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Road Rage Linked To Automobile Bumper Stickers

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the jesus-loves-you-now-back-off dept.

Transportation 1065

Ponca City, We Love You sends news of a study by Colorado State University psychologist William Szlemko that recorded whether people had added seat covers, bumper stickers, special paint jobs, stereos, or plastic dashboard toys to their cars. Szlemko found a link between road rage and the number of personalized items on or in people's vehicles. "The number of territory markers predicted road rage better than vehicle value, condition, or any of the things that we normally associate with aggressive driving,' says Szlemko. What's more, only the number of bumper stickers, and not their content, predicted road rage... Szlemko suggests that this territoriality may encourage road rage because drivers are simultaneously in a private space (their car) and a public one (the road). 'We think they are forgetting that the public road is not theirs, and are exhibiting territorial behavior that normally would only be acceptable in personal space,' the researcher says.

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in other news (5, Insightful)

siddesu (698447) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820613)

tasteless people behave in tasteless manner. still no cure for cancer though.

Re:in other news (0, Troll)

PakProtector (115173) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820661)

I thought we did have a cure for cancer? The same one as the cure for Haemophilia.

You let the people predisposed to both die before reproducing.

Re:in other news (1)

MrNaz (730548) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820681)

That is both scientifically invalid and tasteless. But like the OP said...

Re:in other news (0, Offtopic)

PakProtector (115173) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820687)

Really? Natural selection is scientifically invalid?

Perhaps we can have this conversation when you can get over your emotional responses, and realise that morals are not absolutes, and what is right or wrong is not necessarily that which is effective or efficient, or what works.

Re:in other news (2, Insightful)

RockModeNick (617483) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820747)

Two things. With the cancer at least, the point being made is that it tends to occur late in life, and therefor, yes, natural selection is an ineffective method for for removing the predisposition, since reproductive opportunities have already presented themselves. More to the point, a "cure" is generally understood to mean something that removes an affliction from an individual, and thus natural selection, which acts on genetic trends in a population, can't ever be the cure for anything.

Re:in other news (-1, Offtopic)

PakProtector (115173) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820795)

Two things:

A) Who said we were talking about curing the patient? Or what was good for the individual? The species' survival is more important than the survival of any single individual.

B) Some people can't understand humour. Please look at the Progenitor post (such as use of the word 'tasteless.')

Re:in other news (3, Insightful)

ubrgeek (679399) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820861)

A) Who said we were talking about curing the patient?

Actually, I thought we were talking about road rage and got off on this tangent.

And I kind of assumed road rage was caused by assholes and had nothing to do with spinning wheel covers (or whatever they're called), etc. Granted the two seem to go together, but I'm not sure it's cause-and-effect.

Re:in other news (1)

RockModeNick (617483) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820919)

Cure is generally used as I explained it's generally used, thats why the joke is a stretch, and thus, easily misinterpreted and less funny, especially since the OP used it as I explained it. Nobody said anything about the good of the individual vs the survival of the species other than you, which is why I think the joke was off-target and got the response it did. I think they did understand it was intended to be humor, and simply found the humor, as they said, tasteless, particularly so since it was such a stretch to apply it and yes, scientifically incorrect to do so using the word cure in the original context. To start a side discussion for fun, it's arguable that cancer killing off older generations at any point after they are no longer effective enough at passing on knowledge to increase the chances of survival for the reproductive age members of the species IS good for the species as a whole. (Note - I am not suggesting we study old people to discover what nutrients they might contain.)

Re:in other news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23821087)

help!i have virii on my lunix boxen!!

Re:in other news (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23820823)

Really? Natural selection is scientifically invalid?

My mother died of cancer at 69, having lived long past the age of childbearing. She died of the same kind of cancer that had killed her mother, who had quite a few more children than my mother did, and all but one of those children had children of their own. So yes, your claim that cancer can be cured by natural selection is scientifically invalid, as it does not fit the available data, of which I just mentioned a few data points.

(Posting anonymously, as I am not asking for anyone's sympathy.)

Re:in other news (-1, Offtopic)

PakProtector (115173) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820885)

An animal killing its defective offspring is natural selection. So is a human animal aborting a defective fetus before it comes to term.

It doesn't stop being natural just because we do it. Or because we employ tools other animals don't have.

Anyway. In your mother's cause, we have to proof that she had some sort of specific genetic susceptibility to cancer. And until we have a more through mapping of the human genome and proteome to determine what genes are oncogenes, it's all speculation.

Re:in other news (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23821093)

An animal kills defective offspring to save resources. That is something we couldn't rationalize in human(e) society. As for eugenics and all... please stop and think about it for a moment: new traits develop not among the fittest, but as an adaptation among those who are losers in their main line of living. Otherwise, there would be only one specie in the world and that one would be a superkiller "Alien"-like creature, each specimen eating all the other specimens of it that it can defeat. The underachievers of one specie are those who experiment and rub elbows with species inhabiting neighboring niches or discovering their own, uninhabited ones. Remember Timon & Pumbaa from "Lion King"? Eventually, some trait that is a "gross disfiguration and an error of nature" becomes useful in their twitching for survival, suddenly they find how to live optimally, considering their specific configuration, often suddenly opening gates into an universe of possibilities and sometimes eventually becoming a topdog. Same applies in society, or even in individual life stories - it is called "overcompensation", from predestined loser to big-time winner. Now, if were to eradicate certain genes we consider harmful, that would possibly actually make us vulnerable to changes, in the long run.

Re:in other news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23820853)

To back up MrNaz, may I state clearly and unequivocally that you have very little understanding of the science behind inherited diseases, cancers or natural selection.

To expand upon MrNaz's comment - it is scientifically invalid because it shows no understanding of disease inheritance versus reproductive age, even if this was relevant in most cancers. Your suggestion is thus flawed (most genetic predispositions toward cancer result in the disease after reproductive age is reached - selection pressure is reduced due to this. This also ignores the fact that cancers are multifactorial in nature, are the result of both genetic, environmental and stochastic factors, have variable penetration, involve epigenetic events, and for those which are the result of genetic influences can be spontaneous rather than inherited).

In short, please finish high school, take some basic biology, and learn a little more before you spout off next time.

(This is a very basic summary and ignores such possible effects as antagonistic pleiotropy which may play a role in certain cancers as well).

Oh yeah, I am a PhD in biochemistry, and I have carried out research on cancer (I've been published in Nature Genetics).

Re:in other news (-1, Offtopic)

PakProtector (115173) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820913)

People who tout their credentials and then hide behind anonymity, thus rendering the proof of those credentials impossible to obtain, sir, are not accredited for the purpose of argument.

I actually understand a great deal about inheritance, natural selection, sexual selection, et cetera. People who survive long enough to produce without needing lifesaving medical intervention are not the people we're talking about here -- or at least not the people I'm talking about. Maybe you should just stop and think for a moment before getting up on your high, emotional, horse.

Cancer in people past the age at which they can reproduce is actually a beneficial adaptation -- they can no longer reproduce, and their genes would be better served by them not taking up those resources so they can be utilised by those who can reproduce -- their children.

However, cancer that strikes and kills before you can reproduce is, indeed, a bad thing.

The solution is to let these people die without spreading the gene.

Re:in other news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23821083)

OK. Ready to play "you bet your kid"? You are now looking into the eyes of your lisping, doe-eyed, sweet-faced toddler (adapted by evolution so that his juvenile face makes adult humans want to protect him). You're saying "Sorry, sweetheart. You have to die because we can't have you polluting the gene pool. Oh, and it's going to hurt. Lots." On the other hand, maybe it's not a worry. You don't sound like the kind of person anybody's going to want to reproduce with.

Re:in other news (1)

MrNaz (730548) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821031)

Cancer is (at least according to current theory) the result of cellular mutation at the individual cell level, not even at the anatomical level of the organism. It is completely unrelated to natural selection at the species level.

Read up on topics if you plan on talking down at people about them.

Re:in other news (0, Offtopic)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820705)

It's been tried. [google.com]

Re:in other news (-1, Offtopic)

PakProtector (115173) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820715)

No, no, it really hasn't.

Last time I checked being Jewish wasn't a deleterious mutation.

Re:in other news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23820789)

It is if you're in my vicinity ;o)

Re:in other news (-1, Offtopic)

PakProtector (115173) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820935)

I'm sorry, I didn't know there were so many Nazis sympathisers on /. What part of me saying that being Jewish is not a bad thing did you not understand?

Re:in other news (0, Offtopic)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821049)

Mod everything but parent in this thread: Offtopic.

I don't have enough points, and will take the karma hit gladly.

Fr0sty p1ss (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23820615)

111 yeahhh

if u c4n r34d th15 (-1, Offtopic)

retech (1228598) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820625)

ur 0n /.

what about the obvious ? (2, Interesting)

dickbot (1116661) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820639)

"The number of territory markers predicted road rage better than vehicle value, condition, or any of the things that we normally associate with aggressive driving,"

Measuring the degree of car territorialisation to predict road rage? Seems like a damn roundabout way of doing it, you might as well measure your car velocity by looking at the apparent motion of the stars.

I suspect analyzing drivers' I.Q would make a simpler, better job at predicting stupid road behaviour.

Re:what about the obvious ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23820671)

I've got an IQ of 160 and I drive like a complete bastard, you insensitive clod.

Re:what about the obvious ? (1)

siddesu (698447) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821039)

I am a complete bastard, and I have never had road rage.

Re:what about the obvious ? (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23820689)

I suspect analyzing drivers' I.Q would make a simpler, better job at predicting stupid road behaviour.
..and skin colour.

Re:what about the obvious ? (5, Insightful)

RustinHWright (1304191) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820757)

Bubelah, part of the point of the article is that this was a correlation they weren't expecting to find. That's what science is. You collect data based on a rough idea of where you should look and only when you've looked at the data do you start finalizing your conclusions on what you're looking at.

Re:what about the obvious ? (4, Insightful)

dintech (998802) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820925)

That's right. The phrase 'linked to' in the title is a dead giveaway. Otherwise the submitter would have used 'caused by'.

Re:what about the obvious ? (1)

capt.Hij (318203) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820951)

Bubelah, part of the point of the article is that this was a correlation they weren't expecting to find. That's what science is. You collect data based on a rough idea of where you should look and only when you've looked at the data do you start finalizing your conclusions on what you're looking at.
That is not science. In science you make a prediction based on sound principles, and then you design a set of controlled experiments to test your hypothesis. If you simply collect data based on a rough idea you are going to find correlations simply due to chance alone. If you happen to find an unexpected correlation then you re-evaluate your ideas and then come up with a new set of experiments. To present your work before confirming unexpected findings is irresponsible.

IQ and bumper stickers (1, Flamebait)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820791)

Well I think they have a point, you have to have a pretty low IQ to festoon your car with bumper stickers. The things are not easy to get off, look like crap as they wear, and genuinely don't do the paint or finish any good. Putting them in the windows is just as bad as many will block line of sight.

Too many times bumper stickers are just pretentious slaps at people around the driver who has some deluded belief that they are the only righteous person on the planet. I am not speaking of religious righteousness, I am talking about that self important I am saving the world while your just killing it tripe. Still my favorites are those who put political candidate tags on their cars. Better are those who leave them on well after the fact.

Its like having a neighborhood of Prius owners who all drive their cars to work solo.

Failure to carpool outside company towns (1, Offtopic)

tepples (727027) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821075)

I am talking about that self important I am saving the world while your just killing it tripe.

Its like having a neighborhood of Prius owners who all drive their cars to work solo.
I'd see your point in a company town [wikipedia.org] . But in most practical cities, different people work at different places and different times. Carpooling is efficient when one person doesn't have to go too far out of his way to pick up someone else. If one is taking some measures to reduce his energy consumption, then how does not living in the same part of town as somebody else who works in the same building make him a hypocrite?

Re:what about the obvious ? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23820803)

It, however, is much easier to jump to a conclusion about a person that you are sharing the road with by the looks of their vehicle. Can you imagine trying to give a person an intelligence test at 70 mph?

Not hard (5, Funny)

smitty_one_each (243267) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820655)

This problem's not hard,
And for societal win,
To irresponsible retard:
A safe, simple Schwinn
Burma Shave

Re:Not hard (2, Funny)

aproposofwhat (1019098) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820693)

Grrrrr - cyclist retard!

Seriously, though - cycling is safe if you follow the Highway Code and take sensible precautions, like: not running red lights, looking behind you before passing parked cars, remembering that people in cars aren't that bothered about your safety, etc., etc.

As a car driver, I can't see that it's my responsibility to anticipate that a cyclist will pull out to pass a parked car without looking to see if I'm approaching at 18 mph faster than him - it's your life, and your safety.

Oh, and if you kick my car, I'll kick you :P

Re:Not hard (3, Insightful)

smitty_one_each (243267) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820775)

The point was that if people are too challenged by the responsibility of getting behind the wheel, then we should keep ratcheting down their transportation options until we find a level where they can safely operate.
If a bicycle proves too great a burden, then let a man walk.
And if he can't walk without being a menace, let him sit in the corner.
I'm speaking in hyperbole, but the whole dependent mentality of no-one being accountable for crappy behavior is one of the more destructive threads in society.

Re:Not hard (3, Insightful)

aproposofwhat (1019098) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820837)

I totally agree - everyone should be responsible for their own actions.

Personally, I practice 'defensive driving', but that should not be interpreted as 'meek' - in a lot of situations, being assertive actually prevents other road users from entering a potentially dangerous situation.

I do still wish that cyclists were taught to ride as I was in the '70s - the roads would be much safer for all.

Re:Not hard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23820909)

Are you from the UK perchance? I have recently completed my CBT as the first stage of learning how to ride a motorcycle. The training may be basic but I learned a hell of a lot about negotating traffic safely on two wheels. I have to agree with you, a CBT for cyclists would be a worthy cause (particularly in Cambridge)

Re:Not hard (1)

aproposofwhat (1019098) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821081)

Yes, and I have cycled in Cambridge - admittedly it was in the 80's, but a CBT is, I think, essential.

I gather they still do the Cycling Proficiency tests, but see no evidence of their effectiveness when I'm out and about - the attitude of most cyclists seems to be "I'll ride wherever I want - it's your job to avoid me".

Motorcyclists, on the other hand, get a free ride from me (pulling to the left to allow overtaking in tight spots, early signals, plenty of gap, etc.), as I have been a biker in my youth - now I'm old and prefer 4 wheels :o)

Re:Not hard (1)

JasterBobaMereel (1102861) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821025)

Can you please apologise to all the dead or injured cyclists who followed the highway code and were run over by people in cars

Yes there are Cyclists who are reckless, just as there are car drivers who are thoughtless, but if a bike hits a car guess who suffers most ....

No stickers in the UK (5, Funny)

Psiren (6145) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820669)

Here in the UK you rarely see bumper stickers, yet road rage is not exactly rare. So I don't really see the correlation. Having said that, whenever I see the Jesus fish on the back of a car, I do want to run it off the road on general principle. But maybe that's just me.

Re:No stickers in the UK (5, Funny)

aproposofwhat (1019098) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820727)

It's not the fish, it's the driving style.

They pull out in front of you, drive at <speed limit> - 5 mph, and wonder why you're driving up their sanctimonious arse honking and flashing!

Bastards, the lot of them.

And they always double park on a Sunday when they get their weekly dose of self-flagellation.

Did Jesus say 'Pick up thy bed and drive'? I think not :P

Re:No stickers in the UK (1)

Trogre (513942) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820731)

Why's that? Got something against loving thy neighbour?

Re:No stickers in the UK (4, Funny)

YeeHaW_Jelte (451855) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820783)

It doesn't say love thy neighbour to me, it's says I'm better than you, you stinking infidel.

Re:No stickers in the UK (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23820981)

it also says i believe in an invisible friend in the sky that grants me wishes...

Re:No stickers in the UK (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821073)

No no... the way I interpreted it and was told... you're invisible friend will do whatever they feel like. This is because they think it's better for you than your wish and it will happen in "mysterious ways" that you cannot predict. (AKA: Something good will eventually happen if you do this, the odds are good my friend.)

Re:No stickers in the UK (2, Funny)

asackett (161377) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820833)

I've got something against my judgmental neighbors insisting that I love them. They're already forgiven, so whether I love them or not is immaterial.

So sez this here heathen.

Re:No stickers in the UK (1)

kanweg (771128) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821015)

I'd love to love her, but her religion doesn't let her.

Bert

Re:No stickers in the UK (1)

Corporate Troll (537873) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820745)

In my region of Europe, there are not many bumpers stickers and at the few occasions I saw one, it was on a large truck and the bumper sticker clearly indicated that the driver was from the US. (There is a US Military base within 300km).

EU people generally don't seem to put stickers on their car. I damn well don't have any, and won't put any up. I did notice quite a lot Jesus-Fish stickers in the Bavaria region (Germany) last time I was there. Nowhere else I went though.

Having said that, whenever I see the Jesus fish on the back of a car, I do want to run it off the road on general principle. But maybe that's just me.

Nah... ;-)

Re:No stickers in the UK (1)

RustinHWright (1304191) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820765)

No, it's not just you.

Re:No stickers in the UK (-1, Troll)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820821)

Is the Jesus fish a bumper sticker?

PS how's the whole being a bigot thing working out for you?

Re:No stickers in the UK (2, Insightful)

Schadrach (1042952) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820963)

Depepnding on your particular fish (I have seen them in bumper stickers before) maybe, but they most certainly count as "personalized items on or in people's vehicles" such as "seat covers, bumper stickers, special paint jobs, stereos, or plastic dashboard toys"

Re:No stickers in the UK (2, Informative)

Idimmu Xul (204345) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820871)

Apparently 'not exactly rare' is an understatement. According to the beeb [bbc.co.uk] almost 90% of UK drivers have reported incidents of road rage (I don't drive and rarely travel by car so have no idea what the mean streets of Britain are really like). I'm not sure what that really covers though, being run off the road? Sworn at? And is that ever? Across the entire span of someone's life? Is road rage in the UK really *that* bad?

--
Free Playstation 3, XBox 360 and Nintendo Wii [free-toys.co.uk]

Re:No stickers in the UK (0)

VoidCrow (836595) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820969)

I don't think it *is* that bad. The worst frequent offense is tailgating, which I deal with by slowly reducing my speed until people get tired of tailgating a sloth, and overtake. At which point I accelerate, overtake *them*, and put some reasonable distance between our cars. I occasionally have to rinse and repeat, but the majority of people get the hint. The overall standard of driving in the UK is quite high, and I'm always rather impressed by the alacrity with which most people stop and semi-park to allow emergency vehicles past. The average brit really doesn't suck that much :-) (Okay, London's a special case)

Re:No stickers in the UK (5, Informative)

Corporate Troll (537873) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821071)

don't think it *is* that bad. The worst frequent offense is tailgating, which I deal with by slowly reducing my speed until people get tired of tailgating a sloth, and overtake. At which point I accelerate, overtake *them*, and put some reasonable distance between our cars. I occasionally have to rinse and repeat, but the majority of people get the hint.

You do realise that what you're doing is qualified as "road rage", don't you? At least a light form. You're trying to teach them a lesson, by annoying them even more.

Re:No stickers in the UK (1)

Corporate Troll (537873) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821011)

Apparently 'not exactly rare' is an understatement

He's British, what did you expect?

Apart from that, when I read "not exactly rare" it means "frequent" to me. 90% qualifies as "frequent". It's a common literary technique, you know.

Re:No stickers in the UK (1)

jamesh (87723) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821099)

The only incident of road rage I've ever encountered in my ummm... 15 years of driving was once when I was braking fairly quickly at a red light and someone cut in front of me forcing me to brake even harder. I shook my head in disbelief and the guy obviously got a bit pissed about it. He took off really really slowly, drove that way for about 500 metres looking in the rear view mirror the whole time, then floored it. I guess he was waiting for me to try and overtake but I didn't play. I'm not sure that even counts as road rage.

I've been beeped at a few times when i've done something stupid (hey... it happens to the best of us :). If you count that sort of stuff then it's not surprising the figure is 90% but as you say, who knows what they are counting...

Re:No stickers in the UK (1)

JasterBobaMereel (1102861) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821091)

It's like the Baby on board stickers... ... it seems to say nothing except "I am better than you"

Nice (0, Redundant)

RawGutts (879317) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820683)

Wow this is a shocker that a university even did a study like this.

Very interesting article, thank ya.

Why is this "a shocker"? (1)

RustinHWright (1304191) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820799)

What about that surprises you? I, for one, am delighted.

this is bizzare (1)

born 2 rule (1307945) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820691)

so people please dont give your house a private paint job or put any personal decorative item on your window because probably that will lead to another research by ahem trying to link them with house rage

No brains? (1)

getuid() (1305889) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820703)

What about linking road rage to the proximity of one's i.q. to that of a strawberry? Now the question would be: where's the link between stupidity and car stickers. Maybe there's no stupidity involved in putting one sticker on your car. But what about putting 10 stickers on your vehicle?... I dunno. Oppinions on this one?

Re:No brains? (3, Funny)

Dog-Cow (21281) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821009)

Are you insinuating that strawberries have low IQs? Perhaps they are simply too intelligent to deal with lower life-forms such as ours?

Re:No brains? (1)

VoidCrow (836595) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821029)

The link was between territoriality (and presumably and implicitly, aggression). It's a typical slashdot knee-jerk nitwit response to conflate behaviour X and IQ. Actions may be moderated by intelligence, but the motivations that give rise to them are often innate and impossible to change. Some people become violent when they drink red wine or eat cheese. Is that stupidity, or does the stupidity lie in missing the essentially mechanistic nature of mood and motivation? And then mouthing off about it?

Seen (5, Insightful)

meta slash (633499) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820707)

Don't drive as if you own the road ... Drive as if you own the car.

Not Surprising... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23820723)

Since all creatures notoriously marking "their territory" (i.e taggers, dogs, bumper-sticker-appliers) seem to be exeedingly aggressive. And not too, um, witty...

"If you continue to post this comment, all moderations done to this discussion will be undone! Are you sure you want to post?"

WHERE IS THE YES BUTTON?

Wow another study that reveals (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23820729)

that anything that differentiates cars (small, personalised, convenient, fast) from public transport (large, impersonal, inconvenient, slow) has an unquantifiable bad effect.

man'kind's' aggression linked to corepirate nazi.. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23820735)

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/29/world/29amnesty.html?hp
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/02/nasa.global.warming.ap/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/weather/06/05/severe.weather.ap/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/weather/06/02/honore.preparedness/index.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/opinion/01dowd.html?em&ex=1212638400&en=744b7cebc86723e5&ei=5087%0A
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/05/senate.iraq/index.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/17/washington/17contractor.html?hp

is it time to get real yet? A LOT of energy is being squandered in attempts to keep US in the dark. in the end (give or take a few 1000 years), the creators will prevail (world without end, etc...), as it has always been. the process of gaining yOUR release from the current hostage situation may not be what you might think it is. butt of course, most of US don't know, or care what a precarious/fatal situation we're in. for example; the insidious attempts by the felonious corepirate nazi execrable to block the suns' light, interfering with a requirement (sunlight) for us to stay healthy/alive. it's likely not good for yOUR health/memories 'else they'd be bragging about it? we're intending for the whoreabully deceptive (they'll do ANYTHING for a bit more monIE/power) felons to give up/fail even further, in attempting to control the 'weather', as well as a # of other things/events.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=weather+manipulation&btnG=Search
http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=video+cloud+spraying

dictator style micro management has never worked (for very long). it's an illness. tie that with life0cidal aggression & softwar gangster style bullying, & what do we have? a greed/fear/ego based recipe for disaster. meanwhile, you can help to stop the bleeding (loss of life & limb);

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/28/vermont.banning.bush.ap/index.html

the bleeding must be stopped before any healing can begin. jailing a couple of corepirate nazi hired goons would send a clear message to the rest of the world from US. any truthful look at the 'scorecard' would reveal that we are a society in decline/deep doo-doo, despite all of the scriptdead pr ?firm? generated drum beating & flag waving propaganda that we are constantly bombarded with. is it time to get real yet? please consider carefully ALL of yOUR other 'options'. the creators will prevail. as it has always been.

corepirate nazi execrable costs outweigh benefits
(Score:-)mynuts won, the king is a fink)
by ourselves on everyday 24/7

as there are no benefits, just more&more death/debt & disruption. fortunately there's an 'army' of light bringers, coming yOUR way. the little ones/innocents must/will be protected. after the big flash, ALL of yOUR imaginary 'borders' may blur a bit? for each of the creators' innocents harmed in any way, there is a debt that must/will be repaid by you/us, as the perpetrators/minions of unprecedented evile, will not be available. 'vote' with (what's left in) yOUR wallet, & by your behaviors. help bring an end to unprecedented evile's manifestation through yOUR owned felonious corepirate nazi glowbull warmongering execrable. some of US should consider ourselves somewhat fortunate to be among those scheduled to survive after the big flash/implementation of the creators' wwwildly popular planet/population rescue initiative/mandate. it's right in the manual, 'world without end', etc.... as we all ?know?, change is inevitable, & denying/ignoring gravity, logic, morality, etc..., is only possible, on a temporary basis. concern about the course of events that will occur should the life0cidal execrable fail to be intervened upon is in order. 'do not be dismayed' (also from the manual). however, it's ok/recommended, to not attempt to live under/accept, fauxking nazi felon greed/fear/ego based pr ?firm? scriptdead mindphuking hypenosys.

consult with/trust in yOUR creators. providing more than enough of everything for everyone (without any distracting/spiritdead personal gain motives), whilst badtolling unprecedented evile, using an unlimited supply of newclear power, since/until forever. see you there?

"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

meanwhile, the life0cidal philistines continue on their path of death, debt, & disruption for most of US. gov. bush denies health care for the little ones;

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/03/bush.veto/index.html

whilst demanding/extorting billions to paint more targets on the bigger kids;

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/12/bush.war.funding/index.html

& pretending that it isn't happening here;

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3086937.ece
all is not lost/forgotten/forgiven

(yOUR elected) president al gore (deciding not to wait for the much anticipated 'lonesome al answers yOUR questions' interview here on /.) continues to attempt to shed some light on yOUR foibles. talk about reverse polarity;

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article3046116.ece

We'll see what later studies show. (1)

RustinHWright (1304191) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820739)

I have no idea how much I trust this data but I do know that it will probably get replicated or, at the least, somebody will do a variation on the idea. And once we have multiple studies to judge by, then we'll start knowing what the correlations are. Personally, I would be fascinated to see a correlation between degree of deviation from the speed of surrounding traffic and visible modifications to the car, because that would prevent reporting error.

One way or another, this should start a very productive round of FINALLY having more useful scientific data about territoriality and driving.

Of course the obvious other thing to do, which I'm willing to bet would be quite useful if done right, would be to interview highway cops on their experiences about what kinds of cars correlate with what behaviors. We know well that they profile, but I'll betcha dollars to donuts that some of their generalizations are non-obvious and true. Ideally, this would then be supplemented with reviewing footage from squadcar cameras but that might not be so easy to arrange.

Re:We'll see what later studies show. (4, Interesting)

nyctopterus (717502) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820859)

I'm not a psychologist, but I don't think I'd let a study done with that methodology through peer review. It's way too susceptible to confirmation bias on the part of the police. Traffic cameras would be much better.

Other people's stickers? (4, Funny)

snarfies (115214) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820781)

I walk past a car at my work's parking lot that has Bush stickers all over it. I have fantasies about keying the holy living shit out of that car as I pass it. I don't DO it - I don't really know how to key a car, never having done it before, and I can control my impulses.

Not everyone can control their impulses.

Re:Other people's stickers? (0, Troll)

Corporate Troll (537873) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820827)

Well, see that's the difference between a democrat and a republican: a democrat only thinks of it, a republican actually does it....

;-)/p>

Re:Other people's stickers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23820867)

Well, see that's the difference between a democrat and a republican: a democrat only thinks of it, a republican actually does it....

Actually, the available evidence [snopes.com] says otherwise.

Re:Other people's stickers? (1)

Corporate Troll (537873) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820971)

Fair, but I was actually just trying to be funny. There are assholes in both camps.

Re:Other people's stickers? (1)

Mesa MIke (1193721) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821021)

Yep. More often than not, it seems it's the tolerant, freedom loving liberal activists that vandalize and destroy other people's property.

Bad Driver Advertising (0, Troll)

vodevil (856500) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820797)

I, for one, love the fact that a lot of the really bad drivers identify themselves with one particular bumper sticker - Bush/Cheney. To me, that's advertising "stay away from me, i'm a crappy driver."

I believe it (0, Flamebait)

slimjim8094 (941042) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820809)

but I think they have it backwards. I think dumbasses are likely to drive stupidly and be stupid enough to spend money to load up their car with that crap.

Correlation != Causation - but you already knew that. I know you did, did you, 'researchers'?

Re:I believe it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23820979)

No, I'm sure they were absolutely convinced that the stickers were actually causing road rage. Must be the glue or something.

Good thing you were here to catch their mistake and alert us all to their flawed reasoning.

Re:I believe it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23821019)

Especially since the causation part of it was offered in a tentative tone.

Re:I believe it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23821017)

I even have two corolaries to the correlation is not always causation.

Corolary 1: When there is a correlation between X and Y and I like the idea of there being a causation(usually because I don't like people that do X and Y is bad behavior), then it is clear that there is causation

Corolary 2: When there is correlation between X and Y and I don't like the idea of there being a causation (usually because Y is bad behavior and I like X), then there is no correlation.

I'll add a third corollary
Corolary 3: Once you exclude all studies that go against your opinion, the only ones that remain are the one that confirm what you always knew.

Very helpful (5, Funny)

Dan East (318230) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820817)

This is very helpful information. Now I'll know which vehicles my wife should keep the gun trained on.

Makes me wish I had a bumper (4, Funny)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820825)

as a cyclist I lack opportunities for such displays of wit(I guess I could use my backpack), but if I did, it would have to read:

"The size of ones genitals is inversely proportional to the size of ones vehicle"

The best part is that SUV drivers would run out of fuel before they could even catch up!

Re:Makes me wish I had a bumper (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23820931)

What would you do when a maniac truck driver [imdb.com] sees your sticker?

Re:Makes me wish I had a bumper (1)

Filmcell-Keyrings (973083) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821057)

If that is true, then it must be quite uncomfortable to ride a bike.

George Bush Stickers..... (3, Interesting)

lena_10326 (1100441) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820839)

...are the cause. People see "Vote George Bush 2004" and see red.

Now, that's why I don't put political bumper stickers on my car. Obama, Hillary, or McCain, I don't care. I don't need some nut-job running me down because he doesn't like my choice of candidate.

(Plus, it'll spoil the purdy paint.)

Re:George Bush Stickers..... (1)

IBBoard (1128019) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820983)

I've only been to America once, but I'm more worried about the kind of person who had the sticker I saw in Denver, Colorado: "Liberalism is a mental illness". Yes, the people who don't like your choice can be bad, but I'm sure that person must have been worse!

As a few other people have said, though, congratulations to the researchers for confusing correlation with causation (or at least not describing it well in the quote).

Correlation != Causation (0, Redundant)

Revenger75 (1246176) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820841)

Road Rage is linked to Bumper Stickers
Sounds shockingly similar to how the consumption of ice cream is linked to a positive derivative in crime rate.

Kudos for the "correlationisnotcausation" tag.

Re:Correlation != Causation (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23821035)

Congratulations on being the first one to deliver this most enlightening revelation.
I'm sure that until you unburdened yourself of this amazing insight we were all doomed to be fooled into believing a bumper sticker automatically turned a mild mannered driver into a raving lunatic.

We all know that correlation is not causation, but that doesn't stop it being interesting - unlike your comment.

By the way - congratulations on having just attended your first high school science class.

Re:Correlation != Causation (2, Funny)

Mesa MIke (1193721) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821055)

I dunno about that, but I do know that nearly 100% of hardened drug-crazed criminals started out by drinking milk at a young age.

 

Statistics (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23820869)

I wonder how they did the statistics?

If they were naively looking for 95% confidence despite testing several variables, they are more likely to have a fluke result.

i always wonder about people (4, Interesting)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820887)

who have a psychotic need to display their politics so aggressively

i'm talking about the people with 4-5 bumper stickers, all stridently ideological

of course you are entitled to be proud of your beliefs, but if you are radioactively evangelical about them, then i am 100% certain that your mind is completely closed and your brain dead hack partisanship is total

on the other hand, you can be assured no one will want to borrow or steal your car... although these bumper sticker hordes are usually stuck on a 15 year old rust eaten subcompact

Re:i always wonder about people (1)

ScottCooperDotNet (929575) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821023)

And seem to be the same ones that are oblivious to the situation on the highway they're on; Usually they manage to slow down everyone else's ride by getting in the left lane and doing 50mph.

For an added bonus, the state legislature members get their own plates, and I've never seen one drive well either.

Ixthus + Volvo badge (4, Funny)

threaded (89367) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820915)

Ixthus fish and a Volvo badge: that combination is my number one worry when I'm out on a bike.

yeah, but did they study ... (4, Insightful)

spottedkangaroo (451692) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820917)

Did they study the effects of going 45 in a 55?

Did they study the effects of drifting along and not passing while in the passing lane on a limited access highway (a 2 point ticket, called disrupting the flow of traffic, in most states)?

I mean, really, if you did these things on foot you'd get, "Um, excuse me" and "right behindja," and "sorry there, ah, commin through."

The real source of road rage is not being able to say, "excuse me." It frustrates humans because we need to be able to express ourselves. We're pack animals and the cars isolate us.

My hunch is that inconsiderate behavior is a better predictor than bumper stickers. I haven't done a study though. Could be wrong. (Ignore my sig it's a joke.)

Re:yeah, but did they study ... (4, Interesting)

mh1997 (1065630) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821079)

The real source of road rage is not being able to say, "excuse me." It frustrates humans because we need to be able to express ourselves.
Several years ago, I read of a study that looked into this and there conclusion was the same as yours.

You can sort of test this yourself while walking. While walking down the street, step in front of another pedestrian (cut them off) and then keep walking, you'll hear negative comments. Do the same thing, but then apologize and the person you cut off will act like it was their fault.

Re:yeah, but did they study ... (1)

value_added (719364) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821085)

Did they study the effects of going 45 in a 55?

From my experience, not driving 75 in a 65 zone elicits plenty of rage.

There was an incident recently in or near LA where one driver got so upset he repeatedly rammed the car that he believed was causing him grief. Both cars were banged up so badly that you'd think it was from a scene in movie. IIRC, he was an educated professional (the other driver was woman), but that didn't prevent him from being charged with multiple felonies.

My own preference, and possibly the most sensible approach for dealing with excitable drivers, is simply to get out of their way. The exception, at least for me, is when I'm driving down my own street or somewhere similar where the speed limit is 25 and there's lots of kids and pedestrians. Ironically, it's only the soccer moms and teenagers that seem to have a problem with that.

As expected... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23820929)

People who dare to provoke using bumper stickers mostly also have a good self-confidence. So I think this result in a study is obvious.

Not on my watch (2, Insightful)

ATestR (1060586) | more than 6 years ago | (#23820991)

exhibiting territorial behavior ... acceptable in personal space

I'm sorry. Where did I miss this? I was raised to believe that rage is unacceptable anywhere... even in private.

Anecdotal evidence (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23821027)

In the late 1980's, during the Administration of George Herbert Walker Bush, I lived in the U.S. State of Indiana, also known as "the Hoosier State." The Vice President of Bush the Elder was J. Danforth "Dan" Quayle, a Hoosier scion of a family with social position and great wealth: the Pulliams, owners of the newspaper The Indianapolis Star. Hoosiers, like the people of the other U.S. States, love their "favorite sons" -- locals who run for the Presidency or Vice Presidency, and especially those who win. In the highly public role of candidate for the office of Vice President and then as occupant of that office, Quayle was controversial, as he would make public statements that were marvels of error, unclear thinking and internal contradiction. The Wikipedia article on Quayle [wikipedia.org] includes some of the better ones.

In those days, I was already fed up with the habit of Quayle and the rest of the Reagan Republican camp of vilifying people whose beliefs ran counter to their own by using the word "Liberal" as an epithet. I felt that Quayle was not qualified for to hold the second-highest or highest offices in in the land. I bought a bumper sticker and pasted it on the back of my car, as close to eye level as the car allowed:

H.E.A.D.: Hoosiers Embarrassed about Dan
I came out of a few hours shopping at a regional mall to find the bumper sticker peeled off my car, folded, accordion-style, and lying a few feet from the car. I was astonished at the attack on my free speech, and wondered at the fury behind it. I calmed down once I concluded that the vandal's action showed that my message had struck home. I replaced the bumper sticker, which stayed on, this time without vandalism.

Makes sense (1)

MtlDty (711230) | more than 6 years ago | (#23821033)

I didnt read the fine article, but I can see how people that spend the time and money to personalise their car tend to protect it more than people (like me) who dont. I think therefore the correlation they drew makes sense, though their reasoning (territorial behaviour) I would disagree with.
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