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Cutting-Edge AI Projects?

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the no-hacking-furby-does-not-count dept.

Software 346

Xeth writes "I'm a consultant with DARPA, and I'm working on an initiative to push the boundaries of neuromorphic computing (i.e. artificial intelligence). The project is designed to advance ideas all fronts, including measuring and understanding biological brains, creating AI systems, and investigating the fundamental nature of intelligence. I'm conducting a wide search of these fields, but I wanted to know if any in this community know of neat projects along those lines that I might overlook. Maybe you're working on a project like that and want to talk it up? No promises (seriously), but interesting work will be brought to the attention of the project manager I'm working with. If you want to start up a dialog, send me an email, and we'll see where it goes. I'll also be reading the comments for the story."

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Cyberdyne Systems (5, Funny)

ascendant (1116807) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912143)

Just a small company, I'm sure no-one's noticed it.
Cyberdyne Systems []

Re:Cyberdyne Systems (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912185)

I hear their stock is on the rise actually.

Re:Cyberdyne Systems (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912211)

I was probably like any other fifteen year old when I was growing up, seemingly aways having to fight off a hard-on. Maybe it was hormones, maybe it was because I was still a virgin, but my almost daily jack-off sessions didn't seem to help much. I still wanted to experience the feeling of my dick actually plunging into some beautiful young girl's tight, wet cunt. Hell, she didn't even have to be all that beautiful!

This feeling was driving me crazy. I HAD to have me a piece of ass soon, or I was simply gonna explode! I just couldn't keep out the thoughts of some young girl's pointed, jiggling tits slipping between my lips while my dick plowed between her moist slit.

My imagination, summer bikinis, and dad's PENTHOUSEs helped me to fill out my favorite fantasies of what the girls in my classes looked like naked. Those vivid images of beautiful, naked young girls coming into my room looking at my dick with lust, or my plopping them down on a desk right there in school and fucking our brains out seemed to dominate my every waking moment. Hell, even my nights were filled with wet dreams of these nubile young girls offering their naked bodies to me on sight!

The truth was I had never even seen a live naked girl since I was about seven-years-old playing doctor with a neigbor girl. Even then I didn't know what it was all about, just that my little dick got hard when I touched her bare pussy and that it felt REAL GOOD when she touched my hard dick. 'If only I new then what I know now,' I thought. Furthermore, I was much too shy to even approach a girl my age to ask for a date, much less to ask for a piece of ass or a blowjob.

I was sitting under a tree fretting about all of this one summer day, when I was startled by the voice of a young neighbor girl who had walked up behind me.

"What are you doing out here all by yourself?"

Pauline was a typical eleven-year-old, her body just beginning to show the first signs of maturing into an hourglass shape, but she still was flat-chested. Her personality had definitely not matured, and I even cosidered her to be quite a brat.

"Nothing much, just moping around," I told her.

"What's wrong?" she asked in a soft tone, touching my knee as she sat down beside me on the ground, her small skirt riding up her smooth legs.

I had never looked at her in a sexual way before, but the combination of my frustration and her uncharacteristic soft-spoken manner caused me to take a second look at her. She was actually a very pretty young girl, with long dark brown hair that flowed down onto her flat, preteen chest. Her innocent dark brown eyes looked deeply into mine as she pondered my troubles, and I began to get an idea on how I might exploit this budding motherly instinct of hers.

"Well......, it's just that a lot of the other guys my age have dated girls already," I began, "some of them have even had sex."

I paused to check her reaction. She was still sitting there looking at me intently, her knees pulled up near her chest and her arms draped around them casually leaving her skirt to gape open under her legs. I was sure that anyone passing by would be able to see her panties, but she didn't seem to be aware of her immodest pose.

"I'm just too shy to ask anyone out, though. I guess I'll never have the guts to either."

She sat there silently, bending her head down and resting her chin on her knees. She seemed to be in thought as she began to stare blankly at the ground in front of her, possibly wondering about her own lack of boyfriends and whether she too would ever have the experience of having sex one day.

"Have you ever wondered what it's like to have sex?" I asked her, hoping to guide the situation into a possible encounter. v She looked at me momentarily to see if I was sincere, or just trying to poke fun at her before answering.

"Well...., yeah...., sometimes...., but nobody really likes me much around here. All of the boys in my class just want to play by themselves. I'll probably never have a boyfriend or anything," she said solemnly.

"Have you ever thought about doing it with anybody around here?" I asked, pressing further.

"EEEWWW, NO!" she said, raising her voice defensively.

"Don't get mad, Pauline! I was just wondering." I said, trying to salvage the situation. "I wouldn't tell anybody if you had thought about it."

After that exchange, we both sat silently for a few moments. She resumed her position of resting her head on her knees, and her skirt still left her entire bottom open below her legs. Hoping to get a better view of this sight, I stretched and yawned, feigning fatique. I then bent forward and crawled along the ground until I was stretched out on my side facing Pauline, my feet resting against the large tree. She looked at me momentarily before reaverting her gaze to the ground directly in front of her, resuming her thoughts. I waited until she looked away before looking under her legs, but when I did, I was greeted by the sight of her beautiful tanned legs disappearing into the rumpled bottom of her skirt. Between them was a bright white strip of cotton cloth, covering what I knew had to be her young twat. The tightness of the cloth stretched across her little pussy, clearly identifying just where it was by the indentation of the fabric along the slit. My dick immediately began to respond, and I quickly stuck my hand in my pocket to adjust it before it was too late, leaving it there to help hide the effect it was going to have on my pants.

"I've thought a lot about having sex," I said, looking back up to her eyes just as she turned her gaze back to me.

"Really? Who with?" she asked curiously.

Now she had me on the spot. If I told her all of the girls my fantasies revolved around, it would be just like this little brat to go and tell them. As I studied her face though, I noticed a look that I had never seen before. It was as if she was trying to form a mental image of two people having sex, me being one of them and the other still left blank.

"Well...., I don't know. You might think it's gross if I tell you. What's more, you'll probably go right off and tell them if I told you who it was," I said.

"I won't think it's gross, and I promise I won't tell...., please....." she pleaded.

Now I was beginning to feel I was getting somewhere. I really had her curiosity up, and I even thought that she might even be enjoying this line of conversation.

"Well...., OK," I began. "But you gotta promise you aren't gonna tell. And it's not like I would really do it with them or anything. I've just thought about it, OK?"

"OK, sure!" she replied, just a tinge of excitement in her voice. v "Um..., well..., you know Jodi McAllister? I've thought about doing it with her." I said.

"Oh," she replied, sounding slightly disappointed.

"Yeah, she's got a nice body. Blonde hair....., blue eyes...., and pretty nice tits too! And she's got a REAL nice ass on her!" I said, hoping to get Pauline's gears going.

Pauline raised up, resting her chin on her hands, her elbows on her knees. She shifted her geet out from her body, keeping her thighs together. Her little feet were pointed inward slightly, giving her a very little girlish look. Her gaze seemed to be far off now as she thought about what I had said.

My eyes returned to that magic spot between her legs momentarily, as I pondered how to word my next sentence.

"Who else have you thought about?" she asked in a faraway tone.

"Well...., if you promise you won't think it's gross.....," I said, pausing for a response.

"No..., no, I don't think it's gross!" she said, looking back at me with pleading eyes.

"Well...., I'm kinda embarrased to tell you who else I was thinking about," I said teasingly.

"Aw, c'mon....., I promise I won't tell!" she begged.

"Well...., you really won't have to...., 'cause...., I kinda have been thinkin' about doin' it with you," I said softly, not really lying about it now.

A look of complete surprise came over her face as her head raised from its resting place slightly and her hands came apart. Her mouth gaped open as she took in what I had just said and I noticed a distinct deep red blush spread across her face.

"Larry...!" she exclaimed, not really knowing what to say next.

"Y-y-you've really..... thought about...., y'know..., having sex..... with me?!" she asked in disbelief.

"Well....yeah," I said, more confidently. "You're a pretty girl, and even though you don't really have any tits yet, you still have a nice body."

She blushed again, instinctively reaching down and wrapping her skirt around her legs, drawing them together and hunching over to rest her chin on her knees once more. It was obvious that she had been flattered about my remarks, but at the same time she was totally caught off guard with the thought of someone wanting to have sex with her. I could see her playing out the scene in her mind as she sat there, rocking back and forth slightly.

A long, pregnant pause elapsed before anyone said anything again. It was me who initiated the next question.

"Well..., what do you think?" I asked her. "Do you think you would want to have sex with somebody like me?"

"NO!" she exclaimed. "I couldn't....., I mean....., I'm only eleven-years-old. I shouldn't be doing stuff like that. And besides, you're fifteen!"

"So, I know some girls who did it when they were nine- years-old," I lied.

"Oh yeah....., who?" she demanded.

"Well...., I promised I wouldn't tell. And promises are promises," I said, trying to get myself out of that one.

Pauline thought for a moment before saying, "Well...., I dunno....., I just don't think I better do anything like that."

"OK, OK......, but if you COULD do it, do you think you would do it with somebody like me?" I asked, trying to keep on the topic.

"Well...., I dunno," she said blushing. "I...., I guess so."

I just smiled back at her, "Thanks, Pauline. I needed to hear that!"

She looked back at me, and an embarrased smile flashed across her face as she had to look away. I wasn't through with her yet, however. I just HAD to get something out of all of this. My dick was pressing against my pants with one of the most raging hard-ons I had ever had. I had noticed Pauline looking down at my crotch a couple of times as we had talked about doing it, but I wasn't sure if she saw anything as my hand was still in my pocket, paritally hiding the tent-like effect my dick was having on my pants.

I waited a few more moments before starting again, "You know...., I don't even know what a naked girl looks like."

"What about your sister, haven't you seen her naked before?" she asked.

"Well....yeah. But that was a long time ago, when she was just a little baby. Besides, it's not the same when you see your sister, especially when she's only one-year-old."

I continued to look at Pauline. She was all balled up, and refused to look at me when we weren't talking. I had decided that I just had to at least see her bare little pussy, even if she wasn't gonna let me fuck her. At least I would have something to go whack off with for a while.

"What about you...., would you let me see you naked?" I asked hesitantly. "I'll let you see me naked."

"I..., I don't know. I better not," her voice showing her uncertainty.

"Aw, c'mon Pauline," I begged. "I'll probably never get to see a naked girl until I get married...., if I ever DO get married."

"I-I don't know, Larry." she said nervously.

I could tell she was actually considering it, but she still would have rather I hadn't asked. Even so, the thought of seeing a naked boy probably for the first time intriqued her.

"I'll make it worth your while," I went on. "I'll buy you an banana split when the ice cream man comes by."

She paused for a moment, biting her upper lip as she contemplated my proposal. The agony of the moment was almost unbearable for me.

Finally, she spoke, " Well....OK...."

I almost leaped for joy inside, but I kept my cool on the outside. At least as much cool as I could considering my state of excitement.

"But you've got to promise that you'll not touch me. And you've got to promise not to tell ANYBODY. And you still have to buy me the banana split." she rattled on.

"OK, OK," I interupted, "I promise, I promise."

"C'mon, let's go to my grandpa's barn where nobody will see us," I said, grabbing her by the hand and rushing her away before she had a chance to change her mind.

Grandpa's barn was way off in a field by itself, surrounded by a few old oak trees on the sides and back. He used it mainly to store hay for his cows, and hardly ever came there during the summer. He also kept an old Studebaker out there, and that is where Pauline and I stopped to carry out our deal.

"You go first," I told her.

"Can't we both just go at the same time?" she asked.

"Well...., yeah..., sure," I said almost reluctantly, not wanting to miss one second of her bare pussy being exposed.

"Remember, you can't touch, and you've got to buy me that banana split," she said.

"I know, Pauline. You don't have to keep reminding me," I said, as I unzipped my pants and she pulled her panties down under her skirt.

I quickly shucked my cut-offs down, exposing my underwear and the large bulge sticking out into it. Pauline had bent over to pull her panties down to about her ankles, then stood up, stepping out of them with her left foot and flipping them off with her right. As she stood, she became transfixed by the sight of my bulging underwear.

Knowing that her pussy was naked under her skirt, and that I was about to see it seemed to make my dick even harder than ever. What's more, knowing that my naked cock was going to be so close to a naked pussy, and me not getting to at least stick it in was more than I could bear. I just had to have more than just a look. My mind raced over what I could say to coax her into letting me at least try to stick it in her as we both slowly began to expose our sex to each other.

I bent over as I slowly lifted the waistband of my underwear over my pulsing cockhead, sliding them down my legs. My face was about a foot and a half from Pauline's crotch, as she slowly lifted her skirt. The hem slowly inched it's way up, and just as I saw the first signs of a tiny hairless slit she stopped.

"Well, stand up so I can see it. We've got to do it together," she demanded.

Reluctanly I stood up, my hard dick pointing up at her face at about a 45 degree angle. Pauline gasped as she looked at it bobbing slightly in front of her.

"OK, Pauline, take your skirt off," I said impatiently.

"I'm just going to lift it up so you can see it, I don't want to take it off," she replied.

I was at the point where I didn't care, just so long as I could see her whole pussy. Quickly she jerked her skirt up over her waist to expose my first full view of a live girl's pussy. It was so beautiful, just a tiny little hairless slit laying there between her closed legs. I marveled at the smooth folds of skin, and the lack of anything else around them.

"Spread your legs a little bit, Pauline. I can't really see anything yet," I asked, my voice almost choking in my throat.

Pausing for a second, she then stepped outward with first one leg, then the other, leaving me a clear view of the little line running down her crotch and disappearing up under her. We stood lie that for a little bit, both of us in awe of each other before I spoke again.

"Pauline.....," I began, "Just let me stick it in you one time...., PLEASE! Just one time, that's all."

"I don't know....," she said cautiously, "besides, you said all I have to do is show you my thing, then you would buy me the banana split."

"I know, I know....., but you look so pretty down there...., a-and guys who have done it before tell me that it feels REAL good when you do it. I promise I'll only stick it in and then pull it right back out...., OK?" I pleaded as I watched her let the hem of her skirt relax downward a little as she thought.

"Well.....," she thought for a moment, looking at my cock, "I......, I guess it will be alright....., just one time though."

"OK," I said, "I get to stick it in you all the way one time, then I'll pull it out."

"Then you buy me the banana split," she added.

"Then I buy you the banana split," I acknowledged. "C'mon over here to the car, we can do it in the backseat."

She dropped her skirt back down and stood by the car door as I opened it. Then she jumped in and lay down on her back across the seat, pulling her skirt up. One leg draped off the edge of the seat, giving me my first good look at her whole, hairless little pussy slit. It started just a little ways up the front of her body and continued down all the way between her legs connecting with the crack of her ass, making one continuous line. The lips of her hairless twat were tight together, leaving no clue as to where her little hole might be.

Slowly, I climbed in the car over her until my dick hovered right over the top of her slit. I wasn't quite sure just where it was supposed to go, so without further ado, I began poking at her slit with my dick. The first prod ran along the very top portion of her hairless slit, the head of my cock parting her lips slightly as it slid up and onto her lower belly. She giggled a little bit at this new stimulation, as the shaft of my dick slid against her preteen clit. I raised up and tried again, producing the same effect. I propped myself up with my left arm as I backed up a little and eased my dick head down her slit with my right hand. 'Where is her little cunt hole,' I thought as my cock head explored the length of her slit. Suddenly, my dick felt something slightly more moist and hotter than before. 'That must be it," I thought, as I held my dick in place and pushed slightly. Her hole was tight, and my dick glanced off and ran down between her ass cheeks.

Again, I backed up and placed the head of my dick at the entrance to her tight, hairless hole and pushed. This time I felt the head go in slightly. As hard as my dick was, it began to bend so I backed off of the pressure a little, but keeping my dick in the same place. Once more I pushed in, and again I felt my dick slip in a little more. This time when I stopped, I felt the walls of her pussy begin to slip down around my cock, readjusting themselves to where they had formerly been. Again I pushed, and I noticed that her pussy lips seemed to go with my dick inside her. When I stopped again, I could see her slit slowly reappear as the walls of her pussy slowly slid back down my dick.

Again I pushed, and suddenly Pauline gasped. I wasn't sure what happened, all I was sure about was that the feeling was incredible. It was like pushing my dick through layer after layer, fold after fold of hot, moist skin. Her tiny hairless hole was so tight that I could only go in a fraction of an inch at a time. Each time I pushed, her whole twat would go with me, and each time I stopped her hole would slowly ease it's way further down my dick, giving me the feeling of passing yet another fold of her inner skin.

I could tell that Pauline was experiencing some discomfort, but she was not protesting. This was a business deal. Both of us had a bargain to keep, and she was certainly going to keep hers. After all, it wasn't very often that a kid around here got a banana split.

I kept up my assault on her tight, hairless, virgin cunt. I had almost gotten my entire dick in her on the last push when I felt the bottom of her pussy come into contact with the head of my dick. The last push had only allowed her pussy to slip down my dick part of the distance of my thrust, and her tiny slit was just barely visible between her legs, my dick resting snugly between them.

Well, I was all of the way in now. We looked at each other, both of us breathing heavily as I stayed inside her for a moment, relishing the feeling of my cock buried deep inside this eleven-year-old's tight, hairless pussy.

"Pauline....," I managed to speak between gasps, "how about if I move my dick back and forth inside your pussy some? I'll still buy you a banana split!"

She lay there with my dick inside her for a moment, panting heavily as she thought before asking hoarsely, "How many times do you want to do it?"

I looked at her for a moment. I hadn't thought about that. How many times does it take before I can cum?

"I dunno...," I gasped, "maybe about...., a hundred?"

I hurried to quell the look of apprehension on her face by explaining, "A hundred times is not a lot. Hell...., I can count to a hundred in less than a minute!"

She looked at me for a moment, then nodded in agreement as I began to slowly withdraw my dick until it was about halfway inside her. As I withdrew, the inner walls of her pussy seemed to hold onto my dick, creating an effect similar to the one when I entered her.

Gradually I began pumping back and forth. The grip of her pussy, combined with the wetness and moisture was causing that familiar feeling deep within my loins. Her gasps became little "Ahh's" that came in time with each quickening thrust of my dick inside her.

I don't think I needed to bargain for "about a hundred times", as the combination of the feeling of her tight hairless cunt wrapped around my dick, the feeling of her tiny body under mine, and the fact that she was looking me right in the eyes as I fucked her brought me over the edge with the most ball busting orgasm I had ever had.

The force of my orgasm forced me to thrust completely inside of her, burying my dick to the hilt. I could feel the hard little nub of her cervix pressing against my cock head as I erupted spurt after spurt deep inside her preteen pussy. The amount of my jism was so much, and the room inside her was so little, that after I filled her preteen womb completely with my spunk, I began to feel it spurt out between my dick and the walls of her twat, running down onto my balls and between the crack of her ass.

I had expended so much energy on my orgasm that I collapsed on top of her, my dick still buried deeply inside her. I rolled over slightly and eased my dick back out of her tiny twat, and as my cock head emerged from between her hairless pussy lips, one last spurt of pent up jism held inside my dick from the tightness of her pussy splashed across the bare lips of her slit, covering them completely.

Our deal was done. It was late however, and the ice cream man had already gone by for the day. It was also getting on to be about supper time, so Pauline slipped out of the car and put her panties back on under her skirt, leaving my cum dripping out of that sweet hairless hole and soaking those pretty white cotton panties.

I saw Pauline around the neigborhood a lot after that. I heard from my freinds that she eventually fucked almost every other boy in the neigborhood, but we never again got together like that, nor did we ever speak of it again. Come to think of it, I never did buy her that banana split!

Fundamental research? (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912399)


I'm studying theoritical computer science, meaning it's often called math (things like complexity theory, lambda calculus, even linear logic...).

I always loved AIs, but I was often told that there is no research on it which is that theoretical; that it's more like a collection of applied domains, like learning neural networks or computer vision.

So, what is the most theoritical aspect of AI research that you know? Or put otherwise, is there a branch of AI research where you prove theorems rather than writing code?

I know it's slightly off topic, but people working on that kind of thing are probably wondering if they should mention it here (wondering if it interests DARPA or not).

Re:Fundamental research? (4, Informative)

debatem1 (1087307) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912583)

A lot of the older AI research is pure theory, but in the last 20 years or so it has been driven by the realization that we don't really have the tools to meet some of the early expectations of the field. If you are interested in the theoretical foundations of AI, though, you might want to look into compression, data representation, and computability, as well as general information theory. Claude Shannon's work would be a good place to start, and is cited frequently enough to give you a guided tour through AI.

Re:Fundamental research? (3, Informative)

dominious (1077089) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912585)

Or put otherwise, is there a branch of AI research where you prove theorems rather than writing code?
It is called Automated Reasoning [] and there are already some theorem provers out there like Otter [] or Prover9 []

Re:Fundamental research? (2, Informative)

gfody (514448) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912681)

What about cognitive science [] . Using logic isn't cognition - "you're not thinking you're using logic"

I think he's a buzzword consultant (1)

EmbeddedJanitor (597831) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912461)

Lots of words, nothing said.

Re:I think he's a buzzword consultant (1)

Xeth (614132) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912599)

Well, yes, I'm asking a question, not offering an answer. Is there something specific you'd like me to clarify?

Re:Cyberdyne Systems (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912471)

OK, when the fuck did Slashdot become the literature-reviewer of first resort for these assholes who are too goddamned lazy to do their own research.

Did he leave an address where we could mail the finished, typeset and bound product to present to his project manager as his own work?

I, for one, (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912487)

Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda is a 29-year old white male with a stocky build and a goatee. He responded to my ad to be interviewed for this article wearing only leather pants, leather boots and a leather vest. I could see that both of his nipples were pierced with large-gauge silver rings.

Questioner: I hope you won't be offended if I ask you to prove to me that you're a nullo. Just so that my readers will know that this isn't a fake.

CmdrTaco: Sure, no problem. (stands and unbuckles pants and drops them to his ankles, revealing a smooth, shaven crotch with only a thin scar to show where his genitals once were).

Q: Thank you. That's a remarkable sight.

(laughs and pulls pants back up). Most people think so.

Q: What made you decide to become a nullo?

(pauses). Well, it really wasn't entirely my decision.

Q: Excuse me?

The idea wasn't mine. It was my lover's idea.

Q: Please explain what you mean.

Okay, it's a long story. You have to understand my relationship with Hemos before you'll know what happened.

Q: We have plenty of time. Please go on.

Both of us were into the leather lifestyle when we met through a personal ad. Hemos's ad was very specific: he was looking for someone to completely dominate and modify to his pleasure. In other word, a slave.

The ad intrigued me. I had been in a number of B&D scenes and also some S&M, but I found them unsatisfying because they were all temporary. After the fun was over, everybody went on with life as usual.

I was looking for a complete life change. I wanted to meet someone who would be part of my life forever. Someone who would control me and change me at his whim.

Q: In other words, you're a true masochist.

Oh yes, no doubt about that. I've always been totally passive in my sexual relationships.

Anyway, we met and there was instant chemistry. Hemos is about my age and is a complete loser. Our personalities meshed totally. He's very dominant.

I went back to his place after drinks and had the best sex of my life. That's when I knew I was going to be with Hemos for a long, long time.

Q: What sort of things did you two do?

It was very heavy right away. He restrained me and whipped me for quite awhile. He put clamps on my nipples and a ball gag in my mouth. And he hung a ball bag on my sack with some very heavy weights. That bag really bounced around when Hemos fucked me from behind.

Q: Ouch.

(laughs) Yeah, no kidding. At first I didn't think I could take the pain, but Hemos worked me through it and after awhile I was flying. I was sorry when it was over.

Hemos enjoyed it as much as I did. Afterwards he talked about what kind of a commitment I'd have to make if I wanted to stay with him.

Q: What did he say exactly?

Well, besides agreeing to be his slave in every way, I'd have to be ready to be modified. To have my body modified.

Q: Did he explain what he meant by that?

Not specifically, but I got the general idea. I guessed that something like castration might be part of it.

Q: How did that make you feel?

(laughs) I think it would make any guy a little hesitant.

Q: But it didn't stop you from agreeing to Hemos's terms?

No it didn't. I was totally hooked on this man. I knew that I was willing to pay any price to be with him.

Anyway, a few days later I moved in with Hemos. He gave me the rules right away: I'd have to be naked at all times while we were indoors, except for a leather dog collar that I could never take off. I had to keep my balls shaved. And I had to wear a butt plug except when I needed to take a shit or when we were having sex.

I had to sleep on the floor next to his bed. I ate all my food on the floor, too.

The next day he took me to a piercing parlor where he had my nipples done, and a Prince Albert put into the head of my cock.

Q: Heavy stuff.

Yeah, and it got heavier. He used me as a toilet, pissing in my mouth. I had to lick his asshole clean after he took a shit, too. It was all part of a process to break down any sense of individuality I had. After awhile, I wouldn't hesitate to do anything he asked.

Q: Did the sex get rougher?

Oh God, yeah. He started fisting me every time we had sex. But he really started concentrating on my cock and balls, working them over for hours at a time.

He put pins into the head of my cock and into my sack. He attached clothespins up and down my cock and around my sack. The pain was pretty bad. He had to gag me to keep me from screaming.

Q: When did the idea of nullification come up?

Well, it wasn't nullification at first. He started talking about how I needed to make a greater commitment to him, to do something to show that I was dedicated to him for life.

When I asked him what he meant, he said that he wanted to take my balls.

Q: How did you respond?

Not very well at first. I told him that I liked being a man and didn't want to become a eunuch. But he kept at me, and wore me down. He reminded me that I agreed to be modified according to his wishes, and this is what he wanted for me. Anything less would show that I wasn't really committed to the relationship. And besides, I was a total bottom and didn't really need my balls.

It took about a week before I agreed to be castrated. But I wasn't happy about it, believe me.

Q: How did he castrate you?

Hemos had a friend, Zonk, who was into the eunuch scene. One night he came over with his bag of toys, and Hemos told me that this was it. I was gonna lose my nuts then and there.

Q: Did you think of resisting?

I did for a minute, but deep down I knew there was no way. I just didn't want to lose Hemos. I'd rather lose my balls.

Zonk restrained me on the living room floor while Hemos videotaped us. He used an elastrator to put a band around my sack.

Q: That must have really hurt.

Hell yeah. It's liked getting kicked in the balls over and over again. I screamed for him to cut the band off, but he just kept on going, putting more bands on me. I had four bands around my sack when he finished.

I was rolling around on the floor screaming, while Hemos just videotaped me. Eventually, my sack got numb and the pain subsided. I looked between my legs and could see my sack was a dark purple. I knew my balls were dying inside.

Hemos and his friend left the room and turned out the light. I lay there for hours, crying because I was turning into a eunuch and there wasn't anything I could do about it.

Q: What happened then?

Eventually I fell asleep from exhaustion. Then the light switched on and I could see Hemos's friend kneeling between my legs, touching my sack. I heard him tell Hemos that my balls were dead.

Q: How did Hemos react?

Very pleased. He bent down and felt around my sack. He said that it felt cold.

Zonk told me that I needed to keep the bands on. He said that eventually my balls and sack would dry up and fall off. I just nodded. What else could I do at that point?

Q: Did it happen just like Zonk said?

Yeah, a week or so later my package just fell off. Hemos put it in a jar of alcohol to preserve it. It's on the table next to his bed.

Q: How did things go after that?

Hemos was really loving to me. He kept saying how proud he was of me, how grateful that I had made the commitment to him. He even let me sleep in his bed.

Q: What about the sex?

We waited awhile after my castration, and then took it easy until I was completely healed. At first I was able to get hard, but as the weeks went by my erections began to disappear.

That pleased Hemos. He liked fucking me and feeling my limp cock. It made his dominance over me even greater.

Q: When did he start talking about making you a nullo?

A couple of months after he took my nuts. Our sex had gotten to be just as rough as before the castration. He really got off on torturing my cock. Then he started saying stuff like, "Why do you even need this anymore?"

That freaked me out. I always thought that he might someday take my balls, but I never imagined that he'd go all the way. I told him that I wanted to keep my dick.

Q: How did he react to that?

At first he didn't say much. But he kept pushing. Hemos said I would look so nice being smooth between my legs. He said my dick was small and never got hard anymore, so what was the point of having it.

But I still resisted. I wanted to keep my cock. I felt like I wouldn't be a man anymore without it.

Q: So how did he get you to agree?

He didn't. He took it against my will.

Q: How did that happen?

We were having sex in the basement, and I was tied up and bent over this wooden bench as he fucked me. Then I heard the doorbell ring. Hemos answered it, and he brought this guy into the room.

At first I couldn't see anything because of the way I was tied. But then I felt these hands lift me up and put me on my back. And I could see it was Zonk, the guy who took my nuts.

Q: How did you react?

I started screaming and crying, but the guy just gagged me. The two of them dragged me to the other side of the room where they tied me spread eagled on the floor.

Zonk snaked a catheter up my dick, and gave me a shot to numb my crotch. I was grateful for that, at least. I remember how bad it hurt to lose my balls.

Q: What was Hemos doing at this time?

He was kneeling next to me talking quietly. He said I'd be happy that they were doing this. That it would make our relationship better. That kind of calmed me down. I thought, "Well, maybe it won't be so bad."

Q: How long did the penectomy take?

It took awhile. Some of the penis is inside the body, so he had to dig inside to get all of it. There was a lot of stitching up and stuff. He put my cock in the same jar with my balls. You can even see the Prince Albert sticking out of the head.

Then they made me a new pisshole. It's between my asshole and where my sack used to be. So now I have to squat to piss.

Q: What has life been like since you were nullified?

After I got over the surgery and my anger, things got better. When I healed up, I began to like my smooth look. Hemos brought friends over and they all admired it, saying how pretty I looked. It made me feel good that Hemos was proud of me.

Q: Do you have any sexual feeling anymore?

Yes, my prostate still responds when Hemos fucks me or uses the buttplug. And my nipples are quite sensitive. If Hemos plays with them while fucking me, I have a kind of orgasm. It's hard to describe, but it's definitely an orgasm.

Sometimes Hemos says he's gonna have my prostate and nipples removed, but he's just kidding around. He's happy with what he's done to me.

Q: So are you glad Hemos had you nullified?

Well, I wouldn't say I'm glad. If I could, I'd like to have my cock and balls back. But I know that I'm a nullo forever. So I'm making the best of it.

Hemos and I are very happy. I know that he'll take care of me and we'll be together always. I guess losing my manhood was worth it to make that happen for us.

It it just me? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912163)

The project is designed to advance ideas all fronts, including measuring and understanding biological brains, creating AI systems, and investigating the fundamental nature of intelligence.

Why is it that the first application that I can think of for such project developed by DARPA is that to use it against the citizens?

Re:It it just me? (4, Interesting)

Xeth (614132) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912621)

I suspect that any assurances from me will mean little and less (you seem to have a well-defined opinion about what DARPA does and why), I think that the ideas I'm pursuing here are sufficiently general that it would be foolish to shy away from them on grounds that they might be used for some military application. You could say the very same about any advanced computing device.

Give me a break (5, Interesting)

Louis Savain (65843) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912637)

Why is it that the first application that I can think of for such project developed by DARPA is that to use it against the citizens?

Like it or lump it, you are in this boat with everyone else. If AI is solved, it will be used for good and evil. If your country does not use it for evil (extremely doubtful), somebody else's country will. Better yours than theirs. What I mean is that true AI will be an extremely powerful thing; if any country other than yours gets an early monopoly on AI, you can bet they are going to use it to kick your country's ass. I don't think you'd like that very much.

Having said that (and to get back on topic), I have been working on ageneral AI project called Animal [] for some time. Animal is biologically inspired. It attempts to uses a multi-layer spiking neural network to learn how to play chess from scratch using sensors, effectors and a motivation mechanism based on reward and punishment. It is based on the premise that intelligence is essentially a temporal signal-processing phenomenon [] . I just need some funding. The caveat is that my ideas are out there big time and there is a bunch of people in cyberspace who think I am kook. LOL. But hey, send me some money anyway. You never know. :-D

Modeling Conciousness: what do we do with AI? (-1, Flamebait)

mrkitty (584915) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912191)

I just started up this blog on AI you may find related/interesting. []

Re:Modeling Conciousness: what do we do with AI? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912527)

I just started up this blog on AI you may find related/interesting.

And I have a super-bitchin' first project for you -- build an AI which knows how to write coherently, knows how to use apostrophes correctly, all that basic communication kind of shit. When it's finished, pack up all your crap and turn over the keys to your Mom's basement to it.

Yea, lots (4, Funny)

mlwmohawk (801821) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912195)

Yea, I have lots of ideas and things I've been working on.

Fund me! :-)

Re:Yea, lots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912715)

Why don't you go fund yourself?

Don't get your hopes up about some mother funder.

DARPA turn to Slashdot? (5, Funny)

markybob (802458) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912197)

If DARPA is now so desperate as to seek out totally random and unknown readers of god the US is screwed.

Re:DARPA turn to Slashdot? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912215)

"If DARPA is now so desperate as to seek out totally random and unknown readers of god the US is screwed."

Dont' be an idiot genius and smarts reside in unexpected places. I'm sure many slashdotters have come across some very smart people.

Re:DARPA turn to Slashdot? (1)

edwebdev (1304531) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912219)

If DARPA is now so desperate as to seek out totally random and unknown readers of slashdot...
... in a completely open and public forum, no less.

Re:DARPA turn to Slashdot? (1)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912359)

Yes. Next thing you know they will be running competitions will million dollar prizes.

Re:DARPA turn to Slashdot? (1)

edwebdev (1304531) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912453)

Haha, fair enough. I forgot about things like the DARPA Grand Challenge for a second there. And the fact that DARPA funds some of the chemistry research I'm doing. Sorry DARPA.

Re:DARPA turn to Slashdot? (1)

captinkid (1224428) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912623)

I, for one, welcome our new Slashdot begging, DARPA released AI overlords.

Re:DARPA turn to Slashdot? (1)

stor (146442) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912873)

If DARPA is now so desperate as to seek out totally random and unknown readers of god the US is screwed.
Huh? Slashdot is the most appropriate place on the Internet to search for Artificial Intelligence.


Dear Slashdot... (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912207)

Dear Slashdot, please do my homework for me.

The second one in a week [] .

Re:Dear Slashdot... (5, Interesting)

Xeth (614132) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912363)

As if I didn't see that coming? I think my UID says I've been here awhile.

It's not that I'm asking Slashdot to do my work for me; I've already got some very strong leads to work on. However, Slashdot occasionally surprises me with people that are thoughtful and working in interesting fields, so I figured I'd give it a shot. Most of the changes in my life have come from sudden and unexpected directions; I wanted to see what serendipity might bring me that deliberation would not.

Re:Dear Slashdot... (3, Funny)

Chirs (87576) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912435)

As if I didn't see that coming? I think my UID says I've been here awhile.
You're only allowed to say that if you have a 5-digit or less uid. :)

Re:Dear Slashdot... (2, Funny)

chinakow (83588) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912553)

You're only allowed to say that if you have a 5-digit or less uid. :)

Exactly, now all we need is someone to make us look like newbies.

Re:Dear Slashdot... (2, Interesting)

M1000 (21853) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912759)

Exactly, now all we need is someone to make us look like newbies.

It could be worse ;-)

Re:Dear Slashdot... (1)

mrroot (543673) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912443)

I think my UID says I've been here awhile.

You're going "old timer" with a 6-digit UID?

Won't be long now until a real old timer comes along and tells you to get off their lawn.

Re:Dear Slashdot... (5, Funny)

Vairon (17314) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912493)

Why back in my day we had to post questions to the legs of carrier pigeons. Gosh darn it! We liked it that way!

Re:Dear Slashdot... (5, Funny)

Crafack (16264) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912867)

You had pigeons?

Paper and pigeons! What'll be the next? A magical tablet that translates your handwaving to images of the Wonders of the Worlds? Pah!

In my day, we had to write the questions using cuneiform script on a damp clay tablet, pack it in an envelope of clay, and then deliver it personally to the priesthood.


Re:Dear Slashdot... (1)

rathinam (94705) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912555)

Give the guy a break. He's not talking *for* DARPA since he's a consultant, and is asking for ideas that he might miss by doing traditional searching - which is a completely valid point, especially in the leading edge fields DARPA deals with. I have come across, more than once, work of significance at unexpected places - even though it was before the Internet because very popular. There may still be isolated instances of interesting and useful work done - the isolation being unintentional, intentional or strong or weak.

Re:Dear Slashdot... (3, Funny)

kfort (1132) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912687)

I'll just post this and wait for one of the 3 digits that only stick around for these threads to show up.

Re:Dear Slashdot... (1)

Falstius (963333) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912521)

I wanted to see what serendipity might bring me that deliberation would not
Or ... you just wanted an excuse to read Slashdot at work.

The problem with asking for cool ideas that aren't in the literature yet, is that anyone who works in the field and is smart will keep them to themselves until they've had a chance to publish. Anyone who doesn't work in the field is likely to throw out ideas that sound cool and were rejected years ago as being unworkable. So in the end you're looking for a monkey typing Shakespeare.

Of course, this is Slashdot. There are certainly plenty of typing monkeys.

Re:Dear Slashdot... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912653)

It's completely understandable that you'd want to tap into Slashdot's brain trust.

However, under the present circumstances, nobody trusts the current administration to act responsibly with any technology. I am eternally grateful to DARPA for helping make the Internet a reality, but many of us feel that if the Internet were a DARPA project today, it would be shelved in favor of some other project involving ways in which non-white people can be efficiently nullified so their resources can be stolen. No responsible scientist in the field of AI is going to further the efforts of today's military, who don't even have the balls to stand up to their commander in chief while he's shitting all over everyone's Constitutional rights. People in the military these days need to re-examine the oath they took, and change their priorities before they can expect significant cooperation with the scientific community.

Re:Dear Slashdot... (1)

TheLink (130905) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912709)

One of my theories is brains predict possible futures (by modelling reality in parallel), and consciousness is what happens when a brain recursively tries to simulate and predict itself.

There are already plenty of nonhuman intelligences around (see your local pet store). And how we handle them is not that great.

I personally am not sure if creation of AI will be a big benefit to humans in the long term. Perhaps augmentation of humans or animals would be more useful.

Given it's DARPA, examples of augmentation would be adding sensors and preprocessors that do automatic weapon detection and recognition (highlighting gun muzzles in undergrowth), "crack thump" calculation to locate snipers after they shoot, and so on.

Answer to the fundamental nature of intelligence (1, Funny)

mauddib~ (126018) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912231)

Ah, the answer to the fundamental nature of intelligence is, of course, 42 (as has been calculated before). However, we're still searching for the answer (plus the answer to life, the universe and everything).

DUDE! Sorry... (4, Funny)

edwebdev (1304531) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912233)

... I had a totally sweet aritifical intelligence lead, but I already told China about it, and they said I shouldn't tell anyone else.


Games (2, Insightful)

garphik (996984) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912235)

Games? It is the best scratch pad for AI experiments.

Whatever you do... (2, Funny)

ark1 (873448) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912237)

don't call it Skynet.

Re:Whatever you do... (2, Interesting)

edwebdev (1304531) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912273)

Too late - the British already did that [] .

Bad grammar day (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912253)

The project is designed to advance ideas all fronts

but I wanted to know if any in this community know
What the fuck is this? Bad grammar day? This is like the third article today that has had glaring grammatical mistakes. Hopefully whatever your researching can be applied to develop a better understanding of grammatical semantics in the Slashdot editor bots.

I'll also be reading the comments for the story.
Also, who reads the comments?

Re:Bad grammar day (4, Funny)

giminy (94188) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912473)

Hopefully whatever your researching ...

Re:Bad grammar day (1)

Miseph (979059) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912641)

"Also, who reads the comments?"

Well... you, apparently. And I thought nobody ever RTFA, not RTFC.

An obvious one. (4, Informative)

v(*_*)vvvv (233078) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912289)

numeta []

It's mainly a teaching + learning system for a system with input and output. I don't see anything built with it answering any rational questions or coming up with new ideas anytime soon, but if you do AI and don't know about them, you better catch up.

Re:An obvious one. (5, Informative)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912409)

I think the Deep Belief Networks of Hinton et al are way ahead of Numenta.. in that they are real science with measurable results that has been reproduced by multiple implementations. The 2006 paper that started it all and Hinton's presentation on google video: [] []

A formal analysis: []

Application to natural language processing: [] []

Reproducing Hinton and extension to and evaluation in other domains: []

Use in Computer animation of facial expressions: []

Most impressive: []

A C++ implementation (although it has much Python love): []

So yeah, there's some pretty good demonstrations of how powerful DBNs are.. Numenta is lagging behind.

OpenCog (4, Informative)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912299)

Re:OpenCog (1)

dougsha (247714) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912535)

I second opencog. They have an active and growing community.

From the home page:

"What is OpenCog?

The Open Cognition Framework (OpenCog) is software for the collaborative development of safe and beneficial Artificial General Intelligence.

OpenCog provides research scientists and software developers with a common platform to build and share artificial intelligence programs. The framework includes:

        * a flexible and highly optimized in-memory database for knowledge representation,
        * a plug-in architecture for cognitive algorithms and a cognitive process scheduler,
        * a built-in LISP-like programming language, and
        * other components to support artificial intelligence research and development.

Programs written or adapted for OpenCog may be combined and used in concert with one another for experimentation or to achieve better results compared to their stand-alone counterparts. "

Re:OpenCog (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912771)

I'm suspicious of the whole AGI movement. I would like to see some kind of theoretical results to guess whether what they are doing really will work.

And I don't mean whether we can create a true strong AI. I don't doubt that it is possible.

What I mean is that the AGI community has several possible architectures worked out. I've read some of the papers that Goertzel, Pei Wang, a2i2 has put out and I'm not convinced. They've even written some kind of code but Goertzel alone has gone through a few startups with no discernable results. Perhaps they are there but since these are all commercial enterprises much of it is proprietary and remains hidden.

I can understand how AGI might not get university funding, however, there needs to be open-ness about how this is coming together and what the results are.

I'm excited by the singularity after reading Kurzweil's book but I'm tired of reading, listening about it and would much rather start creating it.

I'm not totally impressed with OpenCog since AGI-Sim, opencog's predecessor, seemed to go dormant.

All I want is some proof. Is that so hard?

Re:OpenCog (2, Informative)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912893)

All I want is some proof. Is that so hard?
No, and you're right to ask for it. Skepticism is healthy.

There's three main components to OpenCog:

  * The architecture
  * The Probabilistic Logic Network algorithm
  * The competent generic algorithms system (MOSES)

and it is openly admitted that this isn't enough.. some sub-symbolic algorithms will be needed to complement all this "neat" (although probabilistically weighted) work.

And then hanging on the side is all the Natural Language Processing stuff, and the embodied simulation stuff, both of which are meant to generate interesting input for OpenCog to process.

To date, the PLN algorithm hasn't not been made public, although that could change in the next month. The MOSES stuff is public, but not integrated yet. The Natural Language Processing stuff is written in Java (the rest of the framework is written in C++) and this won't change as the XML interfaces between the two are sufficiently powerful that there is just no need.

Probably not until September 2008 or later will all these parts start coming together.. and it'll likely be well into next year before something "impressive" can be demoed without outright cheating. Then, hopefully, things will take off. But who knows. We have to wait and see and optimistic predictions do more harm than good.

Hi (3, Funny)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912301)

I'm a consultant from Slashdot. For a low fee, I can point you towards research materials to save you the time and effort of doing it yourself, and if you elect to pay for the premium service, I also guarantee that all provided materials are not fake. Send me an email and we'll see where it goes :)

Re:Hi (3, Funny)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912325)

And here I was, thinking that everyone from the Anderson fallout already had a new job...

Johnny 5 (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912329)

I don't have a project, but I have a question for you, is Johnny 5 really alive?

Applications more then Research.... (1)

Bytal (594494) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912341)

It would be great to hear of any interesting original research. It seems to me that most of the news in this space are more about applications of already well known ideas rather then new well publicized developments.

The 'Semantic Web' companies that are springing up all over like Twine, AdaptiveBlue, etc. are the best examples. They seem to be using some basic NLP, classifiers and statistical models to provide various services on the web. This may not be cutting edge artificial intelligence research but, in my opinion, wide spread, highly visible innovation in the field can often inspire more people to pursue the truly hard and import hard science research.

As somebody already mentioned, check games... (1)

sitarlo (792966) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912345)

But, keep in mind that artificial intelligence is still well... artificial.

Funding (1)

enoz (1181117) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912373)

It looks like DARPA is trying new methods [] to get some more funding.

Blue Brain (2, Informative)

Usquebaugh (230216) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912395)

Take a look at the project []

Blue Brain: missing an ingredient (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912635)

Blue Brain, like several other projects of that nature, is missing an essential ingredient: although the machines have enough power to simulate large chunks of brain, at this point these simulation don't actually do anything useful. Without a good learning algorithm that works like biological learning, you can't make Blue Brain do vision, audition, or motor control.

Artificial? (0, Troll)

aitikin (909209) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912423)

Why are we looking for Artificial Intelligence when we haven't found real intelligence?

A problem, divided (4, Interesting)

Lije Baley (88936) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912431)

You've got to quit trying to advance on separate fronts. People have been exploring and reinventing the same old niches for sixty years. Little has changed except for the availability of powerful hardware with which to realize these disconnected bits and pieces. What is needed is a way to bring the many different segments of the AI and robotic communities together, because the solution is not to find the "winning approach", but to realize the value of the various perspectives and combine efforts. This is not a new idea, it is an old one which apparently just doesn't fit into the established research environments. Go to the library and read some old books on AI if you really want an appreciation of how pathetic the progress of ideas (not hardware) has been. To whet your appetite try some of Marvin Minsky's old papers - [] He recognized this situation nearly 40 years ago. AI (1)

lonester23 (1123115) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912459)

The IM/ Chat service [] has developed some AI technology. The technology is disguised as a person and can answer random questions that it is asked. For example... Question: Do you like hotdogs? Response: First it is all about the dog not the topping.

Wrong tree (1, Insightful)

vandan (151516) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912467)

As I read the blurb, I immediately thought of a list of readings by extremely well-respected biologists on the nature of consciousness that would serve as an excellent starting point.

But should I help out DARPA? I don't think so. Someone else can help you kill people, poison the environment, and support the growing neo-con empire.

Re:Wrong tree (1)

icepick72 (834363) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912491)

Well now, don't you feel better.

Re:Wrong tree (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912609)

But should I help out DARPA? I don't think so. Someone else can help you kill people, poison the environment, and support the growing neo-con empire.

Yeah, they can go to Hell and take their fucking internet with them.

Bull. (0)

pXgray (464284) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912469)

This is the most BS story I have ever seen on Slashdot.

revised Turing Test (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912483)

Given today's technology and what we know now, can you think of an appropriate successor for Turing's Test? Hopefully something elegant, although it probably won't be nearly as succinct. Implicit in the question, of course, is "what do we mean when we talk about AI?"

This could help drive research over the next twenty years because it would give people something to shoot for; or at least until it comes time to move the goalposts again.

Serious slashvertisement campaign (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912501)

Is it just me, but it seems that DARPA is pretending to do viral advertisement in Slashdot for some time now. Many stories. I am getting a bit annoyed.

Statistical models on EEG versus implants (1)

Sybert42 (1309493) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912503)

Often here we have breathless stories about the latest input device to use EEG-type information from the user. The reality is that the information is very noisy. I looked at my EEG from a sleep study--it is nearly completely white noise, especially compared to eye and leg traces. What do we gain by implanting close to the brain? By having more sensors? Ironically, the analysis of very incomplete brain data might itself call for and aid in the study of intelligence.

Basics..... (1)

IHC Navistar (967161) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912531)

Why doesn't the Government start wokrng on making Congress work?

Oh, wait..... They already are robots.

Re:Basics..... (1)

Vectronic (1221470) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912581)

Why do you think he needs better AI? they aren't currently acting very human, a lot of us don't believe they are.

Dear Friend (5, Funny)

trainsnpep (608418) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912537)

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True AI won't happen until... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912543)

True "artificial" intelligence won't happen until we have computers that include quantum uncertainty into calculations. I use quotes around "artificial" because what I'm talking about is real intelligence that is not artificial in any way other than being hosted by a computer instead of a biological brain.

Most of the research these days in the field of computing that includes quantum uncertainty has been focused on building quantum logic gates. I suppose that is one way, but I think it is short-sighted and includes many perils that may be impossible to overcome.

Why must an intelligent computer include quantum uncertainty? Without quantum uncertainty, a computer is nothing more than an automaton. Its logic will always be determinate. A determinate automaton cannot be creative, due to its necessarily determinate results. A determinate machine cannot have "free will", something I consider to be a prerequisite for intelligence. Of course, if one believes that human intelligence arises from nothing other than neurons firing, and not from some external "soul", and that "free will" necessarily means that the results are not predictable, then the only conclusion that I can conclude is that the brain's neurons embrace quantum uncertainty as part of the process of creating intelligent thought.

Want to create a computer that includes quantum uncertainty? Look closely at asynchronous computing. Another field that includes something that looks like (or may actually be) quantum uncertainty is massively parallel computing, where network latency between nodes is inherently indeterminate. Of course, in both these fields, current work centers around how to stabilize the uncertainty, by using exit conditions for asynchronous computing (I guess--asynchronous computing isn't something I know too much about), or through locking and synchronization models like two-phase commit. All this does is take this uncertainty and stabilize and eliminate it, for the purposes of determinate computing. Truly intelligent computers, I posit, won't try to eliminate uncertainty to create deterministic behavior; it will embrace uncertainty and utilize non-deterministic behavior to create intelligence. Uncertainty is the key to intelligence.

Re:True AI won't happen until... (1)

The Mayor (6048) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912587)

Shit, forgot to log in before posting. There. Oh, and for all of you young folk that think your ID is low, no, it isn't. Mine isn't even low. I forgot the login credentials for my first acct (in the 100s). Damn.

Re:True AI won't happen until... (1)

The Mayor (6048) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912593)

Er, my post was the "True AI won't happen until...". Seems I'm not too intelligent, myself, sometimes.

AI should fix mistakes, not make them. (2, Interesting)

Kainaw (676073) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912551)

For many decades, there has been a push to have an AI that acts just like a human. In other words, it makes rash decisions, based on bad anecdotes and stereotypes, full of mistakes, and then tries to rationalize that everything was planned with intelligence.

AI should understand the failings of human intelligence and fix it. For example, I have the sad job of normalizing health data. Every day, I dread coming into work and going through another million or so prescriptions. Doctors and nurses seem to continually find new ways to screw up what should be a very simple job: What is the name of the medication? What is the dosage? How often should it be taken? When should the prescription start? When should it end? How many refills/extensions on the prescription are allowed before a new prescription must be written? Instead of something reasonable like: "Coreg 20mg. Every evening. 2008-06-10 to 2006-07-10. 5 Refills." -- I get: "Correk 20qd. 10/6/08x5." It seems to me that some form of AI could learn how stupid humans are and easily make sense of the garbage. Of course, there's no reason the AI couldn't replace the doctor and write the prescriptions itself in a very nice normalized form.

Re:AI should fix mistakes, not make them. (1)

icegreentea (974342) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912613)

I thought the idea of having an AI working like a human (strong AI anyways) was not so it can have all the flaws we have, but so we can have a conscious machine. We are the conscious beings that we know the best, so conscious and human-like becomes largely the same thing.

That being said, standardizing human behavior is possible. The easiest way is to set up a standard form for prescriptions with nice fields for name, type, dosage, and etc, and then adding a nice 'other' field just in case. You know, just like how all those forms with dates have those nice little DD/MM/YYYY labels (or whatever system is correct).

No. (2, Insightful)

God of Lemmings (455435) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912557)

Maybe you're working on a project like that and want to talk it up?
Not under this administration.

Re:No. (1)

mabu (178417) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912579)

I agree. But at the same time I understand why they're asking. The current administration seems to have depleted its supply of natural intelligence.

not for DARPA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912565)

With all due respect, if I have any AI projects, sharing that information with DARPA would be very low on my list.

A few leading groups (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912575)

This is an area with lots of crackpots, but also lots of really interesting stuff.

How do you tell the good stuff from the crackpot?

The good ones are published in top machine learning, computer vision, robotics, and AI conferences and journal. The crackpot stuff doesn't survive peer review.

Here are a few good examples:
- Geff Hinton (U. Toronto): []
- Yoshua Bengio (U. Montreal: []
- Yann LeCun (NYU): []
- Andrew Ng (Stanford): []
- Sebastian Seung (MIT): []
- David Lowe (U British Columbia): []

You need better computer vision (4, Interesting)

CrazyJim1 (809850) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912597)

My AI page which has several links that go deeper to older write ups is at []

Basically I say that the better computer vision you make, the better software you can write advanced bots leading up to AI. I see AI as being something we'll naturally get to even if no one makes an effort to it: Our 3d cards are getting better, video games are making better 3d worlds, memory is getting bigger, and computer speeds are getting faster. Even if you couldn't hold AI on a current computer's memory, you have wireless internet that links up with a supercomputer to make thin client bots. So there really isn't anything in current technology that is holding us back except computer vision.

Now I am not so good in the computer vision field, but as I see it(excuse pun), there are two ways to do vision.

1) Exact matching. You model an object in 3d via CAD, a Pixar style, or using Video Trace [] First you database all the objects that your AI will see in its environment then you make a program that identifies objects it "sees" with computer cameras and laser range finding devices. So then the AI can reconstruct its environment in its head. Then the AI can perceive doing actions on the objects.

I'm currently not in the loop here. I can't talk to anyone at Video Trace because I'm just a person, and they don't want to let me in on their software. So I can't database my desk. So I can't make the program that would identify things.

2) Even better than exact matching is similar matching. No two people look alike besides twins, so you can't really just database in a person and say that is a human. And as humans go, there are different categories such as male and female, and some are androgynous so we can't tell their sex. Similar matching has a lot of potential in its ability to detect things like trees and rocks. Similar matching is good at an environment that is tougher to put into exact matching situations. So just from this information alone, I wouldn't start on similar matching unless you had exact matching working in a closed environment. I'm not saying that some smart individual couldn't come up with similar matching before exact matching. I'm just saying that for myself, I'd start with exact matching, and then extend it with similar matching. There are a lot of clues you can pick up on if you know exact locations of things.

And then once you have singular location vision working, you can add multi point vision working. Multi point vision would mean that if you had more robotic eyes on a scene that you'd gain more detail about it. You could even get as advanced as conflict resolution when one robotic eye thinks it sees something, but another thinks it is something different. The easiest way to think of a good application for this would be if you had a robotic car driving behind a normal semi trick and another robotic car infront of the semi. The robotic car in the back can't see past the semi to guess traffic conditions of when the semi will slow down, but the car in front of the truck can see well, so they can signal to each other information that would let the car in behind the semi truck follow closer. If you get enough eyes out there, you could really start to put together a big virtual map of the world to track people.

I wouldn't say AI that learns like humans is desirable. After all, you'd have to code in trusting algorithms to know who to listen to. I'd say AI that downloads its knowledge from a reliable source is the way to go. It is easy to see: Sit in class for years until you learn a skill, or download it all at once like Neo on training seat.

Anyway, you can do a lot with robots that have good computer vision. Thething that has to be done next is natural language understanding. So far we've discussed the AI viewing a snap shot of a scene and being able to identify the objects. Next you'll have to introduce verbs and moving. While the body that you give the robot will limit what sort of actions it can do, the body is not as much of importance as much as the AI's ability to identify other bodies and their capabilities. So the first thing AI should be able to do is database all the verbs that a human can do. Then database in all the verbs that other objects can do. With a large database of nouns and verbs, you can then add in the other words like adjectives and adverbs. Once you have natural language understood, you can do some amazing things such as translate languages correctly and turn books into movies by just using the book as an input for the AI. You can even customize the book to movie translator by inserting your own text about the book. Some pretty amazing stuff is right around the corner for AI.

I applied to DARPA just a little bit ago when Slashdot posted a story for it. I figure I could get paid a little and do something like make AI a reality. I think we have the resources now, but just no one has sat down and made the code. My biggest hurdle to overcome is getting Video Trace for my computer. I can't do much of anything without it. The old attempts at AI failed because they never tried to create a 3d world to imagine scenes. If I had Video Trace to database in a lot of objects, most anyone(myself included) could write the software that identifies the objects in video to a 3d imagination space. Anyway, read my page and go into the deeper links about it because I get in depth. Or email me at

Implement the research! (3, Interesting)

CoolGuySteve (264277) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912605)

I recently threw together a prototype for my company using OpenCV. That OpenCV exists for this sort of thing is a godsend. One of our interns recently completed a UI research project that also relied on OpenCV.

But one of the problems I had while doing it was that whenever I searched for more documentation about the algorithms I was trying to write, all I could find where either papers describing how some researcher's system was better than mine, or some magic MATLAB code that worked on a small set of test images. There were no solid implementations written in C for any of these systems.

I would love to dick around for weeks implementing all these research papers and then evaluating their results and real world performance, but I don't think my boss or my company's shareholders would enjoy that. Like every company, resources are limited for something that isn't making money.

With that said, the best way to further AI research, particularly in the highly marketable fields of machine learning and computer vision (but probably others as well), is to add implementations of cutting edge research to existing BSD-licensed libraries like OpenCV for companies to evaluate. If products that use that research become profitable, private companies are likely to throw a lot more money and researchers at the problem, all competing to one-up the other.

If you think I'm being unrealistic, you should check out the realtime face detection that recent Cannon cameras use for autofocus. Once upon a time, object recognition was considered a cutting edge AI problem.

Neuromorphic computing with Bacteriorhodopsin (1)

charles-m (685375) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912611)

Some time ago I actually did some minor work in this field, as one of my post-docs. The idea was to emulate a portion of the edge detection/image enhancement features of the retina by trying to assemble a bacteriorhodopsin thin film onto a CCD camera/silicon substrate This is quite old work but I believe there is still some active work in this area. The original reference is in the edition Proceedings of the Pacific Symposium on Biocomputing 1997: [] Some of these proceedings are available on Google Books. I can't seem to find the 1997 one but it may be there. I can send it to you if that is helpful.

I'm working on my Ph.D. in AI (3, Interesting)

Theovon (109752) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912617)

Let's see.... what I'm working on....

Pure pareto multiobjective genetic algorithms (just submitted a paper to IEEE TEVC)
Hinge-loss function discriminative training of neural nets as classifiers
Computer vision as a KNOWLEDGE problem (i.e. not just mostly signal processing and statistics)
Persistent surveillance (entity tracking)
Sensor asset allocation (using a GA)
Various things involving abductive inference []

You could always check out... (1)

htnprm (176191) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912629)

Eidolon A.I. TLP. :)

Marvin Minsky (1)

stoicio (710327) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912633)

Why not ask Marvin Minsky.
I learned a lot by reading his stuff.
I disagree with some of the limits he puts on things but he certainly has the behavioural
aspects categorized.

He probably knows some bright prospects.

It'd be nice to see Marvin's site slashdotted... []

Artifical Intelligence as a fundemental error (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912743)

AI development over the years has focused on what an intelligence can do, not what a lifeform is. A lifeform is not its decision capabilities, morality, self-awareness, computational skills, creativity, memory, individuality, etc.

At the most basic level, a lifeform is something that has the ability to experience reality automously and as an independent entity distinct from the reality in which it is contained or composed from. That's it, just the ability to experience.

This is the source of the fundemental error made by every person who has pursued the illusion of AI. The failure to recognise that life is built from the components provided by reality and that the ability to experience is not an illusion generated at runtime due to electro-biological circuitry, but the result of interfacing aspects of the universe's physical composition.

Life cannot appear in a universe that is not alive itself at a fundemental level.

Do you really want to wake it up?

Everyone's heard of HAL, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912781)

but just wait until you see MegaHAL [] !

Very un-DARPA (1)

Device666 (901563) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912803)

"No promises (seriously), but interesting work will be brought to the attention of the project manager I'm working with."

Does your manager even know about this post on Slashdot? This must be at the least a very unusual way for DARPA to acquire information. I have doubts about the seriousness of your post.

Do it in hardware (1)

CopaceticOpus (965603) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912809)

I hear that AI is only about 15 years away, so you could try just waiting until then. Unfortunately, that estimate hasn't changed for 30 years.

Given the slow progress in AI research, I think a radical approach is in order. I doubt that we'll see any breakthroughs from a small crew of programmers with quad cores and c++.

The human brain is a massively parallel, self-reconfiguring network of nodes. How far have we come in building any sort of scalable technology that can operate in such a manner? I know there are projects to try and reverse engineer brains from creatures of various intelligences. But even if we succeed in getting the basic blueprint of a simple brain, how would we go about building it? Because of this, I would lean towards funding projects that are developing new kinds of hardware inspired by the brain's design. Without currently unheard-of levels of parallelization, advanced AI may not even be physically possible.

Matrix Logic (3, Interesting)

Darth Cider (320236) | more than 6 years ago | (#23912821)

The Matrix Logic series of books by August Stern should give you some ideas. Maybe DARPA has the resources to test if isospin of oxygen is really the basis of intelligence, as Stern considers plausible, due to the vector basis of "logicspace." Look for that missing particle predicted by logic groups while you're at it. I don't know why those books aren't cited more, or why symbolic logic is still taught as it always has been, when matrix logic makes things so much clearer and more consistent. The vector approach to logic can also replace standard programming structures in everyday code. Instead of if-then or case structures, querying a truth table or testing for equivalence term by term--the usual practice in conventional logic, too--a matrix multiplication can calculate the answer directly, if the terms are properly conceptualized. The books are easy to read, too, very clear and straightforward. Everybody oughta check em out.

University of Tulsa (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23912831)

The University of Tulsa has several projects involving AI and evolutionary programming. You should look up Dr. Roger Wainwright or Dr. Rose Gamble.

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