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Bill Gates's Last Speech

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the complete-with-ballmer-bot dept.

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Ian Lamont writes "Bill Gates, in an address to the TechEd Developers conference, talked about Microsoft's plans for hosted services, and revealed that the company is planning data centers on 'a scale that we haven't thought of before' that will apparently enable the company to offer all of its server-based products over the Internet. The talk did not include details in terms of capacity or scale. This was Gates's final publicly scheduled speech as a full-time Microsoft employee, and he acknowledged that Microsoft's success is 'due to our relationship with developers.' On July 1, he will start spending most of his time at The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation." After that date he will be devoting his "20% time" to Microsoft.

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You will be missed bill (5, Funny)

Dragoonkain (704719) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645559)

You are a true American Hero

Re:You will be missed bill (4, Insightful)

Divebus (860563) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645665)

It's ironic but the natural choice for these massive data centers is to use free software - their own. And they're bewildered why everyone else wants to use free software. Hmmph.

Re:You will be missed bill (3, Informative)

dmgxmichael (1219692) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646319)

When it's your own dog food it is free.

Re:You will be missed bill (5, Insightful)

Penguinisto (415985) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645753)

Wow... that's some serious America-bashing mojo you've got going there. ;)



In all seriousness though - I think Bill got all he can get out of MSFT... the company is far from dead, but it ain't exactly the powerhouse it once was, when OEMs and most software devs trembled at the sound of the phrase: "Microsoft has announced that..."


The best time to leave is when your baby is still (in)famous, and strong enough to almost do whatever it pleases. Besides, once the public at large realizes that MSFT is indeed sliding downhill, they'll more easily blame Ballmer for it than they would even think to blame Bill, which leaves Bill's legacy intact.


From here on out, any further news will be tacked onto Ballmer's reputation, both inside and outside the tech community (even though most of us in the tech community already know who to blame/praise --depending on your viewpoint).

/P

Re:You will be missed bill (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645977)

Remember folks, Bill Gates was a strong part of OOXML. Bill Gates phoned French president Sarkozy and the American Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of Commerce, and the president of Mexico Felipe Calderón.

The taint of OOXML lies with Bill Gates. Don't forget.

Re:You will be missed bill (2, Insightful)

Serpentegena (991730) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646023)

I think the main point of failure was on the creative side of things. How do you knowingly continue to claim individuality after you've become a trend-follower instead of a trend-setter?? Even the managed services thing comes about a year after IBM already deployed a similar solution.

So far, Microsoft put the "sucks" in "success".
(Oh wow! Best.sig.ev4r.)

Re:You will be missed bill (0, Troll)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646145)

So far, Microsoft put the "sucks" in "success".
Isn't it "Microsoft put the succ in success?"

Re:You will be missed bill (0, Troll)

Serpentegena (991730) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646213)

Phonetical joke, seven-digiter.

Hey! What's one million minus 991730? (1, Insightful)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646293)

A: Only 8270.

Re:You will be missed bill (4, Funny)

Yaztromo (655250) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646311)

Isn't it "Microsoft put the succ in success?"

That's a bug that will eventually be fixed in SP1.

Yaz.

Re:You will be missed bill (1)

ISoldat53 (977164) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646015)

Nobody likes a poor thief.

Wow (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645563)

Wow, hi everybody.

Re:Wow (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23646115)

Hi, how are you my droog?

There building something (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645569)

they haven't thought of?

Re:There building something (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645609)

They are?

don't let the door (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645571)

hit you on the ass on the way out.

You won't be missed.

Re:don't let the door (4, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645633)

Ummm... actually Gates made MS a decent company, it wasn't until he let the chair-thrower Steve Ballmer take over the company that MS started to become really "evil". Now before they were just a software company that made crappy software, now we have MS as a software company that produces crappy software with DRM/Trusted Computing and just about everything else to make your computer become MS's and the government's computer (with a bit of it devoted to the *AA).

Re:don't let the door (5, Informative)

DaveM753 (844913) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645721)

it wasn't until he let the chair-thrower Steve Ballmer take over the company that MS started to become really "evil".


I disagree. I noticed MS being evil with the introduction of Windows 95, when the then-standard Word Perfect oddly didn't seem to run properly under Windows. Shortly thereafter came MSN and the introduction of the free Internet Explorer and the beginnings of Netscape's death. That was several years before Ballmer entered the picture.

Re:don't let the door (1, Interesting)

clang_jangle (975789) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645773)

Indeed, IIRC they even had an internal slogan -- "it's not done til Lotus won't run", or something like that.

Re:don't let the door (4, Funny)

Mongoose Disciple (722373) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646047)

Indeed, IIRC they even had an internal slogan -- "it's not done til Lotus won't run", or something like that.

If you've used Lotus, you'd know that's not evil. :)

Flamebait? (5, Informative)

zappepcs (820751) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646017)

Who modded that flamebait... and what are you smoking while you mod?

This is exactly how MS built the company into it megalithic existence. Lets see if we can name some software/companies that they killed off?

Digital Research, Word Perfect, Netscape, GEM, Paradox, oh screw it, we are all aware that the embrace and extend was MS speak for extinguish. There are products that never even made it to market thanks to MS (can you say tablet pc)

The point is that this is not flamebait. It counts as truthful comment.

Re:Flamebait? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23646251)

The point is that this is not flamebait. It counts as truthful comment.
Hence the reason it was modded flamebait.

Re:don't let the door (5, Funny)

aweraw (557447) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645831)

it wasn't until he let the chair-thrower Steve Ballmer take over the company that MS started to become really "evil".
No, not really... MS was just as evil back then, they were just more covert about it.

What changed with Ballmer coming in as CEO was that they became more brash about it. Have you heard of the "frog in boiling water" experiment? Gates was like that - slowly turning up the heat, then before you realize it, you're cooked. Ballmer is more like, first boil the pot of water while cackling maniacally and pointing at you, then pour it directly on your head.

Re:don't let the door (2, Interesting)

Maxo-Texas (864189) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645945)

Microsoft was evil under Dos.

"DOS ain't done, til Lotus won't Run" was *well* known back in the 80's in my user group.

Windows 95 did it all over again by certifying Word which cheated and used invalid API's.

So ends the era of Gates (5, Funny)

wal9001 (1041058) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645573)

From now on, Microsoft's success will be due to their relationship with developers, developers, developers, developers.

Ballmer Is All That Is Holding Back MSFT (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645791)

And with any non-utility or non-profit type public company that success is measured by stock growth.

Ballmer took over in 2001. MSFT's stock has been effectively dead in the water since that time:

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=MSFT#chart1:symbol=msft;range=my;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined

Ballmer has been a complete disaster:

* The 7 billion dollar Xbox fiasco
* The Zune/digital music failure
* The inability to change the Microsoft culture to deal with the new realities of the EU business climate
* The total failure to handle the Vista release competently
* Search/MSN floundering

If Microsoft gets a competent and visionary leader it could rapidly turn things around and dominate markets like crazy once Ballmer gets dumped.

Re:Ballmer Is All That Is Holding Back MSFT (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645893)

A new head of Microsoft would have a monumental amount of work to fix the company.

Step 1 - Kill off the Ballmer turds like Zune, Xbox, and maybe even search

Step 2 - Mass firings of everyone involved in those stinkers

Step 3 - A complete overhaul of the marketing, branding, and UI people

Step 4 - Wrap up everything DOS/Win32 into a virtual machine and move forward with a clean slate while still supporting the gargantuan DOS/Win32 legacy code out there

Step 5 - Start coming to terms with open source and open standards and figure out how Microsoft will fit in that type of world

Hell, why not go all the way and grab some BSD source and build on top of that with the DOS/Win32 stuff running in a VM on top of it.

Re:Ballmer Is All That Is Holding Back MSFT (4, Insightful)

lgw (121541) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646355)

Step 4 - Wrap up everything DOS/Win32 into a virtual machine and move forward with a clean slate while still supporting the gargantuan DOS/Win32 legacy code out there
That would be a fatal mistake. Well, the win32 part - 16 bit DOS apps don't run at all on 64-bit Windows. Win32 is simple and it works, and hasn't changed much in over a decade. It's the stable API you can really code against. It's not object oriented, but it's just not that hard to wrap it.

Win32 is often confused with the steaming pile of MS APIs on top of it: MFC, COM, etc. Those indeed need to be exiled to a virtualization layer. .NET is the attempt to introduce a new layer to replace MFC, COM, etc. The problem is, it isn't a useful replacement for win32, and you really need to be able to code against win32 from time to time (and of course .NET is built on top of win32, it's not technically a replacement for it).

Re:Ballmer Is All That Is Holding Back MSFT (5, Interesting)

jcr (53032) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645999)


MS has started their decline, just like IBM did before them. Even if they recruit the greatest CEO in the world, all he can do is stabilize them and maybe get 3-5% annual growth.

The question is though, is there a Lou Gerstner-level of executive talent out there who can turn Microsoft into an effective development organization? I don't think there is.

All that Ballmer is going to do is continue to piss away shareholders' money on his ego trip of the month club. He's desperate to show that MS's dominance isn't just from the sheer luck of catching IBM's fumble.

-jcr

Re:So ends the era of Gates (1)

Linux_ho (205887) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646035)

It's the wave of the future.

MS reliability (5, Funny)

xaxa (988988) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645579)

Five eights availability!

Re:MS reliability (2, Funny)

davester666 (731373) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645713)

5 out of every 8 days, their system is up.

Re:MS reliability (3, Funny)

flowsnake (1051494) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645739)

Heck, I'd settle for eight fives!

Re:MS reliability (1)

Serpentegena (991730) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646321)

Don't you mean nine fives [userfriendly.org] ?

Re:MS reliability (5, Funny)

eclectro (227083) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645907)

Imagine the size of the switch they're gonna need to reboot the data center!!

8.8888% (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645915)

> Five eights availability!

It's not so impressive when you realize that they actually mean 8.8888%

I am a MS Fanboy (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645585)

Has MS done anything innovative in the past few years? Since windows.. it just seems all they try to do is copy other products, pump millions into marketing and watch it fail. I don't think they've had a profitable product since XP. And the choice before that was ME so who wouldn't purchase it.

Even though we all flame MS.. why do we still use the products.. in our home, our office and on our phones. Only within the past 2 years have better alternatives come out.. iPhone and Firefox..

Flame away!

Re:I am a MS Fanboy (1, Interesting)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645659)

Even though we all flame MS.. why do we still use the products.. in our home, our office and on our phones


Err... All my computers have Linux installed as the primary OS and either use WINE to emulate any necessary Windows applications (which interestingly enough aren't made by MS). In most people's office they would rather be using Linux and free software but the people who outrank them (AKA: Those who don't have a clue what an operating system even is....) insist on spending money on MS's products to make the company look better and so the computer illiterate people don't have to learn anything.

Re:I am a MS Fanboy (0, Troll)

HermMunster (972336) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645851)

Microsoft has created absolutely no products that weren't copied or predicated on someone elses work. So, it isn't that it has been that way for the past few years. They have never during their whole history. I wish people would just look at Microsoft for what they are--a copycat. They are destined to failure because they have become such a behemoth that they are bound to collapse in on themselves.

Not only that, when you consider how much money these guys are hoarding everyone should be questioning whether we want more of the same mentality that goes into this form of hoarding. Can you imagine a man with a trillion dollars to his name while most of the rest of the world starves and all this trillionaire can do is tell countries that he'll help them as long as they commit to buying his products?

Re:I am a MS Fanboy (4, Interesting)

adona1 (1078711) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645897)

I was thinking about this the other day, and I honestly don't think MS can do much to be innovative and maintain their position in the market. Take Apple as an example - a few years back they were gasping for breath with a very small market share. They didn't have all that much to lose, and so were able to make a break with something new (OSX) and come up with something different.

Now, to put that against MS....they achieved a mindboggling share of the PC market, and were able to rest on their laurels for years. Now, they face competitors in a number of areas - OS, browsers, office suites - and their success is also what cripples them. They can't make a break with their software past the way Apple did, because if they do, they suddenly lose the connection with their established market. Think about it - if new MS products differ too radically from their old ones, or are completely incompatible etc, then suddenly the barrier between them and Linux/Apple etc is lowered dramatically. If you have to learn a new OS, for example, then there's as much chance of someone buying a shiny new Mac or picking up that free OS the kids are talking about as picking up the new MS OS and learning how to use it, not to mention the fact that MS and bugs/insecurity are a common perception...

So IMHO, they can have innovation or market share. Not both.

Re:I am a MS Fanboy (1)

grumling (94709) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645975)

You just described the innovator's dilemma.

Re:I am a MS Fanboy (1)

Bonobo_Unknown (925651) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646051)

of course selling turds of products never helps

Devil's advocate (2, Insightful)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646007)

No, no, no!

If you're going to play devil's advocate than you have to play up Microsoft's strengths. Say what you will about Office, but it dominates for reasons aside of lock-in.

And what about Surface [microsoft.com] ? I'd like to see the folks at apple come up with something as cool as that. There is a *nix variant, but it's not nearly as cool. And no, the puny widdle scween on the iPhone dosen't count! Sure, the cost of a Surface unit would be prohibitive to average Joe User but people may re-respect Microsoft if they get to play with a Surface coffee-table at their local Starbucks.

Disclaimer: I'm OS agnostic as long as all o' them are contribute to the idea pool.

Re:Devil's advocate (1)

theurge14 (820596) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646249)

"And what about Surface? I'd like to see the folks at apple come up with something as cool as that."

You say this, then you say

"Sure, the cost of a Surface unit would be prohibitive to average Joe User but..."

So you answered your own question.

But then you said:

"And no, the puny widdle scween on the iPhone dosen't count!"

Why not? How big of a phone do you need?

Re:Devil's advocate (0, Flamebait)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646327)

That's the point, pedant.

Leave the small-time to Apple, and go straight for the big-time. Let Apple handle the smaller, more personal flashy gadgets. MSFT has a lot more money so they can invest in bigger stuff like tabletop kiosks. Everybody wins, and Apple and MS don't stick their fingers in each other's pie. Also note that -- surprise, surprise! -- at this point the iPhone and Surface both have their debut in AT&T stores! IF MSFT were smart then they'd move on to other ventures and not be stuck in an exclusive contract with big brother -- err, AT&T.

If Microsoft blows this whole Surface thing, though, then it's safe to say that there's no hope left. Oh, and this is Slashdot, so *nix still has nothing to do with big brother! Let's hope that it stays user unfriendly(that's sarcasm, trigger-happy mods).

Really? (5, Funny)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645597)

On July 1, he will start spending most of his time at The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation." After that date he will be devoting his "20% time" to Microsoft.


Are you sure that that isn't just what he says he will be doing and he is really trying to become the Debian project leader?

Re:Really? (5, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645681)

Wow, the moderators must be really off today, I try for a +5 funny and end up with a -1 troll mod, whats next? A +5 insightful for this post?

Re:Really? (3, Funny)

Penguinisto (415985) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645801)

Before a post can be considered funny, it must have one of the following memes:



  • Beowulf clustering
  • Hot Grits and Natalie Portman (pref. naked and petrified)
  • The Soviet Union
  • Korean Old People

(and many, many more... none of which were in your post. Sorry.)

/P

Re:Really? (-1, Redundant)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646049)

I have a plan that involves the following steps:

1 - A Beowulf Cluster (naturally, it answers the question "will it run Linux?") dedicated to rendering hot grits on a naked Natalie Portman.

2 - In the Soviet Union, Natalie Portman renders you!

3 - This only makes sense to Korean Old People.

4 - ???

5 - Profit!

Re:Really? (-1, Flamebait)

His Shadow (689816) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645971)

Blame it on the Microputzes. For all their yakking about other OS supporters being cultists, the Microsftians can't help but adore Dear Leader Gates.

Re:Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23646265)

At least people read yours--I'll be lucky to get moderated at all. Oh how I long for even a modest +3.

Last? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645599)

Title seems a bit misleading. I thought he committed seppuku or something after he finished at first.
I can see it now. 'Well, sorry about Vista, hey, check this out!' SLICE!

Translations (3, Funny)

EmbeddedJanitor (597831) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645615)

Version 1) They have to be huge to run Vista and get the same response.

Version 2)Let's pump up MSFT. I'm selling some.

followed by.... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645619)

I'll be back

Re:followed by.... (2, Interesting)

FuturePastNow (836765) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645973)

I bet that 20% time to Microsoft will involve trotting him out for conferences and speeches. This isn't Bill's last speech by a long shot.

Re:followed by.... (1)

colmore (56499) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646267)

His last while his job is more than "spokesperson."

20% of time... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645651)

So on leap years, does he round up to 20.01%?

Definitely the Henry Ford of his era (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645671)

for right or for wrong

AH-HA! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645673)

...and revealed that the company is planning data centers on 'a scale that we haven't thought of before' that will apparently enable the company to offer all of its server-based products over the Internet.

So THAT's where the MSN Music Store servers went! Way to recycle, Microsoft. Go green!

Success (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645683)

Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers.

Just wait... (2, Funny)

PhantomHarlock (189617) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645691)

till one of these giant datacenters has an electrical fault like the one last weekend, and instead of 9,000 servers, it's 90,000 servers gone at once...

Re:Just wait... (2, Funny)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645757)

The difference being that the first datacenter wasn't taken down maliciously.

Re:Just wait... (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645889)

And that happens how often? And of course your office never loses power, or your home...

Its really not that big of a risk if you weigh all the issues..

Re:Just wait... (4, Informative)

aaarrrgggh (9205) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646097)

An outage in a data center over about 2.2MW is a major hassle to re-start. Over about 5MW can be a 48 hour effort. When you get into these 20+ MW facilities, it can easily take weeks to get everything back up and running.

When a facility is properly compartmentalized, it isn't nearly as bad-- redundancies and fail-over mechanisms can continue to maintain most of the system operation, and hopefully extra load can be shifted to another site.

The problem is that historically data centers don't have fires. (In contrast, telco switch facilities have them all the time.) Electrically when we get over about 10-20MW of UPS in a single structure data center, the complexity of systems and maintenance provisions greatly increases the risk of fire. From a raised floor perspective, when we get over 20kW per rack, we have seen a couple small fires (out of thousands-- don't get me wrong, it isn't a huge widespread problem). With these changes brought on by the "mega-centers," it takes a lot to improve (electrical) reliability for the site.

So, in my book, it isn't the fact that you shouldn't be prepared for a data center to go down some times, it is that there is more concentration of facilities and they are being done at a larger scale which will impact the reliability in a major way. We advise most of our clients to keep under 6MW for a data center, and go for multiple facilities geographically isolated for the extra capacity. That approach isn't always commercially viable, but it is makes for a better long-term investment.

20% time (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645759)

I hope the 80/20 principle doesn't apply here.

Innovation ProTip (3, Insightful)

mrbah (844007) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645775)

This can only reinforce my belief that the people at Microsoft have no ideas and no vision (whether they lost them or never had them to begin with, I'll leave to you) whatsoever. It almost makes me feel sorry for them to see them try so very hard to innovate. But ultimately they're just like the Chinese knock-off game console manufacturers, they see new products that are commercial successes and emulate them in every way but the one that counts. I liked Windows 2000, and I like Windows XP. Microsoft should stick to what they do best, not try to create the "next big thing".

Re:Innovation ProTip (3, Insightful)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645931)

Its not about technical innovation anymore, its about them following the money trail as the world changes.

Most everything today is incremental improvements, rarely does true innovation come along now. Where is the Woz when you need him?

And, just to clarify, i wont be leasing my processing power thank you very much.

Re:Innovation ProTip (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23646205)

"Where is the Woz"

Pointing a gun at your head for calling him THE Woz

Anonymous Coward (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645785)

So when is Slashdot going to change the Bill Gates/Borg image?

And why does this spell check not recognize the word Slashdot?

Re:Anonymous Coward (4, Funny)

Broken Toys (1198853) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646353)

If spell checking were a requirement, 98% of the Internet would be shut donw.

The Ballmer Bot (3, Funny)

D Ninja (825055) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645799)

I love the end of the article.

[Gates] welcomed onto the stage a Ph.D. candidate from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and the "Ballmer-bot," a robot made to imitate and act like Steve Ballmer, Microsoft's CEO and Gates' long-time business partner, who is not attending TechEd.

"Developers, developers, developers, developers," the robot, developed using Microsoft Robotics Developer Studio product, repeated over and over, in an homage to Ballmer's famous rant. The robot also raised his arm, showing how he has the ability to "throw eggs," according to the MIT student controlling his movements.
Throw eggs. Heh. Throw chairs is more like it.

Re:The Ballmer Bot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23646041)

It's Microsoft; I think you mean throw egg-ceptions.

Assholes (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645807)

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Re:Assholes (-1, Offtopic)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645843)

I have invented a new smiley :~~~~~

the colon cleanse.

Doomed To Failure (-1, Troll)

HermMunster (972336) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645815)

Microsoft isn't any good at anything and mostly they are not good at data. The end.

Who cares about Bill Gates. Good bye, and good riddens. I'd rather we had a world without his influences.

Take care of your charity, please don't predicate your charity on whether a country buys your products any more, and stay the hell out of the computer industry.

Microsoft's biggest problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645827)

is that they have old people in charge. Gates and Ozzie in particular, know in great detail what the big technical and business challenges were in the '80s and '90s, and earlier in this decade. But that's where we came from, not where we're headed.

When Gates wrote his first "visionary" best seller back in 1995, the Internet was exploding around him and he didn't even notice. Neither did the team developing Windows 95, as it turns out. They had to scramble and buy rights to a graphical browser from Spyglass to compete. And they got rights to the Mosaic source from UIUC, I think (that was a consequence the famous IP feud between the university and their former CS stars).

Back in the early- to mid-90s, IIRC the PC pundits were talking up the wonderful future of content on CD-ROMs, and streaming video delivered from a LAN server. And analog TV signals delivered to the desktop via expansion boards on the VESA or PCI bus.

Now, of course, Gates knows all about the Internet, probably more than most of us here, but I don't have any confidence in his ability to spot the next New New Thing.

I'm reminded of Ken Olsen's quote around the time the Macintosh first came out: "There is no reason why anyone would want a computer in their home." At least not in his experience!

former texas governor causes worldwide mayhem (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645859)

makes fuddles look like a boy scout. the lights are coming up all over now. conspiracy theorists are being vindicated. some might choose a tin umbrella to go with their hats. the fairytail is winding down now. let your conscience be yOUR guide. you can be more helpful than you might have imagined. there are still some choices. if they do not suit you, consider the likely results of continuing to follow the corepirate nazi hypenosys story LIEn, whereas anything of relevance is replaced almost instantly with pr ?firm? scriptdead mindphuking propaganda or 'celebrity' trivia 'foam'. meanwhile; don't forget to get a little more oxygen on yOUR brain, & look up in the sky from time to time, starting early in the day. there's lots going on up there.

http://news.google.com/?ncl=1216734813&hl=en&topic=n
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/31/opinion/31mon1.html?em&ex=1199336400&en=c4b5414371631707&ei=5087%0A
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/29/world/29amnesty.html?hp
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/02/nasa.global.warming.ap/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/weather/06/02/honore.preparedness/index.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/opinion/01dowd.html?em&ex=1212638400&en=744b7cebc86723e5&ei=5087%0A

is it time to get real yet? A LOT of energy is being squandered in attempts to keep US in the dark. in the end (give or take a few 1000 years), the creators will prevail (world without end, etc...), as it has always been. the process of gaining yOUR release from the current hostage situation may not be what you might think it is. butt of course, most of US don't know, or care what a precarious/fatal situation we're in. for example; the insidious attempts by the felonious corepirate nazi execrable to block the suns' light, interfering with a requirement (sunlight) for us to stay healthy/alive. it's likely not good for yOUR health/memories 'else they'd be bragging about it? we're intending for the whoreabully deceptive (they'll do ANYTHING for a bit more monIE/power) felons to give up/fail even further, in attempting to control the 'weather', as well as a # of other things/events.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=weather+manipulation&btnG=Search
http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=video+cloud+spraying

dictator style micro management has never worked (for very long). it's an illness. tie that with life0cidal aggression & softwar gangster style bullying, & what do we have? a greed/fear/ego based recipe for disaster. meanwhile, you can help to stop the bleeding (loss of life & limb);

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/28/vermont.banning.bush.ap/index.html

the bleeding must be stopped before any healing can begin. jailing a couple of corepirate nazi hired goons would send a clear message to the rest of the world from US. any truthful look at the 'scorecard' would reveal that we are a society in decline/deep doo-doo, despite all of the scriptdead pr ?firm? generated drum beating & flag waving propaganda that we are constantly bombarded with. is it time to get real yet? please consider carefully ALL of yOUR other 'options'. the creators will prevail. as it has always been.

corepirate nazi execrable costs outweigh benefits
(Score:-)mynuts won, the king is a fink)
by ourselves on everyday 24/7

as there are no benefits, just more&more death/debt & disruption. fortunately there's an 'army' of light bringers, coming yOUR way. the little ones/innocents must/will be protected. after the big flash, ALL of yOUR imaginary 'borders' may blur a bit? for each of the creators' innocents harmed in any way, there is a debt that must/will be repaid by you/us, as the perpetrators/minions of unprecedented evile, will not be available. 'vote' with (what's left in) yOUR wallet, & by your behaviors. help bring an end to unprecedented evile's manifestation through yOUR owned felonious corepirate nazi glowbull warmongering execrable. some of US should consider ourselves somewhat fortunate to be among those scheduled to survive after the big flash/implementation of the creators' wwwildly popular planet/population rescue initiative/mandate. it's right in the manual, 'world without end', etc.... as we all ?know?, change is inevitable, & denying/ignoring gravity, logic, morality, etc..., is only possible, on a temporary basis. concern about the course of events that will occur should the life0cidal execrable fail to be intervened upon is in order. 'do not be dismayed' (also from the manual). however, it's ok/recommended, to not attempt to live under/accept, fauxking nazi felon greed/fear/ego based pr ?firm? scriptdead mindphuking hypenosys.

consult with/trust in yOUR creators. providing more than enough of everything for everyone (without any distracting/spiritdead personal gain motives), whilst badtolling unprecedented evile, using an unlimited supply of newclear power, since/until forever. see you there?

"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

meanwhile, the life0cidal philistines continue on their path of death, debt, & disruption for most of US. gov. bush denies health care for the little ones;

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/03/bush.veto/index.html

whilst demanding/extorting billions to paint more targets on the bigger kids;

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/12/bush.war.funding/index.html

& pretending that it isn't happening here;

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3086937.ece
all is not lost/forgotten/forgiven

(yOUR elected) president al gore (deciding not to wait for the much anticipated 'lonesome al answers yOUR questions' interview here on /.) continues to attempt to shed some light on yOUR foibles. talk about reverse polarity;

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article3046116.ece

"They" havent thought of it? (3, Interesting)

alexborges (313924) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645875)

Ah... microsoft's mentality, you gotta love it. When he says "we havent thought about that size before", he wants to convey "we, humanity".

Doesnt that kind of show what kind of reality distortion field this guy lives in?

Amazon thought about it, Google thought about it. Ah, they are not "we, humanity"... i see.

Re:"They" havent thought of it? (1)

jhines (82154) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646091)

"they" are not using Vista or other MS products

Re:"They" havent thought of it? (3, Interesting)

Zarf (5735) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646359)

Ah... microsoft's mentality, you gotta love it. When he says "we havent thought about that size before", he wants to convey "we, humanity".

Doesnt that kind of show what kind of reality distortion field this guy lives in?

Amazon thought about it, Google thought about it. Ah, they are not "we, humanity"... i see.
Actually, I read it as a genuinely humble admission that Microsoft has never thought about data centers the size that Google and Amazon have. I read it as a genuine admission of his company's short comings and a challenge for his company to rise to that challenge. Admittedly he stops short of saying ... "we haven't thought about that size before. Like Google and Amazon have."

The last bit I read as a desire to be able to compete with the larger data centers. Recognizing that Microsoft today is not one of the companies with a large reliable data center on the scale of Google.

A good commentator would have mentioned that, pointed it out as a sign of weakness, and seen Gate's parting challenge to his company as a "moon shot" type of declaration.

I don't know about Bill Gates... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645903)

...but us slashdotters have been imagining these beowulf clusters from quite some time!

hosted services (5, Interesting)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645909)

So we are returning to the very thing Microsoft fought to eliminate in the first place. Big data centers where you lease CPU time and have nothing but a terminal at your desk. ( ok, so its slightly different in actual practice, but same basic principles )

Anyone else find it as ironic as i?

Thought it was *MICRO*soft (2, Interesting)

maz2331 (1104901) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646113)

Looks like Bill G has run out of vision, and is now moving back to the good old mainframe days.

That's innovation?

Re:Thought it was *MICRO*soft (2, Interesting)

Giltron (592095) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646269)

Things are moving into the "cloud". The mass market is already shifting in this direction. Microsoft has never been the first to innovate but you can be sure when they commit to something they will go at full force. Microsoft has been very good at one thing : business. They know how to make money well.

Re:hosted services (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23646209)

Microsoft is merely recognizing where the market it moving towards (or has already started to move to).

They can't stop it, so why would they not try to own that market too?

where to put them (1)

AKabral (1056068) | more than 6 years ago | (#23645927)

i heard Microsoft signed a lease with the oil companies to build these new datacenters on the icecaps to accelerate global warming . . .

Datacenters? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23645951)

Didn't we hear about datacenters already? Ah, yeah... Google, right? Looks like MS is innovating again.

Tagged: finally (1)

terbo (307578) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646009)

fixed that for ya.

pity they just annoyed the best developers... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23646011)

...with their OOXML standard.

The Father of Modern Computing (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23646039)

Bill Gates has contributed more to modern computing than any other ten people together. Most people in IT owe a debt of gratitude because without his contribution most of you wouldn't have jobs. The open source community should consider that without Microsoft and it's dominant position created by Bill Gates incredible business savy there would be no open source movement as there would have been nothing to unite against. For those who would argue that he is not a great business man you would need to consider that he is one of the richest men in the world and you don't get there with luck alone. I have read these forums for several years and today is the last day I will bother. I have finally come to the conclusion that 80% of the MS bashers who write these comments are low level techy's who will never achieve a leadership role in any capacity. I jumped on the Windows band wagon in the early days. I rode the wave, made a million, sold the business, and started another. Everything I have done in IT has been based on Windows and MS products. My family has prospered because of this great man and his vision. So bash away you junior IT wannabe's, I'm going to miss Bill Gates. You will simply find someone else to blame for your lack of skill and influence.

His last speech? (1)

Kingrames (858416) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646045)

What, are they gonna kill him or something?

Ballmer: "THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!" /chair

Good... (1, Funny)

Foofoobar (318279) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646055)

does this mean he's gonna shut up now?

When is the last photo shoot? (1)

muniak (1128465) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646087)

I'm still waiting for the day when a sexy, white haired Bill gets up on his desk and poses for the camera again.

Excellent Comrade (1)

His Shadow (689816) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646139)

"It's getting us to think about data centers at a scale that we haven't thought of before... [to create] a mega-data center that Microsoft and only a few others will have."

So we've come this far so that Microsoft can go back to building mainframes, after they made billions on the idea of every person and their dog having reams of processor power and storage space sitting under their desk just so they can get email and spreadsheets from application servers.

How in bloody Hell was this putz ever considered a visionary? Salesman yes. Idea man no. Unless you like bad ideas.

'Millions' of Servers (2, Informative)

miller60 (554835) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646171)

For those who couldn't sit through the 80-minute video [microsoft.com] (or don't have Silverlight), Gates said that in the future Microsoft's mega data centers will have many millions of servers" [datacenterknowledge.com] . It currently has "hundreds of thousands" of servers, but expects to pack up to 300,000 into its new Chicago container farm. Gates also predicted that only a select number of companies (presumably including Microsoft and Google) will be able to compete on this scale.

Typical (1)

jayhawk88 (160512) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646183)

The "rock star" developers get Bill's last speech. And what are the tech guys going to get next week during TechEd IT Professionals? Probably another lame Back to the Future skit with Christopher Lloyd cashing a paycheck. Yeah, it's all puppies and roses when you developers are compiling, and it's cute when you do "compatibility testing" with a VM load. But then someone tries to actually run it on a real computer and a real network, and who do you call? That's right, the old neck-beards.

Does Microsoft pay for its own licenses? (2, Funny)

Ageing Metalhead (586837) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646223)

One way to pump up the stock, is for it to purchase licenses for its own OSs. Some poor smuck has to go around and then type in all the product keys ;-)

WE? (1)

Serpentegena (991730) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646231)

data centers on 'a scale that we haven't thought of before'
Define "we".

When will /. change the Gates avatar? (3, Funny)

microbee (682094) | more than 6 years ago | (#23646307)

Please let it be a flying chair
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