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Google Releases Desktop Gadgets For Linux

CmdrTaco posted more than 6 years ago | from the more-time-wasters-than-you-can-shake-a-stick-at dept.

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mstrom writes "Google announced it has ported its Google Desktop Gadgets platform to Linux, making it the first cross-platform [desktop] gadgets framework. In a sign that Google is fully embracing the open source model, it admits the product is not feature-complete and has opened up the code base hosted on Google Code 'to give everyone a chance to tinker with the code powering the gadgets.' According to Google: "Gadget support is not just a single feature, but rather an entire platform for miniature applications.'"

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Google gadgets? (1, Interesting)

Yetihehe (971185) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652031)

How much search bars and adboxes do one need on a desktop?

Re:Google gadgets? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23652171)

42 I guess

Re:Google gadgets? (3, Funny)

jsnipy (913480) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652201)

Think bigger. Gadgets can be more than just the typical fare that you download. Imagine all those pointless reports with executive gauges ... they can now be gadgets!

Re:Google gadgets? (2, Insightful)

Djatha (848102) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652259)

Good question. On the other hand, I often enough see desktops littered with widgets, programs with extra toolbars, the start menu with all kinds of shitware, etc. So I guess, for a substantial part of the population yet another gadget/toolbar/thingie is just what one always wanted ...

What is wrong with superkaramba/Plasma/etc already existing on teh Linux desktop? I mean, what extra value adds the allmighty Google, speak its name with reference, to the desktop widget landscape for a typical Linux user who isn't interested in frivolous stuff but in better technology?

Re:Google gadgets? (5, Funny)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652689)

speak its name with reference
Oh almighty Google [google.com] , we salute you!

Re:Google gadgets? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23653381)

no no, he meant "reference"...

as in "Oh &google, we salute you!" /sb

Re:Google gadgets? (5, Insightful)

D Ninja (825055) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652343)

I don't know - however many you want?

Seriously, whatever Google is actually making is not the point here. What is notable here is the fact that they are providing serious application development for the Linux platform. With so many "big name" companies somewhat ignoring the *nix platform, this is a good thing.

With that said, I don't know if you were trolling, but have you tried out Google Gadgets (for Windows presumably)? There is some great stuff there. RSS feed readers, weather, traffic reports, etc. Yes, I agree, none of it is terribly important, and you can always head to a website to get that information, but it's always nice to have that information right at your fingertips. And, just because you don't have a use for something doesn't mean other people don't need it.

Re:Google gadgets? (2, Funny)

Yetihehe (971185) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652599)

It was aimed at "funny". I didn't try it because I don't typically use windows (only at work). I've tried some weather reports, but none have yet worked form me (Poland, small city) and it is impossible to find traffic information here (Poland, small city), not that it would be really useful (Poland, small city). Otherwise, I agree with you.

Re:Google gadgets? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23652705)

they forgot Poland!

Re:Google gadgets? (1)

D Ninja (825055) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653171)

It was aimed at "funny".
Ahhh...yeah. That's the problem with the internet. It's so amazingly easy [www.ctv.ca] to misinterpret [slashdot.org] what someone writes.

My apologies.

Re:Google gadgets? Full linux support!! (1)

miknix (1047580) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653747)

I agree.

And not only they give a source package for linux but they also give support for both qt and gtk widgets.

And for those saying that Linux users don't want a ugly Vista bar on their desktop, I must remind them that Linux had those thingies way before Vista. I'm talking about adesklets, superkaramba and friends..

So yes, I actually feel happy when a big company like Google thinks about us, the minority and little Linux users. Even if I don't need/want what they have to offer.

Re:Google gadgets? (2, Interesting)

Hatta (162192) | more than 6 years ago | (#23654119)

But we already have tons of dock apps [dockapps.org] that work with just about any window manager. Why is Google reinventing the wheel here?

Re:Google gadgets? (1)

paskie (539112) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652435)

I guess none if it's really open-source?

Re:Google gadgets? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23652475)

better question:

How much spying on your data, surfing, searches, and miscellany does one need on your computer?

Oh, I forgot. Do no evil.

Mod me down, but it's true.

Obama's core demographic (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23652793)

White yuppies full of angst about their success, and desperate to be punished for their sins of being born with a leg up on everyone else, so that they can sleep easy as they wrap themselves in the warm and soothing delusion that the world is a fair place after all...

Re:Google gadgets? (4, Funny)

Rob_Bryerton (606093) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653079)

If they correct grammar and spelling, the answer is "more than you're currently using."

Re:Google gadgets? (1)

martin_b1sh0p (673005) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653673)

Well I'm excited because I got hooked on having a weather applet on my desktop...but superkaramba isn't being updated anymore and gnome's desklet ("Good Weather") doesn't get updates from weather.com (or wherever it's from) anymore.

So basically I'm waiting for a nice desktop widget that shows me the current/forecast and it looks like Google might be the answer.

Re:Google gadgets? (1)

Mr. DOS (1276020) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653861)

Infinity plus one?

      --- Mr. DOS

It's about time... (4, Insightful)

TheRedSeven (1234758) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652067)

For all the Google talk about organizing information and their 'open platform' push with Android, it's about time they start taking Linux platforms seriously.

Netcraft confirms it (-1, Redundant)

Gazzonyx (982402) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652081)

Netcrafts confirms it... Year Of the Linux Desktop.
*ducks*... BTW, frist!

Re:Netcraft confirms it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23653867)

Netcrafts confirms it... Year Of the Linux Desktop.
-1 Bad/Old Joke...

*ducks*
See http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=565313&cid=23560489 [slashdot.org]

... BTW, frist!
-1 Wrong...

0 out of 3 ain't that bad... (0, Offtopic)

Gazzonyx (982402) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653989)

Netcrafts confirms it... Year Of the Linux Desktop.
-1 Bad/Old Joke...

*ducks*
See http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=565313&cid=23560489 [slashdot.org]

... BTW, frist!
-1 Wrong...
Yeah, but other than those three issues, it was all killer and no filler!

;o (1)

Fackamato (913248) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652121)

... but is it open source? Yes! Screenshot: http://google-gadgets-for-linux.googlecode.com/svn/images/ggl-standalone.jpg [googlecode.com]

Re:;o (1)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652175)

... but is it open source? Yes! Screenshot: http://google-gadgets-for-linux.googlecode.com/svn/images/ggl-standalone.jpg [googlecode.com]
There are many reasons for me to hate Google. Their commitment to Linux and Open Source makes me look past all of them!

Re:;o (5, Insightful)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652711)

... but is it open source? Yes! Screenshot: http://google-gadgets-for-linux.googlecode.com/svn/images/ggl-standalone.jpg [googlecode.com]
There are many reasons for me to hate Google. Their commitment to Linux and Open Source makes me look past all of them!
Isn't that like a woman saying, "I know he beats me, but he bought me a nice car so I'll stay" ?

It really ought to take a little more to impress you.

Re:;o (1)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653063)

... but is it open source? Yes! Screenshot: http://google-gadgets-for-linux.googlecode.com/svn/images/ggl-standalone.jpg [googlecode.com]
There are many reasons for me to hate Google. Their commitment to Linux and Open Source makes me look past all of them!
Isn't that like a woman saying, "I know he beats me, but he bought me a nice car so I'll stay" ?

It really ought to take a little more to impress you.
Actually, it's more like, "He is the political opposite of me, he pees on the toilet seat and treats our neighbors like shit, but he treats me well and buys me a nice car, so I'll stay."

Re:;o (1)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653111)

... but is it open source? Yes! Screenshot: http://google-gadgets-for-linux.googlecode.com/svn/images/ggl-standalone.jpg [googlecode.com]
There are many reasons for me to hate Google. Their commitment to Linux and Open Source makes me look past all of them!
Isn't that like a woman saying, "I know he beats me, but he bought me a nice car so I'll stay" ?

It really ought to take a little more to impress you.
Actually, it's more like, "He is the political opposite of me, he pees on the toilet seat and treats our neighbors like shit, but he treats me well and buys me a nice car, so I'll stay."
Yeah, but that pretty much describes every relationship, though. I don't know why people don't get urinals installed in their homes...

Re:;o (1)

girasquid (1234570) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653385)

It's because the urinals won't run Linux.

Re:;o (1)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653443)

It's because the urinals won't run Linux.
No, but the *WILL* run NetBSD.

Re:;o (2, Insightful)

Niten (201835) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653351)

Isn't that like a woman saying, "I know he beats me, but he bought me a nice car so I'll stay" ?

No. Not even remotely.

Re:;o (2, Insightful)

barnackle (905200) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653655)

Isn't that like a woman saying, "I know he beats me, but he bought me a nice car so I'll stay" ?
yeah, but apparently the nice car was worth the beating. just look at fear factor.

Serves you right... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23652159)

for being too smug about being productive on linux [slashdot.org] a few posts below.

What about Opera? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23652217)

If you count Opera's widgets, this isn't the first cross-platform widget/gadget system.

Re:What about Opera? (5, Informative)

dsparil (844576) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652887)

Plus, it runs on the most platforms; Windows, OS X, Linux, Solaris, FreeBSD, Symbian* and Windows Mobile*; and it's just vanilla HTML, JS and SVG zipped up.
*Once Opera Mobile 9.5 ships.

Konfabulator? (5, Interesting)

PainMeds (1301879) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652265)

making it the first cross-platform [desktop] gadgets framework

Wasn't Konfabulator the first? It supported both Mac and Windows, and was the tool of choice until Apple decided to release the Dashboard.

Re:Konfabulator? (1)

wile_e_wonka (934864) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652449)

Yes--you're right!

Wait, no--your comment is hurting my worship of Google. Please stop.

Re:Konfabulator? (1)

JasterBobaMereel (1102861) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653537)

Probably ... ..although several Linux gadget frameworks used QT or GTK and so theoretically would work on Windows ...

Google Gadgets has the advantage that it can use either QT or GTK ... and so probably works on most other *nix systems as well ....

KDE4 (1)

wile_e_wonka (934864) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652275)

Although KDE4.1(?) was planning to impliment the ability to run Apple Widgets (or whatever they're called).

Of course, Apple didn't design them to work cross-platform, though.

Re:KDE4 (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652813)

hopefully 4.2 will support this without needing to install extra.

Re:KDE4 (1)

jeffbax (905041) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652955)

Well.. to be fair, Apple's widgets are mostly just HTML, CSS, and JavaScript which runs with WebKit... although some have some more OS X specific plugs in them - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dashboard_(software) [wikipedia.org]

They have also been shown to run right in the browser, so hopefully KDE will be able to support them too.

KDE 4.1 (1)

wroshyyr (688688) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652295)

Wouldn't KDE 4 be the first cross-platform desktop widget framework? Or don't they count it because it isn't completely done yet?

Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (5, Interesting)

MistrBlank (1183469) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652297)

Do people really use them? I don't use any of the widgets on my Mac OSX system. I sort of used the calculator, but do I really need one in the background all the time? On Vista I shut down the sidebar, what a huge waste of resources. And why do I need a clock gadget when there's one already in the system tray? This just seems like a gimmick to waste collective time.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (2, Interesting)

Chyeld (713439) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652521)

I don't use the Google versions, but I do have Confabulator/Yahoo! Widgets installed and do actually USE some of the widgets for more than eyecandy.

Granted 90% of the widgets out there are useless, and the other 10% probably have alternatives to them that don't involve running in a widget engine. But the fact that there are other ways to skin the cat doesn't immediately invalidate the way you prefer.

That said, when I'm expecting to do heavy duty work that will probably peg the resourse on my aging computer, the first thing that dies is this.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (4, Interesting)

qoncept (599709) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652627)

There are a whole bunch of things that make you think they'd be useful. "Oh man, that would be so cool if only I [insert something you don't do, and realize that even then it probably wouldn't be very useful]." I used it for a while, mostly for the weather and and to keep an eye on my network activity. Huge waste of space and now that I'm in Linux there are much better options.

For the most part, you get blocks that staticly show one unimportant thing, or tickers. Tickers aren't convenient. You have to wait to see what you are interested in, or actively watch it. If you're going to actively watch it, you might as well visit whatever site the RSS feed is coming from.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (3, Informative)

3p1ph4ny (835701) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653089)

For what it's worth, I think you're right. However, I've been using conky (http://conky.sourceforge.net/) forever, and I think it's great. That's about as close to gadgets as I come, though.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (1)

Otter (3800) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653311)

Huge waste of space and now that I'm in Linux there are much better options.

Those being what? The only Linux options I know of are things like KDE and GNOME toolbar applets, things like gkrellm and (my favorite) WindowMaker dockapps. Those aren't any different from "blocks" and "tickers" on other platforms.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (1)

rar (110454) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653777)

The only Linux options I know of are things like KDE and GNOME toolbar applets, things like gkrellm and (my favorite) WindowMaker dockapps.
Gnome toolbar applets don't really work as "gadgets" or "desklets" in the most accepted sense, since while the toolbar can be set transparent, there is no way to configure it to stay below other windows. It is funny to see this discussion pop up just when a few days ago I posted a lengthy post [gnome.org] in gnomes bugzilla about re-opening a feature request that would make this use of the gnome toolbar possible. Sadly, it doesn't seem to get any attention.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (1)

shawn(at)fsu (447153) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652651)

I like the side bar in Vista. I keep the weather up, sometimes the notes and I installed sphere clock (which I use as a very loud alarm when I simply must not oversleep). The only gadget I wish they had was a simple tell me how hot my cpu is.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (2, Funny)

Sporkinum (655143) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653041)

Nothing like having an alarm clock that draws several hundred watts of power.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (1)

onion2k (203094) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652701)

As an RSS reader, sure. Mostly it's just the obvious news feeds from the likes of the BBC and Engadget, but additionally I have a couple of other less usual ones - one is a box for the latest posts on a forum I moderate, and the other is a script that takes any interesting activity (code errors, spikes in CPU usage, etc) in the logs for the servers I maintain code on and pipes them to my sidebar (and soon a sideshow-enabled display :) ). Admittedly emails would work just as well (better perhaps, I have a tendency to cover the sidebar with IDE stuff) but it's a fun thing to have, and clients are always impressed by it.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (3, Informative)

Mascot (120795) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652727)

Huge waste of resources? Waste, ok, but huge? The default sidebar thingiemajigs don't exactly drain a few CPU cores and gigs of ram.

Anyhoo, yes, some people do really use them (Yahoo's in my case). While I could perfectly well live without it, I do find having the free space of all my partitions readily visible, along with CPU, harddrive and network usage and some other tidbits to be handy. When I played Eve Online for a bit I also found the Eve skill/training monitor rather nice.

At work I find a world clock widget to be very useful when it comes to keep tracking of the local time at our various offices. Before we changed our presence system I also had a self-created widget that listed the activity and phone numbers of people key to whatever I was working on at the moment.

Sure, all this information is available elsewhere. It's just not as convenient as the always present always updated desktop widgets. It's not for everybody, but it does have its uses.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23652789)

I don't use any widgets right now, although I do play with Opera's widgets once in a while. Those widgets aren't particularly useful on a desktop, but the widgets I play with would be invaluable on a smartphone. I think that was Opera's plan from the get-go.

I cannot wait for Opera Mobile 9.5 to come out. Widget support is the killer feature for me.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (1)

JasterBobaMereel (1102861) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652819)

My Windows desktop has Clock, Running Programs, Tooltray Icons ... and nothing else

No Desktop Icons
No 'Start' Button
Nothing!

My Linux desktop is the same!

Why would I want gadgets that either take up valuable screen space or hide beneath windows?

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (1)

phtpht (1276828) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653139)

I agree. In addition, I find the taskbar most useless as well.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (1)

Kugrian (886993) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652829)

I've messed about with some of them. It only seems useful for things I want 'at-a-glance'. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but that's the clock. Five seconds and a click I have the weather. I have a window always open that provides calculator functions.
As many others here, I'm the computer fixer dude for friends. I still haven't met any 'normal computer users' who will use anything more than a browser and IM client on the same screen at a time.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (1)

Kugrian (886993) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653093)

Post Scriptum: The most I've ever seen a 'normal computer user' get out of dual screens is youtube in one window, and normal browsing in another window. I tried sidebars for a while, and it just doesn't help. Maybe I'm just used to 800x600 from many earlier years of computer usage.

Personally, I only use more than one thing in the same window when it makes sense. Firefox with firebug/web devel toolbar, and a text editor. Sometimes maybe a browser at the top, and an email client at the bottom. I only see widescreens beneficial for watching videos - multiple desktops make more sense if I wanna switch subject.

Though I can totally see the value of sidebars, I've still to see anyone who uses one long term.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (1)

Bandman (86149) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653889)


bandman@newcastle[503]:~$ ps --user bandman | grep bash | wc -l
21


7th virtual desktop is the first one where I can see the background.

I'm a sysadmin, though, which doesn't count as "normal computer user". Sysadmins define abnormal.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (2, Informative)

99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652849)

Do people really use them? I don't use any of the widgets on my Mac OSX system.

I used to be in the same boat as you. Right up until 10.5, widgets seemed to use up too many resources to make them worthwhile. Since 10.5, however, they are a lot better about being idle in the background, but still coming up quickly enough when desired. I regularly use the white and yellow pages widgets, a widget to track time I put in on various projects, a weather report widget, and a simple timer.

I think widgets are a reflection of improvements in multitasking and resource allocation. Back in the day, if I wanted to play a game at a LAN party, I shut down all my applications. I didn't leave applications sitting open unless I was actually using them. Since about version 10.2 of OS X, I never quit any of my applications that I use daily. I sure don't shut down my big, Adobe CS applications before playing a game. Better resource allocation has really changed the way I compute and Widgets are a reflection of that. Why not have a dozen small applications running in the background all the time, so long as they don't significantly affect performance? It is a lot more convenient than firing them up when needed, one by one. Mind you, there are a lot of useless Widgets and even some I thought I'd use (google maps) I don't because I generally have a Web browser open too. Still, I do think widgets are here to stay; especially for smartphones.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (1)

MistrBlank (1183469) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652991)

"especially for smartphones."
Is it really a "widget" then? It's basically a running application there.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23652941)

I've actually MADE widgets for my job, and I don't think they're useful.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (1)

street struttin' (1249972) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652967)

Don't forget weather. Everybody needs a million ways to tell what it's like outside at every instant. I think it reminds people of the freedom of the sunlight and breeze, even when they are confined. It makes living in a cube more bearable.

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (2, Funny)

cashman73 (855518) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653123)

Oh, please! If I see Weatherbug on one more PC, I think I'm gonna go postal,... ;-)

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23653851)

I use iGoogle as my homepage and besides the gmail-inbox widget all others were pretty useless and/or broken for me. So I made a few myself that I use regularly: local tv-stations primetime, train schedule for my main station, rain radar for my area, and one for buying tickets for the cinema in my city. Notice that those are all "local" widgets which would be only useful for people of my city. Maybe that's where the power is. (Sry for bad English :F)

Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. (1)

pdusen (1146399) | more than 6 years ago | (#23654089)

The widgets included with Vista aren't that great, but there are a bunch of downloadable sidebar tools I use; a CPU/RAM meter, a HD space meter, a NIC traffic meter, a gadget to show me my current public IP address, etc.

Not feature complete (1)

badfish99 (826052) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652341)

From TFA:
[Google] admits the product is not feature-complete and has opened up the code base ...to give everyone a chance to tinker with the code

Since when was "open source" just an excuse for releasing a half-finished product? Google is a multi-million-dollar company. Surely they can afford to pay some programmers and testers to produce a finished product before they release it?

Re:Not feature complete (4, Insightful)

ciaohound (118419) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652601)

Are there any apps that Google has released in the traditional sense? Seems like they stay beta forever.

Re:Not feature complete (4, Informative)

99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652971)

Since when was "open source" just an excuse for releasing a half-finished product? Google is a multi-million-dollar company. Surely they can afford to pay some programmers and testers to produce a finished product before they release it?

Google's development methods are quite different than other companies. Many of these beta services and products they release are not something the company is using to make money, but are the individual projects of the engineers. Each engineer gets 20% of their time where they must work on their own thing. A lot of those "things" eventually get tossed out for the public to play with, usually as betas and often as OSS projects. Sure, Google could pay engineers to work on this full time, but it isn't clear that is really going to make them money. Linux on the desktop improvements aren't exactly a goldmine. Rather, I think it is nice they let the engineer donate this code to Linux and let people help him integrate it into Linux.

Re:Not feature complete (1)

mapsjanhere (1130359) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653223)

As long as stuff is in beta you're not responsible in a product liability sense. If you're computer goes up in smoke because you tinkered with unreleased software - you should have read the fine print on "beta software".

Re:Not feature complete (1)

Bandman (86149) | more than 6 years ago | (#23654153)

That doesn't matter so much. How many click through agreements have you seen where the programmers and companies are responsible for any damages.

I don't know if they'd stick in court, but I suspect that Google's reasoning for releasing this before it's 100% is that they want the community to be able to play with it

Re:Not feature complete (1)

niko9 (315647) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653401)

Since when was "open source" just an excuse for releasing a half-finished product? Google is a multi-million-dollar company. Surely they can afford to pay some programmers and testers to produce a finished product before they release it?

Google's development methods are quite different than other companies. Many of these beta services and products they release are not something the company is using to make money, but are the individual projects of the engineers. Each engineer gets 20% of their time where they must work on their own thing. A lot of those "things" eventually get tossed out for the public to play with, usually as betas and often as OSS projects. Sure, Google could pay engineers to work on this full time, but it isn't clear that is really going to make them money. Linux on the desktop improvements aren't exactly a goldmine. Rather, I think it is nice they let the engineer donate this code to Linux and let people help him integrate it into Linux.

Correct me if I'm wrong but..

Gmail, which is still in beta, is someone's personal pet project that Google does NOT make money on?

Re:Not feature complete (2, Informative)

Bandman (86149) | more than 6 years ago | (#23654171)

No, it started as a pet project. Like Google Maps, which also produces income.

Re:Not feature complete (1)

s4m7 (519684) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653243)

Since when was "open source" just an excuse for releasing a half-finished product?
Since about the same time "free" gave you the right to bitch about the quality of it.

Re:Not feature complete (1)

shellbeach (610559) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653323)

Since when was "open source" just an excuse for releasing a half-finished product?
Since this [google.com] , perhaps?

But that project didn't work out so well, so you're probably right -- it's a bad idea :)

Re:Not feature complete (1)

Bandman (86149) | more than 6 years ago | (#23654009)

See, if Google made you pay for this, I could see your argument.

Heck, if Google even implied that this was a useful tool, I might agree.

Suppose in another universe, Google waited until it was 100% to release it. Would you rather have it in 6 months, when that happens, or would you rather play with it now?

And since they released it now, it doesn't matter what your answer was to the previous question. If you want to wait until it's done, then wait. If you want to use it now, then use it now.

In other words, stop complaining that someone gives you too many options.

KDE 4... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23652347)

KDE 4 already does this. Their is really no reason why anyone would need claymore then are already made for the various already available "gadget things". Really you got your news, your weather, your clock and that is really all anyone should need.

bullshit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23652401)

Google announced it has ported its Google Desktop Gadgets platform to Linux, making it the first cross-platform [desktop] gadgets framework.

google google google bullshit!

opera has widgets since a year or so for linux and for windows

fucked by gnaa, your colon grows a 3rd eye (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23652461)

I bet the drool pools at steve ballmer's feet when his lizard head penis slides out, the size of a small, annoying canary, with the fragrance of kelp. I bet his eyes roll back and his tongue turns into an omlette textured slipper shaped widget while his voice turns metallic and his pelvis turns black while his penis shoots out a cloud of silverfish

legalize marijuana and all hallucinogens, you're going to need it with 4 more years of a republican or democrat you brainwashed 2 party only sheep!

fantastic! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23652471)

when microsoft makes open source moves it's a trap but when google does it they're embracing open source? huh? i guess fools forget that when money is on the line you can't trust anyone.

Re:fantastic! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23652575)

ballmer is that you? ejaculating into your suse lizard hand puppet mouth again?

More information required... (1)

Wowsers (1151731) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652503)

To find out more I visited this link from the OP's original link http://desktop.google.com/linux/ [google.com] This gives the inspiring:

Not Found
Error 404

Re:More information required... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23652565)

Google's fault. http://desktop.google.com/linux/index.html works, so perhaps they screwed up some config somewhere? Seems a bit silly not defaulting to index.* files.

Re:More information required... (1)

papna (1242200) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653075)

Works fine for me. It's an impressive day if Google got slashdotted.

First X-platform? Really? (4, Informative)

GreyDuck (192463) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652663)

the first cross-platform [desktop] gadgets framework

So, this Konfabulator thing I've been running for years isn't cross-platform after all? Thanks for clearing that up, Slashdot!

Re:First X-platform? Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23652803)

the first cross-platform [desktop] gadgets framework

So, this Konfabulator thing I've been running for years isn't cross-platform after all? Thanks for clearing that up, Slashdot!
Where is linux support for Konfabulator?

Re:First X-platform? Really? (1)

xtracto (837672) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653307)

Agreed.

Just read this post [macewan.org] from someone which seems to be a Konfabulator developer.

I liked these tidbits:

Part of the issue with linux is all the different desktop environments. If we do this, weâ(TM)ll pick exactly one and focus on that. We wonâ(TM)t dilute our effort.
and

the real fun part wonâ(TM)t necessarily be bringing the engine over and the windowing,itâ(TM)ll likely be the more esoteric things like measuring battery life/wireless in a standard way. But linux and the word standard donâ(TM)t generally seem to go together.
Of course, I would say the desktop envieronment of choice would be KDE... since Konfabultaor Konforms Kuite Korrectly to the naming Konventions.

Re:First X-platform? Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23653581)

I see your sarcasm and raise you double sarcasm.


Oh so when did yahoo implement linux compatibility in Konfabulator? oh they didn't? And what's this about having to get different widgets depending on your platform?

I wonder (1)

wobedraggled (549225) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652709)

How long until a .deb file is made. good news all around.

Why is this news? (0, Troll)

TheMiddleRoad (1153113) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652751)

Does coming from Google automatically make something newsworthy, no matter how insignificant?

Re:Why is this news? (1)

TheP4st (1164315) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653645)

You must be new here.

Do they suck ... (0, Flamebait)

labmonkey09 (992534) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652919)

... as much as the ones for Windows?

Summarize for the proxied? (1)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 6 years ago | (#23652927)

Can anyone summarize what this means, for those of us stuck behind firewalls?

Note to Google: blogspot is probably not the best place to put real stuff, however "Web 2.0" it may be.

Um, you already could do this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23653239)

Screenlets can import Google Gadgets and run them on the desktop just fine.

Not sure about licensing (Qt is GPL) (2, Interesting)

hubert.lepicki (1119397) | more than 6 years ago | (#23653797)

Hi all, I am not sure if they are not breaking rules of GPL. Of course, I don't think this is intentional - but if their gadgets use Qt - they should be released under the terms of GPL and not Apache Software License 2.0. Quick browsing their code repository shows that even files that require Qt headers have Apache license header - not a GPL one. Does anyone know if this stuff is legally possible? I'm not accusing Google of anything, I'm really happy that they released it and I'm building this software right now. I just think the legal stuff is really important.

What about Opera? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23653985)

Opera's already had cross-platform widgets, in fact, they work on many more OSes than just the Big Three.

That includes mobile phones, the Wii, etc.

Re:What about Opera? (1)

Miladinoski (1280850) | more than 6 years ago | (#23654351)

That includes mobile phones, the Wii, etc.
That doesn't include mobile phones, yet. [opera.com]

Re:What about Opera? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23654357)

Opera's proprietary (CLOSED) shit. It may be nice, but it's closed, it took them years to ditch the advertising in their free version with banners and shit, now they need to ditch the closed source and open it up.

Gadgets (1)

Kanan (527196) | more than 6 years ago | (#23654097)

I saw a lot of posts claiming that gadgets are worthless. Since I use Google Desktop with gadgets, I thought I would mention that gadgets I use. I mostly use Google Calendar (my agenda is very full) as well as a remember the milk gadget that is identical to the one on iGoogle. I also use a large digital clock with an alarm that flashes to alert me when I need to do certain things. The only other gadget I would like is something that combines RTM, my calendar, and permits me to "punch in" and "punch out" to activities in my RTM to do list. I like having all of these visible to me to help me keep track of my activities and goals. I use two wide screen monitors though, so if I had a tiny screen I might not find gadgets as useful.

s/Google/Doubleclick (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23654243)


Same Company, same goals

perhaps it could be cynically re-titled
"Javascript based Spyware from DoubleClicks parent company comes to Linux"

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