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Jack Thompson Walks Out On Hearing

samzenpus posted more than 6 years ago | from the please-let-this-be-the-end dept.

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Erik J writes "Apparently Jack had heard enough. The Florida Bar asked for an 'enhanced disbarment' in the disciplinary hearing of Jack Thompson, held earlier this afternoon. The recommendation means Thompson would be disbarred and prohibited from applying to practice law again for ten years, according to 11th Judicial Circuit of Florida spokesperson Eunice Sigler. Thompson's disciplinary hearing apparently ended in the attorney walking out of the courtroom after saying the judge did not have the authority to hear his case."

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fp (0, Redundant)

lucas teh geek (714343) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661557)

woohoo! surely the end of his reign of terror must be here!

Re:fp (5, Funny)

Tenebrousedge (1226584) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661599)

Reign of terror? You must be thinking of a different Jack Thompson. This seems more like a punch line to me.

Seriously, when it comes to ambulance-chasing frothing-at-the-mouth nutcase walking jokes, Ol' J.T. takes the cake. And then sues Hostess for making it...

Re:fp (5, Funny)

Majik Sheff (930627) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661955)

I consider this a colostomy for the legal system (one less asshole).

obligatory (5, Funny)

naz404 (1282810) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661775)

I, for one, welcome our new Jack Thompson-disbarring overlords!

Re:obligatory (5, Funny)

Kingrames (858416) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662227)

for one? you must be new here.

Re:fp (5, Insightful)

rob1980 (941751) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661801)

Wrong. His career as a "video game analyst" at Fox News starts in 5...4...3...2...

Re:fp (2, Insightful)

Kierthos (225954) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662043)

Do they already have a lot of disbarred lawyers on staff? If they don't already, I'm not sure they're eager to start hiring now.

Good ridance (3, Insightful)

lyml (1200795) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661565)

It will be nice to never hear anything from him again.

Re:Good ridance (5, Interesting)

chaboud (231590) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661657)

Oh, there's some optimism. Has the lack of a license to practice stopped Dr. Phil from being a pain? (Answer: no [wikipedia.org] ).

The worst thing that Jack could do is stop talking, though. He's like PETA. Some people could agree with his points, but he makes it very hard to espouse those positions without being lumped in with the loonies.

Quiet censorship is far more nefarious.

Re:Good ridance (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23661851)

I thought we talked about this already. Jack Thompson was good for us, as he was an easy target nutjob fanatical. It's kind of like killing the leader of a street gang: before the body turns cold, you have a good chance that someone worse will come along and take their place!

Re:Good ridance (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23662217)

He may not be very likable, in and out of the courtroom, but he's correct as it concerns grand theft auto, howard stern, hip hop music and the like. In fact, if you look at political history you can trace the political health of a regime through the music that is popular at the time. All the above is helping to undermine (though maybe subtly) the order of the regime, respect for good authority, parents, women, virtue and morals in general.

All forms of entertainment are educating, for good or bad, our society.

Obviously he's not a fan of computer games (5, Funny)

Carthag (643047) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661571)

Everyone knows it's a good idea to stick around when an NPC is talking. You might learn something interesting, or get a side-quest.

Re:Obviously he's not a fan of computer games (1)

OMNIpotusCOM (1230884) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661617)

I thought this wouldn't apply until I learned that the judge in this case had the last name of Reebdoog and kept saying "My name is Azuza and I am a hunter..."

Re:Obviously he's not a fan of computer games (2, Funny)

Kjella (173770) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661933)

You might learn something interesting, or get a side-quest.
I think he's already intensely devoted to his main quest.

Re:Obviously he's not a fan of computer games (3, Funny)

b0r1s (170449) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662075)

Clearly, he forgot to turn quick quest text: on.

Not interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23661579)

No digg!

Quoth the Nelson: (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23661601)

Ha ha!

Schadenfraude be damned, this made my day.

How dare you! (4, Funny)

Toasty16 (586358) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661607)

I for one will not stand for this kind of shabby treatment! How dare you impugn the integrity of Jack Thompson, the legal mind who gave the great state of Florida it's most famous legal document [slashdot.org] !

Re:How dare you! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23661985)

He gave Florida a 404?

Re:How dare you! (1)

Nirvelli (851945) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662175)

1) Broken link.
2) It's a word doc.

Here's a google HTML version. [google.com]

Hasn't he... (4, Insightful)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661609)

Hasn't he been disbarred yet? I can say without exageration the man is quite delusional. He should have been disbarred after the 2 Live Crew fisco years back.

Seriously, just read his Wikipedia page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_(attorney) [wikipedia.org]

I think he needs mental treatment.

Re:Hasn't he... (5, Informative)

peragrin (659227) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661873)

disbarring a lawyer is a long complicated procedure. Indeed this was his disbarrment hearing that he walked out on.

In a prepared statement left with the court he called the florida bar association Fascists. While the final ruling isn't due until September(long process remember) I can't imagine a judge being called incompetent is going to help him any.

Re:Hasn't he... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23661959)

Doesn't seem like it took that long for Bill Clinton to be disbarred. It just wasn't very well reported when it happened.

Re:Hasn't he... (5, Interesting)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661987)

In 1990, the Florida Supreme Court wanted his sanity checked.

"In 1992, Thompson asked a Florida judge to declare the Florida Bar Association unconstitutional. He said that the bar was engaged in a vendetta against him because of his religious beliefs, which he said conflict with what he called the bar's pro-gay, humanist, liberal agenda."

I'm not seeing it on Wikipedia, but I've read that he has filed suit against George Bush as well. He repeatedly files ridiculous law suits that demonstrate he has little working knowledge of how the judicial system is supposed to operate, and abuses his power as an attourney.

He should have been disbarred years and years ago for his tactics. He filed a lawsuit here in Omaha against the police chief for not handing over evidence on a sealed, active investigation on Robert Hawkins. He sues people for not pressing video game angles in criminal investigations, even before any evidence presents itself to suggest it a factor.

He "predicts" people's guilt ahead of time based on video games, and then uses legal threats to enforce those predictions that repeatedly turn out to be false.

He isn't just a nut-job, he is a bully who violates court orders and makes fairly serious threats. I'm shocked Florida has let this guy practice law for decades now.

Re:Hasn't he... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23661909)

Hasn't he been disbarred yet? I can say without exageration the man is quite delusional.

But then he probably qualifies under the Americans With Disabilities act and he'll sue for discrimination.

It's not like he has anything else to do!

Isn't he always complaining... (5, Funny)

i kan reed (749298) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661611)

Isn't he always complaining that games lack consequences that are meaningful for evil action.

Well... Here you are jack, consequences for your arrogant actions. This is no game though, I'm sorry you don't have a save point to revert to.

Re:Isn't he always complaining... (1)

Froboz23 (690392) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662031)

True. Jack Thompson's life is more like an MMORPG experience. He never seems to tire of doing corpse runs...

tempting the gods... (1)

theheadlessrabbit (1022587) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661615)

I think someone should inform Mr. Thompson the definition of the word 'hubris'

Good riddance. (5, Interesting)

HermMunster (972336) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661619)

One has to understand that this man is most likely very unstable but has a loud voice. He knows a squeeky wheel gets the grease.

A friend of mine, when I asked him why he was yelling to the crowd of students (in the cafeteria) instead of just speaking to them told me someone told him that if you want to get elected, then speak real loud. He was elected to the student board.

Jack Thompson has his followers but obviously this man is a kook. I can't imagine anyone getting away with the bullshit he has and not be punished. So now, he's saying they have no authority over him? He'll be surprised when he's arrested for practicing law after he's been disbarred.

Good riddance to him.

The more inflated they are... (1)

Bananatree3 (872975) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661633)

The more inflated their ego and righteousness, the faster and louder they pop!

Ten years is unusual (5, Informative)

hawk (1151) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661639)

I am a lawyer, but this isn't legal advice. If this even *could* apply to you, you would already be a lawyer . . .

Ten years is unusual. I'm not even sure I've ever *heard* of "enhanced disbarment" before.

By its nature, disbarment is permanent. In many (most?) states, an attorney can petition to be considered for lifting of disbarment after five years--but has a heavy burden; he must show that he is no longer a danger if allowed to practice. The fact that he is a danger was established prior to disbarment; disputing it would end the possibility of showing the needed change.

Ten years, however . . . and that does *not* mean he gets the license back then, only that that is the earliest date at which he *could* request it and attempt to show fitness . . .

hawk, esq.

Re:Ten years is unusual (5, Insightful)

rahvin112 (446269) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661845)

Attach a bunch of printed gay pornography to your next court submission and see how much the judge likes it. Extra points will be given if the Judge in question is a strictly observant southern baptist. Make sure and not tell the judge it's in there so he's sure to see it in all it's glory. It also needs to be completely unrelated to the case in anyway, use it to insinuate the opposing council is immoral.

What Jack did was beyond stupid. Way way beyond stupid. It's the kind of stuff only people who are clinically insane do. You don't attach pornography to court filings. Ask anyone you know if they think it would be a good idea to attach gay pornography to a public court filing, I'll pay you $100 if someone honestly, without prompting, sarcasm or malice says yes. In fact I bet you could go ask the people at the state mental hospital the same question and would get the same response. That's just how stupid what he did was.

Re:Ten years is unusual (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23662021)

Attach a bunch of printed gay pornography to your next court submission and see how much the judge likes it. Extra points will be given if the Judge in question is a strictly observant southern baptist. Make sure and not tell the judge it's in there so he's sure to see it in all it's glory.

Court clerks do read the stuff first -- it's almost certain the judge got a heads-up call first, likely starting with "you're not going to believe this, but..."

Re:Ten years is unusual (2, Funny)

camperdave (969942) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661957)

Maybe an enhanced disbarment is just like a regular disbarment, but with the additional stipulation that you cannot go into actual bars for ten years.

Good thinking there (3, Insightful)

Kabuthunk (972557) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661641)

Right, telling a judge that they don't have the authority to hear your case will SURELY persuade them to go lenient on you.

Unfortunately, him being unable to practice law will unlikely stop politicians or other figures looking to ban violent video games from going to him for advice.

Re:Good thinking there (2, Interesting)

arth1 (260657) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661743)

It's no big secret that Hilary Clinton and Joseph Liebermann both have consulted with Jack Thompson. Don't expect either of them to say "oops, sorry".

Re:Good thinking there (2, Informative)

aeschenkarnos (517917) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662077)

Right, telling a judge that they don't have the authority to hear your case will SURELY persuade them to go lenient on you.

You do have the right to question a court's jurisdiction. However, there is a strong presumption that they do have it, and there are ways to go about it that do not constitute a challenge to the judge's personal integrity. If your problem is with the judge's personal integrity, you appeal to a higher court.

What not to do in a court room (5, Informative)

buss_error (142273) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661645)

"Thompson's disciplinary hearing apparently ended in the attorney walking out of the courtroom after saying the judge did not have the authority to hear his case."

.
No matter how badly things go for you in court, no matter how much you dislike the ruling, no matter how unjust you feel you've been treated... NEVER insult a judge or be less than totally respectful for the process.

And don't ever tell a judge they "don't have the authority". You'll be in a higher court soon. Judges don't like people being disrepectful of other judges, not even when the judge in question is wrong. Especailly when your own motives and reasons are (properly) called into question.

The first rule of litigation . . . (4, Informative)

hawk (1151) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661869)

The first rule of litigation is, "Don't p*** off the judge."

Seriously.

hawk, esq.

Re:The first rule of litigation . . . (4, Informative)

Cadallin (863437) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661981)

This should be blindingly obvious, but I'm always amazed at the number of people who make this exact mistake. Top two rules:

1. Do NOT Piss off the Judge.

2. Do not piss off your defense attorney.

If you cause #1, you will cause #2, and you will be well and truly fucked.

Oh yeah, #3 Do NOT testify in your own defense (And even worse, Do NOT insist against the best advise of your lawyer that you be allowed to). It doesn't matter how well you think you'll do, or how innocent you think your ass is. It is almost always (i.e. 99% of the time) a horrible idea.

Re:The first rule of litigation . . . (2, Informative)

nomadic (141991) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662117)

This should be blindingly obvious, but I'm always amazed at the number of people who make this exact mistake. Top two rules: 1. Do NOT Piss off the Judge. 2. Do not piss off your defense attorney.

In a jury trial the main thing you want to do is not alienate the jury. You can get by with a judge and a defense attorney angry at you, but if the jury hates you you're in trouble.

Pull a Reiser (5, Informative)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662157)

Your post can be summed up as "don't pull a Reiser."

Also (1)

Reality Master 201 (578873) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662069)

Don't talk about Fight Club.

Re:What not to do in a court room (1)

MarkvW (1037596) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661925)

You be wrong. If you not be telling the judge that he not be having the authority, then (in some but not all circumstances), you be waiving your objection. The key is to speak softly and carry a really big stick.

Re:What not to do in a court room (1)

rrohbeck (944847) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661937)

Did you read his filing (linked in TFA?)
Man, what a rant. Delusional. Sounds to me like we'll hear he has Alzheimer's or some such in a few years.
And calling the judge dumb might not be such a good idea either. At least he didn't say "dumb cow." :)

Re:What not to do in a court room (2, Informative)

nomadic (141991) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661989)

And don't ever tell a judge they "don't have the authority". You'll be in a higher court soon.

Appeal isn't a simple matter; it's a long and costly process that should be avoided if possible. There's nothing really wrong with respectfully pointing out in a pleading that the court you're before doesn't have the discretion to do something. Granted he didn't do that in this case, but in general judges have thicker skins than slashdotters give them credit for.

Re:What not to do in a court room (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23662007)

No matter how badly things go for you in court, no matter how much you dislike the ruling, no matter how unjust you feel you've been treated... NEVER insult a judge or be less than totally respectful for the process.

And don't ever tell a judge they "don't have the authority".


You're confusing different things. It is perfectly legitimate to (respectfully) question whether this is the correct jurisdiction with the proper authority.

That being said, who besides the Florida Bar can hold a disbarment hearing for a lawyer licensed to practice law in Florida?

Re:What not to do in a court room (1)

Kjella (173770) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662033)

Well, from the sound of it he's on his way out the door as a practising attorney anyway. I'm sure there are positions available in the "rabid violent game protestor" section along with all the other moral police for swear words on TV and in lyrics and whatnot though. In that crowd I think the more rabid the better, so all PR is good PR. He might as well go out with a really loud bang, perhaps become a big enough phenomenon to have pet lawyers do the actual legal filings.

Re:What not to do in a court room (1)

fluffy99 (870997) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662125)

And don't ever tell a judge they "don't have the authority".

Even if you're probably right? Just reading his letter, he certainly has enough dirt on the judge and knowledge of the legal loopholes that he just might snake through this.

Such anger (3, Funny)

Starteck81 (917280) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661649)

All that pent up anger of his is finally coming out. I wouldn't be surprised if he went on a shooting spree like the troubled people he says were driven to violence by video games. I think he should try a violent video game and see just how cathartic it can be.

IANAL, but seriously (0, Offtopic)

vandelais (164490) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661659)

IANAL!

Re:IANAL, but seriously (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23661891)

JTINALA!

(Jack Thompson is not a lawyer, anymore)

Y'all (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23661661)

would love it if someone you liked did that.

Now I wonder what will Fox News do? (2, Insightful)

TRAyres (1294206) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661671)

Who will they turn to when they need inaccurate video game 'murder simulation' fear mongering news pieces? Who will yell, "Think of the children!" (when the obvious answer should be "Their parents, not your goddamn nanny-state...." Who will attach pornographic images in unrelated cases? ...This is a sad day. Its like losing the local bum who says crazy shit but it is always funny, ya know?

Re:Now I wonder what will Fox News do? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23661701)

Whatever happened to Lt. Col. Dave "Stop Teaching Our Kids to Kill!" Grossman? Seems like he left the playing field when Jack showed up.

Re:Now I wonder what will Fox News do? (1)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661745)

Who will they turn to when they need inaccurate video game 'murder simulation' fear mongering news pieces? Who will yell, "Think of the children!" (when the obvious answer should be "Their parents, not your goddamn nanny-state...."

Don't get me wrong here, I'm delighted by the news. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving censorious asshat. But there's a danger here, and the danger is that he may be replaced by someone not stupid. Imagine someone with the same media contacts and crusading think-of-the-children mentality, without the paranoia, hubris, overweening pride, latent psychopathy, egomania, idiocy and general fruitbattiness that Thompson exhibits...

Re:Now I wonder what will Fox News do? (1)

nuzak (959558) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662065)

But there's a danger here, and the danger is that he may be replaced by someone not stupid.

It's not as if they've been holding back and saying "oh hey I'll let Jack Thompson speak for us". With a little less sensationalist massacre-chasing going on, perhaps we can get back to meaningful and respectful dialog. At least where cable news isn't concerned.

Re:Now I wonder what will Fox News do? (1)

Kierthos (225954) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662089)

Yes, but if doesn't have all of those "wonderful qualities" that we just so admire in Jack Thompson, then there's also the possibility that he will be able to engage in a debate on video games without degenerating into name calling and wild speculation. Imagine someone who wants to block violent video games from children's ready access, but is willing to discuss the matter in a calm and rational manner?

Re:Now I wonder what will Fox News do? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23662123)

i don't really worry about that happening for the same reason that i don't stay up nights worrying that someone sane is going to start publishing chick tracts: it's an inherantly stupid, irrational position, and no one smart or rational is going to start arguing it any time soon

Re:Now I wonder what will Fox News do? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23661761)

"Who will they turn to when they need inaccurate video game 'murder simulation' fear mongering news pieces?"

Er... Hillary Clinton?

Re:Now I wonder what will Fox News do? (1)

riceboy50 (631755) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661807)

What I wonder is why anyone thinks disbarment will make any difference in terms of his crusade against gaming? If Fox News et al were trusting his status as an expert in the field before, this won't change that.

Bababooey! (3, Informative)

Babbster (107076) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661687)

Jack Thompson: "Because I took on Bar complainant, Al Cardenas, the Howard Stern Show is off terrestrial radio and his influence diminished."

Really, Jack? I thought it was because Sirius offered Stern a free hand with content and over $100 million per year on a 5-year contract.

Re:Bababooey! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23661879)

People have to listen to Stern. How many headlines has Stern made since jumping ship to Sirius? What? None?
If Stern really thought his 'battle' against the FCC had some worth then surely he'd remain a thorn in the FCC's hide until things change because he's louder and squeakier than Jack Thompson. Now Stern has a captive yet adoring audience who will laugh at anything he says like little Robin Quiverses who won't have an iota of criticism, constructive or otherwise.
Pretty much Stern's getting a paid retirement before he bids farewell to broadcast media. All those Sirius receivers were being pre-installed in new vehicles which bumped up Sirius's subscriptions and that tactic has been criticised a lot on Slashdot when it comes to computers, operating systems and proprietary web browsers.
Let's not even get into the whole Stern taking off on Fridays and making people suffer through Ralph and re-runs. He's old, he's played out, the Sybian was old after Buck Angel rode it.

Re:Bababooey! (3, Informative)

Babbster (107076) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661941)

Well said. [google.com]

Uhmmm.... (2, Informative)

bryanporter (847667) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661737)

Three words:

1. He
2. Is
3. Insane

'Nuff said.

He might have a point... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23661755)

In his statement he claims that the judge's oath of loyalty is invalid, which would make the judge's appointment invalid. He could actually have a point.

You probably don't want to hear this, but ... (3, Insightful)

MacTO (1161105) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661765)

Being disbarred is not about his personal opinion, nor your personal opinion, about video games. It is about his ability to practice law. I also find it ironic that people who are so keen on the freedom of speech are so eager to find a way to gag or demean someone that they don't agree with. That's not civil behaviour. It is childish behaviour. (My apologies to the children of the world.)

I'm not a member of the bar... (3, Insightful)

argent (18001) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661831)

I'm not a member of the bar. Does this mean my right to free speech has been curtailed? By whom? By myself, for never having attempted to pass a law exam I'm unqualified to pass? You have to be a practicing lawyer to enjoy the right of free speech? I don't get it. Seriously. What are you talking about?

Re:You probably don't want to hear this, but ... (4, Insightful)

hedwards (940851) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661971)

I'm not sure anybody here cares about the why. Personally, I mainly hate his guts because of the incredibly low standards he's applied to the practice of law. The prosecuting attorney that led that witch hunt against the Duke lacrosse players also got disbarred for his extremely unprofessional actions.

Really in both of those cases the reason why people hate them is that they were abusing the legal system for personal gain, being disbarred is what is supposed to happen in those cases.

Freedom of speech yes, abuse of due process no. (4, Insightful)

EWAdams (953502) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662047)

Freedom of speech includes his right to spout nonsense and our right to tell him he should STFU. As long as we don't actually hold our hands over his mouth (tempting as it may be), he hasn't been gagged by being told to STFU. Freedom of speech includes the right to say, "You are wrong and should not say what you are saying."

As for his flagrant abuse of the legal process in order to advance his political agenda... that can and should be stopped, and it doesn't constitute gagging him either. It should be stopped because it's abuse of the law. It also should be stopped because he's wrong.

Re:You probably don't want to hear this, but ... (4, Informative)

nuzak (959558) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662145)

I'll be brief: I'm unapologetically ready and eager to gag and demean someone who himself crusades to do precisely the same of both to others.

Jack Thompson was even involved in the 80's daycare scare (the "ritual satanic abuse") that ruined dozens of lives. For that alone, he is not simply strident, objectionable, or obstreperous, but really and truly evil. Schadenfreude may be shameful, but today I nonetheless feel the joy.

Judge's oath (1)

Iamthecheese (1264298) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661769)

Can anyone address the legality of an oath taken too long after the judge started practice?

Re:Judge's oath (1)

aeschenkarnos (517917) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662191)

I would make the case that "oaths of office" are mere ceremonial acknowledgement of actual occupation of the office. The occupation of the office is created firstly by the appointment, by a person authorized to do so (recursively), of the occupier to the office, and secondly by the acceptance, by word and deed, of the occupier of the responsibilities of the office. Providing social security number and bank deposit details and next of kin to the payroll department would, in my view, provide greater evidence of intention to serve in the position than the taking or otherwise of an oath.

Generally whatever is sworn in the office is what you are supposed to do. If your office requires you to "uphold the constitution" (whatever that means - and I would expect someone who occupies such an office should have a firm idea), then that's what you're supposed to do, whether you took an oath or not, from before you even take the oath, 'til the day you leave the office (and after, in many cases). If you're going to not uphold the constitution, an "oath" will not stop you.

It's a relic of feudalism and in the modern context is about as serious a matter as "did we have a staff morning tea with drinks to welcome her?".

Now What? (2, Insightful)

mqduck (232646) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661777)

I don't understand how these things work. Can someone explain to people like me what this "recommendation" means in the immediate sense? Does it get rubber-stamped? Are there further hearings? When will the guy *actually* be disbarred?

Re:Now What? (3, Informative)

nuzak (959558) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662189)

Tunis has basically handed the charge to the FL Supreme Court, who will rule on it on Sep 2. They may strike one or more charges, but he's got 27 racked up against him, so it hardly matters.

It would take a wormhole opened into bizarro world for them to actually overturn the recommendation. The worst they might do within the realm of probability is disqualify Tunis and make Jack do it all over again.

My guess is Thompson's behavior will be such that they may actually pass down a harsher judgment.

Loyalty oaths? Say what? (1)

argent (18001) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661779)

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, Over?

Re:Loyalty oaths? Say what? (2, Funny)

glittalogik (837604) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662003)

Roger that, Thompson. Golf Tango Foxtrot, Over.

Re:Loyalty oaths? Say what? (1)

Kierthos (225954) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662009)

Florida has a statute which requires all judges (among other state officials) to sign a loyalty oath requiring them to uphold the Constitution of the United States. (Actually, I believe the state law affirms the Federal Law requiring the same thing, but hey....)

One of Jumpin' Jack Thompson's ploys is that one or more of the judges who are obviously in collusion against him have either not signed said loyalty oath, or forged it, or whatever. He's also tried to have the Florida Bar Association declared unconstitutional, asked the Federal Government to investigate the Florida Bar on possible racketeering charges, tried to sue the Florida Bar, and so on. So, he doesn't confine his nut-jobbery to the video game world. He's also been tilting at windmills against basically the entire Florida state legal system for over a decade and a half.

It's party time! (1)

Kierthos (225954) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661781)

P A R T .... Why? Because we gotta!

Let's see, this also means that the various shit-brained news media should stop having him offering commentary on anything, because "disbarred lawyer" doesn't have that same ring of confidence as "crazy old coot" does.

Didn't stop Billy Jeff (1)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662155)

Let's see, this also means that the various shit-brained news media should stop having him offering commentary on anything, because "disbarred lawyer" doesn't have that same ring of confidence as "crazy old coot" does.

Being a disbarred lawyer doesn't seem to have hurt Bill Clinton's speaking fees.

Don't be surprised if you see MORE of him - as he seeks to use his notoriety to pull in a few bux to replace the lost income now that he can't practice law.

Re:Didn't stop Billy Jeff (1)

Kierthos (225954) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662211)

Yes. but Billy-boy was also the President. I think that commands just a wit bit more respect then "out of touch loonie".

I think he needs another kind of hearing. (1)

jcr (53032) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661783)

Seriously, with the way this clown's been screwing himself over, shouldn't his family get him admitted to a mental institution for evaluation?

-jcr

top secret inside information: GTA5 (5, Funny)

Lazy Jones (8403) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661805)

In GTA5 you'll play a lawyer who has had enough ...

Pretty soon, we won't be hearing about JT (1)

StaticEngine (135635) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661809)

These guys always wind up the same. I predict that like Kent Hovind, Thompson will soon be tried for some crime that will land him behind bars for quite a few years. The ones who are loud and filled with self-righteous conviction are also the types of people who believe the law doesn't apply to them, and they inevitably wind up on the wrong side of that very same law.

Re:Pretty soon, we won't be hearing about JT (1)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662061)

He's obsessed with pornography and children both.

How does this stop him? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23661843)

Can't he just get a license in another state and pick up from there?

Stepping over the line hasn't stopped other professionals from moving their operations to other states.

Another did the same... (0, Troll)

Ceiynt (993620) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661865)

I recall someone named Suddam who continually told a judge he didn't have the authority to hear the case. We all know how that turned out.

I wonder... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23661881)

From Jack Thompson's arguments:

Fourthly, most of what I am charged with I did not do on behalf of any client but in pursuit of efforts to secure enforcement of laws for the common good. The Florida Supreme Court ruled, again in English so that any rational person can understand, in Florida Bar v. Brake, that a lawyer cannot violate Rule 4-8.4(d) unless he is "engaged in the practice of law on behalf of a client." I had no client, Referee Tunis, in almost all of this, and thus you have had no jurisdiction over any of that. You have ignored this clear Florida Supreme Court ruling, and you will be undone by this cavalier disregard for the law in this regard as well.
Anyone want to take bets on whether the proverb that "a man who represents himself in court has a fool for a client" appears in the decision disbarring him?

And he ran (1)

Overkill Nbuta (1035654) | more than 6 years ago | (#23661929)

And he ran, he ran so far away. he just ran, he ran all night and day. he couldnt get away.

Anyone else remember that GTA commercial? Was it a Canadian only thing? I think that is a very apt song for this situation and all the more ironic it was in the GTA commercial.

Karma's a bitch aint it?

First Ammendment (3, Insightful)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662019)

He's all about protecting the First Ammendment. From Wikipedia:

In January 2006, Thompson asked the Justice Department to investigate the Florida Bar's actions. "The Florida Bar and its agents have engaged in a documented pattern of this illegal activity, which may sink to the level of criminal racketeering activity, in a knowing and illegal effort to chill my federal First Amendment rights," Thompson wrote in a letter to Alex Acosta, interim U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida.[121]

Favorite quote (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23662027)

"This just proves that sitting on the highest court in the state neither make you clever."


Apparently having a law degree doesn't mean you have any command of the English language either!

We can ignore him now (5, Funny)

adona1 (1078711) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662035)

From TFA:
You have been so cruel and at the same time so foolish as to call my pleadings herein "propaganda." That word means something, given how propaganda was used in the last century by the Third Reich in Nazi Germany

He Godwinned himself straight out of the gate. Next /. story, please!

Re:We can ignore him now (3, Insightful)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662173)

He wrote a letter to Take Two CEO's mother saying she raised him to be a member of the Hitler Youth.

I wonder how many times he Godwinned himself.

Childish phrase: (1)

NoobixCube (1133473) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662079)

That's it! I'm taking my ball, and going home!

You fools! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23662083)

You foolish slashdotters. Don't you realize that Jack Thompson came closer to giving us what we want than anyone else?

If Jack's plan had succeeded for Halo 3, GTAIV, CoD4, etc, then I would never have to listen to a 11-year-old child screaming in my ear about his prepubescent views on life while he rapes me 15 kills to 4, since it's all he does all day, every day. In fact, he could get his xbox live account cancelled if I lost to him and decided to report his underaged cowlick.

You hear the name "Jack Thompson" and shriek like banshees, but in fact, he was going to keep underaged gamers out of our servers, and for that, he would have been a savior to the online FPS community, not a villain that you portray him to be. Think for yourselves on this.

Thanks to this blind tomfoolery, things will never get better, because no one will dare enforce age guidelines lest they receive a similar fate, and you'll be losing to castrato-voiced 9-year olds telling you how your mother was the last time they slept with her for the rest of your geriatric lives.

Re:You fools! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23662225)

...or we could just stop playing children's games if we don't feel like dealing with a bunch of kids

Obligatory (2, Insightful)

Godji (957148) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662149)

Hit the road, Jack, and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more... Hit the road, Jack, and don't you come back no more!

He's the guy who made "2 Live Crew" famous (4, Interesting)

Animats (122034) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662201)

Thompson started his career as a loudmouth by complaining about some rap from "2 Live Crew" back in the early 1990s. I bought the 2 Live Crew CD to see what all the fuss was about. They were a terrible rap group, at the low end of the garage-band level. My comment at the time was that "this group would never have gotten off the South Florida club circuit without the censorship attempt".

Similar To... (1)

maz2331 (1104901) | more than 6 years ago | (#23662213)

Saddam. He did the same thing (argued with the judge, tried to walk out of court, etc.)

Too bad it's just disbarment at stake here.

GTA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23662231)

If the guys who made GTA had any balls they would have had a Thompson look-a-like NPC come running to the scene of accidents in the game, right behind the ambulances.
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