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All Your Coffee Are Belong To Us

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the pouring-over-it dept.

Security 354

Wolf nipple chips writes "Craig Wright discovered that the Jura F90 Coffee maker, with its honest-to-God Jura Internet Connection Kit, can be taken over by a remote attacker, who can cause the coffee to be weaker or stronger; change the amount of water per cup; or cause the machine to require service (call this one a DDoC). 'Best yet, the software allows a remote attacker to gain access to the Windows XP system it is running on at the level of the user.' An Internet-enabled, remote-controlled coffee-machine and XP backdoor — what more could a hacker ask for?"

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First post? (3, Funny)

boteeka (970303) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835359)

Bullshit, those machines are secure as a mainframe.

Re:First post? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23835651)

Have the RIAA sent it a DMCA takedown notice for sharing files [slashdot.org] yet?

PC LOAD COFFEE

Bah! (5, Funny)

BWJones (18351) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835361)

Bah! Get your coffee [utah.edu] and an old school French press [wikipedia.org] to brew the tastiest coffee. Put your hacking efforts into the roasting, selection and cultivation of your beans and leave the time and resource wasting, lame Windows controlled coffee makers to the junk heap of history.

Re:Bah! (1)

Bonobo_Unknown (925651) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835609)

Oh no, those things are terrible. The coffee always comes out warm, what you need is one of those expresso machines that sit on top of your stove top.

Re:Bah! (1)

NeuroKoan (12458) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835725)

A percolator? Those are great, but I've ruined a few by being absent minded and trying to multitask (in the kitchen, I'm not stupid enough to walk away from a lit stove).

For me, its all about whole beans ground mere seconds before they are put through a decent drip system.

Re:Bah! (2, Insightful)

jimicus (737525) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835751)

Oh no, those things are terrible. The coffee always comes out warm, what you need is one of those expresso machines that sit on top of your stove top.
I disagree. The problem with the stove-top devices is that they're a devil to keep clean (absolutely vital for good coffee) and it's fantastically easy to burn the coffee with them.

Re:Bah! (2, Funny)

mr_matticus (928346) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835895)

Fitting an expresso machine [motortopia.com] on your stove top might prove a bit difficult.

An espresso maker, on the other hand, is an option.

Re:Bah! (1)

anakha (88297) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835865)

I wave my private parts in your French press's general direction. Everyone knows the best non-espresso coffee is made with a vacuum pot [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Bah! (4, Funny)

Joebert (946227) | more than 6 years ago | (#23836033)

I wave my private parts in your French press's general direction.

You know that feeling you get when you know you should tell someone they're about to do something really painfull, but you don't want to say anything because you haven't had a good laugh all week ?

Re:Bah! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23835955)

Keep up with time mate, it's called a Freedom Press

Clearly your going to need toast with that (1)

infonography (566403) | more than 6 years ago | (#23836081)

Can I suggest a Talkie Toaster with Artificial Intelligence it can program the coffee maker just what you need it to be. It knows. It always knows and will go on endlessly about it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RZslRQvv5zM [youtube.com]

Re:Bah! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23836085)

Fucking Karma Whore, WHORING your fucking Web site like Roland.

You think you look PRETTY in that picture? Looking to PICK UP DATES? Well if you're looking for geeky gay boys that look 16, you're WHORING yourself in the right place.

But then as a Teaching Assist, I'll bet you sell good grades for blowjobs from freshman boys, anyway.

You are slime.

Re:Bah! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23836097)

I didn't know what a "French Press" was...
In France we call that a "Turkish Coffee Machine" !

Java? (5, Funny)

Arakageeta (671142) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835367)

I wonder how well it runs Java...

Re:Java? (2, Insightful)

BWJones (18351) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835393)

Yeah, well.... I don't know whether to laugh or to roll my eyes. Your post is exquisitely lame, yet somehow.... amusing. :-)

Re:Java? (1)

Aeternitas827 (1256210) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835441)

My concern is that I might somehow end up with decaf, rather than my normal java.

Your post was infinitely more amusing, I feel ashamed that I neglected my browser...

Re:Java? (4, Funny)

ozmanjusri (601766) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835597)

Maybe if it was running WinCE.

Re:Java? (5, Funny)

lanswitch (705539) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835681)

I'm only interested if it can do Cocoa as well.

Re:Java? (1)

kramulous (977841) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835713)

// Possibly a more efficient way of doing this ... cycle count?
coffee.add(sugar)
coffee.add(milk)
.
.
.
.
OutOfMemoryException

Re:Java? (3, Funny)

NeilTheStupidHead (963719) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835939)

// Possibly a more efficient way of doing this ... cycle count? coffee.add(sugar) coffee.add(milk)
Yes it's: coffee.add()

Re:Java? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23835719)

Not too bad if the JavaBeans are well ground.

Re:Java? (2, Funny)

GroeFaZ (850443) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835773)

This adds another dimension of meaning to NetBeans.

Sex? (5, Funny)

pembo13 (770295) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835369)

Sorry, that's the first thing that came to mind on the question of what more could a hacker want.

Re:Sex? (5, Funny)

jd (1658) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835463)

I assume the question is limited to things within the realms of reality, rather than science-fiction (the only known environment where geeks get laid). Of course, a totally evil hacker might upload a suitable hot coffee mod.

Re:Sex? (1)

felipekk (1007591) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835561)

An Internet-enabled, remote-controlled coffee-machine and XP backdoor â" what more could a hacker ask for?
Hookers! In fact, forget the coffee maker...

Tea (5, Funny)

ozbird (127571) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835703)

Whatever you do, don't ask it for a cup of tea while it's connected to the Internet. "Share and enjoy." [russellbeattie.com]

Re:Sex? (1)

teh kurisu (701097) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835813)

Webcam?

The first thing that came to my mind was that it shares a name with the island [wikipedia.org] where 1984 was (partly) written...

Re:Sex? (1)

Spaham (634471) | more than 6 years ago | (#23836021)

real hackers don't do sex

Setting the scene (5, Funny)

BWJones (18351) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835383)

I mean come on now... what good can an Internet connected coffee maker really do? No security conscious office will ever want a Windows enabled appliance around. Just imagine the scene:

Special Agent Wilkins: How the Hell did they get in?

Special Agent Thompson: Sir..... I... uh, think they got in through the coffee maker.

Special Agent Wilkins: The What?

Special Agent Thompson: Sir, the coffee maker that we got you for your birthday... the one that you wanted to be able to brew up a cup o joe from your office?

Special Agent Wilkins: Oh fsck me....

Re:Setting the scene (4, Informative)

jd (1658) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835485)

This [wikipedia.org] is what happens when coffee pots go on the Internet, albeit in a different way. A similar effect was probably intended, though.

thanks! (1)

Quadraginta (902985) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835755)

Cool link. I am reminded of those halcyon hacker days of yore, when everyone was smarter and +5 Funny, and winter exited March the second on the dot. I recall my college housemates trying to hack our PBX phone system so that you could call the washer and dryer and find out if your clothes were done, instead of having to walk down 3 flights to look. (It couldn't be done using a personal computer because no one owned such an expensive toy.)

Re:Setting the scene (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23835653)

What can it do?!!

If it were a fridge and had a flat-screen, we could all stand around and clap!

Aww man (3, Funny)

T3Tech (1306739) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835385)

Now I'm seriously concerned about a coffee trojan vulnerability.

I would hate to find out that my coffee had been maliciously replaced with decaf.

Fire The Security Admin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23835389)

For leaving the IP-Enabled CoffeeMachine naked on a publicly accessible address and letting *jimbob nogood-hacker* do as he pleases.

Or maybe he just hadn't had his first coffee that day when it was setup.

hmmm (1)

mapleneckblues (1145545) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835397)

Maybe I could hack my boss' coffee maker and weaken his daily dose.

Re:hmmm (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23835451)

Yeahhhhhh, i'm gonna have to go ahead & ... disagree with you there, yeahhh. I'm not sure hacking Lumberg's coffee maker is going to have any affect on him, yeahhh, you see, Lumberg doesn't sleep as he is up all night continually drinking from his perpetually-full mug, even as he bangs your girlfriend.

btw, I'm gonna have to ask you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too... :-P

Re:hmmm (2, Funny)

mapleneckblues (1145545) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835591)

can i have my stapler back please ?

Re:hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23835675)

(at work, must post as AC) yeahhh, mapleneckblues, I will go ahead & give you your stapler, and it looks like I will even give you the last laugh: as i was goofing around, spending too much time hanging around this here forum & making comments about lumberg & your girlfriend, an unpleasant situation arose that might have been prevented, had i been paying closer attention. looks like it's gonna be a lonnng night.... but it was worth the laughs.

cheers!

Re:hmmm (1)

Pvt_Ryan (1102363) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835487)

Or maybe give him a caffine overdose?

Re:hmmm (1)

mapleneckblues (1145545) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835505)

what and make him expect me to have the same amount of energy as him? Nothxbye

Weaken them (1)

SheepLauncher (1025544) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835403)

Quick we will weaken their spirits with Weak Coffee then they will let their guard down! NO one can survive without caffeine!

Re:Weaken them (5, Funny)

jamesh (87723) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835477)

NO one can survive without caffeine!

I can. I can stop caffeine any time I want to.

Re:Weaken them (1)

mapleneckblues (1145545) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835603)

NO one can survive without caffeine!
I can. I can stop caffeine any time I want to.
suicidal tendencies ?

Re:Weaken them (4, Funny)

algerath (955721) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835799)

You know the first step in getting help is admitting that you have a problem.

Re:Weaken them (1)

KaeseEs (1228292) | more than 6 years ago | (#23836059)

NO one can survive without caffeine!
I can. I can stop caffeine any time I want to.
I would use the mod points I just got, but apparently there is no '-1: Lies!'

Re:Weaken them (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23835931)

Gee, you're a little tense... did someone hack your coffee maker?

What more could a hacker want? (4, Funny)

katterjohn (726348) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835425)

How about the coffee?

Re:What more could a hacker want? (4, Funny)

jd (1658) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835497)

Hmmmmm. I wonder what would happen if someone totally evil patched the code so you had to win at minesweeper to get the coffee?

mod parent up (0, Redundant)

spazdor (902907) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835617)

The most insightful answer here. You may admin the machine remotely all you like but without physical access, the sweet sweet coffee is beyond reach.

Re:mod parent up (1)

JustOK (667959) | more than 6 years ago | (#23836093)

quantum entanglement...

wow (1)

ILuvRamen (1026668) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835431)

and I thought the only security hole in coffee was drugging it. Although technically, you could knock out the entire IT department with that one and probably do less with this digital method. Anyway, if a company approves an internet capable coffee machine in the budget, they deserve to get hacked.

EVERYBODY PANIC! (4, Funny)

rossz (67331) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835435)

Screw the company web server. Screw the sql database server. They've hacked the coffee machine! AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Re:EVERYBODY PANIC! (1)

Aeternitas827 (1256210) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835465)

It's really the easiest way to knock out IT operations. That, and knock out the vending machine with the Cheetos (do they have those hooked up to the internet yet?), and progress comes to a halt.

HTCPCP (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23835453)

So, does this device conform to the HTCPCP (Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol) [http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2324.html] ?

Re:HTCPCP (4, Funny)

Pikoro (844299) | more than 6 years ago | (#23836043)

"Coffee pots heat water using electronic mechanisms, so there is no fire. Thus, no firewalls are necessary, and firewall control policy is irrelevant."

That is the essence of the problem.

Not a constantly-connected device (5, Informative)

aaronbeekay (1080685) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835467)

As far as I can tell, the coffeemaker *doesn't* run Windows-- the exploit is in the "connection kit", which is software that runs on a PC, which plugs into the coffeemaker, which lets coffee-people fix your coffeemaker from afar.

So this wouldn't have much in the way of applicability unless you knew someone with this particular $2000 coffeemaker, which was already experiencing problems, who had purchased the $100+ coffeemaker diagnostic kit and had the coffeemaker plugged in, through the diagnostic kit, to their PC at the time.

Seems like there are better ways to get into Windows.

Re:Not a constantly-connected device (3, Informative)

Al_Lapalme (698542) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835527)

I'd mod you up if I had the points - I was just about to post the same thing. I took me a few re-reads to understand what the message actually said.

The author seems to go through alot of trouble to refer to everything as 'it' (ie - the coffee maker and the connectivity kit).

AFAIK - the coffee machine itself doesn't run windows, and other than changing the settings on it to whatever you want, you couldn't really do anything else useful with the coffee machine itself.

You could of course gain access to the Windows XP computer that the coffee machine is plugged into, if you're lucky enough to know an owner, his IP and that he has the software running!

A few things that aren't mentioned and I'm too lazy to look up - is whether the connectivity kit runs at startup (in the background as an app or service) or not; and if the backdoor to XP depends on the coffee maker being connected or not.

Re:Not a constantly-connected device (1)

adamchou (993073) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835641)

You're such a party pooper... we were having just a fine and dandy coffee party

Re:Not a constantly-connected device (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23835659)

I wouldn't mod you up since you took this seriously. What is like to be you? Do you lie awake at night trying to figure out why the chicken crossed the road?

There once was a coffemaker from Nantucket,
Whats dick was so long it could suck it
It said with a grin
As it wiped off its chin,
"If my ear were a c#%+ I would f@#* it!

No wait, coffeemachines don't have penises. Let me compute this. Computer. This is a Class-A compulsory directive. Compute, to the last digit, the value of pi.

Re:Not a constantly-connected device (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23835685)

use your imagination- An industrial spy could arrange to send one as a "gift", a'la the original "Trojan Horse" concept.

Re:Not a constantly-connected device (1)

knutkracker (1089397) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835897)

which lets coffee-people fix your coffeemaker from afar.
Snobbery reaches new heights. Not only can you spend $2000 on a coffee machine, but now you can pay extra to avoid having their grubby proletariat workmen sully your kitchen area when it needs fixing. Mind you, considering the 'coffee' [wikipedia.org] that some people are drinking, this may be considered a victory for workers rights.

Who are the 'Coffee-people' anyway? Sounds like some lost tribe from Peru.

At least it was a Coffee Maker... (5, Insightful)

patio11 (857072) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835479)

... and not, oh, an integrated diabetes management system, pill dispenser, etc...

Since it was a Coffee Maker... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23836089)

... and not, oh, an integrated diabetes management system, pill dispenser, etc...
Don't you mean an integrated drug management system or, rather, a caffeine dispenser...


Improper operation of this can have significant impact on your day's performance.

classic example of why... (5, Insightful)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835483)

... not everything needs an internet connection

As Pete Martell would say... (1)

HouseOfMisterE (659953) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835495)

"Fellas, don't drink that coffee! You'd never guess. There was a fish... in the percolator!"

That's why they call it a firewall. (4, Funny)

Chris Snook (872473) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835499)

If you let the whole world control your heating elements, bad things happen. When was the last time you saw an Itanium box with a public IP?

go47 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23835503)

(Click Here users. BSD/OS Off the play area i7 desired, we other members in paper towels, some of you have comprehensive

What's for breakfast? (5, Funny)

fyoder (857358) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835511)

Once the coffee maker is compromised and turned into a rogue email server, breakfast choices will be coffee and spam, coffee egg and spam; coffee egg bacon and spam; coffee egg bacon sausage and spam; coffee spam bacon sausage and spam; coffee spam egg spam spam bacon and spam; coffee spam sausage spam spam bacon spam tomato and spam....

Vikings: Spam spam spam spam...

Re:What's for breakfast? (1)

flaming error (1041742) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835631)

If they turn our Mr. Coffee into a spam cannon, I'll thwart them by implicating the coffee maker in p2p sharing of Monty Python sketches or something and tip off the BPI/**AA.

Re:What's for breakfast? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23835673)

Obligitory link [youtube.com]

Re:What's for breakfast? (0, Offtopic)

SmlFreshwaterBuffalo (608664) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835933)

I do not like them in a box.
I do not like them with a fox.
I do not like them in a house.
I do not like them with a mouse.
I do not like them here or there.
I do not like them anywhere.
I do not like green eggs and spam.
I do not like them, Sam-I-am.

The Cutting-edge in Industrial Sabotage (1)

not_surt (1293182) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835547)

How well is the opposition's dev team going to perform with half strength coffee?

Re:The Cutting-edge in Industrial Sabotage (1)

compro01 (777531) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835693)

Possibly better. Some of the most interesting bugs I've seen were created under the influence of far too much caffeine.

Don't people learn (5, Funny)

Xarin (320264) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835559)

Don't people ever learn. If you don't install a firewall, anti-virus protection, and anti-spyware software on your coffee maker, you deserve to be hacked. My coffee maker runs Linux and has never been hacked.

wait a minute... (2, Funny)

Quadraginta (902985) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835797)

Doesn't Linus run on coffee while hacking? I'm confused. Which came first, the kernel or the caffeine?

Re:Don't people learn (1)

algerath (955721) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835833)

To heck with windows and linux. The rumor is that Icoffee will be released soon.

Not just an attack on the coffee machine (2, Interesting)

sinistre (59027) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835573)

It would be an attack on the entire company. Imagine the effects of decreased caffeine consumption. Productivity could be going way down. In fact I'd consider the attack a declaration of war.

Where's John Foster Dulles when you need him? (2, Funny)

Quadraginta (902985) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835867)

Sure, but lacking caffeine you'll lack the energy to do anything about it. You'll be assimilated without resistance.

So unless a patch is found, you'll need to set up dedicated hosts ready to launch a devastating counter-strike on their coffee machines within the first microsecond of detecting incoming ICDMs (Internet Coffee Datagrams, Malevolent), and trust to an uneasy policy of Mutually Assured Decaffeination to keep the peace.

End of the Internet? (3, Insightful)

carmaa (1006965) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835587)

Distributed Denial of Coffee? Really? This is the attack that will cause the End of the Internet, when caffeine-addicted sysadmins not getting their daily "fix" turns their frustration towards the servers.

i gotta put my 2 cents in. (1)

arbiter1 (1204146) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835629)

a more sadistic way to slow a business to a crawl

Coffee (5, Funny)

dunezone (899268) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835709)

I, for one, welcome our new coffee brewing overlords.

But... (1)

TornCityVenz (1123185) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835715)

Does it blend?

or make a decent cup of tea?

Extremely weak article (1)

ulash (1266140) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835753)

Not only the article does not clarify where the vulnarability is (i.e. in the computer you connect the coffee maker to if it is running a certain version of XP using certain settings), it comes across as extremely superficial without any real information. There was barely any more information in the article as in the quoted short paragraph.

Did you hear the ones about... (5, Funny)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835763)

Did you hear the one about the Microsoft coffee maker?

It makes tea then convinces you that you only ever wanted a tea.

Did you hear the one about the Apple coffee maker?

It does an amazing Mocha Frappucino with whipped cream, caramel sauce and a chocolate flake in the top but doesn't know how to make a plain black coffee.

Did you hear the one about the Linux coffee maker?

v0.1 made a good plain coffee but it took a while doing it, v1.0 makes good plain coffee but there's a patch that allows it to make better tea than the Microsoft coffee maker and v2.0 gives you a cup of plain coffee, a cup of whipped cream, a cup of caramel sauce, a chocolate flake in a wrapper and tells you to make the coffee how you want but for a much lower price than the Apple one.

Did you hear the one about the Vista coffee maker?

Nope, neither did I but then who gives a shit.

Forget Osama (1)

SpaghettiPattern (609814) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835767)

Forget Osama. They overtook the coffee maker. The whole fucking coffee maker!

Inspired by Bluto [imdb.com]

What more could a hacker want? (4, Funny)

CoolGopher (142933) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835777)

An Internet-enabled, remote-controlled coffee-machine and XP backdoor -- what more could a hacker ask for?

Access to the coffee his new bot brews?

Just put a IP address label on your machine... (1)

Kolargol00 (1177651) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835801)

...to simulate network connection! I remember, at one of the labs I worked in as a student, someone had put a IP address label on the coffee machine just like the one on computers. The label read "labcoffee1 192.168.1.123" but the machine had no network connection, just a joke... :)

A culture of helplessness (4, Insightful)

jandersen (462034) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835807)

This is probably going to be simply ignored, as it is just one of my pet peeves; but as it is one of my pet peeves, I will proceed none the less. Consequently, this is my Message To The World:

What's the bloody sense in making a thing like this - let alone owning one? It is not exactly demanding, making you own coffee: put ground coffee beans in your favourite cafetiere/filter/mysterious glass thing with a spirit burner, add water, possibly hot. Wait for the magic to unfold right before your very eyes. Pour and drink. If you want to go all out, you grind your own coffee beans.

Recently I've seen more and more of these pointless gadgets where you insert a little foil capsule into a complicated piece of equipment and out comes a mediocre cup of coffee that has cost probably 10 times as much as a good cup of hand-made coffee; and you will have left a huge, reeking carbon footprint in the process. Plus, after a while you will have convinced yourself that you could never go back to doing it the old way - in other words, you have become dependent on a silly gadget, a little bit more helpless.

I suppose that is exactly where the industry wants us: unable to cook our own food, so we have to rely on ready made crap, unable to perform even the simplest of everyday tasks, because we rely on household machinery. Why do people fall for it? We honestly don't need most of these things unless we suffer from a physical disability; and they don't actually save us any meaningful time - by which I mean time we then spend on doing things that are worth doing rather than sit down to watch tv or play computer games.

Re:A culture of helplessness (2, Insightful)

amdpox (1308283) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835851)

I agree to some extent: certainly, the packet mixes are useless, and an "automatic" coffee machine that just makes the equivelant of instant or poor percolator coffee is useless: but I must say, it does take a good bit of effort to make an espresso cappuccino, and the more you need the coffee, the less proficient at making it you will be. Then again, the instant espresso machines make fairly mediocre coffees too... you can't beat a hand-made one you make yourself, unless you get someone else to make you a greek coffee.

Re:A culture of helplessness (2, Insightful)

GroeFaZ (850443) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835899)

And what do you propose to do about it, if anything? If that's what the people want, then by all means, let them have it; isn't that the whole point of a relatively free market, to be able to decide what to spend money on? As for people becoming helpless imbeciles regarding their own food: where I live, books and TV shows about cooking have seen a massive surge in popularity over the last few years, so the sky may, after all, not yet be falling. At least not everywhere.

Perceived user friendliness (2, Insightful)

jotaeleemeese (303437) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835927)

Not to disagree with you, but to note that a capsule *seems* more user friendly compared with the relatively messiness of doing coffee the cheaper, old fashioned, way.

People become dependent on these machines in the same way they lock themselves in to proprietary software solutions: the coffee capsules are not interchangeable, which allows companies to hike prices for them as they see fit.

Think bubblejet printers and the extortionate prices of ink. Any geek/nerd falling for the same trick when it comes to coffee should hand over his geek card immediately frankly.

And it makes coffee! (1)

Madman (84403) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835831)

Go on, hack it to add non-dairy creamer! Be mean!

what more could a hacker ask for? (2, Insightful)

Mind Socket (180517) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835861)

I dunno, less ads dressed as news on slashdot perhaps?

Check with the Internet Engineering Task Force (5, Interesting)

JakartaDean (834076) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835923)

Well, I hope someone is checking whether this thing is truly RFC 2324 compliant.

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2324 [ietf.org]

BSOD (1)

flakron (1146337) | more than 6 years ago | (#23835947)

I wonder how does Blue Screen Of Death look on that machine? Blue coffee??

Mornings for me... (4, Funny)

ockegheim (808089) | more than 6 years ago | (#23836003)

...involve coffee and a hacking cough, so maybe it would suit me.

Reminds me of the toaster in Red Dwarf.

My coffee machine was designed in the 1950s, and makes brilliant coffee if you put enough love in.

finally a way to defeat those Chinese hackers! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23836013)

All we need to do to defeat those hackers that have been attacking washington is to hack into their coffee makers and slowly reduce the caffeine content of their coffee. Before long they'll be asleep at their desks, completely unable to do any more harm.

call this one a DDoC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23836023)

Actually, it says in the FA "Break it by engineering settings that are not compatible (and making it require a service)", so I think it would just be a DoC unless that first 'D' in the summary means something else...

Coffee Jingle (1)

fi1th (1090847) | more than 6 years ago | (#23836083)

Do you folks like coffee? Real coffee? From the hills of Columbia? The Ducan Hills will wake you! From a thousand deaths! DUCAN HILLS COFFEE!!
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