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WWDC '08 Sees Slimmer, Improved, 3G iPhone

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 6 years ago | from the newer-hawtness dept.

Communications 804

Many of us have been watching Apple's WWDC 2008 keynote unfold live. There are many exciting tidbits, but most of all is the announcement of the 3G iPhone. Featuring an even thinner profile, black plastic back, metal buttons, flush headphone jack, improved audio, GPS support, and improved battery life, this is bound to make quite a few people stand up and take notice. Update 18:54 GMT by SM: Best of all it looks like they really took the price point to heart, 8GB iPhones are now $199 and a 16GB model will be available for $299, coming to an Apple store riot near you on July 11,2008.

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Verizon (-1, Offtopic)

effigiate (1057610) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713263)

But can I get it on the Verizon network? Where I live, Verizon is the best provider so I'm unwilling to switch to ATT just for the iPhone.

Re:Verizon (4, Informative)

oahazmatt (868057) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713395)

But can I get it on the Verizon network? Where I live, Verizon is the best provider so I'm unwilling to switch to ATT just for the iPhone.
No. It's GSM. You'd have to use CDMA on Verizon.

Oddly enough, one program, "Loopt" is available on both providers, but I cannot find it in any of the App listings on Vz's website.

Re:Verizon (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23713581)

"Unwilling" is always your problem and nobody else's.

Already? (2, Insightful)

norminator (784674) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713269)

I know people are excited about it and all, but I would think that we'd wait at least until Steve is done talking about the 3G iPhone on the stage before posting this on Slashdot... Digg is for posting announcements before they're even done announcing them. I'm pretty sure there's still some features that haven't been covered yet...

Re:Already? (1)

SilentGhost (964190) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713335)

why can't you wait just two minutes? he left the stage

Biggest news is... (3, Informative)

Glock27 (446276) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713271)

3G 8 GB iPhone at $199!!!

Re:Biggest news is... (5, Interesting)

norminator (784674) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713303)

My question is how does that affect the price of the other iPods, especially the Nano and the Touch... I guess that will probably be answered in the next couple of minutes... Hopefully, anyway. Maybe it just means larger Nanos at the same price point, and reduced prices on the Touches.

Re:Biggest news is... (2, Insightful)

twitchingbug (701187) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713355)

I would think the phone contract is enough to dissuade people. There are already people out there that would've bought gen1 except for a) the carrier b) existing phone contracts.

Re:Biggest news is... (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713407)

My question is how does that affect the price of the other iPods, especially the Nano and the Touch
Repeat after me: the iPhone is a phone, not an iPod.

Completely different markets. I doubt that the price of the iPhone will have any bearing on what Apple decides for the Nano. Maybe the Touch -- but only because it's built from the same components. But my real guess is the Touch is going to stay where it's at.

Re:Biggest news is... (5, Interesting)

norminator (784674) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713599)

Well, it looks like he didn't have any announcements about prices on iPods, and according to the Apple Store, they're still all the same. But the iPhone was always described as "The best iPod [Apple] has ever made," among other things...

And now, for $199, you can buy an 8GB 3G iPhone, which is a pretty sweet iPod plus a phone, internet connectivity, 3rd party apps, or you can buy an 8GB nano, which is just an iPod with a tiny screen and a wheel. I understand that this new iPhone price may be subsidized by the carriers, and that it probably locks a customer into the 2 year contract even more than they were with the old iPhone, but still, there's something about seeing these prices on the website that just doesn't sit right. Not to mention that the 8GB iPhone is now $100 less expensive than the 8GB iPod Touch, which has less hardware built into it... (by the way, does the Touch get GPS, too?).

I'm still expecting either price cuts or big storage increases on the Flash-based iPods. In any case, if I were in the market for a new iPod, I'd wait a little longer before I buy.

Re:Biggest news is... (2, Informative)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713681)

iPhone + jailbreak = iPod touch with GPS at $100 discount.

Re:Biggest news is... (2, Funny)

keytoe (91531) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713529)

The 8GB iPod Touch is currently listed at $299 on the store. SWEET DEAL!

Re:Biggest news is... (5, Insightful)

_Hiro_ (151911) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713621)

8GB Touch $299.

8GB iPhone $199 + $59.99 * 24 = $1638.76

I think the touch is the better deal. :P

Re:Biggest news is... (1)

Firehed (942385) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713641)

Heh.

But the iPod Touch doesn't need to be activated, unlike the iPhone. Not that it will matter after a week, but still...

Re:Biggest news is... (1)

fermion (181285) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713403)

I suppose they are counting on kickbacks from the two year contract with the cell phone company to generate profits. That is fine, I guess. Only problem is that it keeps people from upgrading the phone. If I have to sign up for another two years, it is unlikely I will upgrading for a long time.

Re:Biggest news is... (5, Interesting)

TheAlmightyQ (306969) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713493)

The question is, can you walk into the store and get an iPhone for this price, without having to sign a 2 year contract.

The reason the iPhone originally cost so much more than we're used to seeing phones cost, is because it was not subsidized by a 2 year service contract.

Now that they've lowered the price, can I still walk into the Apple store and buy a new iPhone and walk out without signing a contract.

Re:Biggest news is... (1)

papna (1242200) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713595)

The iPhone wasn't unsubsidised by contracts when it first came out. Yes, you could walk into the store, buy an iPhone, and walk out, no strings attached. However, Apple and AT&T knew what you were going to do with it and counted on that when pricing their products.

Re:Biggest news is... (2, Informative)

teh kurisu (701097) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713613)

Looks like the lower price comes from carrier subsidy. They're no longer available to buy direct from the online Apple Store. You have to do it in a brick and mortar store, or on the O2 or Carphone Warehouse websites (which haven't been updated yet, Boo-urns), which I suspect means signing up for a contract before you get your hands on one.

Still no word on UK pricing either.

Re:Biggest news is... (-1, Flamebait)

mc900ftjesus (671151) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713665)

At least it's priced fairly for being the world's smartest dumbphone.

YEEEEAH! (1)

BenphemeR (1301865) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713275)

$299 for 16GB, now THAT's affordable!

Re:YEEEEAH! (1, Insightful)

Duncan3 (10537) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713393)

Not if you don't ignore the several thousand dollar 2-year contract.

Re:YEEEEAH! (2, Insightful)

Neko-kun (750955) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713461)

But does it really matter if you're signing up for a 2-year contract with ATT anyway?

I ask this only because most of the people I've met with iPhones didn't switch, they were already on AT&T's network.

Re:YEEEEAH! (4, Informative)

EastCoastSurfer (310758) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713523)

Not if you don't ignore the several thousand dollar 2-year contract.

Several? Lets say you get a normalish plan and with taxes ends up costing you $100/month. So over the course of 2 years you spend $2400. This plan would include something like 900 minutes, unlimited nights/weekends, unlimited data, and 1500 texts. The Sprint everything plan is $99/month and that's before taxes (although it does include unlimited minutes). Can you show me any other cell phone with unlimited data that's cheaper than I've listed here?

Re:YEEEEAH! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23713531)

Does anyone know the availability/pricing of a 3G iPhone without the contract?

Re:YEEEEAH! (4, Insightful)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713495)

$199 for 8 GB, though, intrestingly enough, puts it more in direct competition with much, much lower end phones. Like, say, the Motorola Razor or the LG Envy, which are at a similar price point with probably a tenth of the functionality.

Maybe Apple has something here that will turn the smartphone market on its ear.

EBay is happy! (-1, Troll)

LibertineR (591918) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713285)

Support for Word, Excel & PowerPoint? With Exchange Push, who the fuck wants a Blackberry? And, if you have an iPhone 1.0, how stupid do feel now? My guess is millions available on EBay this week.

Re:EBay is happy! (4, Informative)

jmauro (32523) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713329)

All of the featrure you mentioned will be available in "early July" to the original iPhone users when the 2.0 version of the firmware is released. Only hardware upgrades like GPS and 3G won't be.

Re:EBay is happy! (1, Troll)

LibertineR (591918) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713487)

Somehow, I don't think that will be enough to stem the anger over the new price point. If I own an early iPhone today, I am not a happy camper.

Re:EBay is happy! (0, Troll)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713553)

If you buy Apple hardware early, you're a sucker. this happens with practically all of their products. They should know better by now.

Of course, I guess there have to be early-adopters for them to bring out the good, cheap 2nd version.

Re:EBay is happy! (1)

papna (1242200) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713633)

Early adopters pay more. That's how it works. When your manufacturer releases a new product a year later that's cheaper, you have no, no place to complain.

Re:EBay is happy! (4, Insightful)

EastCoastSurfer (310758) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713577)

I have an iPhone 1.0 and bought it knowing that I don't live in a 3G area (that and GPS are the only new things I won't be able to get). That's like saying anyone who owned anything prior to a new version coming out is going to feel stupid. If anything I would think that geeks understand that technology usually a) moves at a quick pace and b) gets more features and usually goes down in price over time.

Finally, I want one (1)

Illbay (700081) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713287)

Didn't even blink at the first entry, because of lack of 3G. Now, color my ears "perked."

Re:Finally, I want one (3, Insightful)

peragrin (659227) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713437)

i never buy revision A apple hardware. let the fanatics bug test the hardware.

damn glad I did too. with built in GPS, better battery life, real apps.

I just feel sorry for the 6 million original iPhones that are about to hit ebay. Then again if Apple sold 6 million regular iPhones with version 2 coming out in a month in 70 countries just how many more will they sell? the 10 million iphones sold is going to be a drop in the bucket. i would almost expect 12 million units shipped by the end of the year.

Buttons? (0, Troll)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713289)

Metal Buttons? I thought the iPhone didn't have any buttons.

Re:Buttons? (3, Informative)

BarryJacobsen (526926) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713401)

Metal Buttons? I thought the iPhone didn't have any buttons.
There are several, actually: Power, Home, Volume up and down, and a slider for silent mode.

This is also likely to... (-1, Redundant)

teh1337striker (1029924) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713307)

Piss off just about every person who has purchased an iPhone.

Re:This is also likely to... (3, Funny)

IndustrialComplex (975015) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713353)

Or really interest those of us who are already pissed off at Verizon.

"Thank you Steve, may I have another?" (0, Troll)

LibertineR (591918) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713397)

True, but Apple customers are quite used to taking their yearly beating, and begging for more. No 3G kept me from the first iPhone, but I'll get one now, just so I can laugh at those who blew $500 on the first version, WITHOUT 3G. I intend much abuse.

Re:This is also likely to... (5, Insightful)

Solkar (647667) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713489)

Why? Because a consumer electronics company refreshed a product? Should I be pissed at Sony every few months when they upgrade their camcorders? Should I be mad that the camcorder I bought from them five years ago cost more and is less capable than one I could buy today? Ditto with HP - the LaserJet model I bought in 2001 cost about $900. I can get one today that does the same job (and has more RAM) for $300 (or less). HP owes me $600!

Price... (3, Informative)

msauve (701917) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713313)

$199/8GB, $299/16GB. Available 7/11 in 22 countries.

Re:Price... (1)

ttul (193303) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713373)

From the engadget coverage:

Showing all the countries, playing Small World -- most of South America... Norway, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, Poland, Czech, Switzerland, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Malta, Croatia, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Greece, Turkey, Jordan, Egypt, Niger, Mali, Senegal, Guinea, Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Kenya, Botswana, South Africa... man, way too many countries!

Re:Price... (1)

BenphemeR (1301865) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713381)

does that mean 7/11 for USA?

Re:Price... (1, Informative)

ttul (193303) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713417)

Yes, it will be released 7/11 in the USA.

Re:Price... (5, Funny)

Plug (14127) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713521)

Available at the 7/11? They're really breaking new ground with distribution of this one!

Re:Price... (1)

necro81 (917438) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713611)

Bummer, I was hoping the Kwik-E-Mart would get the exclusive on this one.

Re:Price... (1)

fux (68906) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713661)

Not for this price on all countries...

Text Selection (1)

kdogg73 (771674) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713315)

Does it select text yet?

w00t (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23713317)

First comment!

What is the data rate $20 /m $40 /m also 3g cap? (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713331)

What is the data rate $20 /m $40 /m also 3g cap? 5gb may be too small for this phone.

First post? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23713333)

Beat my expected $250 price. Nice going Apple.

Quick! (1)

joshlewis (666855) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713345)

Quick, somebody find a reason why it's not good enough yet, or I might have to absolutely freaking love it! This looks like a smash hit to me.

Re:Quick! (1, Insightful)

jbeaupre (752124) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713565)

The bitter aftertaste of the Kool-Aid.

fp! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23713347)

fp! hooray!

I'm sitting down... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23713359)

but part of me is standing up! I hope no one takes notice...

Holy crap no a2dp AGAIN? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23713365)

A music phone that can't play music wirelessly, a year after the competition delivered it? It is impossible to express the sheer quantity of FAIL.

Re:Holy crap no a2dp AGAIN? (1)

SethJohnson (112166) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713549)

I think that's available for third parties to create.

Seth

2 hours (0, Flamebait)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713371)

and almost NOTHING about the mac....despite WWDC being billed as something for both Mac AND iPhone devs....who cares about mobile me? I guess it shows where Apple's priorities are, since given all the shit that has been wrong with Leopard, they certainly aren't on the Mac.

Re:2 hours (4, Informative)

RemovableBait (885871) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713429)

To be fair, he did say right at the beginning that there'd be a presentation offering a glimpse of OS 10.6 'Snow Leopard' after lunch and that this morning's keynote was just about the iPhone.

Re:2 hours (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23713443)

They are devoting the whole afternoon to the mac platform and updates planned for Snow Leopard.

Re:2 hours (-1, Troll)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713479)

They are worried about releasing a new OS when their current one is a piece of garbage? Um, brilliant? I guess I would have liked some affirmation from Steve that Apple is hard at work trying to make Leopard the most stable OS they have released, but instead I guess I will have to shell out more money for that. I'm seriously tempted to go to Linux at this point. Apple is getting to be WORSE than Microsoft.

Re:2 hours (1)

Reality Master 201 (578873) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713647)

The rumor is (and we'll know for sure this afternoon) that Snow Leopard will be a bug fix/performance release, targeted for early next year, possibly involving the elimination of support for PowerPC, among other things.

Re:2 hours (1)

xutopia (469129) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713689)

What's so bad about Leopard?

Re:2 hours (1)

Space cowboy (13680) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713445)

I guess you missed the announcement of the next keynote, all about SnowLeopard... Starting right now, in fact :)

Re:2 hours (1)

ptbarnett (159784) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713473)

and almost NOTHING about the mac....despite WWDC being billed as something for both Mac AND iPhone devs....

Jobs opened the keynote with an announcement they would be talking about Snow Leopard after lunch.

Pricing (1)

quark1943 (1054426) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713385)

While at $199 you get great many features like GPS, 3G, full browsing along with fully functional phone, its the darn at&t lock-in for 2 years with $20 premium every month (on top of a typical smart-phone tariff) that I need to shell-out gets me thinking. Still a great bargain compared to my windows mobile phone with blue-tooth GPS dongle and third-party crappy applications.

Can hardly beat the prices (2, Informative)

AchiIIe (974900) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713391)

The rock bottom price for a GPS device nowadays is $150. You can switch to the iPhone for merely $199. Can't beat it. Oh and for our european friends: It's merely â126, Four our british friends: it's merely £100

Re:Can hardly beat the prices (1)

mustardayonnaise (685416) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713451)

yes, but you're not going to spend an additional $100/month to use your GPS device.

Re:Can hardly beat the prices (1)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713587)

Is GPS function disabled if you don't nave service?

Re:Can hardly beat the prices (2, Interesting)

aeskdar (1136689) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713623)

yes, but you're not going to spend an additional $100/month to use your GPS device.

I plan on unlocking mine...

Re:Can hardly beat the prices (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23713527)

Four our british friends

Our British friends still spell "for" the same.

Re:Can hardly beat the prices (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23713535)

Tack on the huge monthly data plan, and your $199 iPhone comparison begins to sink real fast.

I'll stick with my SERO plan, including unlimited data, Opera mobile browser, and $60 GPS add-on from eBay, thanks.

Re:Can hardly beat the prices (2, Insightful)

Harold Halloway (1047486) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713547)

Except that it won't be £100. Technology prices never obey exchange rates. I would expect the $199 device to cost at least £169. If it were £100 even I might be tempted to buy one!

Re:Can hardly beat the prices (1)

badboy_tw2002 (524611) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713569)

It all depends on the software. Also the antenna. I have the GPS in my AT&T Tilt (also known as "Kaiser/TyTNII/HTC 8925) and I'd qualify it as "alright". The main difference I see is how long it takes to lock into a signal, and the trouble you get sometimes going around a city or heavily wooded area. There is the option of an external antenna, but that costs $ and "real" GPS devices seem to have beefier antennas built in. You also need to drop $150-$200 on GPS software (or ...ahem... find it elsewhere for cheaper). Google maps is NOT GPS navigational software - it just doesn't compare with TomTom because it doesn't have stuff like voice updates, time to destiantion, rerouting, etc. And there's the fact that you're out of 3G zone a lot of time. So if you do that, you've dropped extra bucks on software, and 25% of that 8GB flash is now map data.

Don't get me wrong - having GPS built in is a great thing, and I use it almost every day w/ google maps, but its not a stand in for a dedicated GPS device unless you a) buy the extra software, b) get an external GPS antenna.

Re:Can hardly beat the prices (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23713643)

Well, dollar-euro conversions don't work that way when multinational corporations are involved.

May be 199 euro will be more accurate, in countries where phones cannot be locked to just one carrier, as in France.
In other coutries, hopefully a 18 contract with some European carrier will make them available for 100 euros or less.

By the way, did they forget bluetooth again?

Huh? (1)

msauve (701917) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713685)

You can buy GPS's all day, as many as you want, for under $100. Here's one. [tigergps.com] Here's another. [gorillagps.com]

And no monthly service fee, or penalty for early cancellation.

But can I use my Mac as an interface? (1)

Neko-kun (750955) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713399)

Like with using Bluephone Elite to quickly type up a text message using a real keyboard and leaving my phone in my pocket...

Seriously, this is the only technological hinderance keeping me from getting an iPhone now that it covers everything that Sony Ericsson has to offer -_-'
Either way, it's damn tempting to get one now...

Re:But can I use my Mac as an interface? (1)

teknopurge (199509) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713483)

Why would you need to do that when you can use a widget to send SMS from the desktop?

Dog first, then tail...

Anonymous Coward (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23713405)

Omitting certain countries is in my opinion not the best way to make your coverage look better:

  http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/06/wwdc-keynote_185.jpg

Isn't there something missing in the North Atlantic?

Can existing users upgrade? (4, Interesting)

sacrilicious (316896) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713421)

Does Apple allow existing users to upgrade, possibly restarting their 2yr contract, or are they forced to hold to the terms of their previous contract with the old hardware?

Camera upgrade?????? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23713431)

Depressing, still no video and no camera upgrade. Half what I was hoping for but the other half was a disappointment. How about charge another $100 and give me a better camera model and what's with the no video support???? Kind of a let down after waiting a year.

Re:Camera upgrade?????? (1)

mustardayonnaise (685416) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713491)

why is a good camera so important on this? if you're gonna play ansel adams it seems like you'd probably get a REAL camera instead of using the iphone cam... for what it does, the builtin cam is quite fine IMHO

No 32GB = Still Waiting (1)

Andrew Nagy (985144) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713435)

The main reason I would want an iPhone is to eliminate the need to carry around my phone and my iPod. Since I have just over 25GB of music on it at the moment, it looks like I'll have to wait a little longer. I'm not sure why they came out with a 32GB iPod touch and not a 32GB iPhone, but it's pretty disappointing to me.

Re:No 32GB = Still Waiting (1)

laffer1 (701823) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713567)

imagine someone with 160GB of content (video + music) in iTunes. It doesn't work for me if i want to carry everything either. You can't pick your top 8GB of favorites? Seriously. That's the price of combo devices. For me, the lack of choice with mobile carriers is still a problem. I may have to go with palm or windows based devices on my next phone upgrade.

Blah. (-1, Troll)

Schmool (809874) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713439)

No FM radio. Less space than a nomad. Lame.

gPhone Android (1)

JavamanPDX (1304665) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713455)

I want to wait for android to be released, but with nothing on the horizon I'm willing to shell out a modest $200 for an improved iPhone. I've heard rumors that Google may make an announcement shortly after this one, maybe within a week or so? (I hope) Anyone know?

Not upset about iPhone 1.0 (4, Insightful)

TibbonZero (571809) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713459)

I am not upset about purchasing/owning the iPhone 1.0. It's been leaps and bounds above my Treo 650 and I needed a new iPod anyway.

I knew from day 1 that that price would come down on future versions. The Apple Lisa was $9,995 in 1983 which is around $21,000 today in 2008. That was the baseline model. As technology grows, things get cheaper. If you haven't picked up this, then perhaps you shouldn't buy technology products. You didn't "have" to buy an iPhone, and you should have seen this coming. You shouldn't also buy such a phone if you can't afford it.

At the same time, they are upgrading the firmware on the older phones still. My current one still gives me all the battery life I need for reasonable use. I am in a major city (Boston) with wifi almost everywhere. I don't drive, and thus the GPS is a non-feature.

Anyone that acts "upset" over the new features, and price drop, needs to grow up.

They didn't add any killer features for me. If they had added even something like the (much rumored, but obviously a lie) video chat functionality or something insane then maybe I'd have thought otherwise. Funny how those rumors/lies got around.

Denial aint a river, baby! (-1, Troll)

LibertineR (591918) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713555)

I suppose, when you drop the price of two 2.0 phones on the new model, your choices are to either bitch and moan or accept your fate, eh? Steve Jobs depends upon you suc-, uh you good natured folks. God, love ya.

Where's the meat? (3, Interesting)

stokessd (89903) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713465)

The OS has had a full point release and there doesn't seem to be much for it.

Where's iChat or am I supposed to keep spending like $0.15 a text for SMS. Speaking of SMS, where's the damn MMS?

How about spam filtering on the mail client. This is supposed to be "just like the desktop OS X" so how hard can it be to upgrade the mail client to more completely resemble the functionality of mail.app on the desktop?

No discussion of how the 1st gen phones will handle location.

Nice one month slip on the OS and app store.

So as a 1st generation owner, the only major upgrade in my day to day is the ability to get 3rd party apps. Hopefully 3rd party apps will fill in the gaping holes.

A little adblock would be super helpful too...

Sheldon

Re:Where's the meat? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23713657)

I would bet that iChat comes in Sept when their background notification service launches

Re:Where's the meat? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23713667)

And I bet your not satisfied with you penis size either because it doesn't reach your own mouth you whiny bastard.

And now the small print... (4, Informative)

Dzimas (547818) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713497)

From the apple site: "# Requires new 2-year AT&T rate plan, sold separately." In other words, there's no such thing as a $199 iPhone. Plans start at $59.99, so you're looking at a minimum outlay of $1638.76 plus tax over two years.

Re:And now the small print... (4, Informative)

Dzimas (547818) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713573)

Oops. I forgot AT&T's $36 new line activation fee and their monthly Regulatory Cost Recovery Charge of up to $1.25. The grand total now stands at $1704.76.

Re:And now the small print... (1)

Buzz_Litebeer (539463) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713617)

Question for you, what are the "extra" costs.

Right now I have a high end data phone for Sprint and with the "extra" costs (BS shit like paying for university wireless coverage? WTF?) I am paying 64 bucks a month for a shittier plan than the IPHONE.

So how much "more" does someone have to pay every single month for the Iphone that is hidden?

Re:And now the small print... (1)

MistaE (776169) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713637)

This is not new. So please, what's your point? It's a cell phone. You're going to pay close to that for any cellular device. At least they lowered the cost for the device.

The iPod touch is free with an edu purchase. Go pick up one of those.

failback? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23713507)

So, Phone Geeks. Your wisdom please:

Are people that do not live within a 3G service area completely SOL, or will it fall back to Good'ol Edge?

MMS (1)

Rinisari (521266) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713583)

Still no MMS support? Count me out. That's something I gotta have! Sending to email is not sufficient.

Obligatory (0, Redundant)

FurtiveGlancer (1274746) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713585)

Yes, but will it run Li... Wow, that's pretty cool. Sweet touch screen. Look at it flip, awesome! Gotta get me one of those!

Will over seas iphone be unlocked by law and will (4, Interesting)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713593)

Will over seas iphone be unlocked by law and will it work in the us.

AT&T? (0)

DirePickle (796986) | more than 6 years ago | (#23713601)

What contract do you have to sign to get those prices? Do I have to pay $100/month to AT&T? For how long? Fifty years?
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