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Verizon Wireless To Buy Alltel For $28B

timothy posted more than 6 years ago | from the all-your-base-stations-that-is dept.

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CWmike writes "Matt Hamblen reports that Verizon Wireless has officially announced an agreement to purchase Alltel for $28.1 billion, which would make the new company the largest wireless carrier in the U.S., with 80 million subscribers. The deal will undoubtedly provoke scrutiny by the Federal Communications Commission and the Department of Justice, they acknowledge. Who loses? 'This [deal] is another nail in the coffin for Sprint," said Michael Voellinger, an analyst at Telwares in Parsippany, N.J. 'Alltel is a highly valuable and strategic roaming partner to the top four providers, and this acquisition would put long-term pressure on pricing and terms of those arrangements.'"

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Obligatory (5, Funny)

Skeet112 (1088203) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674171)

1. Nails
2. Hammer
3. Coffin
4. Profit!!!

Re:Obligatory (2, Informative)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674521)

This sucks.

I've always had Sprint as my cell provider since I got my first phone about 10 years ago. I've been happy with their service, phone plans, and coverage.

I keep hearing nothing but horror stories about other carriers.....

Re:Obligatory (1)

Skeet112 (1088203) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674593)

And on the other side of the page, this is horrible news for people that like Alltel's service, but dislike the pricing/support/service of Verizon...or Sprint for that matter. The only people who seem to be winning here is Verizon and it's customers -- nothing really changes for them.

Re:Obligatory (1)

jcwayne (995747) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674831)

<naive-optimism>Actually things will get better for we Verizon people.</naive-optimism> I live in one of the great tracts of 100-year, government sanctioned, Alltel monopoly territory. Verizon's data services never quite work right here. But, it's a company phone so I'm stuck.

Re:Obligatory (5, Funny)

mapsjanhere (1130359) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674853)

Yes, I'm one of the Alltel customers, I found out when I got a call from an unknown number, asking me
"Can you here me now?"

Re:Obligatory (5, Interesting)

contrapunctus (907549) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674971)

I had verizon. I hated the phone lockdown. So I switched to Midwest Wireless. They were awesome. They didn't mess with the phones. They were friendly. If you canceled or got a new phone they would prorate the cancellation penalty (If you sign a 2 year contract, and cancel after 1 year, you would only pay half the penalty, etc).
Alltel bought Midwest Wireless. I can't get google calendar notifications (until very recently) anymore. Not so friendly. I was pondering leaving Alltel.

It's full circle, if Verizon buys Alltel, I'm back with Verizon.

Fuck it. Time to get an iPhone.

Re:Obligatory (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674995)

On the other hand, Sprint has always had the worst coverage anywhere I've used it.

Last time I tried it, I had it for about 2 weeks. 75% of my calls were dropped, and 100% of calls when I was driving. And there were constant dropouts in the conversations.

I got T-mobile and was happy with it. A year later, I sold my Sprint phone to a friend and he signed up with Sprint. He was okay with the service, but when I called him I recognized the dropouts and dropped calls. I warned him before, and I kept pointing it out, but he said he didn't have a problem with it.

I've switched from T-Mobile to Verizon (T-Mobile reduced its handset offerings). And they're about the same. Almost no calls get dropped with either one. And Verizon's data transfer rate is literall 10X as fast as what I had with T-Mobile.

If you have a problem with the conglomeration, complain to your legislators. Slashdot doesn't have a vote.

I can't wait for Metal Gear Solid 4 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23674585)

Paramedic, Sigint, Zero, Ocelot, EVA, and Big Boss formed the Patriots. They were all inspired by The Boss' sacrifice and ideals.

Big Boss grew disillusioned with the direction the Patriots (under Zero's leadership) were taking, so he steadily distanced himself

Zero counters this by authorizing Les Enfants Terribles, with Paramedic heading the project and EVA as the surrogate mother.

Big Boss finds out, and cuts himself off entirely from the Patriots. He is defeated twice by Solid Snake. Following his second defeat, his body is recovered and put into an indefinite coma for study. His unique biometrics would lend to the creation of the SSS, which would lead into the SOP System.

EVA and Ocelot, also disillusioned with the group, endeavor to take down the Patriots from within.

Paramedic is killed by Gray Fox. She was the doctor in charge of the project to revive and transform him.

Sigint (DARPA Chief Donald Anderson) was killed by Ocelot.

Zero becomes increasingly senile and decrepit. He decides that instead of recruiting more members into the Patriots, he will have AI control the functions.

By 2014, the Patriots is completely automated, AI controlled. Zero is only physically alive, his mind long since gone away.

Ocelot has steadily shifted Solid Snake away from the control of the Patriots. He intends to use Snake to destroy the Patriots once and for all.

Great... (1, Insightful)

cjb658 (1235986) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674177)

Now our only choices will be AT&T and Verizon.

I for one welcome our new corporate overlords!

Re:Great... (2, Insightful)

Constantine XVI (880691) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674261)

Even though T-Mobile doesn't have the greatest penetration in the US, they are (AFAIK) turning a profit, and have even bigger corporate backing from DT in Germany. That same backing also (hopefully) reduces the chances of a buyout.

Sprint, unfortunately, has neither of those advantages.

Re:Great... (1)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674337)

Sprint does, however, have the cheapest wireless data plans in the US. I guess we can kiss those goodbye soon.

I guess I can hope the FCC says "no" to this deal...

Re:Great... (1)

Constantine XVI (880691) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674433)

Actually, T-Mobile has the cheapest. According to Sprint's site, a data plan is $30 a month. I pay T-Mobile $20 for my BIS* package. Granted, it's EDGE, but it's fast enough (usually ~300kb/s, tops out around 500), and tethering is free. However, Sprint's $99/mo pure unlimited does beat out T-Mobile's (which doesn't include data).

*BlackBerry Internet Service

Re:Great... (1)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674693)

If you have a PDA phone, Sprint's unlimited data plan is $15/month including tethering via bluetooth.

Re:Great...Ordering of Priorities (0, Offtopic)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674297)

Protect our freedom first, then worry about our safety

It must be pointed out that without safety, and "freedom" being used as a shield for attacks against our society, there is no freedom left to protect because you aren't safe to exercise it any longer.

Re:Great...Ordering of Priorities (5, Insightful)

DigDuality (918867) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674533)

and if you give up your freedom for safety/security, then you're protecting nothing.

Re:Great... (1)

Theoboley (1226542) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674515)

Good, now maybe i can get a decent phone if i roll over to Verizon (just like Cell-One did for customers rolling over to AT&T w/o waiting out a contract)

Consumers? (1)

HaloZero (610207) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674183)

Could someone with a bit more enlightenment spell out what this means for subscribers, please?

Re:Consumers? (5, Insightful)

robo_mojo (997193) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674325)

Fewer choices and greater prices.

Re:Consumers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23674625)

Could someone with a bit more enlightenment spell out what this means for subscribers, please?
E17 will be in better for another year.

Re:Consumers? (2, Insightful)

Constantine XVI (880691) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674717)

The good: Verizon will likely merge Alltel's network with their own (relatively easy, since they use the same tech), boosting coverage for subscribers on both networks
The bad: Verizon will definitely replace Alltel's stock firmwares on new phones with their own, locking out features and making them consumer-hostile.

Re:Consumers? (0, Troll)

fluffman86 (1006119) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674817)

Don't kid yourself: Alltel already locks down their phones.

Re:Consumers? (3, Informative)

mapsjanhere (1130359) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674877)

I don't think so, my Alltel Razor talks to my desktop using usb, my office mate's identical Verizon model is locked up.

Re:Consumers? (1)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674953)

Alltel firmware is the hot download for frustrated Verizon customers. Verizon knows what is best for everyone. I am just waiting for them to (cough) open up the network like they told Google they would.

Re:Consumers? (1)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 6 years ago | (#23675443)

Then as an Alltel user, I maybe should find out how to back up my firmware.

Re:Consumers? (1)

GweeDo (127172) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674975)

Alltel runs the most liberal off all firemware's you can find. There is a reason that most hacking/modding sites for Sprint and Verizon sites have people load up Alltel's firmware first and foremost. As an Alltel customer this is the one thing that concerns me the most. But then again, I run a Windows Mobile phone (HTC Touch) that can be hacked the crap out of on all carriers (yeah GPS support!)

Re:Consumers? (1)

prockcore (543967) | more than 6 years ago | (#23675155)

I don't know if I'd use the term "lock down". Alltel installs some crap on their phones, but they've stopped disabling features (other than MMS, which they're actively trying to kill).

However, all the big alltel phones are HTC, and it's trivial to flash a new rom on there anyway, so even if they "locked it down", it takes no time at all to put a completely custom rom. I'm running WM6 on my HTC Apache.

Re:Consumers, Subscribers, Pee-Ons (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23675215)

Your sucky Alltel service is now suckier Verizon Service.

Look for a new scam^H, err... added feature where you now are automatically extended to a new two year contract. But that's OK because you can always opt out by calling their Customer Retention Service and be put on hold for an hour before being hung up on.

Makes me want to get drunk in..... wait for it.... more bars in more places.

Kinda sucks for anyone who left Verizon due to shitty service and chose Alltel.

Yes, I know it is spelled peon. But this seems more accurate.

Can't Wait (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23674203)

I can't wait until we have only one phone company!

Can you say "Monopoly" ? (4, Insightful)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674205)

say it. now spell it.

because this is it.

although im a capitalist, im increasingly starting to think that big corporations need a MAJOR whack on their butts so that competition can be a possibility again.

Re:Can you say "Monopoly" ? (2)

cjb658 (1235986) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674245)

although im a capitalist, im increasingly starting to think that big corporations need a MAJOR whack on their butts so that competition can be a possibility again.
And we all thought we were getting a good deal when the 700MHz spectrum was sold...

Re:Can you say "Monopoly" ? (1)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674335)

I could, but that ATT and Sprint are still out there means that Verizon isn't a monopoly. Even if they are... When ATT was *THE* phone company, we didn't have any of those annoying pin-drop adds or John Stamos and his stupid 10-10-220, telemarketers calling to ask if we wanted to switch long distance services, etc.

I'm pretty happy with Verizon.

Re:Can you say "Monopoly" ? (2, Insightful)

LandDolphin (1202876) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674443)

Yeah, you did not have as many annoying commercials, but you paid $5 a month to rent a home phone and $0.50 a min for a long distance phone call.

Welcome to Canada. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23674483)

That sentiment is great until the new big few realize that indirect collusion can make for greater bottom lines for the companies involved. You'll end up like us paying some of the highest prices in the world for the least amount of service.

I blame George Bush (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23674773)

I blame The Jew-Puppet George Dumbya Bu$Hilter Chimpy McHaliburtin
The ReThuglicans are so beholden to their Jew corporations AmeriKKKa is getting raped by them

Once Obama becomes President (if they ReThugs racists don't shoot him) we can finally kill those responsible and move you registered racist bigoted ReThuglicans to re-educaiton centers.

Vote Democrat
Vote Obama
Vote Change

Re:I blame George Bush (1)

postbigbang (761081) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674943)

Write back when you get sober....

Or when Limbaugh fires you....

You might have a conspiracy point (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23675063)

were his rant not identical to a majority of the commentary at any of the large lefty blogs. Nice try, though.

Re:You might have a conspiracy point (1)

postbigbang (761081) | more than 6 years ago | (#23675207)

The difference between fringes on both sides are difficult for even experts to detect, as they're almost the same. It's a circular, rather than directional, politic.

Come and get your love! (1)

funky49 (182835) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674217)

I'm VZ for work and home. My girlfriend is Alltel. Now I don't have to worry about not being in her circle!

Re:Come and get your love! FOOLISH (1)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674371)

I'm VZ for work and home. My girlfriend is Alltel. Now I don't have to worry about not being in her circle!

You're foolish enough to think that a VZ and AT merger will benefit you as gaining the feature set of VZ + AT = both of you.

Expect more likely, both of you = - (VZ + AT).

Re:Come and get your love! (1)

kingcool1432 (993113) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674455)

My girlfriend is Alltel.
Gawd, you must be devastated!

Re:Come and get your love! (3, Funny)

truthsearch (249536) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674459)

My girlfriend is Alltel.
Dude, your girlfriend's worth $28 billion? That's pretty sweet.

Re:Come and get your love! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23674505)

If you don't have to worry about being in her circle, all you've got left is worrying about being in her box.

*snare rimshot*

Re:Come and get your love! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23674513)

You don't want to be in her circle? I'll be in her circle. Could be a good time

Re:Come and get your love! (2, Funny)

Jor-Al (1298017) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674803)

Now I don't have to worry about not being in her circle!
That's because her new boyfriend was instead.

That Alone... (3, Insightful)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674231)

Alltel is a highly valuable and strategic roaming partner to the top four providers, and this acquisition would put long-term pressure on pricing and terms of those arrangements.

That alone should be more than sufficient to nix the deal. Anything that would upset the balance in the market this much should require more than stringent guarantees of access at current prices for the next century -- and not for the next 18 months as would be more likely proposed.

yeah.. but.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23674241)

when nextel and sprint merged they were hailed as the next big thing.. take over the industry.. yada yada yada.. now look at them..

Re:yeah.. but.. (5, Insightful)

Constantine XVI (880691) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674347)

Nextel == iDEN phones & network, running nothing of note
Sprint == CDMA phones & network, running J2ME
Result: disaster

Verizon == CDMA phones & network, running BREW
Alltel == CDMA phones and network, running BREW
Result: probably much better

Re:yeah.. but.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23674727)

Verizon locks down everything, Alltel is freedom. This is bad for Alltell customers in that respect!

Re:yeah.. but.. (3, Interesting)

oahazmatt (868057) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674827)

Verizon locks down everything, Alltel is freedom. This is bad for Alltell customers in that respect!
Yes, Verizon locks down quite a bit. I have to use BitPim just to do some file transfers.

However, having a $22 Billion debt is not good for Alltel customers, either. They may have "America's largest network" but they don't exactly have America's largest customer base, (The article I read this morning had them at about 15% and 20% of the Verizon and AT&T customer base, respectively) and in order to continue providing to its customers, the company needs some relief.

Is this a good thing? Maybe. I'd like to think the two networks will operate under a large umbrella and Verizon and Alltel might remain as independent as possible, just provide a more complete network coverage.

Is this a bad thing? Maybe. Alltel customers may be turned off if sudden phone lockdowns come out of this.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Re:yeah.. but.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23675113)

Verizon == CDMA phones & network, running BREW
Alltel == CDMA phones and network, running BREW
Result: probably much better
Yeah, but you forgot one thing: Verizon has tight control on its handsets and the software that runs there. Don't expect to run any software without paying a fee for that right. Verizon even turns off basic features on their cellphones so that they can sell you their service on a month-to-month basis.

If you think this sounds better than the Sprint model, you don't run ANY applications.

Re:yeah.. but.. (4, Interesting)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 6 years ago | (#23675227)

Running nothing of Note? Nextel IS the phone of large companies.

NexTel started out as fleet dispatch frequencies and moved into the cell phone range. NexTel has always been an excellent niche between 2 way radios and full blown cell phones.

Our factories have numerous repeaters in them so that we have full coverage in the building. Push to Talk is used constantly. It seems to be the same for all other friends of mine that work in the manufacturing world. AT&T, Verizon are great for upper management and executives but anyone that might get grease on their hands uses a NexTel

J2ME, BREW is all junk for our work. Most of our phones show 4 lines of black on green. They'll all survive a drop from a second story building, being plunged under water and being left in dash in the sun. The batteries also last twice as long as any 'consumer' cell phone I've used.

NexTel definitely has something to bring to the table.
-
While I've never used them AllTel has seemed to drive a bit of competition. First they had the "5 friends" thing then it seems everyone had that. Now they're up to "Any friend on any network" which other people seem to be copying.

Meanwhile Sirius and XM get the shaft (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23674255)

F the FCC

uh what? (0, Flamebait)

poetmatt (793785) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674333)

What the heck are you talking about? unsuccessful troll.

Sirius/xm was approved. [engadget.com]

Re:uh what? (1)

Applekid (993327) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674563)

Actually, no.

GP post referenced the FCC, who now have to approve the Sirius/XM merger. The DOJ gave the ok but it's only part of the pie. Their merger plans are at least a year and a half in the making... I wonder how long THIS Verizon/Alltel merger was on the drawing board.

Re:uh what? (1)

poetmatt (793785) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674741)

It's the FCC on a huge merger. Of course it's going to be slow. I hate to say it, but thats not a surprise nor is it likely aimed at XM/Sirius. It's more likely that they just work that slow period. Even if FCC disapproves I suspect there may be an appeal process ( I don't know myself) but it would be just as lengthy.

Re:appeals process (2, Insightful)

drhamad (868567) | more than 6 years ago | (#23675411)

To appeal the FCC decision they'd have to go to the courts. Since the FCC is an administrative agency, the courts will basically look only at whether or not the FCC's decision was arbitrary/capricious. That's a pretty tough standard.

By the way, one of the main reasons XM/Sirius was likely approved was because they both lose craptons (that's the technical term) of money. If the choice is zero providers of a service, or one, we prefer taking the one. The other reason it can/has/will be approved is that there's many ways to get music in your car... FM Radio, HD Radio, CD's, iPod's/podcasts, etc. Between the two of these things, they came up with enough reason to approve it.

In the case of VZW/Alltel... well certainly there's no danger of VZW going bankrupt. Alltel is a different story. Their financial picture isn't all that pretty. But just one of them being in trouble won't necessarily be enough to approve it. And certainly there's no other way to get mobile phone service than to use a... mobile phone. But of course there's still 4 major cell carriers. I'd bet this is approved, but for different reasons than XM/Sirius.

I love merger's (3, Interesting)

Galactic Dominator (944134) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674257)

In my area, there are two choices if you wish service outside the metro....Verizon and Alltel. I've been with Alltel for a couple of years and I switched from Verizon. I left Verizon for a reason, and I'm sure many of you know what that is. Poor customer service, billed for things I didn't have, etc, /etc. Alltel has had a few issues with my account, but at least they've resolved them when I call in.

Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope!

Re:I love merger's (3, Insightful)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674421)

In my area, there are two choices if you wish service outside the metro....Verizon and Alltel.

With the reduction of providers competing for your business from 2 to 1, do not expect your rates to be going down any time soon.

Thank goodness (4, Funny)

Jor-Al (1298017) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674271)

Does that mean now that the horrible Alltel commercials will finally end?

Re:Thank goodness (1)

jcrousedotcom (999175) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674315)

God I hope so. Just discussing that with a fellow friend and Sprint user (yes, it was much better than Nextel for high speed Internet and I didn't have to sign another contract).

Good Riddance!

Re:Thank goodness (2, Funny)

Skeet112 (1088203) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674429)

Yes, although having a personal wizard to summon at will would still be pretty damn sweet.

wwwizzzzzaaaarddddd (1)

Theoboley (1226542) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674613)

You cannot tell me that you don't enjoy summoning the wwwizzzzard for hours on end. He doesn't show up though... because it's family time. /redundant

Monopoly 2.0 (1, Redundant)

TheLazySci-FiAuthor (1089561) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674287)

What even defines a monopoly anymore?

Shouldn't there be some cap on the ratio of providence of a service or product to demand or something?

Obviously 80 million wireless subscribers is approaching a significant portion of the US population. And let's do the numbers on AT&T.

double-u tea eff question mark exclamation point.

Re:Monopoly 2.0 (1)

angle_slam (623817) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674991)

Mono -- one. As long as Verizon and At&t don't merge, there's a choice. As long as there's a choice, it's not a monopoly.

Re:No, that is a dictionary definition (2, Insightful)

drhamad (868567) | more than 6 years ago | (#23675307)

That's a dictionary definition. That is NOT a US antitrust law (or anyone elses antitrust law) definition. A monopoly market exists when one firm (or a small number of firms) have the ability to raise prices above the [competitive] market level. That alone is not an antitrust violation though. You also need to have them actually do something which is detrimental to the marketplace (predatory pricing, pricing below cost, etc).

I Hope... (2, Interesting)

dougmwne (958276) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674345)

I hope this isn't the final nail in Sprint's coffin. I happen to be very attached to my $30/month everything unlimited SERO plan.

obviously this isn't illegal (2, Funny)

thermian (1267986) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674383)

We should therefore stop arguing, and accept that theirs is the superior intellect, after all, what could possibly go wrong?

Re:obviously this isn't illegal (1)

Theoboley (1226542) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674703)

What could possibly go wrong? Lets see... My current phone bill could sky rocket to 3x the amount that it is now, in which case f8ck the cellphones all together... I'll use my old rotary phone.

Re:obviously this isn't illegal (1)

thermian (1267986) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674927)

What could possibly go wrong? Lets see... My current phone bill could sky rocket to 3x the amount that it is now, in which case f8ck the cellphones all together... I'll use my old rotary phone.

I'm guessing you missed the Wrath of Khan reference.

Will Verizon convert Alltel to CDMA? (-1, Offtopic)

kaaona (252061) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674395)

I wonder if Alltel customers will have to replace their GSM phones. Sprint and Verizon are the only major carriers in the U.S. using the more modern (but less "standard") CDMA signaling.

Re:Will Verizon convert Alltel to CDMA? (1)

Al Wold (5038) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674485)

Uh..isn't Alltel entirely CDMA currently? I've never even heard of them having GSM.

Re:Will Verizon convert Alltel to CDMA? (1)

TooMuchToDo (882796) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674561)

Which is funny, since GSM providers like AT&T and T-Mobile (I have T-Mobile) are moving to 3G standards such as UMTS/HSDPA, which are CDMA-based. =)

Re:Will Verizon convert Alltel to CDMA? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23675123)

Alltell is and always has been CDMA. Are people terminally stupid when it comes to cell phone technologies? I see more misinformed people posting (on /. of ALL places) about cell phones than any other topic.

Gold plated prison. (1)

argent (18001) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674627)

If I could use my SIM card in it, I wouldn't care if my phone used TDMA, CDMA, GSM, BDSM, or Avian Carriers.

But after 2 years with Sprint hoping my piece of junk phone would hold out long enough for me to escape to T-Mobile without having to sign up for another piece of junk phone from Sprint because I can't just buy a used piece of junk phone (there pretty much aren't any non-piece-of-junk phones out there) and stick my SIM in it... I'm done with CDMA, thank you very much.

Re:Gold plated prison. (1)

TooMuchToDo (882796) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674835)

As a T-Mobile customer who loves them, I'm sure you'll find them much better than Sprint.

Re:Gold plated prison. (1)

argent (18001) | more than 6 years ago | (#23675301)

Oh, I'm sure I'll hate them ten different ways, but before Sprint I was on Verizon, who was even less fun than Sprint... but that was a company phone so I could let someone else deliver the hate, and before that on Cingular... all phones are pieces of junk, all cellular companies are hateful, but at least with GSM I can ration the hate out in tiny packages... :)

Re:Will Verizon convert Alltel to CDMA? (3, Informative)

maxume (22995) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674665)

Alltel is CDMA.

My Condolences (1)

bogie (31020) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674409)

Welcome to turdville. Population? You. You'll be happy to learn that at least you'll have the best coverage available. Oh and hurray for taking one more giant step towards a single company owning everything.

SPLIT (1)

llZENll (545605) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674427)

Just for trying this crap they should split Verizon in twain. Veri gets the even phone numbers, and Izon gets the odd ones. Ready... Set... Compete!

First of many (4, Interesting)

afidel (530433) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674469)

As many market watchers have pointed out the weaken US economy combined with a likely end to the lazafaire practices of the Bush administration means there are likely to be a fairly large number of mergers started in Q2 and Q3 so that they can get past regulators before a new government is in place.

Re:First of many (1)

postbigbang (761081) | more than 6 years ago | (#23675023)

Mod parent up.

Consolidation during periods of lax regulation and other useful negligence will continue. So will the price of gas/fuel.

Watch Revol merge with T-Mobile, Virgin Mobile, and produced RevolTing Virgin Mobile.

Great, no more stupid commercials (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674489)

We can say good by to those stupid commercials now.

Other then that, having a even larger company with more control over their customers so they can screw them more is all i see coming out of this.. Good thing i dont use a cell phone, or believe in them.

Re:Great, no more stupid commercials (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674699)

Have you made a cell phone vanish in a puff of logic yet?

Phone software (1)

Draconistarum (1184867) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674577)

There goes my uncrippled phones.

Alltel commercials (2, Insightful)

wowbagger (69688) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674605)

<humor>
I wonder what effect this will have on the Alltel commercials: The Verizon kid is the nastiest, most obnoxious of the lot.
</humor>

Re:Alltel commercials (1, Funny)

Sabz5150 (1230938) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674681)

Chad... suck my balls. /cartman

Re:Alltel commercials (1)

Skeet112 (1088203) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674767)

Well, considering the fact that they are now bought out by Verizon, I very much doubt there will even -be- more Alltel commercials.

Re:Alltel commercials (1)

oahazmatt (868057) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674907)

My guess? The Verizon kid will obviously distract Chad, while "The Network" just swarms him from behind and burns down his store.

Network Guy: "Say it!"
Chad: *whimper*
Network Guy: "Say it! [bleep]ing say it!"
Chad: *sniff* "Can--- can you hear me--- now?"
Network Guy: "[bleep] yeah."

So does this mean... (1)

greymond (539980) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674615)

I can use my cell phone on top of Halfdome cause that would be pretty nice.

Verizon == unpleasant (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23674657)

In my (admittedly limited) experience, Verizon execs are a bunch of arrogant tossers. After my brief experience with them I am glad I don't have to be a customer.

I summon thee... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23674671)

wwWWWWIZZAHHHRRDD!!!

What happens to Chad? (1)

Electrawn (321224) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674739)

From an email discussion earlier:

So in the Alltel commercials, does the Verizon tech lookalike now get to noogie "Chad," and make him drive the "Wizard" van?

Re:What happens to Chad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23675267)

You see him get shot by the verizon guy in a drive by shooting from the van, then Chad's fav's are kidnapped and placed inside the van against their will....

Customer backlash? (5, Insightful)

jyunderwood (1016191) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674749)

No doubt the Alltel customers who are use to My Circle and relatively un-crippled phones compared to Verizon will not like this.

Would customers be able to get out of their contacts when they merge?

Not sure if this is good for me or not (3, Interesting)

GweeDo (127172) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674843)

As a very happy Alltel customer I am not sure what to think of this. While being part of a larger provider does offer more features and phones and what not, Alltel is crazy liberal with what they let you do with your phone. Basically if the MFG supports it, GO FOR IT! Verizon on the other hand is the exact opposite. If you don't pay for their branded apps (other than hacking) you don't get it.

Oh Joy (2, Interesting)

Jewfro_Macabbi (1000217) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674849)

I've been a happy Alltel customer since December - glad to know I can look forward to higher prices, lower customer service, and a throttled internet connection - now likely to be run straight through NSA central. I'm thrilled.

No More Alltel Commercials Please!!! (1)

EvolutionsPeak (913411) | more than 6 years ago | (#23674965)

If this ends those annoying Alltel commercials with the dumbass blonde "cool" guy and the dumbass pseudo geeky guys I am all for it!

Coverage Area? (1)

Avitor (640676) | more than 6 years ago | (#23675159)

If this doesn't embiggen Verizon's coverage in my area then it's a waste of money.

Corporations (1)

just_forget_it (947275) | more than 6 years ago | (#23675275)

Corporations shouldn't be allowed to buy other corporations. It wasn't like that in the beginning, but railroad tycoons wanted to consolidate and argued that corporations should have all the rights (but none of the responsibilities) of an individual person.

Allowing corporations to merge is against every principle the free market stands on.
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