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Only One Quarter of the Planet To Be Online By 2012

CmdrTaco posted more than 6 years ago | from the that's-not-really-that-much dept.

The Internet 206

Stony Stevenson writes "Researchers are predicting that one quarter of the world's population will be connected to the internet within the next four years. According to the report by Jupiter Research, the total number of people online will climb to 1.8 billion by 2012, encompassing roughly 25 percent of the planet. The company sees the highest growth rates in areas such as China, Russia, India and Brazil. Overall, the number of users online is predicted to grow by 44 percent in the time period between 2007 and 2012." Is it just me or does that seem incredibly small?

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It may be small... (4, Insightful)

scubamage (727538) | more than 6 years ago | (#23947927)

It does seem small, but you have to consider that most of the world doesn't live up to 'industrialized' and 'information age' standards of living. Its actually a pretty incredible number.

Re:It may be small... (5, Insightful)

defnoz (1128875) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948017)

In other news, 1/3 of the world's population don't have access to clean water and/or enough food. If only they could write about it in their blag.

Re:It may be small... (5, Interesting)

damburger (981828) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948403)

OK, I'm going to go completely outside the box for a moment and risk getting mocked for this, but what the hell...

What if we did get people without food and clean water online?

There is enough clean water for everyone. There is enough food for everyone. It isn't getting to the people that need it for various reasons; corruption, war, market failures. The common thread in these is a lack of correct information; corruption involves people deliberately misrepresenting information, war makes it dangerous to collect information, and market failures are normally trigged by bad information.

Areas where people starve are normally pretty opaque to information and that makes it harder to help people. If we were to give people in these areas better means of communication might it help allocate resources to solving the problems of food, water etc? It would be similar to how mobile phones were used to let the world know what was happening in Burma not long ago. Better information means better action.

Re:It may be small... (2, Interesting)

scubamage (727538) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948605)

Well you also have to worry about warlords intercepting food shipments. Or people being afraid of food shipments (especially from the US) because they would use packaging designed to look exactly like unexploded bomblets. So a starving person had just as much of a chance of blowing themselves up as getting some poptarts. There is misinformation, but there are also a lot of powerplays with fear that are well known.

Re:It may be small... (3, Interesting)

damburger (981828) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948721)

Civilians in areas requiring aid could, if they were connected, report the movement of warlords (and as often, government troops) that might interrupt food shipments. Having lines of communication could also provide a way of verifying the contents of packages.

Re:It may be small... (3, Insightful)

westlake (615356) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949727)

Civilians in areas requiring aid could...report the movement of warlords...that might interrupt food shipments.

How do you keep the lines of communications open against the opposition of either the local warlord or whoever represents legitimate - centralized - authority? It can shorten your life to be in possession of a radio. The mesh network has the potential to expose everyone who is part of the mesh.

Re:It may be small... (1, Insightful)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948645)

Yeah, great idea. Then the world's population would EXPLODE. What we really need to do is fill up thousands of crop dusters with contraceptives and start spraying. Either that, or genetically engineer a human-terminator virus (preferably, several, so as to reduce the chances of a cure being found) and release it. That's the only thing that can save the entire planet and its biosphere. IMPROVING conditions for humans will not help the situation one bit.

Re:It may be small... (2, Interesting)

T-Bone-T (1048702) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948861)

How do you propose we get Internet access to these people? We can't even get food or water to them. You listed corruption, war, and market failures as reasons for that but then you ignore them when you start talking about the Internet. Food and water don't need much infrastructure for transport, just people. Unfortunately, the Internet doesn't work like that.

Re:It may be small... (1)

damburger (981828) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948981)

I'm not talking about laying down fibre optic broadband. I am talking about anything which can provide a means to get information out. In Burma, it was mobile phones.

I don't have an exact technical solution in mind, but it isn't outside the realms of possibility. The military set up very advanced communication networks swiftly in hostile situations. Why can't the same techniques be used in peacetime?

Yes, deploying such things would hit the same problems as deploying food and water - but the advantage being that the more you deployed it the easier it would get, as it would get easier to send in everything else that was needed.

Re:It may be small... (3, Insightful)

T-Bone-T (1048702) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949903)

You are right about the military being able to set up advanced communications in a war zone but I doubt those systems are meant to stay for very long. It is a noble goal, but there are goals that should be reached first. The Internet is a luxury, not a basic necessity. Once the basic necessities are taken care of in a place, only then can we consider helping them acquire luxuries.

Re:It may be small... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23949097)

Well, we all know what happened when we gave Nigeria the internet...

Re:It may be small... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23949853)

The stuff in Burma is still happening.

Re:It may be small... (3, Insightful)

Anne_Nonymous (313852) | more than 6 years ago | (#23950197)

>> What if we did get people without food and clean water online?

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Re:It may be small... (-1, Troll)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948419)

"In other news, 1/3 of the world's population don't have access to clean water and/or enough food. If only they could write about it in their blag."

I've heard it said before...and it makes sense. If you live somewhere where food and water is scarce....MOVE to where the fucking food and water are!!!!

Re:It may be small... (2, Interesting)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948539)

Chances are there are already people who are living where the food and water are, and they will shoot you (or confine you to a refugee camp) if you try to move there and compete for those resources.

Re:It may be small... (2, Interesting)

daveatneowindotnet (1309197) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948545)

Two problems jump to mind. First refugees aren't often treat well. See Zimbabwians (sp?) in South Africa. Second people without clean water are rarely in an economic situation which enables picking up and moving.

Re:It may be small... (1)

scubamage (727538) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949035)

See also Palastinians. A large part of the world thinks they're these evil except those who understand they're basically living out the exact same story as the native Americans. Displaced over and over and over again to the point of desperation, despite numerous signed treaties and land partitions by the US, Israel, and the UN to protect them. All of this courtesy of a certain UN Security Council member's liberal usage of its veto rights to ensure nothing punitive ever gets done to its favorite toy nation Israel.

Re:It may be small... (2, Insightful)

IWannaBeAnAC (653701) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948719)

They try to, but most countries discourage (at the point of a gun) such mass immigration. What do you think would happen if 2 billion poor people tried to enter the USA? Firstly, how would they get there? Secondly, would the USA let them in?

Re:It may be small... (5, Insightful)

benwiggy (1262536) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948803)

I think you fail to understand how difficult it is to move out of the sort of extreme and dire poverty that persists in the world.
Try moving to a more abundant farming area, whose inhabitants look upon you as an outsider who is muscling in on their scarce resources.
Try moving from a rural existence, where your food comes from your labours, to the city, where you must buy your food with money. (Where unskilled labour is dirt cheap.
Try getting a passport without spending a large amount of money.
Try getting a visa to Europe or US if you come from Africa.

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes.

Re:It may be small... (5, Funny)

Cro Magnon (467622) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948919)

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes.

Interesting saying. I'd guess most of those people don't even have shoes.

Re:It may be small... (1)

benwiggy (1262536) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949165)

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes.

Interesting saying. I'd guess most of those people don't even have shoes.

That shows how harshly judged they are: so many people have borrowed their shoes to walk in.

But the OLPC was supposed to save them!!! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23948455)

Obama's new anthem:

Rip Van Winkle sleepin' nigga woke up and became a G but ya' still don't impress the E.Z.

Re:It may be small... (1)

2.7182 (819680) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948489)

Dead on! I think this just shows how oblivious some people are to how poor the world is in general compared to US etc.

Re:It may be small... (1)

OpenSourceNut (1136825) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948839)

I'm in India right now.. sitting here checking Slashdot. Outside there are people living in makeshift tents.. they are day laborers working in construction. They have nothing. Most people live like this... no toilet paper.. no showers.. nothing like what Americans consider basic needs. Most of the world lives like this.

Re:It may be small... (1)

mjpaci (33725) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949437)

I don't have the statistics, but you need to also consider what % of the population has access to reliable electricity. It's a little annoying to me that people are focused on getting people online when other, more basic services should be addressed first. Being online actually costs money.

Also, what % of the world's population WANTS to be online. Living in the US and having access to non-dialup since 1998 and dialup since 1994, I find it weird that my better half's brother in Germany (non city, not Wyoming-like-rural, kind of like living in the suburbs of Harrisburg, PA) not only isn't online, but doesn't even own a computer. He's 35 years-old and makes a good wage as a technical drawer. He spends his free time rebuilding old cars and fire engines. He occasionally has the need to research parts for these vehicles, so he calls his sister (my better half) in Massachusetts to lookup parts online for him or to order him a parts catalog. To him, being online is a nice-to-have, not a necessity. His approach is baffling to me. I always pictured Germany as a land of plugged-in people who just happen to be the masters of thrift and frugality.

--mike

Re:It may be small... (4, Insightful)

aurispector (530273) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948055)

Seriously! Doesn't anyone read the news? Most of the world's population lives in abject poverty compared to western standards. All you need to is see that pic of the world at night from space - lights visible in the US, Europe, Japan and a few scattered major cities - everything else is dark.

Re:It may be small... (1)

nickname29 (1240104) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948277)

A lot of people don't leave their lights on during the day.

Re:It may be small... (2, Informative)

OpenSourceNut (1136825) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949061)

Here's another picture to look at..

http://williamwnekowicz.com/pictureoftheday/?p=40 [williamwnekowicz.com]

Those tarps are where people live. It's monsoon season in India.. they don't hold up very well in the rain.

Lucky (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23948097)

It does seem small, but you have to consider that most of the world doesn't live up to 'industrialized' and 'information age' standards of living. Its actually a pretty incredible number.

Lucky bastards!

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what's going to be said. But, if you have enough to eat, a place to live, and decent medical care, what else do you really need?

If it weren't for work, this internet connection would ripped out of the wall. Feb 17th, I'm probably not going to get a new TV - I use bunny ears, baby! No overpriced shit cable for me! So, I'll do without.

All this electronic shit just adds to my stress and it's making me unhappy.

I'd rather be happy and ignorant about World events, than miserable about shit I have no control over.

Re:Lucky (2, Funny)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948499)

"Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what's going to be said. But, if you have enough to eat, a place to live, and decent medical care, what else do you really need?"

Hookers!

:-)

But seriously...I don't need this stuff, and I don't need you. I don't need anything except this ashtray.

And that's it and that's the only thing I need, is this. I don't need this or this. Just this ashtray. And this paddle game, the ashtray and the paddle game and that's all I need. And this remote control. The ashtray, the paddle game, and the remote control, and that's all I need. And these matches. The ashtray, and these matches, and the remote control and the paddle ball. And this lamp. The ashtray, this paddle game and the remote control and the lamp and that's all I need. And that's all I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one - I need this. The paddle game, and the chair, and the remote control, and the matches, for sure. And this. And that's all I need. The ashtray, the remote control, the paddle game, this magazine and the chair.

And I don't need one other thing, except my dog.

[dog growls and barks]

I don't need my dog.

Re:Lucky (2, Informative)

dotancohen (1015143) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948895)


But seriously...I don't need this stuff, and I don't need you. I don't need anything except this ashtray.

You jerk. [wikipedia.org]

Re:It may be small... (1)

Djatha (848102) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948107)

Incredible it is, for sure. We all remember the days when the internet or the personal computer was just something new and exclusive. In just one or two decades the western world has integrated PCs and the internet into a new information society. A great change it was.

However, more interesting are the people who didn't catch up with this change in the western world, let alone outside of that small area. I fear that there exists an information gap and it is not closing for certain groups of people or even whole nations.

Am I pessimistic? To a point yes. I think that in an information society, information and information systems speed up the process of `informationising' and it will become more and more difficult, expensive and troublesome to accept or serve people living outside the information society.

So, although a huge number of people is on line already, it is not enough.

Re:It may be small... (2, Funny)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948393)

<Strangelove>
We must not let there be an information gap!
</Strangelove>

Re:Not small at all (2, Informative)

antirelic (1030688) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948163)

"IPv4 uses 32-bit (four-byte) addresses, which limits the address space to 4,294,967,296 (232) possible unique addresses. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4 [wikipedia.org]

Thats alot of people using a system that never really intended to accommodate such a massive volume of users.

Re:It may be small... (5, Insightful)

cunamara (937584) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948181)

But then again, roughly one half of the Earth's population lives on $3 per day or less. I would imagine that their priorities aren't broadband and a laptop. Not dying today from malnutrition might rqank a little higher on their priorities.

Re:It may be small... (1)

darthflo (1095225) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948777)

$3 per day is $91.43 per (average) month, enough for FiOS ($42.99) and a rather nicely configured ThinkPad (Business Leases starting at $31/mo). What else could one possibly want?
(Additional investments: Box (60 sheets) o' Kleenex: $2, Bottle (2oz) o' Neutrogena hand lotion: $4.) ;)

Re:It may be small... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23948849)

Don't forget your 10-15 loaves of bread!

They don't need bread (1)

JonnyCalcutta (524825) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949207)

Give a man a fish and he'll eat for day, teach him how surf and he'll get two medium pizzas, a bottle of pepsi and two free side dishes for just $9.99*.

And there's always enough left for breakfast.

*chicken dippers $1.00 supplement

Re:It may be small... (1)

Dolda2000 (759023) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948437)

Yes, I agree completely. To us Slashdot readers, it might be hard to imagine a world without broadband access to the Internet, but even disregarding the fact that the vast majority of the Earth's population just doesn't have the economy to consider playing around on the Internet, to people who aren't programmers, the Internet is almost exclusively just a way to communicate with other people. And, believe or not, but there are lots of other ways to do that.

To me, 25% seems almost incredibly much. I'd have already been surprised at 10%.

Re:It may be small... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23949623)

Forget the rest of the world for a second and just ask yourself about all the people you *know* who don't use the Internet, like grandparents who are tired of learning new things, stodgy rural people, etc.

If technology and its deployment were to stand still for the next 30 years, you would still see huge growth just from the generational shift.

1.8 Billion with a B (3, Insightful)

sweatyboatman (457800) | more than 6 years ago | (#23947935)

Seriously, it's just you.

Re:1.8 Billion with a B (0, Flamebait)

Richard Dick Head (803293) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949833)

Its a lot of people. The lower IQ countries tend to fall behind. Imagine when all of Ethiopia gets online. I can imagine it being somewhere between AOL+USENET and LOLcats


Is it just me... (4, Insightful)

debest (471937) | more than 6 years ago | (#23947979)

... or do you not realize how poor most of the planet is?

Eee etc... (1)

Dice Fivefold (640696) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948535)

Cheap portables like eee and olpc has only come recently, they will fall in price as production increases. Most people has access to TV today, these computers will soon be cheaper than a Tv-set. Just as many developing countries went straight to mobile phones, with no land lines first, most will probaly access the internet through mobile connections. Internet is just as helpful to a person in a poor country as it is to a westener. The estimate IS increadably small.

Re:Eee etc... (2, Informative)

schnikies79 (788746) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948707)

I don't think you realize the true definition of poor.

No one is going to by an Eee on $3/day. No matter what the price.

Re:Eee etc... (3, Informative)

dreamchaser (49529) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949873)

Most people in industrialized nations has access to TV today

There, fixed it for you.

Re:Is it just me... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23948657)

Yes, but now they can be poor online. That has to be some sort of an improvement.

Do they know about the porn? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23947985)

I think if the world knew about the Raunchy porn available on the internet, by 2012 at leat 98% of the planet would be online.

It is small, but... (2, Insightful)

tidewaterblues (784797) | more than 6 years ago | (#23947993)

Without seeing the survey I can't confirm this, but I would suspect that they are only counting Internet connections to the home or office. The number is much larger when you consider the number of people in developing and 3rd world nations who access the Internet in public venues, like cafes and libraries. But getting a good count here would be very complex.

Re:It is small, but... (3, Interesting)

OpenSourceNut (1136825) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948935)

I have yet to see an internet cafe here in India. Two types of people exist.. the ones with access to the internet because they work in software and make money.. and the day laborers who don't know what a computer is.

There is no middle ground. You will not see a day laborer hitting up a cafe to check his email. Just no.

Re:It is small, but... (1)

TroyM (956558) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949811)

I've been to Central America, and internet cafes are everywhere, and they're usually packed. Many people don't have a phone, but they do have a hotmail, gmail, or yahoo email account.

Is it just me or does that seem incredibly small? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23947999)

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!

Not small at all (2, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948001)

It's easy for us 1st world Westerners to forget what life is like most people in China, India, Africa, etc. Sure, things are getting better in those places, but that's only for the middle and upper class.

Re:Not small at all (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23948681)

its only getting better here for the upper classes too.............

Re:Not small at all (1)

mckorr (1274964) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948973)

Oh, you live in the United States?

Re:Not small at all (1)

The End Of Days (1243248) | more than 6 years ago | (#23950033)

Yeah, it's so hard to not be rich and still be lazy. Those assholes on top expect you to work before they pay you! Unbelievable.

Forcible redistribution of wealth from the industrious to the indigent is the only equitable solution.

Re:Not small at all (1)

Norwell Bob (982405) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948731)

It's easy for us 1st world Westerners to forget what life is like most people in China, India, Africa, etc. Sure, things are getting better in those places, but that's only for the middle and upper class.
And, in Nigeria, the widows of recently-assassinated Colonels.

It's not bad at all considering. (4, Informative)

jeiler (1106393) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948023)

About one quarter of the world doesn't have electricity. (1.6 B according to IEA [iea.org] , 2 B according to Greenpeace [greenpeace.org] ).

Re:It's not bad at all considering. (1)

DriedClexler (814907) | more than 6 years ago | (#23950005)

2 B according to Greenpeace
And I'm sure Greenpeace is making a VALIANT effort to ensure that those 2 billion people have steady, reliable source of electricity, right ;-)

25% of the Planet? (5, Funny)

iTowelie (1118013) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948029)

Isn't that all of us? I thought the Earth was covered by 75% water? iT

Re:25% of the Planet? (1)

Skeetskeetskeet (906997) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948087)

You forget, Aquaman and Sealab 2021 haven't gotten their hookup from Comcast yet..the tech is still asleep in the bathysphere.

Re:25% of the Planet? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23948345)

Well, considering we're 60% water, it kind of modifies your calculations...

Soylent Water (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23948427)

Well, considering we're 60% water, it kind of modifies your calculations...
In soviet russia, water is 60% YOU!

Re:25% of the Planet? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23950389)

Sir, you seem to not account for the fact that 90% of the planet would be under water by that time.

yes, it's small (2, Interesting)

xZgf6xHx2uhoAj9D (1160707) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948037)

According to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] , there are 1.407 billion people online in 2008. So they're predicting a 30% increase over 4 years? Considering in the 1990s we would have had a 1500% increase over 4 years (again, using Wikipedia as a source: 100% increase per year), that seems remarkably underwhelming.

IPv4 (2, Insightful)

smitty97 (995791) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948039)

So then 4,294,967,296 addresses should be enough for everybody

Re:IPv4 (1)

kellyb9 (954229) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948247)

If addresses were statically assigned to one person yes. But they aren't. I use one address at work, one address at home. Most people probably do. Then consider how many addresses are being used to the billions of servers floating out there. Considering all of this, it's amazing they've been able to stretch v4 so far with NAT and other techniques.

Re:IPv4 (1)

Norwell Bob (982405) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948647)

Sure, same with 640K!

Re:IPv4 (1)

Wiarumas (919682) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949935)

EveryBODY... but not everyTHING.

Jose (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23948061)

http://www.teamstoendpoverty.org/wq_pages/en/visages/chiffres.php

Maybe is because u live in a rich country and you dont know what is happening in the rest of the world.

Reality Check (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23948127)

Do you know what portion of the planet doesnt have clean running water? Or a reliable electricity supply? Any idea what portion of the planet exists on less than a dollar per day?

AC

Not a fair normalization... (4, Interesting)

Orleron (835910) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948143)

The number of people online divided by the world's population is a not fair comparison. Think of all the infants and toddlers that aren't online because they are too young, or all the people who are too disabled to use the Internet. Even if you theoretically included the people who didn't have electricity or money to get onto the 'net in the calculation, it still doesn't make sense to include those who are otherwise not physically able to use a computer if they had one. I would like to see the percentage of people on the 'net relative to the number of people who CAN be on the yet, as in physically able.

Re:Not a fair normalization... (1)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949427)

There's also a significant portion of older people who will never be on the net regardless of availability or price, because it's just an uncomfortable idea for them. Although it starts getting hard to measure, a more useful figure would be how many people who WANT internet access have it.

I had a neighbor for example who died a little less than a year ago. He was 98 at the time he passed. Despite being a very interesting man to talk to, technology just wasn't his thing. He generally didn't even watch television much less use a computer, despite DSL being available in the area (and shortly after he died I found out that his bank account balance was nearly $130,000, and he had no debt, so I doubt it was financially motivated to stay off the net either). (Off-topic) The most disappointing thing was he made it to 98 and didn't die of natural causes. He was still driving at that age, and when checking the mail one day his truck managed to slip out of gear (he likely bumped it getting in or out). When he tried to jump back in the open door knocked him down and the truck rolled over him.

And quite of a lot them... (1)

bhunachchicken (834243) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948147)

... will be using dial up.

Illiteracy (4, Informative)

onosson (1107107) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948189)

I thank the overall literacy rate must be related to this - even abundant access to a computer won't mean much if you can't read. According to the OLPC website [laptop.org] , "Most of the nearly twoâ"billion children in the developing world are inadequately educated, or receive no education at all. One in three does not complete the fifth grade." Also, let's not forget that much of the world does not have access to electricity on a regular basis. Also from the OLPC website [laptop.org] : "...XO can be recharged by human power. This is a critical advance for the half-billion children who have no access to electricity."

Not surprised. (1)

PalmKiller (174161) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948211)

When you consider that some people live in huts and hunt their food, food which varies from plants to animals to other people...it really don't seem odd that not everyone is surfing to me. In all seriousness though, very little of the planet can afford such frivolous things like the internet, or even running water for that matter.

Re:Not surprised. (1)

AutopsyReport (856852) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948501)

It is fascinating to see how far behind other areas of the world are. No electricity, no plumbing. They've never heard of the Internet before, and probably never a computer. And here we are, complaining about a lack of iPhone features and net neutrality.

You have to wonder -- by the time the rest of the world catches up to where we are today, where will we be?

So familiar... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23948233)

"Is it just me or does that seem incredibly small?"

God, you sound like my girlfriend...

Think about water scarcity (1)

elguillelmo (1242866) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948343)

According to the 2006 Human Development Report [undp.org] even if the Millennium Development Goal for water is achieved, "there will still be more than 800 million people without water and 1.8 billion people without sanitation in 2015" (page 4). Is it just me or does that seem outrageously big?

The other 3 quarters have made it to Mars! W00T (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23948369)

n/t

It's just you... (4, Insightful)

bushboy (112290) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948387)

... in reality, it's incredibly large!

Having lived in what is effectively a third world country, South African, for about 15 years, one thing is painfully obvious when compared with life in a first world country. The vast majority of people have little to no access to electricity, let alone the internet!

It's very hard to understand this unless you witness it first hand - it's all to easy to think "but surely everyone needs to be on the internet?"

The reality is for most of humanity, the struggle to put food on the plate and shelter themselves is the main driving force in their daily lives.

I'm therefore suprised at how many people are online, not how few - completely the opposite reaction to the parent.

Tool or toy. (4, Informative)

ROMRIX (912502) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948521)

Is it just me or does that seem incredibly small?

Firstly you need to think of how many third world countries there are and also developed nations where there is a vast agricultural society where the internet is just an irrelevant "fancy" for city dwellers to keep themselves entertained. You and I might find the internet a necessary tool for our trades and daily lives but going back 20 or 30 years, could you see yourself becoming so dependent on such a device as a people? Instant information and communication have become woven into the very fabric of who we are but there are many more people out there that simply have no use for it. It steals idle time like heroin steals life. You only need to walk away from it for a few days, or hours in some cases, to feel its draw. Many that have fell into its grasp cannot free themselves, their very livelihood depends on it. For others, the majority it seems, it is simply a useless tool or senseless toy to occupy the minds of those who have access to it. To them it's as useful as a canoe is to a desert goat herder.

Perspective (3, Funny)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948553)

It is just you. There are literally billions of people who have not heard of WoW, a MacBook, or your parents' basement. There IS a whole world out there, you know, in that room outside the server room, where the sky is sometimes blue and sometimes black with little white led lights, where the HVAC is on the blink half the time. You know that big room?

They are called BRIC (1)

cheekyboy (598084) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948759)

Those 4 countries are called BRIC countries.

Braz, Russ, India, China

No IPv6 needed anymore? (1)

egnop (531002) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948769)

anyone?

Legit users or just more spam ? (1)

billcopc (196330) | more than 6 years ago | (#23948959)

China, Russia, India and Brazil... is it a coincidence that those are the four main countries whose traffic I drop from my servers ? 99.44% of the traffic is spam, and the remainder is irrelevant to my business. If they love my snarky comments so much, they can use a proxy or VPN (yeah, right!)

Is Jupiter Research basically saying I need to unblock those folks ? Or are they really suggesting we'll have even more botnet slaves online by 2012 ?

Re:Legit users or just more spam ? (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949111)

"99.44% of the traffic is spam, and the remainder is irrelevant to my business."

then why do you even have an email address?

Re:Legit users or just more spam ? (1)

shyampandit (842649) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949679)

I'm from India and I could access your site just fine. Firewall rules need some work eh?

Re:Legit users or just more spam ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23949713)

Well, if you not unblocking them you will probably get out of business soon.
Those are the four new powerhouses of World's capitalism, the infamous BRIC (Acronym for Brazil, Russia, India and China).
Basically, those four countries are the most stable and fast growing economies in the world, right now.
I am an American expat living and working in Brazil, and you see the country becoming a super-power with your bare eyes.
While our Dow Jones and NASDAQ are falling, their Bovespa has became the third stock market in the world.
That is the point, man. Our fight for globalization, so we can bring down their tax restriction, worked against ourselves. Now, those newly-developed countries don't need our old USA anymore. They trade within themselves or between themselves.
So, welcome to the capitalism 21st century version. And open your servers to BRIC traffic, or soon you going to be like the rest of people in the United States: waiting on a welfare line for some Brazilian food, Chinese clothes, Indian doctors and Russian medicine...

Only 1.8 billion? (2, Informative)

geekoid (135745) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949091)

1.8 billion people online is fantastic. Sure we want more, but let's not forget that a whole lot of people!

1.8 billion people communicating outside there immediate sphere of influence. The lower the bar to knowledge, the better the global society will be.

Re:Only 1.8 billion? (1)

morari (1080535) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949689)

We want more? Who is we? The internet had gotten a lot worse in many ways as it has become more and more popular.

internet (1)

alxkit (941262) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949265)

damn it cisco - make more routers!

That seems about right. (1)

singingjim1 (1070652) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949501)

In the 21st Century when there are still Amazon tribes living in the stone age who've never seen a white man, people in Africa who still die from hunger, and societies where woman are treated worse than domestic animals; over 1 billion served on the Internet is an encouraging sign. The Internet has had an amazing expansion in it's relatively short life. If we can double it's usage in the NEXT 20 years then the world will be a much different place and a lot of us will still be around to see it. I'm actually encouraged by the numbers.

to put things in perspective (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23949729)

Only 53% of the world has cell phones. Only 51% of the world has running water. So 25% doesn't seem small at all.

Timeline 2012 (1)

belligerent0001 (966585) | more than 6 years ago | (#23949767)

December 24, 2012, Morning. - a full 25% of the population is now online

December 24, 2012, Afternoon. - Skynet goes live, and becomes self-aware

December 24, 2012, Evening. - Skynet decides to remove the virus known as mankind from the planet starting with the 25% most easily accessble, the 25% that is online.

December 25, 2012, Morning. - The Mayans are proven right, December 25, 2012 represents the end of the civilization

Re: Only One Quarter of the Planet To Be Online... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23949791)

It's just you.

re: Only One Quarter of the Planet To Be Online By (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23949805)

I was in India last year, and while everyone even in the countryside has an e-mail address, they check it once every week or two, when have a few extra rupees to head to an Internet shop. I wonder if these people are counted?

It's just you. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23949937)

Probably because you were raised retarded.

Incredible (1)

tobiasly (524456) | more than 6 years ago | (#23950381)

These numbers are simply unacceptable. With all these free services such as Gmail, Twitter, and NetZero, the failure of all these people to go get their free Internets can only be attributed to laziness.
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