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Firefox 3 Hits Release Candidate 2

CmdrTaco posted more than 6 years ago | from the unleash-the-upgrades dept.

Mozilla 395

Barence noted that Firefox has announced release candidate 2 of their highly popular web browser. You can read the release notes while you download. And since my copy just finished downloading, I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any

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Read this (0, Redundant)

qrwe (625937) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666467)

..with RC2 already. To late..

Crash (3, Informative)

kj0rn (731521) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666539)

I've been using the pre alpha nightlies, then the alpha then betas and finally tried RC1

This crashed as soon as it started up

RC2 shows a web page but crashes as soon as I click on anything...

I'm using XP which is up to date with all patches. I know most tricks on how to get FF working... but I am stumpted as to why both RCs are so fucked on my computer. I've had to revert back to FF2 and I miss the URL bar and tagging :-(

Re:Crash (1)

toleraen (831634) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666641)

Did you start with a fresh profile?

To late? (3, Funny)

Icarium (1109647) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666761)

If it's gone to late, will it be back?

Yeah, I suck as a spelling Nazi.

Re:To late? (0, Troll)

Smidge207 (1278042) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666899)

No, partner, you suck as a grammar Nazi.

=Smidge=

Actual Release Notes (4, Informative)

MankyD (567984) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666493)

Anyone have the actual RC2 release notes instead of just the Ffx3 general release notes?

Re:Actual Release Notes (-1, Flamebait)

protobion (870000) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666547)

scroll up on the link, boy.

Re:Actual Release Notes (-1, Redundant)

Rhapsody Scarlet (1139063) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667281)

Firefox 3 Release Candidate 2 Release Notes [mozilla.com]

I found it linked to on the Firefox 3 download page [mozilla.com] .

Re:Actual Release Notes (2, Informative)

Rhapsody Scarlet (1139063) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667405)

Argh. DISREGARD, that's the same bloody page that's in the article.

Well, it's a release candidate anyway so there's not going to be any new features. It'll be critical bugfixes only, which is probably why there's no dedicated release notes, they'll arrive for the final version. I'm guessing you could search Bugzilla to find recent fixes of critical or blocker bugs, but it's running pretty slowly now and I wouldn't know how to make such a search, so I'm leaving now.

Re:Actual Release Notes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23667457)

http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3/StatusMeetings/2008-05-27

Old Look? (2, Insightful)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666523)

Are there any themes or settings where we can set everything back to the way it was? I'd love to look into the new back end features but I hate the new UI.

(I'm one of those guys that still has the single close tab in the upper right corner rather than on each tab).

Re:Old Look? (1)

spandex_panda (1168381) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666607)

can't you just drag and drop the UI around? The first thing I do is add a 'open new tab' button to the right of home. I really like the new address box search function.

Re:Old Look? (1)

Brian Gordon (987471) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666695)

Yep, same here [imageshack.us] (FF3rc2 looking like FF2 wooo).. thought the address box search is really ugly when I already know the url and like 15 unrelated URLs are covering my screen while I type.

Re:Old Look? (1)

Intron (870560) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667285)

Ctrl-T, open in new tab preference, and right clicking in the tab bar aren't enough? You also need a button?

Re:Old Look? (5, Informative)

Brian Gordon (987471) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666629)

Firefox 2.0 Classic theme [mozilla.org] works great but to use it you have to:
-Register and log in to Firefox Addons
-Attempt to override the version check and install the theme
-Go to your %appdata% just after it fails and look for the temp XPI that it downloaded
-Copy it to the desktop and extract it with winrar
-Change the RDF file's <maxversion> to * or 3.0RC2 or something
-Zip the files back up, normal compression, rename to xpi
-Drag the file off the desktop into your firefox window to install!

Re:Old Look? (2, Informative)

plover (150551) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666965)

Here's another way to override the version that doesn't involve editing the XPI of everything you want to install:

http://lifehacker.com/355973/make-your-extensions-work-with-the-firefox-3-beta [lifehacker.com]

I've done this and nothing complains about compatibility any more. Of course, there's a huge downside: nothing guarantees compatibility any more, either!

So far, I've found that old themes do not work very well (I miss Pinball!) In my case, they caused the scrollbar on the right side to disappear. On the positive side, all of my extensions seem to work fine, and I run a lot of them. (13 of my extensions claim to not be Firefox 3.0 compatible, but still work.)

Retroactively screwed up? (5, Funny)

qwertphobia (825473) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666555)

Wow, the update retroactively screwed up the story submission? That's slick!

I was just thinking, I will have just upgraded by the time I am done reading this po

Re:Retroactively screwed up? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23666591)

In Soviet Russia Firefox updates YOU!

Re:Retroactively screwed up? (3, Funny)

mangu (126918) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666683)

In Soviet Russia Firefox updates YOU!

Yes, but you have to think in Russian [imdb.com]

Re:Retroactively screwed up? (5, Funny)

Brian Gordon (987471) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666651)

Oh lord you don't get the joke at all. The point is that he just

Re:Retroactively screwed up? (1)

laejoh (648921) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666687)

Yeah, but he did it all wrong, it should have looked like:

Oh lord you don't get the joke at all. The point is that he just #@!kks@9)&^^ÂÂ'é

NO CARRIER

Re:Retroactively screwed up? (1)

junglee_iitk (651040) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666691)

I am a subscriber, and I can see the stories before they are posted. I mailed "Big daddy" that the story is incomplete. Apparently, they don't even bother with it (anymore?)

Re:Retroactively screwed up? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23666891)

Woooshhhhh

Re:Retroactively screwed up? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23666745)

Candlejack isn't even present in this threa

Re:Retroactively screwed up? (5, Funny)

harry666t (1062422) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667197)

It's not funny anymore, how many times can you see people making the same joke again and again in a single thread?

Stop it here, ple

Re:Retroactively screwed up? (5, Funny)

S.O.B. (136083) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667299)

OK, you're taking it to f

Problems? (0, Redundant)

Rik Sweeney (471717) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666567)

And since my copy just finished downloading, I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any

Clearly, you did...

Re:Problems? (1)

alx5000 (896642) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666671)

Clearly, you whooshed...

what about minefield? (1)

amnezick (1253408) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666575)

i've been using minefield for a while now but i don't really care about these r2d2 releases. as long as it doesn't crash and webdeveloper, javascriptdebugger and foxmarks extensions work i'm happy.

fill in the blanks (5, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666597)

I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any
Taco wants us to complete his post. My suggestions:

I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any weasels in my trousers.

I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any eels in my hovercraft.

I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any embarrassing mistakes visible to the entire world, or at least as much of the world as comes here when bored.

Re:fill in the blanks (2, Funny)

spandex_panda (1168381) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666715)

ok ok i got one...

I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any gerbils in my trousers.

I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any Hilary Clinton memorabilia lying around still.

I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any trouble

he heheeh he he uh.... hm....

Re:fill in the blanks (1)

Icarium (1109647) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666719)

It's not blank. There's a picture of a scary looking dinosaur head right there! I'd also stop typing if CowboyNe, er, a big scary dinosaur was coming for me!

Re:fill in the blanks (4, Funny)

Ctrl-Z (28806) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666841)

Those wouldn't be iceweasels in his trousers, would they?

Re:fill in the blanks (2, Funny)

plover (150551) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666979)

If I had to guess, I think they'd be hot grits in his breakfast pants.

Re:fill in the blanks (5, Funny)

GPado (1225224) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666941)

I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any motherfucking snakes on my motherfucking plane.

It's more likely than you think (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667081)

weasels in my trousers [...] eels in my hovercraft [...] embarrassing mistakes in my post
It's more likely than you think [encycloped...matica.com] .

Re:fill in the blanks (3, Funny)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667127)

I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any browsers in Soviet Russia installing ME!!!

I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have anyone welcoming our new customizable, multi-tabbed, XUL-based browser overlords!

Re:fill in the blanks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23667273)

African or European weasels?

It's a mad lib! (1)

steelfood (895457) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667313)

I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any cooties.

I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any grues.

I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any women to nag at me.

I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any pizza that's been sitting in the fridge for more than a month.

I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any other nerds squatting in mom's my basement.

I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any comments that stop in the middle of a sentence on the front page of slashdot.

I'm excited about changeset 15261:49cdeb4f8144 (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23666615)

Just earlier today I was exhilarated to hear about changeset 15261:49cdeb4f8144 [mozilla.org] .

Words cannot even begin to describe the anticipation building around the next changeset that will be made to Firefox. Hold on very tight everyone, the next one is going to change the world in ways you never imagined!

Installer? (1)

lasercats (1255234) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666639)

I just downloaded this, and the installer wanted to save to ..\Program Files\Mozilla\Firefox 3 Beta 5. Maybe they just didn't update the installer?

Re:Installer? (1)

Idbar (1034346) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667069)

They did that since RC1, I guess they don't want to fill your computer with tons of copies as they did with Beta 2, Beta 3, etc, that I installed and remain there in different directories.

Momory Issues? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23666645)

Have they address the memory issues? Or do they still insist that it is all a figment of the non-technical "user" imagination?

Re:Momory Issues? (4, Informative)

bunratty (545641) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666725)

Re:Momory Issues? (1)

Icarium (1109647) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666883)

I hate not knowing if a poster's first language is English. Makes it difficult to weed out the easy targets.:/

Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (5, Insightful)

Viol8 (599362) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666649)

..that have been around for years such as this one:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=235853 [mozilla.org]

Then I won't hold my breath for this release to me any more reliable or stable than any other from the last N years. Its about time they stopped doing a Microsoft and dicking about with "coooo , its so preeetty" UI stuff and bloatware functionalty that no one needs and starting fixing bloody bugs!

Yeah mod me down fanboys, see if I care, I'm just a user ,what do I know.

Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (1)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666669)

Your linky doesn't go anywhere.

Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (1)

Viol8 (599362) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666709)

Works fine for me.

Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666803)

Bugzilla might be rejecting incoming links from slashdot.org. Turn off referrers or just click on the link, click stop, and then click on the url bar and press enter.

Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23666865)

https links don't pass referrer data you retarded faggot

Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (1)

Kamineko (851857) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666849)

A critical hang bug:

Defer proxy resolution for HTTP and HTTPS PAC to avoid blocking main thread during DNS resolution

User-Agent:
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040225

This bug has been split from #224447 as the symptoms are different. I will copy
relevant comments from #224447 into this bug report.

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Go to Preferences, Advanced, Proxies
2. Select "Automatic Proxy Configuration URL"
3. Enter a URL to a valid PAC file
4. Click OK
5. Browse a website (particularly one with many offsite adds/images)

Actual Results:
DNS resolution causes the UI to hang

Expected Results:
DNS resolution should not cause the UI to hang (it doesn't when using either
"Direct connection to the Internet" or "Manual Proxy Configuration")

Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (1)

bunratty (545641) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666851)

Mozilla developers did try to fix it, but the patch failed a regression test and didn't make it for Gecko 1.9 (Firefox 3). I'm sure that for every release of Firefox, you can find some serious bug fix that didn't make the release. Likewise, I'm sure you can do the same for any major software project.

Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (3, Informative)

binaryspiral (784263) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666907)

Mozilla developers did try to fix it, but the patch failed a regression test and didn't make it for Gecko 1.9 (Firefox 3). I'm sure that for every release of Firefox, you can find some serious bug fix that didn't make the release. Likewise, I'm sure you can do the same for any major software project.
Insert obligatory Vista joke here.

Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666873)

Under OSX I have regular problems with firefox consuming all available memory (I only have 12 gig in this machine) by lunchtime. I also have times when it will suddenly stop allowing you to input any text and have to crash firefox to get it back.

I have reported the bugs, but do not see the problems get better with each beta or rc release.

Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (1)

djseomun (1119637) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667041)

"Only" 12 gigs? I hope you're not talking about RAM.

Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (1)

barzok (26681) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667349)

FF3 betas and RCs have been far better about memory consumption on both my Mac and Thinkpad than any previous FF release. On OS X, it's better than Safari as well.

Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (1)

Eric Pierce (636318) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667183)

> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=235853 [mozilla.org]
"Bug 235853 - [PAC] Defer proxy resolution for HTTP and HTTPS PAC to avoid blocking main thread during DNS resolution"

Uh... real show stopper there, pal. Still rocking the web with Lynx?

Eric

Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667187)

Agreed. You should all note that if you're using Linux and your $HOME directory is mounted on CIFS [mozilla.org] , your profile will NOT load.

Despite the fact that this works on Firefox 2, my request for this bug to block Firefox 3's release was denied because "it wasn't a regression from Ffx 2." (Which, clearly, it was.)

Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (1)

SilverJets (131916) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667239)

Wow that's interesting because I used a PAC file for 5 years and never had a single issue with Firefox.

Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (1)

andrewd18 (989408) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667267)

Its about time they stopped doing a Microsoft and dicking about with "coooo , its so preeetty" UI stuff and bloatware functionalty that no one needs and starting fixing bloody bugs!
I haven't seen any memory leaks in 3 yet. Its Javascript engine is light years faster. It doesn't have Edit -> Preferences alongside Tools -> Options anymore, just a single location at Tools -> Options.

Have fun waiting for HURD-fox 1.0. In the mean time, I'll take what's available.

Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (1)

darkmeridian (119044) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667461)

Can someone please mod this guy down? How is this a critical bug, and what does he use--Internet Explorer? Firefox 3 is the best browser out there in terms of functionality, features, reliability, security, and availability. (Safari is nice, but only for Macs. Opera doesn't work with many banking and financial web sites that work fine with Firefox. Internet Explorer is Internet Explorer.)

The Mozilla developers have made Firefox 3 faster, more responsive, and more reliable than Firefox 2. The features were added without bloating up the program at all. Software has bugs, and nitpicking without pointing out BETTER alternatives is kind of stupid.

Works for me. (2, Informative)

linko47 (1253010) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666657)

Just clicked help > check for updates in Debian. Upgraded just fine and is working as normal. :-)

Who cares! (5, Funny)

Kamineko (851857) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666667)

None of us have any, you insensitive clod!

Beta, Beta, Beta, Beta, Beta, RC, RC (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666827)

Just release the damn thing already!

Sudden end!?!? (5, Funny)

that_itch_kid (1155313) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666869)

I hope I don't have any
...any what!?!? Memory leaks!?!? Fried CPUs!!? WHAT!?!? OH GOD, IT'S TAKEN HIM!! IT'S GOING TO KILL US ALL!!!

firefox wishlist (1)

distantbody (852269) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666889)

1. option NOT to save descriptions with bookmarks
2. Store only ONE copy of a favicon if more than one bookmark uses it, bookmarks.html could do with being a lot smaller.
3. drag text down page/between tabs

Of course all of these could be made as addons, but as I have not been able to find such addons, they might as well be built in as they should represent core functionality. My final secret little dream addon is a grammar addon, oh how the net could be a better place ;)

Re:firefox wishlist (2, Funny)

andrewd18 (989408) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667427)

My final secret little dream addon is a grammar addon, oh how the net could be a better place ;)
Only you can prevent Grammar-ton Clerics.

Firefox is starting to give me the shits (-1, Troll)

syousef (465911) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666895)

- New versions break older extensions. Until the extension is updated, bye bye extension. I don't enjoy that hassle and it makes me think twice about upgrading.

- Old versions constantly redirect to a page suggesting you upgrade. I don't want my software to nag me into submission thanks. I don't need to be babysat.

- New versions force you to use new features without providing functionality to back it out even when the user wants it. Eg. The new supercoolsearchbar garbage. I don't want my browser looking though my bookmarks when I type a URL but I don't mind it searching history that clears itself regularly.

- Firefox is the one application i use regularly that I find myself killing using task manager regularly. It either hangs or hogs memory which is only released by restarting. Don't deny or try to explain in excruciating technical detail why the browser slowly saps all your memory if left on a page that refreshes itself regularly. It's a bug. Deal with it. Fix it. Even refuse to fix it. But stop denying there are memory management issues.

- There's no graceful way to exit that doesn't pop up a thousand confirmations if you do keep the close tab confirmation active.

- I can't download and keep my extensions for future install. I really don't like using up bandwidth downloading the same extensions each time I install Firefox.

Firefox USE to be a better user experience than IE. I can't say that anymore and it stinks that I can't. I want my Firefox browser back!

Re:Firefox is starting to give me the shits (1)

bunratty (545641) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666949)

Don't deny or try to explain in excruciating technical detail why the browser slowly saps all your memory if left on a page that refreshes itself regularly. It's a bug. Deal with it. Fix it. Even refuse to fix it. But stop denying there are memory management issues.
If you're seeing that problem, it should be fixed. Could you give the URL of a page that refreshes itself and causes Firefox to use more and more memory? What OS (including version) and version of Firefox are you using? Did you try creating a new profile?

Re:Firefox is starting to give me the shits (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23667101)

Are you serious? Have you ever used Firefox?

Right now, I have one tab open, to this page, and FF is using 210MB simply because it's been open for a while and I've been using it without restarting it.

Re:Firefox is starting to give me the shits (1)

Fri13 (963421) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667093)

- New versions force you to use new features without providing functionality to back it out even when the user wants it. Eg. The new supercoolsearchbar garbage. I don't want my browser looking though my bookmarks when I type a URL but I don't mind it searching history that clears itself regularly.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6227 [mozilla.org]

Or type to addressbar about:config and search "browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped" and set it as "true"

Re:Firefox is starting to give me the shits (1)

colesw (951825) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667293)

I think you proved his point here. Either you have to download a add on, or go int about:config, why isn't it a option under Tools->Options?

Re:Firefox is starting to give me the shits (1)

tokul (682258) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667135)

I can't download and keep my extensions for future install. I really don't like using up bandwidth downloading the same extensions each time I install Firefox.

1. You don't lose installed extensions each time you upgrade firefox. They are installed in your user's profile.

2. You can download and keep your extensions. Just download xpi files instead of installing them.

Re:Firefox is starting to give me the shits (1)

YojimboJango (978350) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667287)

I feel his pain, those extensions take like 10 seconds to download and install. Woe is me.

Re:Firefox is starting to give me the shits (1)

Phylarr (981216) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667173)

I'd add to that list that there's no way to manage plugins except to manually delete the files.

iTunes has helpfully made itself a FF plugin, and the only way to stop the iTunes plugin from loading when FF launches is to either disable loading of ALL plugins, or delete the npitunes.dll file from my computer. But iTunes puts the file back every time I launch it, so that doesn't really work.

Being complicit in letting a shitty program take over my computer is an unforgivable sin as far as I'm concerned.

Re:Firefox is starting to give me the shits (1)

itamihn (1213328) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667177)

Nightly Tester Tools extension (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6543) solves the extension compatibility for me, in almost every update (i.e. when the version checking is the problem itself, and not real underlying changes)

wait (1)

p51d007 (656414) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667185)

I ran the RC1 in sandboxie, and yep, the extensions are "broken". I have too much time invested in setting up, tweaking etc. Hat's off to you guys who run these betas/RC's. I'll wait a few days after the "final" is released.

Re:Firefox is starting to give me the shits (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23667199)

They are trying to address memory management issues in this release.

http://blog.pavlov.net/2008/03/11/firefox-3-memory-usage/

Re:Firefox is starting to give me the shits (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667235)

Don't deny or try to explain in excruciating technical detail why the browser slowly saps all your memory if left on a page that refreshes itself regularly. It's a bug. Deal with it. Fix it.
If a page is left going for fifteen minutes without any user interaction, it could just stop running scripts on that page until the user presses a key or moves the mouse. Would that be an acceptable fix?

Re:Firefox is starting to give me the shits (1)

dealmaster00 (904299) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667301)

- There's no graceful way to exit that doesn't pop up a thousand confirmations if you do keep the close tab confirmation active.
Actually there is; when you close, you just click the check mark that says "Do not prompt me again when closing x or more tabs."

Re:Firefox is starting to give me the shits (4, Insightful)

JustinOpinion (1246824) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667307)

Huh? Are you using the same "Firefox" as me?

1. What do you mean? Yes, Firefox 3 isn't compatible with (some) Firefox 2 extensions. But then again, Firefox 3 is a whole new version... and it's still at release-candidate level. I've never had extensions break during an incremental upgrade, for instance. (If they become marked as incompatible, that's the fault of the extension author, who should have set compatibility as 2.* or whatever.)

2. I've never seen that. Normally it just downloads the incremental update and applies it on the next restart.

3. Well many of us happen to like the new functionality of the combined address-bar/search-bar. However, it's trivial to return to the old-style behavior if that's what you want (e.g. this [mozilla.org] ). The same is true of most other changes. Firefox is very customizable.

4. Sorry to hear that it's unstable on your system. On the systems I use, Firefox 3 has been decidedly more stable than Firefox 2. Faster, too. From various things I've read, it sounds like the typical experience is that Firefox 3 is faster, more stable, and more robust than Firefox 2. But, as always, your mileage may vary.

5. Huh? When you try to exit, there is a single confirmation box, which can be disabled. It doesn't pop up "a thousand confirmations". Exaggerate much?

6. Huh? I've never had to re-download extensions when upgrading Firefox (even when installing a whole new version). The only time extensions re-download is when a new version of the extension is available. But... how exactly do you propose to get the new version without downloading it?

I'm sorry that you seem to be having troubles with Firefox. From what I can tell, this isn't a typical experience. Also, note that you're most welcome to keep using older versions if they suit you better.

Re:Firefox is starting to give me the shits (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23667337)

http://oldversion.com/

Enjoy and quit whining

Re:Firefox is starting to give me the shits (1)

Inda (580031) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667419)

Who modded this up? What are you, 12?

It's a beta/RC. You're supposed to be testing it, not using it for mission critical eBay auctions and suchlike.

I don't know about the rest of you but I kept FF2 installed alongside FF3b3-RC2. I do not jump through hoops when browsing, I go back to FF2. Yes, I miss some extensions but they are there if I feel the need to hack them about (I don't). Yes, it can be a pain when my bank doesn't support FF3rc2 but they've said they'll support FF3 final, so all is good.

Moaning fuckers.

This, my friends, is... (1)

sheepoo (814409) | more than 6 years ago | (#23666927)

an incomplete article!

Tab Mix Plus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23667019)

Until I can get a stable version of Tab Mix Plus, I'm sticking with FF2.

Advertising and the point of RCs (4, Interesting)

arctanx (1187415) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667049)

One interesting thing I've found talking to average Joe (who doesn't have any personal agenda to fulfil as to whether they use IE or Firefox) is that they find all this Firefox publicity as vain. The first question they ask me when I point out the download day pledge is "When is it coming out?" to which I reply "When they've ironed out the necessary bugs," which doesn't satisfy them. Their opinion is that spreadfirefox.com shouldn't be trying to line them up for a download until it's good and ready. So I would say to other people who are thinking of spreading the word like I did to perhaps hold off until the thing's actually released. Then people can click and get immediate gratification from the FF3 shininess. Certainly, betas and release candidates are very important for testing purposes and I think the people using them should keep that in mind -- if they're sick of updating their extensions, perhaps they should be running stable. Yes there are regular updates to stable, and yes the issue of having to get updated extensions might be able to be addressed by the development team but it's not going to suddenly appear in an RC, so it's a moot point at this stage.

But can it... (4, Interesting)

camperdave (969942) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667061)

One of the features I'd like to see in Firefox is the ability to "tear off" a tab into a new window. My surfing experience is something like this [xkcd.com] . It would be nice to be able to right click on a tab, and convert it to a new browser window.

Re:But can it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23667377)

Ctrl+(L, C, N, V)
Enter

I hope I don't have any (0, Redundant)

russlar (1122455) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667087)

I hope I don't have any
Well, it looks like you did.

Only probelm so far... (1)

Idbar (1034346) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667167)

is the Windows Media Player plug-in for Windows Vista. It doesn't seem to be working for me. (Well, besides of the regular constantly growing memory problem).

ooh-ooh-ooh where is my individual tab threading?? (4, Interesting)

distantbody (852269) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667191)

Having one hung tab make the others unusable is not cool, in addition ive encountered a few infinite 'yes-no dialogue' loops attacks that force you to either select 'yes', or force quite-- an attack vector that shouldn't have gone past v0.1a IMO.

Silverlight? (1)

leuk_he (194174) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667209)

Does silverlight work in this new version?

I cannot tell since google point to old topics and rc2 "release notes" are the ff3 release notes and not rc1-> rc2 release notes.

PLUGIN AUTHORS Listen up! (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23667259)

It would be great if the plugin authors would get on the bandwagon and update their own code, so many of us can upgrade to 3.x. Hint hint.

Hope you don't have any. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23667327)

Judging by the sad looking mug on your wife, Malda, yeah...I can understand why you would hope that.

Acid3 (1)

jbeaupre (752124) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667437)

Still only getting 71 on the Acid3 test (your mileage may vary). As this is the RC, that's probably where it'll stick for the foreseeable future.

Image scaling, finally! (4, Interesting)

PhotoGuy (189467) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667441)

One feature I haven't seen any release notes or anyone else talk about, is true scaling of web pages. It always amazed me that in this day and age, that the Alt-plus and Alt-minus zoom only scaled the text, not the graphics. Not terribly useful for zooming in on a page, or seeing more of a page by zooming out. Opera has had this for ages (from the start?), and it's not as though scaling images is processor intensive (I've written blinding fast C code to do this, with smoothing, myself in the past).

Glad to see this is finally in Firefox. Hopefully they've fixed a couple of other annoyances I've seen; the random refusal to load pages (that load after a restart, or in other browsers), and the failure of Alt-F search to find things that I can see right in front of me on the page.

Why was browser.tabs.loadFolderAndReplace removed? (1)

screevo (701820) | more than 6 years ago | (#23667471)

When I middle click on a folder full of bookmarks, I want it to replace the existing tabs. This is a feature that, in Firefox 2, could be turned on and off. Unfortunately, too many people whined and moaned about not wanting to change a preference. So do they just default it the other way? NO! They strip out the functionality entirely.

Yes, it still exists in about:config. But, the various bug reports on the subject state quite clearly, the functionality is gone.

How much trouble could it have been to leave that feature in place for those of us that use it? I browse by folders, not by individual pages. This means that I'm either going to have to stick with Firefox 2 and hope they continue updating it even after the release of 3, or I'll need to find a new browser.
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