (#23508604)

"If it didn't cost your soul"

So a soul is worth $1000? That market went same way as the real estate

Re:e-book (2, Funny)

Lord Apathy (584315) | more than 6 years ago | (#23508726)

So a soul is worth $1000?

Soul is an abstract concept. It might or it might not exist so there for it could be priceless or worth nothing. Now my left nut on the other hand, well I'm kind of attached to that.

Video Reviews (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23508086)

It is interesting that all of these reviewers own a camcorder and review tons of high tech gadgets, presumably for a salary, on a consistant basis. Why do none of them ever use a tripod?

Pretty useless (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23508128)

I stopped reading the article after the first sentence. Who in the hell would actually want a Windows Mobile device. They are the most unstable, poor performing, ugly UI phones on the planet. (Next to Verizon's mods of course)

Pitty about the OS though (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23508162)

It runs Windows Mobile, the least reliable operating system ever made. It will probably reboot during phone calls like my Dopod 838 Pro does every day. And I bet using the data connection for any length of time causes it to loose network ability until it's rebooted again.

Now, if it were running XP Embedded or even full blown XP, I'd want one. But seriously, Windows Mobile is useless for anything other than jotting down notes. And even then sooner or later it will want to be hard-reset and you will lose them. :/

Re:Pitty about the OS though (1)

mr_mischief (456295) | more than 6 years ago | (#23508712)

I'd prefer it run Symbian, and preferably have the old Psion real keyed keyboard. Maybe PalmOS would be alright. One of the mobile Linux efforts should be good, too. I don't want to run XP on a 624 Mhz processor with 128 MB of memory. I'd actually prefer Windows Mobile to running XP on a system like that.

This seems familiar... (1)

hyperz69 (1226464) | more than 6 years ago | (#23508420)

EEEPC with a Data Card? Seems the remind me more of that then a cell phone. Not saying it's bad thing though. I never could get too much into the smart phone thing. Ever new phone I get breaks faster then the last. Personally I miss my Nokia 5180... cause man that thing could place calls, had a basic calculator and that was about it. But if an H-bomb went off, it would still make and receive calls! God I am old ;~(

Voice calls only with a headset (2, Insightful)

CambodiaSam (1153015) | more than 6 years ago | (#23508972)

The author states:

"So what is wrong with the X7510? Well, since it has the raw capability, would it really have hurt to let people use it as a regular phone in a pinch, without a headset? It seems to me that this would have been a relatively minor tweak, though I imagine it was left out so as to position the Advantage as a non-voice device first and foremost - but I think it was a mistake."

It seems the manufacturer has answered the question of "What is it?" in a way, by requiring a second piece of equipment to effectively use the phone part.

Unimpressive specifications (1)

dgmsu (1294104) | more than 6 years ago | (#23509940)

The HTC X7510 has specifications that seem to limit its market. The weight is an issue when holding the phone up unless a bluetooth headset is used. The size of it doesn't allow it be carried in pocket. The 3 megapixel camera is not powerful enough to compete with competitor's higher resolutions. The WIFI is not always useful in rural areas. The keyboard is not efficient and overlaps the handwriting recognizing technology.

Re:Unimpressive specifications (1)

dgmsu (1294104) | more than 6 years ago | (#23510244)

Oh... and the iphone has opera too.

Re:Unimpressive specifications (1)

k-vuohi (973009) | more than 6 years ago | (#23512252)

Just to comment on the whole camera resolution thing: Choosing not to stuff all the pixels in the world on a sensor the size of a single cell organism is a rare call worth applauding these days. Seems like people are really starting to fall for the marketing BS of resolution meaning increased picture quality.

N810 with WiMAX (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23510164)

Why not look at the Nokia N810 with WiMAX instead. They have almost identical features and the N810 is Linux based. I have the standard N810 and love it. GPS, Bluetooth, memory slot, Wifi and a keyboard with a nice 800x480 screen, mozilla browser supporting flash 9, skype for calling (or other similar voip progs work), along with full media capabilities and such. This is one of those, why spend twice as much when the N810 does more already. You can pick up the Nokia off Ebay for about 300-350 too. I would definately go with the N810 for the keyboard myself, and an external portable bluetooth keyboard is a nice add on for when you want to have a mobile platform that is easier to do email and stuff with.

Re:N810 with WiMAX (1)

dunkelfalke (91624) | more than 6 years ago | (#23510540)

because n810 is not a phone. it is very convinient to have a pim and an address book in a device which can make phone calls.

actually not as useful as its predecessor (1)

oPless (63249) | more than 6 years ago | (#23510258)

Because they removed the control key.
Lack of a control and escape key makes this potentially useful device annoyingly limited (for me)

I have a T-Mobile Ameo, and I love it ... though battery life is a wee bit limited with a BT headset and email polling and a blast of mp3 to/from work

Re:actually not as useful as its predecessor (1)

Urthwhyte (967114) | more than 6 years ago | (#23512166)

This is just an upgrade to the Ameo...

This was me reading the review just now: (3, Funny)

Qbertino (265505) | more than 6 years ago | (#23511106)

Oh, look, nice picture.
"The HTC X7510 Advantage is a hard device to label. Technically it is a smartphone, because it runs the Windows Mobile 6.1 Profes ..." *click* (closes the tab)

Eh... (1)

sub7 (187049) | more than 6 years ago | (#23513768)

Another "neat" but not impressive device.

I wonder who honestly wants to view Windows Mobile on a full-size monitor?
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