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Hans Reiser To Reveal Location of Wife's Body

CmdrTaco posted more than 6 years ago | from the dark-days-almost-at-an-end dept.

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dlgeek writes "The story of Hans Reiser is well known to all Slashdotters by now. Some still placed doubts about the conviction, stating that he might be innocent. It now seems that all doubt has been quelled, since Alameda County District Attorney Thomas Orloff has revealed that Hans Reiser will disclose the location of Nina's body for a reduced sentence. The deal is not yet finalized, though. 'There's been some overtures,' Orloff said, 'But everything is in its preliminary stage.' The deal would reduce his conviction from first degree to second degree murder. In addition, an anonymous source close to the situation said that 'the only real leverage he has is if he can provide a body. He really doesn't have any options left. Even if he won a retrial somehow, he'd likely be convicted.'"

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World's Greatest Detective (5, Funny)

alcmaeon (684971) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707725)

BS. This doesn't mean he did it. It means he is the World's Greatest Detective. He's Batman!

Re:World's Greatest Detective (4, Funny)

zwei2stein (782480) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707737)

Well, you'd better hurry tell this to Dexter...

Re:World's Greatest Detective (5, Funny)

jo42 (227475) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707745)

OJ did it!

Re:World's Greatest Detective (5, Funny)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707917)

Oh, sure, blame it on the black guy. That's what they always do.

Re:World's Greatest Detective (5, Funny)

Slashdot Suxxors (1207082) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708085)

You must be new here.

Re:World's Greatest Detective (4, Funny)

FoolsGold (1139759) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708173)

If the Journal doesn't fit, you must acquit!

Re:World's Greatest Detective (2, Funny)

Slimee (1246598) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707779)

Like omg! Linux is run by murders!! Down with Linux! Down with open source! End the murderous rampage and burn your copy of Linux!

Re:World's Greatest Detective (4, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707975)

I hear "Some Puerto Rican Guy" did it.

Who said Reiser doesn't support robust recovery? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23707729)

Weeks ago, there wasn't even a known body!

Re:Who said Reiser doesn't support robust recovery (1)

hostyle (773991) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707783)

Whereas now theres an unknown body - and they don't know where it is yet either.

Re:Who said Reiser doesn't support robust recovery (4, Funny)

JonathanR (852748) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707893)

Yeah, but by now, I reckon they'll only find a few bits.

Re:Who said Reiser doesn't support robust recovery (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23708083)

There are known known bodies, known unknown bodies and unknown known bodies. But there are no old bold pilots.

*sigh* (5, Interesting)

afxgrin (208686) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707767)

Wow I feel like a moron for have ever attempted to defend Hans online at all. Like he was friends, and his wife was seeing, a guy that murdered several people.

Now he's just going to fess up to the murder.

I guess this marks the end of ReiserFS. I'm sure no one in the Linux community wants to be associated to that piece of work.

Re:*sigh* (1)

laejoh (648921) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707797)

Hold on, wait 'till Netcraft confirms there was one more crippling bombshell hit on the already beleaguered ReiserFS community!

Re:*sigh* (5, Funny)

hostyle (773991) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707891)

Re:*sigh* (1)

hav0x (984818) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707927)

that's just nasty.

-1 Not Funny

Re:*sigh* (0, Offtopic)

chubs730 (1095151) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708107)

I laughed. Mod it up.

That's Not Funny, That's sick (1)

goombah99 (560566) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708089)

Though I am laughing pretty hard.

Re:*sigh* (1)

FictionPimp (712802) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708163)

Greatest Table EVER

This is Guy Richie [thebosh.com] and there is nothing he can do about it.

Re:*sigh* (5, Insightful)

Atlantis-Rising (857278) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707799)

I guess this marks the end of ReiserFS. I'm sure no one in the Linux community wants to be associated to that piece of work.

Which, while it might be true, is still stupid.

Imagine if Albert Einstein had accepted the position of leader of Israel after World War II and ordered some massive war crime, like say slaughtering the Arabs with nukes.

Would we just toss aside General Relativity, never to see it again, because we don't want to be associated with the author?

Re:*sigh* (5, Informative)

OzRoy (602691) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707905)

Hans Geiger was a Nazi and betrayed his Jewish Collegues.

Heisenberg also worked for the Nazi's and attempted to build a Nuclear bomb. That one however is debatable. He later claimed he was secretly sabotaging the project.

I think what will have to happen is ReiserFS will need to change its name. Once they do that then ithey will be able to move the project forward.

Re:*sigh* (5, Funny)

Frekko (749706) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707999)

I suggest KillerFS!

Re:*sigh* (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23708091)

Please mod this guy +1 Bad taste.

Re:*sigh* (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23708207)

LOL!!11!1 You are like, omg, so original and funny.

Re:*sigh* (5, Informative)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708045)

Don't forget Werner Von Braun. He used slave labor to build the V2, was an SS officer, etc. But, without his help after the war, the U.S. probably would have never gotten to the moon.

Re:*sigh* (4, Funny)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708055)

Heisenberg also worked for the Nazi's and attempted to build a Nuclear bomb. That one however is debatable.
Has anyone ever done a probability distribution for the options?

Re:*sigh* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23708015)

Looking back, I think we can all agree that it would have been a wide move.

Re:*sigh* (5, Informative)

afxgrin (208686) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708093)

Albert Einstein didn't name his theories after himself.

But after reading the article, the summary is highly deceptive. The article basically says that Hans needs to reveal the location of the body if he wants a reduced sentence.

It doesn't say he will. The judge is just assuming that Hans will do that to reduce the sentence.

Huh? (1)

bunratty (545641) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707801)

You mean I can't believe everything I read on Slashdot? What's next, I can't believe everything I read on the rest of the Internet, too?

Re:*sigh* (2, Insightful)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707819)

Well if the DA says it then it must be true! I mean a DA is a kind of lawyer, right?

Re:*sigh* (3, Insightful)

Sancho (17056) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707823)

Don't feel bad. From the informaton that was coming out about the trial, there really was reasonable doubt until he took the stand. And the guy is quirky, so it's easy for geeks (who are often quirky) to identify with him.

Re:*sigh* (5, Insightful)

afxgrin (208686) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708149)

In the end the article just says the judge assumes Hans will reveal the body to reduce the sentence. The summary is bad for this article.

Hognoxious hit that detail on the head

"Well if the DA says it then it must be true! I mean a DA is a kind of lawyer, right?"

Alright alright, I'll RTFA before posting next time.

Re:*sigh* (4, Interesting)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707827)

They should at least rename it to try to distance the software as much as possible from its creator....

Re:*sigh* (0, Flamebait)

gplus (985592) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707837)

ReiserFS. A real Killer Application. :-)

Re:*sigh* (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23708157)

LOL!!1!11! You are like, omg, so original and funny.

Re:*sigh* (3, Interesting)

Reverend528 (585549) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707883)

I guess this marks the end of ReiserFS. I'm sure no one in the Linux community wants to be associated to that piece of work.

Honestly, I don't see how this invalidates his work. Surely the code didn't drive him to commit murder.

Disclaimer: I use ext3, but I'm sure reiserfs has some merits.

Re:*sigh* (5, Funny)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707987)

Honestly, I don't see how this invalidates his work. Surely the code didn't drive him to commit murder.
Are you sure? Have you ever looked at that source? Hell, I almost murdered my wife after spending 15 minutes reading it, never mind trying to write the code!

Re:*sigh* (1, Insightful)

A beautiful mind (821714) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707899)

After the first reports in the case, I was pretty unconvinced that he did it. What changed my mind earlier was two things: the way he hid the car, hosed it off and removed the front seat and the fact that he suddently felt an urge to drive to a mountainous region. The police found Nina Reiser's blood in the car. I wouldn't have convicted him based on this, because it wasn't established beyond reasonable doubt that he did it, but I thought he did it. The jury took a gamble to convict him because he gave the impression of being guilty and trying to cover something up.

Now that he confessed, I'm sure he's guilty.

Re:*sigh* (5, Funny)

Bootle (816136) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708109)

Now that he confessed, I'm sure he's guilty.
Wow, glad to know you're on the case there Matlock!

Re:*sigh* (3, Insightful)

A beautiful mind (821714) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708187)

I would never say someone is guilty just based on a confession. There is ample evidence that confessions have quite a high false positive rate. However, taken in conjunction with evidence, it is as 'sure' as it gets.

Re:*sigh* (5, Insightful)

afxgrin (208686) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708307)

There is no confession. Just speculation that he will.

Re:*sigh* (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23708341)

>Now that he confessed, I'm sure he's guilty.

Where does it say he confessed?

You're an idiot.

And so is whoever modded you up.

Re:*sigh* (4, Interesting)

Tribbin (565963) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707901)

That raises the question; if Linus murders, will you stop using the kernel and everything associated with it?

Re:*sigh* (5, Funny)

FictionPimp (712802) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708213)

If Linus murders, it's obviously for the good of all of us. Just accept it.

Re:*sigh* (1)

DriedClexler (814907) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708347)

Two steps ahead of you.

Re:*sigh* (0, Offtopic)

arivanov (12034) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707935)

You should never defend someone who was stupid enough to import himself a mail order bl'ad. This very clearly puts in the right perspective his social skills, social orientation and actual capabilities as a human to fit into human society.

He however is definitely not alone, if he was Anastasia International would not have been targeting slashdot specifically for advertisements with pretty pictures of bl'ad in full war paint.

reasonable doubt (5, Insightful)

nguy (1207026) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707941)

Wow I feel like a moron for have ever attempted to defend Hans online at all.

You shouldn't. To most people, even people who "defended" him, it was more likely than not that he was guilty. But the legal criterion is "beyond a reasonable doubt". I think based on the publicly released evidence, there was still a reasonable doubt.

I still don't feel really comfortable with jurors making decisions based on "looking into people's eyes", as one of the jurors was saying; given how many people believe in astrology, mind reading, new age, and other supernatural stuff, I think there there's a lot of potential for bad decision making there. And there are, indeed, lots of wrongful convictions, so it's not like the system is working perfectly.

Still, it looks like the jurors were right on this one.

Re:reasonable doubt (5, Insightful)

alcmaeon (684971) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708261)

I still don't feel really comfortable with jurors making decisions based on "looking into people's eyes"

Frankly, that bothers me a whole hell of a lot less than the fact that he was convicted of murder without any significant evidence his wife was dead as opposed to simply missing.

Re:*sigh* (1)

imsabbel (611519) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707943)

The problem with that theory was that this friend is not a killer, but a nutcase.
He stated that he murdered a lot of people, but could never prove it. (nobody died, you know?)

If you are really cyncical, you could suggest that Reiser was well aware if the fact this guy exists when he did what he did, planing to plant him as the offender.
OTOH, if he was planning that much, he wouldnt have made some of the really boneheaded mistakes he did.

Re:*sigh* (5, Insightful)

Xiph1980 (944189) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707945)

ReiserFS is maybe created by a murderer, but that doesn't mean it's bad. Hans Reiser may have comitted an intolerable crime, but if you would rob yourself of what might be the best filesystem for your application, it would just be a bloody shame. In my opinion using ReiserFS doesn't immediately mean you agree with his actions. It just mean that you prefer ReiserFS over other systems.

This being said though, I prefer ZFS myself :)

Also, considering Microsoft has so many employees, I have no doubt, that there have been people working there that comitted far worse than a crime of passion. Doesn't mean that the product is bad... Well, okay it is, but not because of some employee going nuts.
Besides, I think there are many CEO's or CFO's or any C?O's out there that have comitted far worse than a single murder, like Shell pumping oil in africa, killing thousands knowingly by pollution. If you'd go your route, you wouldn't be able to get groceries anymore in a normal fasion, because the truck getting the groceries might have filled it up with diesel at a shell.

Re:*sigh* (5, Funny)

Aneurysm (680045) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708353)

It is of course possible that the file system is riddled with places where the evil bit has been secretly turned on.

Re:*sigh* (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707967)

There's no proof that the friend murdered several people. He just claimed to have done, but couldn't seem to tell police whom he had murdered or where any bodies were.

Sure, maybe Hans really did murder his wife, but I've never bought the friend's story.

Re:*sigh* (1)

afxgrin (208686) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708205)

The whole trial sounds like bullshit. No body, little blotches of blood that can't be accurately dated, no murder weapon, the victim's boyfriend admits to killing several other people but not her, and was once friend's with the accused.

It's like they're making a fake murder case.

I'm almost convinced that they are.

Re:*sigh* (1)

R2.0 (532027) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708167)

"his wife was seeing, a guy that *claimed to have* murdered several people."

Fixed that for ya.

Snarky comments (3, Insightful)

sammyo (166904) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707803)

I hope this thread has minimal snarky sarcastic comments, this is just sad all around.

Re:Snarky comments (1)

elguillelmo (1242866) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707877)

Agree... the whole story is too sad

Re:Snarky comments (1)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708053)

I hope this thread has minimal snarky sarcastic comments, this is just sad all around.
Agreed. This bat-shit crazy mama's boy a la Norman Bates doesn't deserve minimal snarky sarcastic comments. Let's go for the gusto!

Re:Snarky comments (1)

elguillelmo (1242866) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708263)

FTA: On a side note, for Reiser to disclose the body might bring some element of closure to his two children, a boy now 8 and a girl 6. They live with Nina's parents in St. Petersburg, Russia. The boy, in letters to his father last year, asked his dad why he "hid" his mother.

Re:Snarky comments (1)

R2.0 (532027) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708215)

"I hope this thread has minimal snarky sarcastic comments, this is just sad all around."

Where's the "Good luck with that" mod when you need it?

fuck (0, Flamebait)

hav0x (984818) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707805)

I totally didn't see this one coming.
Always thought the guy was inocent.
Plus this is a really dumb move ... even if convicted I bet the parole board would take into consideration the lack of a body, and hard evidence for that matter, just a few years into his sentence.
Really dumb move especially for a sociopath.

Re:fuck (3, Informative)

afxgrin (208686) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708223)

The summary is deceiving dude. The judge just speculates he's going to reveal the location for a reduction of sentence.

There's seriously nothing saying Hans even knows where it is.

Re:fuck (4, Insightful)

martinX (672498) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708323)

The opposite, I think. The parole board isn't there to second-guess the jury, or give you time off "just in case". They assume that because you were found guilty, you are guilty and your protestations to the contrary are simply because you refuse to face up to the fact you are guilty, so you can't yet be paroled.

This means, of course, that if you are innocent, it sucks to be you when you front up to a parole board.

Disclaimer: I garnered my knowledge from someone who was innocent but in jail, and also the movie Double Jeopardy, starring Ashley Judd.

Am I missing something or (5, Interesting)

Splab (574204) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707857)

did the article just speculate?

No where in the article does it say that he has agreed to it, they are speculating that there might be a reduced sentence if Hans discloses where the body is. Also, he is most likely going to be someone's "slave" once he is in prison, so if he gets 15 or 25 years it is most likely going to be in protected custody (= voluntary solitary confinement) and 15 years alone is going to mess him even up let alone 25 years, either way he is done for.

Glad I'm not in the US, getting life in prison for something that has way too many loose ends, just isn't right.

(On a side note, whats with those extremely long terms in prison? Anyone going in for 25 years will never be able to get back into society - I thought the point of prison was to punish and correct the guilty and get them back into working order. There was a couple who got life in prison for mistreating their child to the point of death (raised her as a vegan) - a British couple got 3 years community service for the same thing)

Re:Am I missing something or (2, Informative)

gronofer (838299) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707989)

did the article just speculate?
Seems so to me. There's no indication here that Reiser has been involved in the discussions. To say "all doubt has been quelled" is premature, since nothing new has been added.

Re:Am I missing something or (1)

Splab (574204) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708021)

Oh also the article claims that he has nothing to gain from a retrial even if found innocent, wtf? If found innocent wouldn't that mean zero time in jail?

Re:Am I missing something or (4, Insightful)

faloi (738831) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708095)

It sounds like they're in discussions about it. Presumably the DA wouldn't leak something about a deal of that nature unless he's really bad at his job. I would think that kind of publicity from the DA could earn him some censure, at he very least.

Long terms in prison tend to be the result of mandatory minimum sentences. Politicians, in a zeal to "fight crime!!111" have placed certain minimum terms on crimes, so judges can have their hands tied in sentencing. For the record, depending on which case you're thinking of, the US couple got 99 days in jail. And none of it was related to the death of their child, it was for neglect of their other four children (being underweight and malnourished).

Re:Am I missing something or (5, Insightful)

jimicus (737525) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708257)

It sounds like they're in discussions about it. Presumably the DA wouldn't leak something about a deal of that nature unless he's really bad at his job. I would think that kind of publicity from the DA could earn him some censure, at he very least.
But there's no hint as to what direction those discussions are taking. Right now, for all we know the discussions are along the lines of:

Prosecutor: Come on, you've been found guilty. Your only hope of improving your situation even slightly is to admit you did it and tell us where the body is.
Reiser: Didn't do it.
(lather, rinse and repeat)

Re:Am I missing something or (1)

Splab (574204) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708297)

About the couples, just read from a Danish source here: http://politiken.dk/udland/article520653.ece [politiken.dk] (last paragraph) and they don't list their sources, but based on my (single minded) view of both countries it fits snugly.

Re:Am I missing something or (2, Insightful)

Loibisch (964797) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708129)

did the article just speculate?

No where in the article does it say that he has agreed to it, they are speculating that there might be a reduced sentence if Hans discloses where the body is.
Yeah, upon reading the summary I, too, thought that Reiser was actually admitting to having killed his wife. But since this is just a potential deal that is based on the general notion that he actually HAS killed her and thee is no comment from Reiser himself this article is pretty bar any information.

For all those defending him there's still a string or two of hope. Personally I think the whole thing is too fishy to be able to put a man in prison for life for something he might not have done.
"Beyond reasonable doubt" my ass...

Re:Am I missing something or (1)

Legion303 (97901) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708239)

"did the article just speculate?"

Welcome to Slashdot!

Re:Am I missing something or (1, Interesting)

Reality Master 201 (578873) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708247)

On a side note, whats with those extremely long terms in prison? Anyone going in for 25 years will never be able to get back into society - I thought the point of prison was to punish and correct the guilty and get them back into working order

That used to be the purpose of prison. But then America decided that that was namby-pamby liberal bullshit and that the purpose of prison was to make the prisoner's life as miserable and awful as possible, even if the end result is someone who can't handle society outside and is likely to become a repeat offender. Really, you'll find it difficult to make the argument with most Americans that prison ought to provide rehabilitation rather than the harshest possible punishment.

As an aside, there's nothing about raising your child as a vegan which necessarily constitutes mistreatment. Being a dipshit about nutritional requirements, though, is a different issue. I know several pairs of vegan parents who have raised their children as vegans, and the kids are quite healthy and normal - the parents are merely educated about properly balancing diets and nutrition for children.

Re:Am I missing something or (0, Flamebait)

One Childish N00b (780549) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708305)

(On a side note, whats with those extremely long terms in prison? Anyone going in for 25 years will never be able to get back into society - I thought the point of prison was to punish and correct the guilty and get them back into working order. There was a couple who got life in prison for mistreating their child to the point of death (raised her as a vegan) - a British couple got 3 years community service for the same thing)


You think being responsible for the mistreatment and death of your own child should only warrant community service? Sorry, if someone is that cold-hearted, they can rot in jail.

Re:Am I missing something or (5, Insightful)

domatic (1128127) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708319)

I thought the point of prison was to punish and correct the guilty and get them back into working order.



That can be a point of prison but there are at least four not always compatible reasons from prison:

1. Deterrence.
2. Reformation.
3. Punishment.
4. Removal.

Ultra long sentences serve 1,3, and 4 at the expense of 2. Furthermore, reform tends to get lip service at best in the US. We're generally a revenge minded lot Who Want Criminals Off The Street And Thinking Twice About Messing Up.

Re:Am I missing something or (1)

Thelasko (1196535) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708349)

I thought the point of prison was to punish and correct the guilty and get them back into working order.
In the US, that applies to everything but murder. Person's who commit murder are removed from society completely. It's kinda sad but it's the general consensus in just about every state (that I know of). Most of the debate about the legal system is about how this removal from society should be performed. Should they spend the rest of their lives in prison, or be put to death?

Got any Line? (5, Funny)

Creepy Crawler (680178) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707859)

Great comic strip who didnt believe him HERE [geekz.co.uk] .

Got any lime?

Re:Got any Line? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23708277)

The best part of that strip is the tshirt in the last frame (look closely)

Great. (0, Troll)

thyrf (1059934) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707861)

I'm using the file system of a murderer.

Re:Great. (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708111)

Wow, because anything that is done/developed/discovered by someone who turns out to be a felon should be purged from society - nevermind the actual merits of the work.

The Anastasia mail order bride ad (5, Funny)

edittard (805475) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707865)

Anyone else consider the Anastasia advert to be in bad taste, given the context of the story?

Re:The Anastasia mail order bride ad (0, Redundant)

4D6963 (933028) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708065)

Anyone else consider the Anastasia advert to be in bad taste, given the context of the story?
In Soviet Slashdot, Russian bribe adverts consider you to be in bad taste.

Huh?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23707889)

But I thought he was just an innocent dork.

Here it comes (1)

kericr (1172199) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707907)

Hans is about to have the world experience more chaos.

Hans who? (1, Flamebait)

objekt (232270) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707913)

"The story of Hans Reiser is well known to all Slashdotters by now."

No.

I would really like to know (5, Funny)

Scholasticus (567646) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707915)

Does this mean that some time soon Richard Stallman is going to tell us where the HURD kernel is?

Let's wait until he does cough it up. (5, Insightful)

tjstork (137384) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707921)

I've got the troll points for arguing that he was guilty from the get-go, and I think that he is. But, in this case, I think before those people who supported him jump off of a mental cliff, let's let the DA actually deliver the body and the proof of Hans's cooperation. The story is believable enough, but, let's let the DA PROVE it first.

ReiserFS Undelete Option Shown (5, Funny)

cryptodan (1098165) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707953)

Reiser shows off his new methods of undeleting a file and recovering it.

State sponsored open source (2, Insightful)

secondhand_Buddah (906643) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707955)

Well, look on the bright side, he will have 20 to life to contribute to his open source initiative project.

Re:State sponsored open source (1)

domatic (1128127) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708371)

Like they're going to allow the level of outside communication necessary to participate in an open source project much less run a corporation.....

Russia! (1)

4D6963 (933028) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707963)

I betcha he tells them the body is in Russia. In Soviet Russia, dead bodies make you disappear!

Hubris (2, Insightful)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 6 years ago | (#23707995)

Reiser's hubris has sentenced him to what will almost certainly be more minimum 25 (or 15 if he gives up the body) than the 11 year sentenced that he was offered before trial. And of course as a murder, he deserves it.

Obligatory awful pun: (2, Funny)

jockeys (753885) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708049)

hopefully he journaled the location of the body.

this reminds me of oj simpson (5, Insightful)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708051)

oj simpson's case was skewered in this country by race. that is, more black people tended to think of oj as innocent, and more white people thought of him as guilty

the hans reiser case reveals that techies suffer this same sort of prejudice as black people concerning oj simpson. had this guy not authored a file system,

1. no one would care about this case
2. most would assume his guilt

a lot pof people here think of themselves as intelligent and unbiased. if you assumed reiser's innocence, take a good har dlook in the mirror. tribal-level prejudice flows in your veins

Re:this reminds me of oj simpson (4, Insightful)

Paralizer (792155) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708185)

if you assumed reiser's innocence, take a good har dlook in the mirror
Everyone should be assumed innocent until it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that they are guilty. I don't need to look in the mirror to know that...

Re:this reminds me of oj simpson (1)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708249)

A lot of users here were able to look at the evidence available and make decisions from that. There was a lot of weird stuff going on in this trial, from his hosing out his car to his wife's crazy friend who said he had killed people before. I can see armchair jurors latching on to either side just with stuff like that. Yes, I'm sure bias did play in here but don't a lot of us just want a happy ending? As in the wife was just hiding out in Russia and Hans was innocent (of murder at least). I personally thought he was guilty but I have no experience with Reiser and his file system. It's a sad story though.

Re:this reminds me of oj simpson (4, Interesting)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708339)

tribal-level prejudice flows in your veins

Yup. I think that such biases are actually stronger in support of someone for irrational tribal reasons than they are, these days, when it comes to being irrationally against someone who's not in your tribe. Classic examples these days would be the small number of people who poll saying they'd vote against Obama because he's black, compared to the huge number who will (and say they will!) vote for him because he's (to whatever degree) black. The folks who completely tossed their reason out the window over Reiser because he's a fellow nerd really do get a chance to stop and think, now. It's very similar to those that tolerate script kiddies and web site defacers because they feel some kinship to them, despite the fact that if the same kids did something similar in meat space (to their car, with spray paint) they'd get all upset.

It was fair to assume Reiser's innocence until the testimony and his behavior started stacking up.

Hmph (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23708069)

Note the absence of Hans Reiser's actual statements. For the moment, this may as well be just speculative spin doctoring by Orloff.

Nerds and Geeks (2, Insightful)

mlwmohawk (801821) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708161)

Poor Hans.

We nerds and geeks have real issues with interpersonal relationships. We spend so much intellectual focus on concrete matters that the ambiguities and unsolvable problems of relationships seem almost alien and impossible with which to cope.

If the stated facts are true, she was having an affair and embezzled money from the company. People have killed and have been killed for less.

What makes it hard is that Hans didn't watch enough CSI or Columbo to get away with it. The two kids losing their mom is tragic. I can't say the woman had it coming, but everyone knows that sort of behavior triggers primal and violent reactions. How enraged would you be?

Its certainly murder, but not 1st degree.

Don't feed the computers! (0, Troll)

aceofspades1217 (1267996) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708219)

ReiserFS is created by mad men...mad men I tell yah. Next thing you know every computer with ReiserFS is going to becomes alive and go on a murderous rampage. Watch for the hail of CDs and floppy diskettes (yes linux computer still have those :P).

They are even coming out with a secret weapon...the ZIP DISK, tun tun tuuuun.

Remmber guys

"Hold your hat and hang on to your soul
Something's coming to eat the world whole"

WATEVER THEY OFFER YOU....though it sounds really awesome and effient

DONT INSTALL REISERFSSSSSS

Not cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23708225)

The story tag "linuxbusiness" was unnecessary.

Show some professionalism.

He's Got a Backup (1, Offtopic)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 6 years ago | (#23708293)

That doesn't prove he did it. He's just restoring a copy of her body from the journal.

Maybe the real story here is about a bizarre lab failure during experiments to back up his girlfriend, every geek's dream.
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