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Consumer Reports Gets Its Game On

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the mainstreaming-of-a-subculture dept.

Media 301

Itninja writes "A few days ago Consumer Reports posted their first report on a specific video game: Wii Fit. From the article: 'Our testers ranged in age from 24 to 69 and included 10 women and five men. Users ran the gamut from regular exercisers to mostly sedentary folks.' Will this be a harbinger of things to come? Will CR be reviewing the next installment of Gran Turismo?"

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bueller? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23559793)

no first post? where is everyone?

n = 15 (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23559797)

That's a small sample size. How much of a gamut can you really run with only 15 people?

Re:n = 15 (5, Funny)

Trigun (685027) | more than 6 years ago | (#23559821)

Obviously a 1-15 person gamut. Anything else would require more gamut-runners.

Re:n = 15 (5, Insightful)

Kingrames (858416) | more than 6 years ago | (#23559871)

When was the last time you saw 15 people testing a game to write a review, rather than just one?

Re:n = 15 (4, Funny)

Null537 (772236) | more than 6 years ago | (#23561013)

Hell, that's 15 more people than usually test a finished project for most gaming sites.

Re:n = 15 (1)

edittard (805475) | more than 6 years ago | (#23561225)

It's also 15 more than the slashdot proofreaders and dupe checkers.

Put together.

Re:n = 15 (1)

chitokutai (758566) | more than 6 years ago | (#23559957)

The worst part is the selection of ages chosen by Consumer Reports. It's up in the air whether this is a good way to exercise, but what I'm more curious to find out is how well the Wii Fit is dealing with the weight of children under 15. Apparently the device is using BMI to judge how fit a person is, and already we are seeing complaints [dailymail.co.uk] by parents that the Wii Fit is calling their children fat. It would have been great if CR had addressed this issue.

Re:n = 15 (4, Insightful)

Intron (870560) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560097)

Which issue? The idiocy of using BMI for anything or the overprotective parents?

Re:n = 15 (2, Insightful)

mark72005 (1233572) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560343)

or the issue that for the $400 you spend on a wii plus this game you could pay for a gym membership for at least a year and make a lot more difference in your condition

Re:n = 15 (5, Funny)

haystor (102186) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560431)

For $200, I'll provide you with a map so you too can find your way "outside" and view it in all its glory.

Re:n = 15 (1)

mark72005 (1233572) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560699)

d00d, the point is that the wii fit will magically get you in shape without you having to do anything strenuous

Re:n = 15 (5, Insightful)

HiVizDiver (640486) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560773)

I agree 100% with your sentiment - people need to get their asses off the couch and exercise. However, a gym membership can bring a lot of unwanted baggage. They can be full of inconsiderate dickheads (wipe your sweat off the equipment, jackass), let alone the fact that a lot of people just starting out in a gym probably don't feel comfortable showing off their (lack of) prowess/fitness/ability/whatever to complete strangers. Add to that the often brutal membership requirements of most name-brand gyms, and its pretty off-putting to all but the most hardcore fitness buffs.

So two things come to mind when I think about this situation: a) the Wii might fit a nice gap in at least getting people off the couch and moving around. For some true couch potatoes, this might be enough and sufficient for at least a little while. b) Find a small local gym that isn't full of morons and doesn't charge brutal contract fees. They're all over, they want your business, and you're doing yourself and "the little guy" a favor.

Re:n = 15 (1)

drsquare (530038) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560747)

No, the idiocy of reading the Daily Mail.

Re:n = 15 (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560167)

Boohoo. It's about time someone started telling the little fatties the truth instead of feeding them the nonsense like "you're not fat, you're just big boned". I did find this quote in the linked story to be hilarious:

"She is solidly built but not fat. She was devastated to be called fat and we had to work hard to convince her she isn't.
"Solidly built". LOL. Good euphemism there.

Re:n = 15 (1)

Altus (1034) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560619)


I prefer "Built for Comfort"

Re:n = 15 (1)

MarkGriz (520778) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560679)

Or, to quote Garfield (the cat, not the president)

"I'm not overweight, I'm undertall"

Re:n = 15 (1)

Sancho (17056) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560697)

It's impossible to say without more information on this person's build, but the BMI really is outdated and using it as an indicator of health fails to consider many factors. You can logically deduce this just by looking at what the BMI is--it's weight divided by (height)^2.

Muscle is more dense than fat. Someone who is 6 feet tall with a lot of fat could have the same BMI as someone who is 6 feet tall, lean, and muscular. No one would accuse the latter of being out of shape--except for someone only using BMI as their measure.

Maybe the child you were referring to was actually fat. Maybe not. Childhood obesity is definitely increasing, but why assume the worst in a particular case without a lot of actual facts?

Re:n = 15 (1)

Orange Crush (934731) | more than 6 years ago | (#23561087)

Boohoo. It's about time someone started telling the little fatties the truth instead of feeding them the nonsense like "you're not fat, you're just big boned". I did find this quote in the linked story to be hilarious

The problem is that it's basing this on BMI, a factor of weight and height which is horribly innacurate for determining anything about body composition. Fat, muscle, bone and retained water are all treated the same. So it's hardly a case of "telling the little fatties the truth" and more of damaging a young girl's already weak self-image who may be driven to starve herself or worse to obtain a better "grade" amongst her peers. This is supposed to be Wii Fit, not Wii Eating Disorder.

Re:n = 15 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23560675)

The dailymail article says 4'9" and 6 stone (84 lbs), giving a bmi of 18.2 which is underweight. Typical inept 'journalism'.

Re:n = 15 (1)

Mikkeles (698461) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560007)

Well, it does read: '...and included 10 women and five men.' My first question on seeing this was: What else did it include? Some rats as a control group? Maybe they mean 'consisted of'.

Re:n = 15 (1)

Mike Buddha (10734) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560093)

Considering the "gamut" for most reviews == 1, I'd say they're way ahead of the curve already.

Re:n = 15 (1)

Dishevel (1105119) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560977)

You seem to be forgetting about all the hermaphrodites in the test.

Wow... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23559813)

I can't wait to get my 'Wii' all fit and ready!

Wee Fit (0, Flamebait)

writerjosh (862522) | more than 6 years ago | (#23559819)

I think it's obvious to anyone with common sense that this Wii Fit can hardly be considered a workout. On one hand, I commend Nintendo for at least attempting to get people off the couch, but it's only a half-a$$ed attempt. It's kind of like McDonald's offering salads to their menu so they can call themselves a "responsible" fast-food joint. Will Nintendo now say they are a "responsible" video game company? It's too little too late.

Besides, after the buzz wears down, anyone doing these "exercises" will quickly discover there are no results to be had, and the balancing board will end up in the closet with the rest of the rubber bands, abdominizors, and exercises dvds.

Perhaps a better alternative would be to attach electrodes to the player's butt and give them a shock every time they miss. That would keep couch potatoes on their toes. ;)

Re:Wee Fit (3, Insightful)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 6 years ago | (#23559849)

Yeah, because it is Nintendo's responsibility to keep me thin.

Keep clamoring for corporations to take responsibility for my behavior, and watch our individual rights continue to erode.

Re:Wee Fit (4, Interesting)

Kingrames (858416) | more than 6 years ago | (#23559925)

When McDonald's serves salad, I worry about what's in it.

But when Nintendo makes a workout game, I have no such hesitation. perhaps because I know it won't kill me. Perhaps because they have a nice track record. Perhaps because there are other video games known to give a nice workout.

Your pessimism really doesn't apply here.

Re:Wee Fit (1)

jonnythan (79727) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560475)

Offtopic, but those McDonald's salads are very good. A grilled chicken salad with balsamic vinegarette dressing isn't even 300 calories, but very filling and quite tasty.

Re:Wee Fit (2, Informative)

Sancho (17056) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560915)

Calories aren't the only thing that matter. The chicken on that salad has lots of sodium (depending upon which salad you're talking about, the salad+chicken can have up to 960mg.) The salad dressing has another 700mg or so. That's per serving--I don't know how many servings you get per order.

I can't figure out which salad you're talking about, anyway. Every non-ceasar salad with chicken has at least 260 calories per serving, plus another 40 from the dressing (again, always assuming 1 serving of each). Maybe you didn't include the dressing when you were reading on the salad's nutritional information?

Citation:
http://www.mcdonalds.com/app_controller.nutrition.index1.html [mcdonalds.com]

The salads may taste good, but that doesn't mean that they're good for you.

McDonald's salad (1)

ionymous (1216224) | more than 6 years ago | (#23561165)

Getting sick/injured from a McDonald's salad could be the best thing that ever happens to you.

I'm sure they've already incorporated the cost of lawsuit settlements into the cost.

Come on! It's the American way!

Re:Wee Fit (1)

kericr (1172199) | more than 6 years ago | (#23559927)

When the mainstream press talks about the Wii fit in this light, I can't help but think about the revolution that was made by the same mainstream media when gamers started talking about their weight-loss and cardiovascular improvements after feeding their life-savings into their local arcade's Dance Dance Revolution machine. The difference in my eyes though, is that Wii Fit is not going to make you look like you're in the midst of an epileptic seisure, thus probably isn't as effective.

Re:Wee Fit (4, Insightful)

cowscows (103644) | more than 6 years ago | (#23559939)

I don't think Nintendo is trying to be a "responsible" game company, in the sense that I don't think they feel that they have to somehow atone for the fact that there are fat kids out there. I think they're more interested in making money, and one of the ways they've chosen to do that is by releasing new types of games that appeal to a wider market than video games traditionally had. Their strategy seems to be working quite well.

Sure, playing WiiFit isn't as strenuous as swimming laps, but if you're up and moving at all, you're getting more exercise than you would be sitting on a couch. I think the bigger problem with a lot of exercise routines has less to do with the fact that you don't get results and more to do with the fact that exercising is hard work and usually not particularly fun.

If someone finds WiiFit to be a good time, they'll probably keep playing it until it stops being fun. And in the meantime, they'll get a little bit more exercise than they used to. No harm done. I don't think you'll see any currently fit people giving up their habit of running three miles every morning and just playing WiiFit instead.

Re:Wee Fit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23560587)

and one of the ways they've chosen to do that is by releasing new types of games that appeal to a wider market than video games traditionally had. Their strategy seems to be working quite well.

My completely non technical in-laws in their early 60's just bought a Wii for themselves. The last time either of them bought or played anything that resembled a video game was Pong about 30 years ago. They wanted a Wii because "it looks like fun".

Re:Wee Fit (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#23559981)

Does anyone else have a mother with a attic completely FILLED with these exercise machines? It's like a graveyard of broken dreams that she keeps carrying around from house to house, always in need of a bigger attic.

Re:Wee Fit (1)

nizo (81281) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560465)

Yeah, but how many of those exercise machines can you play video games on?

Re:Wee Fit (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23560037)

I thought the same thing. Have you actually used this yet? A co-worker of mine said that 15 minutes of certain exercises on the Fit actually winded him a little. And, no, he's not overweight. He's about 5'10", 160lbs, average-to-slim build.

Re:Wee Fit (2, Informative)

Altus (1034) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560689)


I found the boxing in Wii sports to be a light impact cardio work out. Im usually a touch winded after a couple of fights. I wouldnt call it a work out but its a lot more interactive than Mike Tysons Punch Out.

have you ever used a balancing board? (5, Interesting)

deft (253558) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560047)

I used one to come back from physical therapy after a fighting injury (i do mixed martial arts).

It is a HELL of a workout of your leg muscles, and VERY effective. The workout I get fromt hat is comprable to doing wall sits which are a staple of my boxing class every night.... and your quads get a tremendous burn.

Unless the wii balancing board is somehow deficient, you'd sure as hell get a nice workout.

after i went through therapy with a balancing board, i bought one for home traning the next month.

Re:have you ever used a balancing board? (4, Funny)

deft (253558) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560225)

dear lord, i just saw it.... thats no balance board... thats a fricken scale.

balance board in real traning is awesome... i apoligize for not researching the wii "board" before posting.

Re:Wee Fit (5, Interesting)

ergo98 (9391) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560053)

I think it's obvious to anyone with common sense that this Wii Fit can hardly be considered a workout.

Why do you feel the need to mention it, out of curiosity?

Wii Fit is a completely reasonable "workout" of balance and flexibility, and even for very moderate workouts for people who are otherwise sedentary (and there are a lot of those people, though they're probably sitting at their computer writing about how Wii Fit isn't a real workout because they see everything as a binary full-on-workout, or nothing).

Steps and other basic activities aren't going to replace the gym for someone who is actually into fitness, but it's better than nothing for people who have limited activity.

And one of the best elements of the Wii is the simplest element of all -- weigh-ins with time plotted tracking. It's simplistic, relying upon the lame BMI scale, not taking into account muscularity and other variables, however again for a normal everyday person seeing an accurate graph of their weight when they occasionally weigh into their Wii can be a very powerful input.

It's kind of like McDonald's

Analogies are like a dog with a tail growing out of its nose. Kind of like the planet Mars with annuity insurance.

Nintendo's whole angle with the Wii has been whole-body gameplay that is their "gimmick" instead of the traditional thumbs only. This is an obvious continuation of that. Like Wii Sports, the included game (Wii Fit) isn't the most incredible demonstration of the board, but it gets the units out there.

Besides, after the buzz wears down, anyone doing these "exercises" will quickly discover there are no results to be had, and the balancing board will end up in the closet with the rest of the rubber bands, abdominizors, and exercises dvds.

There are over a dozen balance-board-using games in development, and of course it launched with Wii Ski. It's another input controller (one with amazing potential...and it's bluetooth, and could be used with a compatible PC bluetooth stack), and Wii Fit is one use of it. I certainly don't think very many people are going to stick with their Wii Fit regiment ,just as they don't stick with any regiment, but if they at least weigh in on occasion before hopping into a game of Mario Balance, then that's better than nothing.

MOD UP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23560349)

I bought the Wii Fit pack largely because I wanted to play We Ski, and there's a cool snowboarding game coming out shortly. Things like that give it longevity. I wouldn't have bought it just for the Fit thing.

Wii Sports Experiment (4, Informative)

WiglyWorm (1139035) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560201)

If you're going to say that Wii Fit is not a work out I'd point you at the Wii Sports Experiment [wiinintendo.net] . For six weeks this guy played Wii Sports agressively and lost 9 pounds. Is that a lot? No. But it did take him from a BMI of "overweight" to "normal". I can't imagine something that gets your whole body in to the workout while providing you with motivation (BMI and weight tracking) could be anything but more effective. Even if only slightly.

Re:Wii Sports Experiment (1)

wbav (223901) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560893)

More appropriately, the Great WiiFit Experiment [4colorrebellion.com] seems to correlate with WiiFit building proper habits when exercising. I mean removing 10.8 lbs in 7 weeks is quite impressive.

Re:Wii Sports Experiment (4, Insightful)

m.ducharme (1082683) | more than 6 years ago | (#23561135)

9 pounds in 6 weeks is A LOT...most non-quack diet and exercise regimens instruct you to expect between 1 and 3 pounds a month weight loss as being health.

Re:Wee Fit (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560245)

Wii fit is effective, and results do show (look at any of the extended reviews).

It is not anything that couldn't been done without it (probably even more effectively), but is does elevate heart rate, which means calories are being burnt vs sitting on your ass.

The Yoga part is actually quite awesome, and is something that is clearly enhanced by the balance board (some of the strength training greatly benefits too, but not as much).

If I feel muscle ache the next day, and it raises my heart rate while I do it, how is it not a workout?

Re:Wee Fit (4, Insightful)

vux984 (928602) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560247)

I think it's obvious to anyone with common sense that this Wii Fit can hardly be considered a workout.

Is yoga a 'workout'? Is pilates a 'workout'? If you consider that to be a part of your workout routine, then the Fit is a part of that. And if it accomplishes the same thing as working along with a yoga/pilates video and is more fun, then that would be a win.

Nobody is saying that a Wii fit is a replacement for cardio, or weight training. But it may well be a perfectly legitimate to compliment yoga/ pilates/ and stretching exercises.

Besides, after the buzz wears down, anyone doing these "exercises" will quickly discover there are no results to be had, and the balancing board will end up in the closet with the rest of the rubber bands, abdominizors, and exercises dvds.

Unless its engaging and fun. Which a lot of people think it is, and who will play it regardless of whether they get 'results' or not.

And no matter how you spin it, its better for you than sitting on the couch.

So while Wii fit may not melt fat off, at least its not part of the problem.

Re:Wee Fit (2, Interesting)

berashith (222128) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560263)

strangely, after trying to give this a real effort and running through many of the exercises daily, I actually do feel a slight difference. Not just common sense, but real experience speaking here. Is it the same as riding a bike or playing soccer, no. It does meet a useful niche though. Forcing odd balance and repetitions does work you core , and lunges and such do work your large butt and thigh muscles. This leads to calorie burn. I have truly been hungry all week since I got this.

Not perfect, not a gym , but quite useful.

Re:Wee Fit (1)

Artifakt (700173) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560469)

I started using one. I run and lift weights, and no, it's not likely to give me either strength or cardiovascular benefits. But, I needed to work on my balance despite overall fitness, and it's been a fun way to fix that. You can be able to run 5 miles at a time, and still not be able to stand on one foot for more than a few seconds without wobbling. A little guiding the bubble down river or thwacking soccer balls with your head is good for shoring up weak spots.
      What else? Rainy Day fitness - it can do enough for even a seriously fit person to get a light workout, on those days when the weather is bad, or you're just getting over the flu, or you're really pressed for time. Probably not enough to keep you from slipping back if you have lots of bad training days, but enough to get you through an occasional one.

Re:Wee Fit (1)

99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560297)

I think it's obvious to anyone with common sense that this Wii Fit can hardly be considered a workout.

I don't think that is obvious at all. Compared to aerobic step based exercise programs offered by many gyms or compared to DDR why would anyone assume this is less of a workout?

On one hand, I commend Nintendo for at least attempting to get people off the couch, but it's only a half-a$$ed attempt.

I'd say this is about as much of a workout as one could expect from any video game console. That is not to say it is the best activity for people looking to lose weight, but it is pretty decent compared to people looking at playing video games based off of any other input device.

Besides, after the buzz wears down, anyone doing these "exercises" will quickly discover there are no results to be had, and the balancing board will end up in the closet with the rest of the rubber bands, abdominizors, and exercises dvds.

I think you missed the point. This doesn't belong in the same category because it is not an exercise device, it is a game input device. Rather it will likely stay next to the TV along with or replacing many people's DDR pads. There certainly are plenty of people who still play DDR regularly.

Perhaps a better alternative would be to attach electrodes to the player's butt and give them a shock every time they miss.

There are already feedback devices for games that provide a mild shock, but I don't think they have gained any ground in the US. In nay case, I think you're mischaracterizing the Wii Fit. The primary purpose is to allow for developers to create fun games (skateboarding, dance dance, etc.). Any physical fitness benefits are secondary, although not necessarily insignificant. Some K-12 schools have DDR setups now and maybe they'll have Wii Fit setups in the next 5 years or so. bet kids prefer it to running laps around the gym all winter.

Re:Wee Fit (2)

HappySqurriel (1010623) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560375)

If you want to lose a decent ammount of weight all you need to do is put on 2.5 lbs of muscle (150 extra calories burned per day), eat 150 less calories than you need to maintain your current body weight (without considering excercise), and burn an additional 150 calories per day; this works out to a grand total of 450 calories more burned per day than you're currently taking in.

Wii Fit may not turn you into a body builder but its weight training program should be able to help you put on 2.5lbs of muscle, its aerobics program may not be nearly as good as jogging but it should be able to help you burn 150 calories per day, and if you cut down on sugar/cream in your coffee (or start drinking diet pop) you should easily be able to cut out 150 calories per day.

Basically, Wii Fit may not be much of a workout but it is all you (probably) really need.

Re:Wee Fit (1)

fprintf (82740) | more than 6 years ago | (#23561029)

Great suggestions until you got to the part about the diet pop. Have you seen how many fatties order up huge meals and then have a diet coke to go with it? I have heard, though perhaps it is non-peer reviewed urban legend, that diet soda does more to retain weight than the high fructose corn syrup stuff.

Re:Wee Fit (5, Interesting)

lpangelrob (714473) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560389)

Since your post makes it painfully obvious that you haven't used Wii Fit at all, I'll post about my actual experience, and then people can comment.

After 30 minutes of actual activity on Wii Fit, I am sore. I am also pretty fat (32.xx BMI, and I'm not an athlete, so that's pretty accurate). The game charts your progress (based on BMI, and as a relative percentage) every day, which is quite useful.

The game places an emphasis (peculiar, at first, I have to admit) on balance. This is for a few reasons. The Balance Board is the game's only input, but it can tell where your center of balance is (and what your weight is) very well. The game doesn't come with any weights for additional resistance, so any resistance your muscles would work against is directly related to your body position.

Finally, the emphasis on balance seems to be firmly rooted in eastern culture. I mean, I can't really think of why it's so important to have *exactly* 50.0% of my weight on my left foot, and 50.0% of my weight on my right foot, and right now, that goal seems impossible.

Where the game succeeds best is, as is noted in the CR review, is in the balance games. Some people can exercise without the additional benefit of visual stimulation -- they enjoy varying degrees of pain or short-term uncomfortability for the hope of long-term progress. I am not one of them. So this is a big boon to me. And these exercises are not of the Wii Sports variety, either; whereas that game would just give you tennis elbow, in Wii Fit you're fighting yourself while trying to head soccer balls or being the human Super Monkey Ball. (Fighting yourself. How very eastern.)

Most importantly, the game makes sense to anyone who hasn't touched a controller. It's straightforward in the way Nintendo has made all of their games in the Wii generation, so that everyone can use it. This alone will be why Wii Fit should outsell Gran Turismo by at least a factor of 2-3 : 1.

I don't exercise nearly as often as I should. I also don't think this game will be the start of a sweeping change in our culture (where everyone walks swinging their arms as much as possible to improve their posture). But it's a big step forward in getting the interactive part of exercise to the home, without having to resort to video tapes or DVDs (no feedback in terms of balance), Bally's (image conscious?) or personal trainers (far more expensive than $90).

Re:Wee Fit (2)

Rydia (556444) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560971)

Balance is also important in a "real" exercise routine to ensure muscles are worked evenly. A good example is weight machines- if your balance is very bad, you will not be able to use the machine properly, and you may end up injuring yourself.

Re:Wee Fit (1)

ilsie (227381) | more than 6 years ago | (#23561067)

I would venture to say that you have not used a Wii Fit yet if you're saying it's not a workout. I train and run marathons, and yesterday I decided to try out my Wii Fit in lieu of a cross training workout. The strength and yoga portions are not easy, for sure, and definitely gave me a really good core workout.

Really? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23559835)

Is there really anyone that groups Wii Fit in with Gran Turismo? One is a video game, the other is a gadget for attempting to change life styles. Just the fact that it is only playable on the Wii is irrelevant. CR is not reviewing video games, and they didn't review this game for graphics or how fun it is. They reviewed for its purpose: did people lose weight?

Re:Really? (1)

InsaneProcessor (869563) | more than 6 years ago | (#23561203)

Wii is a consumer product. Gran Turismo is not. The hard core gamer is a small, tiny, largely insignificant number of the consumer market. Sort of like grouping Porsche owners as a significant portion of the car buying market.

I welcome CR (5, Interesting)

jsnipy (913480) | more than 6 years ago | (#23559857)

I think it would be good to have more unbiased reviews. But I only think they did this because the wii fit is touching on the arena of exercise equipment.

Re:I welcome CR (1)

urcreepyneighbor (1171755) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560151)

CR is unbiased - or, at least, as close as humanly possible.

Re:I welcome CR (1)

ThinkTwicePostOnce (1001392) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560935)

I'm sure it's the fitness tie-in too.

The day Consumer Reports starts reviewing games like Gran Tourismo or Grand Theft Auto for "how much fun" they are to play is the day they start reviewing brands of cigarettes for which ones "taste the best" to smoke.

I just got my deuce on (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23559859)

dropped a big old stanky deutchmark

Ladies, I now know what childbirth is like, and I can sympathize. This thing crowned, and I was like "damn, I could use an epidural and a rectal-episiotomy". Ouch. Luckily -- through controlled breathing and focus -- the monster just slid out of my gaping hole.

Consumer Gamespot Reports (3, Interesting)

Recovering Hater (833107) | more than 6 years ago | (#23559863)

Will CR be reviewing the next installment of Gran Turismo?

NO.

Wii fit can be good... (4, Insightful)

hyperz69 (1226464) | more than 6 years ago | (#23559899)

I agree with this report. In short it explains that Wii fit is good if you need motivation to get off the couch. It is not for those who pull themselves outside or goto the gym and get physical already. It's target group though is over 50% of Americans... and a heavily growing European segment.

Wii Fit Parody (1)

TypoNAM (695420) | more than 6 years ago | (#23559903)

Reminds me of this Wii Fit parody [youtube.com] .

:)

Again (1)

MikeyG79 (225212) | more than 6 years ago | (#23559933)

Maybe this is a way for CR to get companies to stop selling stuff in the US again.

Can't wait for the "Unsatisfactory" rating (-1, Troll)

R2.0 (532027) | more than 6 years ago | (#23559941)

Where they discover that the Wii remote can slip out of your hand, and then proceed to throw it at the TV as hard as they can. They repeat about 20 times until the TV tube shatters, and then send out a press release demanding a government recall.

Re:Can't wait for the "Unsatisfactory" rating (2, Insightful)

hey! (33014) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560365)

Wow, you actually feel oppressed by Consumer Reports.

I will say that sometimes they do miss some important points when they deal with specialized products. I remember once seeing a review of bicyles that included a braking distance rating -- just like for cars. Well, all the bikes in the price range they were testing probably used the same or very similar Japanese component sets on rims of the same alloy. Any remaining difference in stopping distance would be determined by (in order): adjustment, rider technique, net weight, rotational mass (wheel weight). So there's not much to be gained for a serious rider looking at braking distance.

Also, there is the matter of comfort. The two most comfortable seats I've ever had were unpadded. One was a classic leather seat, the other was a plain, hard plastic shell. I never found that adding padding made the seat more comfortable, in fact quite the contrary. I found padding cut off the circulation after an hour or so in the saddle.

But that particular observation is not valid for somebody who takes his bike out for an hour or two a dozen or so times a year. If you ride on the order of a hundred miles or more per week, what you find comfortable is different.

Likewise, tire differences might make a difference in braking for a weekend rider, who is more likely to brake without adjusting his weight distribution, and thus is more likely to skid.

What I'm getting at is that if you aren't the kind of person who as a more specialized source of consumer information, the CR reports are probably fairly useful.

Re:Can't wait for the "Unsatisfactory" rating (1)

R2.0 (532027) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560729)

"Wow, you actually feel oppressed by Consumer Reports."

Huh? How did you get that?

I was a CU subscriber for many years, and most of their product reviews - mainly for consumer products - are very useful. But after a while, I got the strong impression that they had an agenda beyond providing unbiased information. It is clear that their editorial staff believes that the government and corporations have no purpose other than to fuck people over. OK, fine. But the Suzuki fiasco showed that the editorial bias had gotten well into the review process itself. Although CU was found not liable for their "review" of the Samurai, the evidence presented permanently damaged their credibility, putting them in the same league as 60 Minutes and Dateline.

Wii Fit IS NOT LIKE Gran Turismo... (2, Interesting)

BobMcD (601576) | more than 6 years ago | (#23559985)

...and this isn't an accident. Nintendo's Blue Ocean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Ocean) named 'Wii' is decisively different, as evidenced by the fact that Consumer Reports is covering Wii Fit.

This isn't your typical game (2, Informative)

brokeninside (34168) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560039)

From fad diets to late night infomercial exercise devices, Consumers Union has a long history of testing out exactly this sort of thing.

That would be aweomse (2, Interesting)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560045)

I've grown thoroughly disgusted with the usual pattern of game reviews.

Previews: Holy shit, glowing reviews, the game is better than blowjobs and bacon sammiches combined!

Reviews: Walking the fine line between placating advertisers and telling the truth. Reviewers who bite the hand that feed them soon go hungry. So even the most disappointingly middling hash job gets a gentleman's C.

If we get the money out of the review process and really see some honesty... well, I don't know if we'll get better games but I do know it will honk off more suits and that's almost as enjoyable.

Re:That would be aweomse (4, Informative)

99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560417)

Reviews: Walking the fine line between placating advertisers and telling the truth. Reviewers who bite the hand that feed them soon go hungry. So even the most disappointingly middling hash job gets a gentleman's C.

Then you should applaud Consumer Reports entering the gaming review market. They don't have any advertising and don't have anyone to please but subscribers. They even refuse to take donated equipment for reviews because of cherry picking and anonymously buy their gear through regular retail channels.

If we get the money out of the review process and really see some honesty...

There is one ad on the page with the article. It is for a subscription to Consumer Reports. If you really want the money out of the process, go subscribe. I think it is well worth it for their great, independent assessments of cars, electronics, computer hardware, etc. Without a subscription, for example, I'd never have known Dell has brought their laptop line from near the bottom of the heap to near the top (just under the premium vendors) within just the last year.

If you want people to review things impartially with your interests in mind, pay them already. Otherwise, feel free to put up with reviews that are closer to PR releases

No, CR will not review Gran Turismo. (4, Interesting)

igotmybfg (525391) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560101)

I find it telling that not only did CR review the game, but that the composition of their sample group had a giant gaping hole in it - the young male. Not only that, it includes twice as many women as men. This really shows you that Nintendo has executed their strategy - ignore the ritalin kids in favor of focusing on everybody else - brilliantly. They realized what Sony, and to an extent Microsoft, didn't - that games aren't fun because they run on the latest hardware and look photorealistic, rather, they're fun for the same reason anything else is - you can play with your friends and family. Yes, I know Microsoft has Xbox Live. Running around killing people isn't really a game you'd play with grandma though - but Wii Tennis is (I have and she loved it). So no, I don't think CR will review Gran Turismo... but I'd bet money that they'll review the next big family hit on the Wii.

CR will review Gran Turismo if ... (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560193)

... it uses the Wii fit controller?

That could really lend to a sense of realism previously lacking in racing games. Or maybe just a new sense of vertigo...

Re:No, CR will not review Gran Turismo. (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560907)

Running around killing people isn't really a game you'd play with grandma though

What if your grandma is a sociopath?

Re:No, CR will not review Gran Turismo. (1)

Jogar the Barbarian (5830) | more than 6 years ago | (#23561193)

I play City of Heroes with my 63-year-old mom (who is a grandmother twice over). She's logged over 550 hours of playtime with one toon.

That said, I don't *think* she's a sociapath...

Ughh... (1)

stewbacca (1033764) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560139)

Consumer Reports is not a good source for video game reviews because they take the subjectivity out of their reviews. Video-gaming is very subjective and it will be impossible for CR to capture the nuances and evaluate them with any effect. This goes for ANYTHING that people have passion for. While CR does good, unbiased reports on the boring everyday items such as blenders and vacuum cleaners, their car reviews are awful and hold no water except with people who like to drive cars that have no soul...same goes for any video game review they'll attempt.

Re:Ughh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23560241)

their car reviews are awful and hold no water except with people who like to drive cars that have no soul
Is that sorta like how the news is full of repeated drivel so that most of the people who watch it like it?

Or is it sorta how half the population is below average and advertisers cater to them?

Re:Ughh... (1)

SydShamino (547793) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560467)

I can get the feel for the "soul" for a car by looking at it, sitting in it, and driving it. I get the unbiased review of experts and a fair polling of quality and risk from Consumer Reports.

Buying a car without the first might seem silly to you, but buying a car without the second seems downright dangerous to me.

Re:Ughh... (2)

lpangelrob (714473) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560525)

While CR does good, unbiased reports on the boring everyday items such as blenders and vacuum cleaners, their car reviews are awful and hold no water except with people who like to drive cars that have no soul...

Disclaimer: I use CR for most things. That said, I've seen people use crappy stuff. Maybe a blender has no soul (believe me, I don't derive enjoyment from driving my Civic, but that's because I use it primarily as a tool to get from point A to point B) but I *do* feel good when it "just works". As opposed to other blenders I've owned that don't blend, or blend very crappily.

The reason that Wii Fit is being reviewed is because it is passing itself off as a piece of exercise equipment, not (primarily) because it's a video game. CR happens to review exercise equipment.

Re:Ughh... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23560557)

Hey! Have you seen the movie Christine? I prefer my car without a soul, thank you! More seriously, since I'm not someone into "cool" things, to me a car has no more "soul" than a vacuum cleaner, so I don't know what you are talking about.

As for video game reviews, since about every review I read now are amateur journalism at best, I think CR would be a lot better for that too.

consumers find fake 'weather' intolerable; report (-1, Troll)

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Consumer Reports Sucks (1)

Bryansix (761547) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560453)

Yes they are not biased. Yes, they don't get paid off (from what we can tell). They do still sell advertising space so that's a conflict of interest. The reason CR sucks though it that their reach is too far to produce any real usable information and reviews. Any company that tries to review washing machines to Digital Cameras; Cars to the Wii Fit, will have trouble getting people knowledgeable enough in the subject area to write the article. I noticed this several times in their car reviews and their digital camera reviews. Too often they just speak from inexperience in that field.

Re:Consumer Reports Sucks (2, Insightful)

99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560711)

They do still sell advertising space so that's a conflict of interest.

They do? Where? There are no ads accompanying the article and I don't see them on any of the reviews I've looked at.

The reason CR sucks though it that their reach is too far to produce any real usable information and reviews.

I've found their reviews very useful and their expertise in affordable testing procedures carries from products to product. They provide fairly useful reviews from a normal person's perspective, with some product lines being reviewed by experts as well.

You say Consumer Reports sucks.. well maybe so, unless you compare them to every other company out there. They're pretty much the most reliable source of unbiased, professionally written reviews out there. Even for unprofessional reviews you have to deal with astroturf (more and more common) and with people trying to justify their purchase, by excusing problems or by villainizing the company because of a bad experience. Consumer Reports is better than anyone else I've seen. Who, exactly, is more trustworthy and useful in your opinion and why do you think that?

Re:Consumer Reports Sucks (1)

Bryansix (761547) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560833)

Well take my example of Digital Cameras. http://www.dpreview.com/ [dpreview.com] is much more informed and not biased at all and very professional.

The point is no one place reviews all these things because to do so is madness. Still individual publications out write CR in every field they cover. This is because they specialize which is a good thing.

Re:Consumer Reports Sucks (1)

vapspwi (634069) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560849)

I don't read CR a lot, but I'll occasionally thumb through it when I'm shopping for something. The impression that I get is that you don't get very deep, technical information in their reviews - they seem to focus on price, build quality, and feature set. That's probably a better approach for washing machines than for digital cameras. They provide good general information for novices, and following their advice won't steer you wrong, but they probably aren't all that useful for power users.

JRjr

Anyone actually TRY this? (4, Interesting)

OiBoy (22100) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560455)

I see a lot of people complaining that it's not a REAL workout, or it's just a gimmick. Knowing that the Wii Fit is sold out almost everywhere, how many of you have actually tried it?
I own a Wii Fit. I've been using it for 5 days now. Not a workout, my ass! Maybe if you only do the balance games, or maybe if you only consider a workout to be doing weightlifting. I've been doing the cardio games (Hula Hoop, Stepping, Running), and I end each session out of breath and sweating. No, a single 2 minute stepping series on the starter level doesn't wear me out. 30 minutes of rotating between the 3 exercises in the more advanced mode (which you only get after having done them for 30 minutes...I think. Regardless, they are an unlockable you wouldn't see the first time you tried) will have your heart rate up just as effectively as the same amount of time on your average exercise bike or elliptical trainer.
Would I lose any more weight if I drove 30 minutes to the nearest gym, paid the equivelent of a used car payment in membership fees every month, and used machines covered in somebody else's sweat? I doubt it. More importantly, I wouldn't bother, so I wouldn'get get ANY exercise. Walking into my living room and turning on the TV seems to have a much lower barrier to entry, so I can't easily make excuses for why I can't work out today.

Re:Anyone actually TRY this? (1)

427_ci_505 (1009677) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560605)

I end each session out of breath and sweating.

But you're a slashdot reader.

Re:Anyone actually TRY this? (2, Insightful)

trdrstv (986999) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560875)

I see a lot of people complaining that it's not a REAL workout, or it's just a gimmick. Knowing that the Wii Fit is sold out almost everywhere, how many of you have actually tried it?

In general that's a criticism of something many people throw blindly at the Wii or Guitar Hero, or Rock Band simply because they don't understand it. They're quick to criticize and say "Why don't you just play [real] tennis, play a [real] guitar, or shoot a [real] Nazi?" and they miss the entire point.

In general however, I can understand if people think Wii Fit isn't a workout. Some people may either beyond the point where the exercises are on the easy side of what they are used to, or they are of the apathetic side that doesn't put much into it and walks away too soon. This being slashdot, my money's on the latter.

You will get out of it, what you put into it and if someone steps on the board and does 10 minutes or less of exercise then they won't feel anything.

So far my largest complaints aren't of the board or the game, it's the inability to chain exercises or set up a schedule. I'd like to set up routines that go seamlessly from one to the next like a routine to give me "30 minutes - Ab exercises" or "30 minutes - Cardio".

Re:Anyone actually TRY this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23561091)

I agree totally. Besides, I haven't found a gym with a "No Shirt, No Shorts, No Problem" philosophy. Cuts down on the laundry.

My Quick Wii Fit Review (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23560461)

I have had the opportunity to play with the Wii Fit for a few days now. I like it. The style is very much like Brain Age and other training games on the Nintendo platforms. Some of the Aerobics and Balance games are fun to play with other people. It isn't setup to be competitive, but if you rotate profiles it works fine. Unfortunately many of the games don't have enormous amounts of replay-ability. It isn't long before you master each one and need to move up in difficulty. After you've perfected each one they are kind of repetitive and it doesn't take many days to get very good. As for the workout aspect, some of the exercises can get you to break a sweat, but most of them won't. The running in place exercises definitely can if you really put yourself into it. Rhythm boxing is also pretty good. I didn't do much of the yoga and strength training exercises, but it looks like they would be effective if you actually followed along with them.

The use of BMI without any warnings about the flaws of BMI is a little disappointing, but generally it is accurate enough for average people. Still, it is good to be aware of what BMI is, and they don't do anything to help you understand that.

Overall, I like it. I'd give it a 7 out of 10. You can really use it to work on your fitness. It probably won't guide you to being a top tier athlete, but just to stay in a reasonable shape I have little doubt it could work. Like most things at first it will be great, and then you will likely grow tired of it. You have to keep using it to get results, and there is no magic there. Like anything else you only get out of it what you put in. It nicely tracks your weight and BMI over time and provides graphs so you can see your progress over time. At first the games are lots of fun, but after the novelty has worn off (like with Wii Sports) the fitness stuff will remain for those willing to take it seriously.

I'm looking forward to future games using the Wii balance board. There is a lot of potential there for some incredible gameplay.

Re:My Quick Wii Fit Review (1)

wbav (223901) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560613)

..snip..

The use of BMI without any warnings about the flaws of BMI is a little disappointing, but generally it is accurate enough for average people. Still, it is good to be aware of what BMI is, and they don't do anything to help you understand that.
..snip..
Didn't read the manual did ya? It specifically lists cases where BMI won't be accurate. (Children and athletes.) But I do agree that it is strange to put warnings in the manual (which over 50% of people don't read) for a game which is targeted at over 50% of the population.

As a side note, I found the scale to be wildly inaccurate. Apparently I could loose or gain over a pound by stepping off and back on again.

Re:My Quick Wii Fit Review (1)

Trolan (42526) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560989)

As a side note, I found the scale to be wildly inaccurate. Apparently I could loose or gain over a pound by stepping off and back on again.
Some of that's posture. If you're not pefectly centered on the pressure sensor, it probably won't quite read you right. The digital in my bathroom does the same thing. I'll usually do best of three to figure it out.

Re:My Quick Wii Fit Review (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23561031)

They actually claim it is more accurate than moth bathroom scales. I would guess +/- 2 pounds is probably within a normal bathroom scales range of accuracy. After eating a meal I know I weighed 1.8 pounds more. It seems like a lot. I guess I should have weighed my food and drink first. Otherwise I've found it to be fairly accurate. I'll accept a couple of pounds floating. If it was much more it would start to matter.

Short answer: no (3, Interesting)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560479)

"Will CR be reviewing the next installment of Gran Turismo?"

CR picking up on Wii Fit is less an indication of CR getting involved in game reviews and more an indication of the success of Nintendo at reaching out to non-gamers. By the blurb alone it's easy to see that they tested it not as a video game but as a physical fitness device.

So no, Consumer Reports will not be reviewing the next installment of Gran Tursimo, any more than they review the next movie or album.

Optional Balanace board ? (2, Informative)

trdrstv (986999) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560513)

Ok, I'm watching the video and apparently the woman doing the voice over wasn't one of the 15 people using Wii Fit as she called the balance board "optional". Sorry, but running in place is only so exciting, and it's the only game (that I have unlocked anyway) that doesn't require the board.

Re:Optional Balanace board ? (1)

vapspwi (634069) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560767)

I assumed that she meant that the balance board was an optional Wii accessory (that is, not something that comes with the Wii system), not that it was optional for Wii Fit.

JRjr

Re:Optional Balanace board ? (1)

trdrstv (986999) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560927)

I assumed that she meant that the balance board was an optional Wii accessory (that is, not something that comes with the Wii system), not that it was optional for Wii Fit.

Considering you can't buy the board separately, wouldn't that be like saying "WiiFit" itself is optional?

Re:Optional Balanace board ? (1)

vapspwi (634069) | more than 6 years ago | (#23561133)

You kind of have to take the whole thing with a grain of salt - she says the review is about the "Wii Fit game console" and then talks about how it has an "optional balance board" and a "hand control" [a Wiimote]. So the whole description is kind of a mess.

JRjr

Re:Optional Balanace board ? (1)

wbav (223901) | more than 6 years ago | (#23561153)

Well there are a few extra exercises which don't need the board, but you need the board to unlock them.

Nothing to do with games, but possible claims (1)

penguin_dance (536599) | more than 6 years ago | (#23560939)

I doubt CR is entering the gaming market, but only to test claims expressed or inferred that WiiFit is a viable exercise program.

Most game reviews are like book reviews, they're pretty subjective and it depends on the what you like, but there is a need for an unbiased look at a video game that's claiming to be a fitness product.

I disagree that you need a huge sample to test it out, just a diverse one. I suspect that while just about anything to get the couch potato off their butt would help, it's not going to be a subsitute for a regular workout or sending the kids out to play ball for a change.

aargh (1)

Tom (822) | more than 6 years ago | (#23561061)

Will CR be reviewing the next installment of Gran Turismo?"
No, they won't. You still don't get it, do you? While MS and Sony fought over who gets the bigger piece of cake of the gamer's market, Nintendo choose to make the cake larger. Quite a few of the titles you can get for the Wii are solidly on the borderline of what counts as a "game". Wii Fit is one of them. A few of the mini-games are just that, but the overall package just doesn't belong to the same category as Gran Turismo or Counterstrike or Halo.
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