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Georgia's New State Health Plan Is Google

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the step-away-from-the-computer-screen dept.

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theodp writes "In yet another case of life imitating Dilbert, the State of Georgia has issued a press release touting how helpful Google products will be in getting Georgians to go outdoors. According to the release and a follow-up Yo-State-So-Fat Official Google Blog post, this includes AdWords, Analytics, Maps, Earth, Picasa, Gadgets and a branded YouTube channel for the GO Georgia initiative 'We're thrilled that Google has joined us in the effort to help everyone in the state lead a healthier life,' said Sally Winchester, a manager for Georgia State Parks & Historic Sites. 'At Google, we are committed to helping our employees lead healthy lives,' added Maureen Schumacher, a Google regional sales director. 'We are very excited that Google products will be used as part of this effort to improve the health and well-being of all Georgians.'"

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Misleading Much? (5, Interesting)

conner_bw (120497) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897189)

Looks a lot less like a health plan, a lot more like a powerful promotional partner for Georgia's Parks, Recreations and Historic Sites i.e. tourism?

Or is FOX TV a "health plan" because they run Viagra advertisements?

On second thought it has Google in the title and it's Sunday so it must be a debacle! Unleash the Flash rectangles! The captain goes down with the PageRank!

so what? (5, Insightful)

CaptainNerdCave (982411) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897317)

so what if it's shameless promotion? the important thing is that the georgia administration is going against the status quo and admitting there _is_ a problem. i hope this gives other states (particularly southern states) the courage to go forward with health initiatives. with 1/4 of its adult population considered obese (as of mid-late 2007 http://vaccine-ophobia.blogspot.com/2007/08/georgia-14th-in-ranking-of-adult.html [blogspot.com] ), this will hopefully start opening eyes and turning heads

Re:so what? (4, Funny)

Quasimodem (719423) | more than 6 years ago | (#23898187)

. . . this will hopefully start opening eyes and turning heads
If they require someone else to open their eyes and turn their heads, they must REALLY be sedentary!

Re:so what? (1)

jackspenn (682188) | more than 6 years ago | (#23899775)

How come you say "particularly southern states" I moved to Austin from Philly and let me tell you, those in the North ate worse, went outside less and were obviously much larger. I find your comment insulting. I mean if you ask me Pat's or Geno's Philly cheese steak are going to take you out just as fast as brisket served with a side of TexMex queso and chips. But when you toss in scrapple and hoagies (extra mayo), clearly the City of Brotherly love wins hands down as the phattest city in the country. Umm soft pretzels.

Re:so what? (1)

xaxa (988988) | more than 6 years ago | (#23901449)

How come you say "particularly southern states" I moved to Austin from Philly and let me tell you, those in the North ate worse, went outside less and were obviously much larger.

http://calorielab.com/news/2005/08/25/obesity-visualized-state-by-state/ [calorielab.com] (There's a map of obesity by state)
It seems north/south is irrelevant, it's how near an ocean you are.

Ocean? (1)

N Monkey (313423) | more than 6 years ago | (#23903241)

http://calorielab.com/news/2005/08/25/obesity-visualized-state-by-state/ [calorielab.com] (There's a map of obesity by state)
It seems north/south is irrelevant, it's how near an ocean you are.
Pardon my ignorance of US geography, but the proximity to the ocean seems irrelevant. To me, it looks like Mississippi river is a bigger influence. Perhaps the consumption of Mud Pies has something to do with it ;-)

Re:Misleading Much? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23897467)

Are you saying GA's fat? (2, Funny)

kiehlster (844523) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897215)

I don't know about you but my guess is that Georgia's too busy sitting on their front porches proclaiming that people "git off ma property befo' I shoot yo ___".

Re:Are you saying GA's fat? (3, Funny)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897259)

Is this a variation on 'Naw you kiahds git off ma lawn!"?

Re:Are you saying GA's fat? (2, Insightful)

MrDERP (1004577) | more than 6 years ago | (#23900219)

I am from GA (not originally )and this got me laughing pretty hard! That's how it is in very rural areas[South Carolina is much worse IMO], people are very friendly just really "country" Savannah is kind of half redneck half random people that moved here and country club like art college kids.I wouldn't say in this town there are more fattie's than Pittsburgh, Cleavland, Houston, Buffalo, Illinois, Detroit ([places I lived) or other "blue collar" type cities. When you go out into more rural reads yes, but then what's the point of this? there is nothing their but farms and grass, and cows etc.. Atlanta has the fun city stuff, Savannah has the historic/pretty/SoCo style stuff. What really would you do for the rural areas were people tend IMO to be more overweight. I think the health issue is a money issue, poor people don't eat as well, can't afford fish, fresh fruit and produce. So they get older chicken and fry it or by carbs (cheaper) Carbs IIRC cause a smoker to desire more cigarettes[me?]. So IMO yes people in New England/NYC/LA/SanFran/Rhode Island (other places I lived) for example tend to be more fit but it's largely a financial thing, part an education thing. -Derp downsouf in Savannah GA

Re:Are you saying GA's fat? (1)

zip_000 (951794) | more than 6 years ago | (#23902319)

Also in Savannah, GA - and originally from GA as well (unfortunately), and I agree. People in the cities tend to not be nearly as heavy as people in the more rural areas. Also, I visited the mid-west not too long ago, and I remember walking through the airport amazed at the obesity of the people there. Of course maybe the airport has its own demographic separate from the area.

Re:Are you saying GA's fat? (4, Informative)

Seoulstriker (748895) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897485)

Georgia is in the "Stroke Belt", with high rates of obesity (soul food), diabetes (sweet tea), and heart disease. The citizens of Georgia really need all the help they can get to decrease long-term health costs.

Re:Are you saying GA's fat? (4, Funny)

halivar (535827) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897775)

You will pry my Georgia sweet tea (kept ice cold so it can be super-saturated with sugar) from my cold, dead fin-- *urk* *THUD*

Re:Are you saying GA's fat? (4, Informative)

chillax137 (612431) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897951)

In order to super-saturate the tea, it must first be mixed at a higher temperature (where the equilibrium concentration of sugar is higher). Cooling it down brings the mixture out of equilibrium, but no precipitation occurs, resulting in a kinetically controlled metastable state (super-saturation). Allowing the tea to warm up won't change the sweetness level.

Re:Are you saying GA's fat? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23898483)

Unless of course something we're to disturb to tea sufficiently or a suitable condensation nuclei we're introduced causing the sugar to come out of solution, in which case the only suitable solution is to reheat the tea.


Posting anonymously so I can still mod you up

Re:Are you saying GA's fat? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23902085)

Unless of course something we're to disturb to tea sufficiently or a suitable condensation nuclei we're introduced causing the sugar to come out of solution,

Could a superfluous apostrophe serve as a condensation nucleus? Would a mismatch between the singular article "a" and the plural noun "nuclei" be sufficiently disturbing?

Re:Are you saying GA's fat? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23909719)

no

Re:Are you saying GA's fat? (1)

halivar (535827) | more than 6 years ago | (#23899105)

Wow, I never expected to be taken seriously, but you know... you are supposed to put the sugar in while it's still piping hot. There have been occasions where a particular sweet tea I like to call "Hepzibah Tea" (named after the podunk Augusta satellite town it comes from) leaves the container coated in rock candy when you take it out of the fridge. That is the good stuff you can't get up north.

Re:Are you saying GA's fat? (1)

Kadagan AU (638260) | more than 6 years ago | (#23902857)

There you go trying to teach chemistry to Georgians... haven't you learned?

Re:Are you saying GA's fat? (3, Funny)

Thaelon (250687) | more than 6 years ago | (#23898839)

Actually you can only super saturate water with dissolved solids such as sugar at high temperatures. It's gases that dissolve better at low temperatures.

So you're not only fat, but a dirty, dirty liar!

14th Most Obese in Country (3, Interesting)

Tmack (593755) | more than 6 years ago | (#23898303)

...high rates of obesity (soul food), diabetes (sweet tea), and heart disease....

Having just moved from there, to the Bay Area, Ca....
Yes, Ga is unhealthy. Alot of the blame can also be put on the government of the state, which continues to push for more and wider highways (as if 16 lanes [google.com] isnt enough), continue to allow and support [southernstudies.org] the majority of power plants [georgiapower.com] running on fossil fuels, mainly coal and including 3 of the dirtiest [georgiapower.com] in the US, with two in the top 3 of that list. This, combined with naturally high humidity [answers.com] , ultra high pollen counts and high temperatures makes the air quality suck, putting Atlanta in 4th [aafa.org] for most challenging place to live with asthma and consistently in the Top Ten [usatoday.com] smoggiest cities. This keeps people inside. Going anywhere basically means driving there as sprawl [esri.com] and the resulting proliferation of more roads without increased mass transit or even bike lanes(again, gvmt sponsored), reckless drivers in large vehicles thanks to (previously, and relatively) cheap gas and the whole "southern/redneck" bit that leans towards F250s with 12"lift on mud tires, and the horrid air make it difficult to impossible to walk or bike anywhere (outside of Down/Mid Town Atl) for fear of your life. So people tend to sit on their fat asses in their offices all day and eat at one of about 20 McDonads [google.com] or Waffle Houses [google.com] in the 2mi radius of their home (after driving there of course)... not that I miss having a 24h eatery nearby (I miss my WaHo and Marietta Diner!). Add to all that that NASCAR is a "Sport" in Ga, and as such, "exercising" consists of sitting in bleachers (or on the sofa), smoking, drinking budweiser and eating chilli cheese dogs while watching cars go in circles.

Alot of this could be fixed by improving mass-transit, curbing Sprawl (which is what really caused the drought) and improving Atlanta's Bikability [atlantabike2.org] . Generally getting people out of their cars and walking or biking places. MARTA's subway line only goes to about 3 useful places [itsmarta.com] : the airport, downtown, and perimeter mall, while a majority of people live in Cobb County, which rejected having anything to do with a Marta rail line (think: "It will bring in the colored people to steal our TV's!").

Ga is way behind in most rankings of things as well: the Gov'ner has repeatedly struck down [potsdam.edu] attempts to allow Sunday sales of any alcoholic beverage (outside of a restaurant), the most recent time saying it would teach "better time management," thus keeping Georgia one of 3 states still having such arcane blue laws. The state is kept in the past though laws like this, as well as the control the churches [guardian.co.uk] have over it and its citizens, which also causes the health of the state to remain in the past. Some other interesting Stats on Georgia's health [healthyamericans.org]

</rant >

...glad Im gone from there, though I do miss alot of the natural features of the area

Tm

Re:14th Most Obese in Country (3, Informative)

Llamalarity (806413) | more than 6 years ago | (#23898679)

MARTA's subway line only goes to about 3 useful places [itsmarta.com]: the airport, downtown, and perimeter mall, while a majority of people live in Cobb County, which rejected having anything to do with a Marta rail line (think: "It will bring in the colored people to steal our TV's!").


Racism was only a tiny part of the issue. Money for example was much larger. The real reason Cobb rejected MARTA was lingring bitterness over Atlanta killing the trolley lines back in the 1950s. When MARTA was first proposed in the late 60s or early 70s (sorry I forget exactly when) Cobb was told it would be dead last in getting rail, and would have to pay the extra 1% sales tax for decades. Naturally the citizens of Cobb told them to stick it!

Had they (I have since moved to the boonies) joined MARTA then, Cobb still would not have rail today. Good call in my book.

Re:14th Most Obese in Country (4, Informative)

0xdeadbeef (28836) | more than 6 years ago | (#23898797)

Oh, please. Gwinnett rejected it too, and "crime" was the primary excuse. Because, you know, criminals would commute from Atlanta and haul their phat booty back on the trains. It had nothing to do with the race of those most likely to need rail service into the city. Oh no, not that at all.

The delicious irony of it all is that Gwinnett is now the most ethnically diverse region of the state due to immigration, and had to start funding its own bus service just like Cobb.

Except there's not much delicious about it. (1)

maillemaker (924053) | more than 6 years ago | (#23899889)

I moved to the Indian Trail area in 1998. It was booming.

A year or so ago we were in the area and decided to drive around the area, including Gwinett Place Mall up on Pleasant Hill.

The whole area, particularly the area east of I-85 on Jimmy Carter is a disaster. The mall was desolate. The whole area just looks run down.

If this is what having an ethnically diverse region does for your community it's no wonder they resisted mass transit to speed its coming.

I have friends on the Norcross Police force. They corroborate my impression of the area where I used to live.

Re:Except there's not much delicious about it. (1)

0xdeadbeef (28836) | more than 6 years ago | (#23901719)

What do you expect would happen when the biggest mall [simon.com] in the Southeast opens 10 miles down the highway?

Do you believe that non-white people make land cheap, or is it that non-white people live on the land no one else wants to buy?

Anyway, I laugh at the white flight. Those peons were OTP to begin with, and they're even more OTP now. Enjoy the commute.

Re:Except there's not much delicious about it. (1)

maillemaker (924053) | more than 6 years ago | (#23906285)

What do you expect would happen when the biggest mall in the Southeast opens 10 miles down the highway?

That might explain the mall, but not the entire area. Basically everything east of I-85, south of Pleasant Hill, North of I-285 and east of Lawrenceville Hwy has gone way downhill since I lived there.

Do you believe that non-white people make land cheap, or is it that non-white people live on the land no one else wants to buy?

I believe that for whatever reason, predominantly black or predominantly mexican neighborhoods tend to be run-down, with all the social problems that go with that such as crime and school quality, at least in the Atlanta area. Consequently people with the means won't live there. That usually means white people. Right or wrong, people vote with their dollars, and the people most able to vote with dollars are white people.

In the case of Norcross, I think it used to be a nice bedroom community with starter-priced homes in the $100K to $150K range - that is what drew us there. This happened to also be the target range for immigrants and their families looking to buy homes, sometimes multiple families living in the same home. My guess is it eventually reached a tipping point where enough white people left that the local area economy tanked.

Why is this? I can only guess the immigrants barely had enough money to buy the homes and not enough money to support all the other local businesses. Also there was an influx of crime (cause or effect?) which didn't help. My police friends tell me the Norcross area is now struggling with more and more mexican vs. chinese gang problems.

Whatever the cause and effect, the bottom line is the whole area has gone to shit, and there are less and less white people living there.

Anyway, I laugh at the white flight. Those peons were OTP to begin with, and they're even more OTP now. Enjoy the commute.

When I lived there, I lived and worked outside the perimeter. I only traveled inside the perimeter for entertainment. Ultimately I moved to another state for a better salary and commute. I've never understood the "OTP" elitism. What's fun about living in concrete city with postage-stamp yards?

It seems now that all the white flight is now back INSIDE the perimeter - all those run-down communities down by the Hill Street Community Center have been renovated and now sell for $250K+. Not to mention that huge new walk-able community they built downtown in and around that old train yard. I bet that isn't a haven of multiculturalism. I bet it's white as rice.

Re:14th Most Obese in Country (3, Insightful)

digitalgiblet (530309) | more than 6 years ago | (#23901809)

The delicious irony of it all is that Gwinnett is now the most ethnically diverse region of the state due to immigration...

This is one of my favorite things about Gwinnett. I have friends on my street from Nigeria, Liberia, China, Mexico, Korea and India (and there are only about 20 houses on our street). We have a very close knit neighborhood and my kids get play with kids with very diverse backgrounds.

I work in the city of Atlanta and we hear a lot about "diversity". Their definition of "diversity" is African Americans working with Caucasian Americans. Pretty narrow view of diversity in my book...

Uh....think again! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23903705)

The crackheads argument is logical in not expanding marta out to the suburb townsâ¦think about it for a minute there. Consider Sandy Springs. Spending time out there where there are a bunch of stops throughout the area, versus Marietta, which is a rock throw away, you learn a lot. It may not be a pleasant reality, but it is a reality.

Re:14th Most Obese in Country (1)

deepgrey (1246108) | more than 6 years ago | (#23898741)

which also causes the health of the state to remain in the past.

because the past was so unhealthy.

unhealthy past (1)

Tmack (593755) | more than 6 years ago | (#23900809)

which also causes the health of the state to remain in the past.

because the past was so unhealthy.

Actually, yes. The overall measure health seems to be measured by is life expectancy. It is significantly higher now than in the past for most parts of the US, and continues to climb as medicine and health issues are solved. Take a look at this Map [usatoday.com] (and RTFA!) and make your statement again. As Georgia (and its neighbors) remain in the past, so does the avg life expectancy relative to the rest of the US. One of the main suggested causes is health education, something most other states have improved upon year over year. Georgia is at the bottom. Try the stats page (pdf) google turns up as hit #1 on "Georgia Education Rank", Ga ranks in the 40s for most things that count, and top10 where it makes you wonder how that could be (ie: 9th largest, 5th fastest growing state, but 49th High School graduation rate and 44th childrens health). Georgia is behind, its painfully obvious.

Tm

Re:14th Most Obese in Country (1)

nospam007 (722110) | more than 6 years ago | (#23900061)

...glad Im gone from there, though I do miss alot of the natural features of the area

West Nile virus bearing mosquitos? http://health.state.ga.us/epi/vbd/mosquito.asp [state.ga.us]
If they get out of their cars it might be unhealthy too.

Re:14th Most Obese in Country (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23900437)

This should be printed on the front page of all the news papers in Georgia, and all the southern states as well. They wonder why there is such a brain drain in the south. I left my home in Florida for similar reasons, added to my list was a lack of decent jobs.

Re:14th Most Obese in Country (1)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 6 years ago | (#23900715)

Yeah, Atlanta is a minority-majority city. Being from the Bay Area, you've probably never lived around so many black people in your life. You can go ahead and say that you just plain don't care for black people, intstead of veiling your criticisms in terms of "arcane blue laws", (which are not arcane at all, they are very easily understood). But feel free to keep practicing your bigotry against whites, that is perfectly socially acceptable.

Ah . . . Waffle House . . . (1)

The Angry Mick (632931) | more than 6 years ago | (#23903639)

You gotta love a chain that puts a restaurant on both sides of a freeway exit.

Re:Are you saying GA's fat? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23899833)

Hence the shotguns. A shotgun is like a TV remove for their fists. Knocks intruders senseless without having to git up now :)

Re:Are you saying GA's fat? (1)

nategoose (1004564) | more than 6 years ago | (#23902395)

Co Coller and biscuits have much more to do with diabeetees than sweet tea. Less you are talkin' 'bout sweet tea from Arby's or McDonalds. (I am from GA, and still here)

Re:Are you saying GA's fat? (1)

Atrox666 (957601) | more than 6 years ago | (#23909017)

I don't know if that life style would contribute to any LONG TERM health costs.
I think that would contribute to early health care costs but you save tones on social security when they die young. I for one applaud Georgia's efforts at alleviating the social security crunch. This just in .. smoking is cool again.

Re:Are you saying GA's fat? (1)

Ikester8 (768098) | more than 6 years ago | (#23898011)

I resemble that comment, you insensitive clod!

What Southerners? (1)

redhound1 (587765) | more than 6 years ago | (#23899641)

I don't know if you've been to Atlanta lately, but its completely yankee town now. I correct that, Damn yankees because they won't leave!

This is only step one... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23897231)

Let's just say Steps 3 from 5 involve Google buying Georgia, rebranding the state Googlia (still GA), and eventually enslaving.... err.. emoploying the populace to work for the Google AI. Remember, the AI needs healthy people to carry out its will.

Re:This is only step one... (0, Redundant)

NeverVotedBush (1041088) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897277)

And Step 6: Profit!

Re:This is only step one... (1)

RealGrouchy (943109) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897285)

Well, no. That's just step 3. Step 5 is Profit!

- RG>

Re:This is only step one... (3, Funny)

Spatial (1235392) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897565)

Remember, the AI needs healthy people to carry out its will.
Nonsense, they have androids to do that.

Re:This is only step one... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23897605)

But who will build the androids?

Re:This is only step one... (2, Insightful)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 6 years ago | (#23898063)

enslaving... err... employing the populace to work for the Google AI

Hey, as long as we get free food from the company cafeteria and Fridays to work on our own pet projects, I (as a Georgia resident) am all for it!

Ballmer wet dream (2, Interesting)

fyoder (857358) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897347)

Wow, that summary reads like a dream of Ballmer's, except with Google instead of Microsoft being the indispensable tech partner.

I guess there's nothing to worry about, because Google is good, right?

cutting corners (3, Insightful)

icepick72 (834363) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897369)

Sounds like Georgia wants some free hosting and free tools and will only have to pay a web integration salary instead of a developer ... why the hell not?

MSUSA being taken over by GoogleUSA? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23897477)

No wonder Microsoft is fighting so hard for their Office file format.

Cut the BS (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23897489)

I wish they'd just drop the bullshit and come out and say "You want to turn into a lazy fatass and die an early death, that's your problem. Just don't pretend like it was anyone else's fault and don't burden the taxpayers with your poor decision-making and we're cool." I'd have much more respect for our esteemed leaders if they were honest about it.

Re:Cut the BS (1)

plasmacutter (901737) | more than 6 years ago | (#23900693)

I wish they'd just drop the bullshit and come out and say "You want to turn into a lazy fatass and die an early death, that's your problem. Just don't pretend like it was anyone else's fault and don't burden the taxpayers with your poor decision-making and we're cool." I'd have much more respect for our esteemed leaders if they were honest about it.
They abandoned this path when they awarded that lady a multi-million dollar settlement because her fat (explative deleted) wouldn't fit in an airline seat.

Georgians won't go outdoors? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23897523)

Has anyone ever been to Georgia? I seriously doubt the rednecks have a 'going outdoors' problem. If it weren't for 2 inches of sheet metal, these people would *live* outdoors.

Re:Georgians won't go outdoors? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23897623)

Has anyone ever been to Georgia? I seriously doubt the rednecks have a 'going outdoors' problem. If it weren't for 2 inches of sheet metal, these people would *live* outdoors.
I live in Georgia, you insensitive clod!
And between the heat, mosquitoes, and smog, I hope to spend my summer in front of my computer. Then again, I'm posting to Slashdot, so you knew that already.

Re:Georgians won't go outdoors? (4, Insightful)

C-Shalom (969608) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897903)

I'll second that.
Except for the part of living in Georgia, I live in Atlanta. There's a BIG difference.

Re:Georgians won't go outdoors? (1)

bingo_cannon (779085) | more than 6 years ago | (#23898179)

Except for the part of living in Georgia, I live in Atlanta. There's a BIG difference.
I'll second that!

Re:Georgians won't go outdoors? (1)

T3Tech (1306739) | more than 6 years ago | (#23898401)

I'll second that. Except for the part of living in Georgia, I live in Atlanta. There's a BIG difference.

I'll second that!
Would that make the second'ing exponential?

Re:Georgians won't go outdoors? (1)

bingo_cannon (779085) | more than 6 years ago | (#23898705)

2^2 = 2 * 2 ..so??

Re:Georgians won't go outdoors? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23900039)

There's 3 types of Georgia. ITP, OTP, and Bumblefuck.

Resistance is Futile (2, Funny)

amasiancrasian (1132031) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897537)

We are Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

Re:Resistance is Futile (2, Funny)

kiehlster (844523) | more than 6 years ago | (#23899295)

We are Linux. You will be compiled. Resistance is measured in ohms.

and here I thought... (4, Funny)

beefubermensch (575927) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897557)

...Google has been one of the single biggest things keeping me INdoors

-Carl

Google is the new Microsoft (-1, Troll)

thomasw_lrd (1203850) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897571)

Google is crap, soon they will turn out third rate products that don't work. Google is the new evil empire, we must start the fight now.

Re:Google is the new Microsoft (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23897983)

Google already turn out third rate products. It's just that everything else in the free arena is sixth rate, just like Microsoft is almost the only real option on the home office/SME desktop and has been for two decades.

Many markets are run by near monopolies or cartels. It's the natural way of capitalism in any established field.

Three step health plan (3, Funny)

John3 (85454) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897573)

1: Partner with Google

2: ?

3: Health and profit

Kind of neat but... (4, Interesting)

dyslexicbunny (940925) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897607)

So I checked out their website http://www.getoutdoorsgeorgia.org/ [getoutdoorsgeorgia.org] and overall I'm pretty impressed with the idea. I think this is a good thing. If state park information is located in one place, perhaps more people might take advantage of the facilities.

Looking at the disc golf section though, I'm kind of disappointed that the only information is solely for state parks. Living in Atlanta, I know of a few courses around that aren't state parks but county parks. They are also much closer than 30+ miles of the state parks.

I'm hoping that this is simply due to an early start and more information will get put in as counties might get online. But if not, I think they're missing a big opportunity for more information and getting people more involved at a local level. But perhaps they are simply looking for the extra revenue from the parks since most of the local parks are free access.

Re:Kind of neat but... (1)

duncan7 (247274) | more than 6 years ago | (#23902193)

Also, the Georgia DNR's Wildlife Resources Division pages were down for at least a day last week, meaning that the online recreation regulations relating to hunting and fishing were unavailable, along with online license sales through gofishgeorgia.com. I guess serving only IIS's 404 error page would be the opposite approach to the overall GO Georgia initiative.

GA Resident Here... (2, Insightful)

da3dAlus (20553) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897755)

Actually, I only briefly heard about the GO initiative last week, just in time for their "all parks free" day. I _had_ to use Google to find the site just get info about it, considering the news broadcast didn't divulge many additional details.

Great idea! (2)

MindPhlux (304416) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897801)

I imagine I am pretty much exactly their target audience, but I live in Atlanta and think this is an awesome idea. My family was never too in to outdoor activity when I was a kid, but now that I am older I often want to get out and go hiking or fishing or camping. Usually what happens is that I get this urge on a Thursday, spend the day googling possible locations, don't come up with much aside from vague directions and maybe a few sites of places 3 hours away, and then it is midday Friday, I get off work without a plan, and I give up. Now, I realize this is largely my fault, but just in visiting this site I have discovered 4 or 5 places that I had never found before, that look like perfect nearby places to get out and bike or fish. Perfect!

Re:Great idea! (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 6 years ago | (#23898153)

You did know that Georgia already had a web site for all the state parks [gastateparks.org] , didn't you?

The only real difference between this new site and that one is that they've added a "search by activity and zip code" function. All the information was already there and reasonably easy to find before, however.

You would think... (1)

ZonkerWilliam (953437) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897815)

Being an employee of the State of Georgia I would of heard this. Ah well there out sourcing us (IT) soon, so I'll have all the opportunity to be out doors.

This is GREAT! (2, Interesting)

HitekHobo (1132869) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897843)

My girlfriend and I are traveling fulltime and living in the national forests, wildlife management areas, etc. I LOVE when we're in a state that has proactively put tons of information about their outdoor recreation areas online.

It's so much easier to find places to stay and know what's nearby in areas like this than in the more backwards areas where you are just guessing and stopping to ask the locals, who often have no idea or just give bad advice.

This is good for the state of Georgia, it's citizens and anyone traveling through the state that enjoys the ootdoors (the big blue room).

Watch out for the Bush zones... (2, Insightful)

Tmack (593755) | more than 6 years ago | (#23898363)

Just be careful or you might end up in clear-cut wasteland [creativeloafing.com] courtesy our wonderful leader. I just moved from the state, and alot of the "wilderness" areas now have huge swaths of these clear cuts. Sure, they claim they are in remote areas rarely visited, but they fail to mention that they are still very visible from the other more poplar areas. Now that Im in the Bay Area of SF, I get to enjoy the giant Red wood forests, which seem to be much better protected around here than the woods back in Ga. Its sad that my last few hikes in the Georgia wilderness areas include images of Ugly clear cutting swaths of what used to be beautiful woods.

Tm

Re:Watch out for the Bush zones... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23898699)

Its sad that my last few hikes in the Georgia wilderness areas include images of Ugly clear cutting swaths of what used to be beautiful woods.
No, what's sad is your command of written English, which is very poor at best.

Re:Watch out for the Bush zones... (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 6 years ago | (#23899629)

Actually the federal government has a whole organization expressly for the purpose of clear-cutting, it's called the bureau of land management. They maintain roads so that corporations can get in and clear-cut by contract, and to provide transportation when they want to come in and bust a guerrilla marijuana operation.

Which southern state was giving out Mozart CDs (2, Interesting)

EsJay (879629) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897905)

Which southern state was giving a Mozart CD to newborns (in lieu of future education and healthcare)? Mississippi?

I tell you what, that's some quality health initiative you got there, boy. Yesiree.

Re:Which southern state was giving out Mozart CDs (2)

EsJay (879629) | more than 6 years ago | (#23898003)

Ya know - reading the press release and some of the comments here - I retract my sneery/snarky statement. I love the national forests. I've camped in dozens of them. I once spent a week working as a volunteer laborer, for a US Forest Service project. Anything to boost public interest and support is OK with me.

No mention of Google Health (3, Interesting)

Ilyakub (1200029) | more than 6 years ago | (#23897919)

Interesting that the plan does not include promotion of Google Health.

Maybe... (2, Funny)

deepgrey (1246108) | more than 6 years ago | (#23898655)

it'll help the guy that called and asked how to get to Vogel State Park "from I-20." I might point out that I-20 runs through six states...

Re:Maybe... (1)

Molochi (555357) | more than 6 years ago | (#23899903)

So he didn't know Vogel was in GA? I don't get it, what was the big deal?

1) Take I-20 going towards ATL until you get to I-285.
2) Go north on I-285.
3) Go north on GA400.
4) Follow the signs when you get near Dahlonaga.
5) If someone tells you, "You got a perty mouth." you'll know you made it.

Hell you could start in Abilene TX and follow those directions.

Re:Maybe... (1)

deepgrey (1246108) | more than 6 years ago | (#23900035)

Well, if you're east of Atlanta, it wouldn't make much sense take 400; you'd want to take 129. When I asked him where he was, he said that he'd just look at a map. So why the heck did he call in the first place? I assume that when you make reservations, you have at least a vague idea of where you're going.

Georgia = Swamp (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23898945)

People in Georgia are fat because if you go outside you'll either get eaten by mosquitoes, suffocate in humidity (unless you have gils and can breathe underwater, but then again you'd have a better place to live), or get sucked in by the swamp and become gator food. No amount of Google partnership is going to help. I've had to live there on and off for 5 years now, my advice is - don't go to Georgia. If you have to drive through, try to go around it, if can't do that drive fast and don't stop. Especially if you're not white, they "don't like yo' kind aroun hea". Again previous sentence applies to Georgia as a whole except for Atlanta, where it's the opposite and if you are white somebody will probably try to "put a cap in yo a$$".

Seriously though I can't speak for all of Georgia, I heard there are nicer places within the state, but I've yet to see one. I've mostly been around south-eastern part of it. Good luck travelers.

Re:Georgia = Swamp (1)

superslacker87 (998043) | more than 6 years ago | (#23899089)

Anywhere you go, you're going to find someone who doesn't like someone and where the air sucks. Over here east in Augusta, the second biggest city in the state, the air was 4th worst in the country just last month. There's rampant racism here like you speak of in Atlanta, just like there most likely is in any major/larger city.

Want to stop being fat and make the air a little cleaner? Ride a bicycle. I ride nearly every day from my off-post house onto Fort Gordon (yep, I'm in the Army) and get many annoying honks from people who don't quite understand the bicycle laws [state.ga.us] of the state of Georgia. I have a right to the road just the same as you, even if I am only pedaling five miles an hour up a steep hill on a fifty-five mile an hour road.

Try it. You'll save money on gasoline and be happier.

Re:Georgia = Swamp (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23899101)

You described the Okefenokee region perfectly.

The nothern part of the state doesn't have mosquitoes, because it's all foothills and mountains. The southwest part is coastal plain.

I don't know where the "not white" comment comes from; the state is about a third black, with hispanics making up a good chunk too.

Re:Georgia = Swamp (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23899943)

I started Georgia = Swamp, sorry for anon never registered.

I was mostly joking, although racism is a bit more of an issue than in the Northeast where I'm from. You're absolutely right about african-americans and hispanics being large portion of the population, though there's more segregation than I've ever seen before. Maybe I've just lived a sheltered life. By the way I'm military too, Fort Benning (Columbus area), Fort Gordon (Augusta area), Fort Stewart(Savannah area). The Georgian triangle. I've been to Atlanta and Athens. Pretty big state, different parts vary.

I don't think this State-Google partnership will make any difference when it comes to obesity or other health issues though, just going outside to a park and having a nice BBQ while washing it down with beer isn't going to replace diet and excercise. It's all about what you do and what you eat, whether it's indoors or outdoors doesn't matter.

Re:Georgia = Swamp (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23899991)

"The nothern part of the state doesn't have mosquitoes..."

You are on crack. While the drought has reduced the mosquito pop of late, North GA still has a thriving swarm of bloodsuckers. Bring the "Cutter Back Woods", it'll fend off tiger mosquitoes and the deer ticks.

Re:Georgia = Swamp (2, Interesting)

angrykeyboarder (791722) | more than 6 years ago | (#23900097)

I lived in Atlanta for several years (1996-2004).

Unfortunately circumstances beyond my control forced me to leave.

I'd still be there otherwise. I love it.
  • 4 Seasons (novel if you've spent most of your life in the Desert Southwest).
  • Winters aren't freezing and Summers aren't sweltering [wunderground.com] .
  • Snow is rare.
  • Very cosmopolitan
  • One of the greenest cities (literally) around.
  • All kinds of things to see and do.

Yes, it has it's problems (e.g. the traffic is horrendous) but so does every major city. Nevertheless, the good outweighs the bad. It sure beats the hell out of Phoenix [wunderground.com] (where I've been stuck for the past 4 years).

Re:Georgia = Swamp (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23908159)

One of the greenest cities (literally) around.
Maybe it's just because I've only lived in Ohio and Oregon, but to say Atlanta is a 'green' city just...wow. Boggles the mind. Atlanta is about the farthest from a 'green' city I've EVER been in (granted, Phoenix is worse, but I don't think anyone would confuse them for actually trying).

Would it be rather more fair to say that, with an apparent sample set of '2', this is maybe not the most comprehensive conclusion to draw?

Where are those four horsemen ? (1)

budword (680846) | more than 6 years ago | (#23899103)

Tech innovation from a state where it is still legal to marry your first cousin. The end is near.

Re:Where are those four horsemen ? (1)

utopyr (621354) | more than 6 years ago | (#23899561)

It's legal? Damn. All these years I've wasted, pining.

Re:Where are those four horsemen ? (1)

MC Negro (780194) | more than 6 years ago | (#23904277)

Tech innovation from a state where it is still legal to marry your first cousin. The end is near.
Ho-hum. You might want to look into which states allow cousins to marry : New York, California, Massachusetts, D.C., etc... [ncsl.org] - Not exactly backwoods. If anything, Georgia is in the minority of southern states allowing first cousins to marry.

Other states have outdoors initiatives too (1)

danwiz (538108) | more than 6 years ago | (#23899219)

Connecticut has a similar outdoors initiative.
http://www.nochildleftinside.org/ [nochildleftinside.org]

Many states do. Not just the obese ones.

Re:Other states have outdoors initiatives too (1)

angrykeyboarder (791722) | more than 6 years ago | (#23899925)

True, but the whole point of this story is the Google angle.

Who's Number 1? (1)

CopaceticOpus (965603) | more than 6 years ago | (#23899963)

Since the article states that GA is the 12th fattest state, I wondered who was #1:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/health/2269064/detail.html [thedenverchannel.com]

Not too surprising to see Mississippi is largest. I wouldn't have guessed Michigan would be #2. I guess that happens when it's too cold to go outside 5 months out of the year, and you sit indoors eating pasties (which, admittedly, make a delicious 1500 calorie meal.) Colorado's mountain climbing hippies are the leanest.

What I find really shocking is that most states have about doubled the percent of their population that is obese in just 10 years, from 1991 to 2001. It's not as if fast food didn't exist in the eighties. What has changed so much in that time? Cable TV and DVD players? The internet? Or is it just a general cultural shift towards laziness?

Getting Georgiahans rich (1)

heroine (1220) | more than 6 years ago | (#23900161)

Maybe they'll feel richer now that they're partaking of the goodness of a multbillion dollar CEO.

My Experience... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23900537)

Growing up in the more rural regions Florida and Georgia, I saw more unhealthy and obese folk in the suburbs and cities, probably because a lot of them have grown up not doing hardly any physical labor and ate Whoppers and the like every day. Out where I lived, there weren't many rotund folks outside of the truly lazy, the spoiled brats a mile down the road, or the old folks who couldn't work in their yards nor fields much anymore and got big by feeding the grandkids well. Maybe my family was an exception, but the kind of cooking I had at home was rich in red meat (steaks two to four times a week), almost always had salads with fresh ingredients (from the local Wal*Mart that got a lot of its produce from farms within an 8 hour drive or so), and had a good deal of fried chicken, pork chops, and other things that'd make vegans weep. Dad was also fond of cooking pasta dishes, but not as much as cooking meat. The other side to all this was that we often worked in the yards, held jobs that required us to move around a lot (it didn't hurt that I was in the marching band in school and rode my bicycle quite often when I was in college), and lived in areas with relatively low pollution levels. I'm not a marathoner, but I'd consider myself pretty healthy, especially compared to most of the city folk I've run into.

The takeaway from this long-winded passage should be that folks need to move around once in a while and, God-forbid, balance what they eat. I love my fried chicken, but I also eat a lot of fruit, salads, and such.

On the other hand, 95+ degree heat along with 95%+ humidity makes sitting on the comfy couch in a 70-some degree air-conditioned house very, very attractive... We all can't live in Colorado and Nor Cal where it doesn't really get oppressively hot.

P.S.: The mass transit system in almost every place I've been here in the US sucks. The best one I've seen so far in my travels was in Denver when I was on leave with a buddy of mine. It was a totally new thing to me to see light rail and buses that took you to places you actually wanted to be.

As a georgia resident, I know NOTHING will ... (2, Insightful)

plasmacutter (901737) | more than 6 years ago | (#23900689)

As a georgia resident, I know for a fact nothing will make people go outside.. well, nothing except a huge bubble over the entire state with a massive HVAC system cooling it about 20-30 degrees depending on the time of year.

This year the winter "lows" were the mid 60's. I was walking around in a t-shirt basting in my own juices simply moving from the car to the grocery store in early january, and at this point in the year the AC barely keeps pace running 24/7 in a home a little over a decade old.

Just to the south-east of atlanta is a small town, and in that town I actually found a runed stone cover to hell. I came back during the summer to find the devil himself climbing out of his domain through this opening proclaiming it's too cold down there, so he's taking a month vacation in ATL.

Nobody in their right mind wants to go outside and fry, so people get fat.. and i mean MORBIDLY FAT. These people knock candy bar cases off the walls as they putter through the checkouts in the carts meant for paraplegics, their corpulence so spread that the 3 ft wide seat looks more like a bar stool.

I think Lincoln made a horrible mistake not allowing the south to secede. They are, statistically and geographically, the US beer gut : P

Re:As a georgia resident, I know NOTHING will ... (1)

Arkham (10779) | more than 6 years ago | (#23906389)

It's not that hot in Georgia, it's just humid as hell. If you think GA is bad, head south to Florida. it's 15 degrees warmer, with 10% more humidity, plus mosquitos the size of Cessnas [cessna.com] .

Truthfully, Georgia is a great place to live. The spring and fall are both long and temeperate. The cost of living is relatively low, the people are generally friendly and far better educated than Alabama, South Carolina, or most other southern states, and the government is fairly technologically progressive. You can renew your license online, pay traffic tickets online, check/pay/dispute land assessments online, check the traffic on major highways online (complete with pictures from the cameras), and more.

With towns like Suwanee leading the way, there's a strong resurgence in building and maintaining greenspace too. If not for the horrendous drought, it would be one of the better places in America to live.

Re:As a georgia resident, I know NOTHING will ... (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#23907597)

Don't exaggerate. Cessnas aren't that big.

More Life Imitating Dilbert..... (1)

IHC Navistar (967161) | more than 6 years ago | (#23901297)

Why, yes, I *DO* have an arc welder and a barrel of kerosene!

Small problem here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23903109)

Don't y'all need one of them computer thing-ees to use Google?

I'm just sayin'.

Another Alternative Prehaps? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23907445)

How about we cut off insurance for fat people and instead every time they need to go to the doctor we give them a cookie? I think this will solve the problem in the long run since the cost of a cookie will never equal a doctor's visit. Eventually they will get fat enough that they won't be able to leave their house. Problem Solved!

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