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Firefox Breaks 8 Million, Gets Into Guinness

CmdrTaco posted about 6 years ago | from the right-next-to-the-worlds-fattest-motercycle-twins dept.

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Punkster812 writes "Mozilla has gotten the results back from the Guinness World Records and the official number that will be set as the record is 8,002,530 downloads. The day started out a little rough for them, with server troubles during the initial launch, but once they got everything going, they were able to transfer 62,419,734 MB in 24 hours. You can get more information, including a breakdown of how many downloads each country did from around the world, by visiting spreadfirefox.com. Congratulations, Mozilla, on the new record."

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199 comments

Obligatory UserFriendly comic (5, Funny)

jeiler (1106393) | about 6 years ago | (#24043185)

Speaking of obligatory webcomic references (5, Funny)

john83 (923470) | about 6 years ago | (#24043373)

lame (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24043187)

MS surely gets more downloads. Adobe gets more downloads.

Re:lame (3, Insightful)

gparent (1242548) | about 6 years ago | (#24043271)

Considering Internet Explorer ships with Windows and most often is forced on users with automatic updates, this is hardly surprising. At least Firefox users choose to download it. (And yes, I know you can turn auto updates off).

Re:lame (3, Insightful)

berwiki (989827) | about 6 years ago | (#24043575)

yea but seriously, what does this number even mean??

I doubt exactly, 8,002,530 people installed it and are using it. You know there were plenty of anti-microsoft nerds who downloaded it 50 times each.

We might as well just stick to bandwidth measurements, in which case YouTube would smash the above record.

I'm happy FF 3.0 is out and all, but I don't really see the big deal in this number.

Re:lame (5, Informative)

learningtree (1117339) | about 6 years ago | (#24044819)

The SpearFirefox FAQ [spreadfirefox.com] clearly states that the download count does not include duplicate downloads, incomplete downloads or downloads done through Firefox updates.

Re:lame (1)

berwiki (989827) | about 6 years ago | (#24045113)

Their intentions may have been grand, but I've done a lot of 'sciency' stuff over the years, and false-positive rates for a web-counter like that are usually pretty high.

Re:lame (1)

C_Kode (102755) | about 6 years ago | (#24043649)

Downloading updates and downloading a full product is two different things. You're not Getting Internet Explorer when you download updates. You're only downloading updates to something you already have. You *are* getting Firefox, then you download Firefox 3.

Re:lame (3, Informative)

gparent (1242548) | about 6 years ago | (#24043759)

I was referring to Internet Explorer 7 on Windows XP, which is pushing as an automatic update now if I'm not mistaken.

Re:lame (1)

gparent (1242548) | about 6 years ago | (#24043783)

Nevermind, I realise what you mean now.

Re:lame (1)

C_Kode (102755) | about 6 years ago | (#24043833)

"Ahh, I see" said the blind man.

Re:lame (0, Redundant)

yammosk (861527) | about 6 years ago | (#24044607)

"Ahh, I see" said the blind man.

Who picked up his hammer and saw.

Arbitrary but impressive (5, Insightful)

jbarr (2233) | about 6 years ago | (#24043197)

It appears that this is the first recorded record by Guinness Book, so it's kind of arbitrary, however shuttling 62TB of data is pretty impressive. Now that the gauntlet has been thrown down, it'll be interesting to see if other software companies will try to compete. If nothing else, this gave Firefox some much-needed press.

Re:Arbitrary but impressive (0)

Hatta (162192) | about 6 years ago | (#24043419)

That's 722 MB/s.

Re:Arbitrary but impressive (0)

ConceptJunkie (24823) | about 6 years ago | (#24043799)

Probably the next Microsoft service pack will blow it out of the water by a factor of 10.

Re:Arbitrary but impressive (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24044281)

Probably the next Microsoft service pack will blow it out of the water by a factor of 10.

Maybe, but does it really qualify when the downloads are automated by scripts (windows update scheduling)?

Re:Arbitrary but impressive (1)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | about 6 years ago | (#24044421)

In a 24 hour period?

Re:Arbitrary but impressive (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24045013)

My vote is for /. posting an article with a link to free Anime porn.

Re:Arbitrary but impressive (3, Informative)

ozphx (1061292) | about 6 years ago | (#24044785)

Theres a few references to Adobe Flash being downloaded 10 million times on an average tuesday.

Its a gold medal when you are the only one competing.

Congrats on breaking the non-existent record (4, Insightful)

TheRedSeven (1234758) | about 6 years ago | (#24043201)

Seriously, this is a great thing. But considering that no record existed previously, it's not exactly earth-shattering. I look to see this record broken with subsequent launches, as more and more people have access to the internet, and as Mozilla gains more share. Also, 7.7 million of the total came from the US. It would be great to see a larger overseas distribution, especially considering the pledges that were signed in places like Africa.

Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record (2, Funny)

gparent (1242548) | about 6 years ago | (#24043255)

You could pick the country you signed the pledge from. Many people picked Africa for shits and giggles.

Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24043339)

Protip: Africa is not a country.

Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record (5, Funny)

mark72005 (1233572) | about 6 years ago | (#24043513)

Those pinkos didn't put America on there either!

Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record (1)

gparent (1242548) | about 6 years ago | (#24043709)

Obviously I meant African countries.

Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record (1)

beav007 (746004) | about 6 years ago | (#24043959)

This factoid was sponsored by Drew Careys "Whose Line is it Anyway".

Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record (4, Insightful)

ergo98 (9391) | about 6 years ago | (#24043275)

Also, 7.7 million of the total came from the US

I don't think the map below the entry charts just the downloads on download day, given that simply adding Canada (at 790,624 actually comprising more per capita than the US) puts it far over their record count.

Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record (3, Insightful)

Slashidiot (1179447) | about 6 years ago | (#24044227)

Yes, you are right. Also, talking about per capita, is there somewhere a list of downloads per capita en each country? That would be nice to know, as total downloads mean very little (yeah, of course here in luxembourg we had very few downloads, the country is tiny!)

Some random (a bit biased) selection of countries with downloads per capita (x1000). Data comes from the Spread Firefox webpage [spreadfirefox.com] and population from wikipedia [wikipedia.org]

Canada 23.74
US 25.40
Germany 30.00
UK 19.79
France 15.19
Spain 17.90
Luxembourg 36.72

Now, this tells me more than just downloads per country. Now Luxembourg looks better :).

Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record (1)

ergo98 (9391) | about 6 years ago | (#24044467)

Huh...Canada is 1/9th the size of the US now. Wow, where are all these people coming from? For time eternal I've comfortably held onto the idea that we were 1/10th.

Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record (1)

edalytical (671270) | about 6 years ago | (#24043289)

Presumably there was a time when no record existed for every record. It all has to start somewhere...

Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record (5, Informative)

rugatero (1292060) | about 6 years ago | (#24043311)

Also, 7.7 million of the total came from the US

No, 7.7m is the current figure. The US downloaded 2.5m [amiworks.co.in] of the 8m on Download Day.

Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record (1)

Daimanta (1140543) | about 6 years ago | (#24043415)

"Also, 7.7 million of the total came from the US. It would be great to see a larger overseas distribution, especially considering the pledges that were signed in places like Africa.
"

Indeed, there were a few hundred pledges from North-Korea. Anyone who knows anything about the state of the NK internet knows that it is a closed circuit.

Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record (1)

Goaway (82658) | about 6 years ago | (#24043493)

Also, 7.7 million of the total came from the US.

No. 7.7 million of some other total came from the US. Adding up the numbers on the map gets a much higher result than the 8.0 million total mentioned, so the fraction of those that came from the US is likely quite a bit lower than 7.7 million.

Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record (1)

Res3000 (890937) | about 6 years ago | (#24044213)

You could also take a look at the total download count (around 29 million right now).

But considering they claim they have 180 million users that's still not a lot.

Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record (1)

Vectronic (1221470) | about 6 years ago | (#24044479)

I look to see this record broken with subsequent launches, as more and more people have access to the internet, and as Mozilla gains more share.

What? only Mozilla related products can break the record?

WinAmp, has probably beaten this record, possibly more than once. I bet MSN Live beat it (when they forced the upgrade over MSN 7.5) iTunes, probably has, and probably a lot of other software that has notifications for new versions. The problem is, you have to actually participate, and get the Guiness people to come watch, and set up special shit on your servers, so I dont really see that many companies clamoring to beat the record, it was just a publicity stunt.

Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record (1)

johnw (3725) | about 6 years ago | (#24044557)

Also, 7.7 million of the total came from the US.

Not true! The US is showing a current total of 7.7 million downloads, but that's out of a current world total of 29 million. I couldn't find a figure for how many out of the original 8 million were in the US, but it seems unlikely that all the US users did their download in the first 24 hours and then nobody in the US has downloaded it since.

Good work! (3, Insightful)

gparent (1242548) | about 6 years ago | (#24043223)

An excellent move for Mozilla. Although I'm sure a lot of these downloads were from existent Firefox 1.5/2 users, I'm sure some of the people using Internet Explorer jumped on the FF bandwagon. Less spyware, better browsing, less bullshit. Good work.

Re:Good work! (4, Interesting)

ergo98 (9391) | about 6 years ago | (#24043509)

I'm sure some of the people using Internet Explorer jumped on the FF bandwagon.

It has been several years since there was a justifiable, logical reason to stick with Internet Explorer (this isn't flamebait, oh holy Microsoft defenders, but the truth is that Microsoft just stopped caring about the browser market, and innovation dried up. IE 7 was a groaner, and IE 8 thus far is shaping up to be more of the same), so aside from pushing Firefox into people's awareness via gimmicks like this Guinness Record, it isn't like they just need to add that one last feature for it to be compelling.

If people are still using Internet Explorer, it can only be explained as ignorance or complacency.

While I hate to go there, at this point I think we need to see some apps that require Firefox (which isn't so onerous. Unlike demanding Internet Explorer, which intrinsically also demands Windows, usually at a contemporary version, Firefox runs on just about everything, and installing it doesn't change or screw with a properly running system). Offline app support, the canvas element, alongside numerous other web app bits and pieces, it really is the platform that Marc Andreesson [yafla.com] was promising a decade+ prematurely.

Re:Good work! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24044081)

If people are still using Internet Explorer, it can only be explained as ignorance or complacency.

Also to avoid the administrative hassle of a separate update mechanism, for better integration into Windows (why isn't Firefox inheriting global system settings for half the stuff in Options?) and to not have to hear OSS blowhards such as yourself.

So, answer: Why should the average end user choose Firefox over IE?

I don't want to hear "more standards-compliant rendering!" because that's the web developer's problem, and any popular non-geek site would not dare to render badly in IE.

I don't want to hear "more secure!" because this isn't 2003 any more, and (1) an up-to-date IE7 is not holey; (2) running antivirus is a no-brainer on Windows anyway, IE or FF.

I don't want to hear "leaner!" because I regularly deploy old, free PCs and it's always Firefox that kicks off the thrashing and forces me to have to recommend that people try re-opening in IE.

I don't want to hear "extensions!" because, while geeks love to tweak, most users are happy with.. well.. getting on with the business of reading content their browser supplies. I never hear "I wish it would let me do blah..." of a browser from the average user any more than I see people attaching a million "extensions" to regular paperbacks to improve the "reading experience". Possibly a bookmark, and a pair of glasses; everything else is built-in to the human body.

Thanks for the arrogance (5, Insightful)

kiwimate (458274) | about 6 years ago | (#24044137)

If people are still using Internet Explorer, it can only be explained as ignorance or complacency.

Or personal preference. I downloaded Firefox about a year ago, tried it alongside IE for several weeks, determined there were parts I liked, parts I didn't, and ultimately made the decision that I preferred IE. It's nice to have a choice, and I have made my pick. Others picked something else, whether it be Firefox, Opera, or something entirely different. Fine. Good for them. I don't care because I have my browsing experience the way I want it and that's all I really care about.

If Firefox works for you, hurrah. I'm not so smug and condescending that I'm going to start calling you names. Just let me have what I prefer and we're all happy. I don't care if you think I made a poor or even stupid decision, in much the same way as I don't care if a Honda driver thinks I shouldn't be driving a Toyota. Isn't that the whole point: for people to have choices and be able to choose what they prefer?

Re:Thanks for the arrogance (3, Interesting)

ergo98 (9391) | about 6 years ago | (#24044411)

I certainly didn't intend any holy war (though I got a chuckle out of the other poster calling me an "OSS blowhard": I'm the guy that has been called a Microsoft shill / astroturfer so many times on here that I started wearing it as a badge. I suppose zealots on either side attempt to strengthen their argument by exaggerating the positions they disagree with)

I don't care if you think I made a poor or even stupid decision, in much the same way as I don't care if a Honda driver thinks I shouldn't be driving a Toyota.

Honda and Toyota? In the browser market, that analogy works better with a Firefox / Opera / Safari battle: All top tier browsers, each having compelling attributes.

Internet Explorer is not a top tier browser. It is akin to buying a unreliable, poor mileage, quickly depreciating car just because that's the brand that Pappy liked back when it was good, and you're too complacent and comfortable to change.

Re:Thanks for the arrogance (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24044631)

Allow me to give you something else to chew on: if you're still using Internet Explorer, you are willfully placing a lot of burden on web developers across the globe. That can be seen as ignorant, arrogant or complacent as well. Assuming you're techno-literate, we can scratch the ignorant excuse. Especially if you put statements like this in your response:

I don't care because I have my browsing experience the way I want it and that's all I really care about.

Other than that, freedom of choice is a wonderful thing...

Just thing of all... (2, Funny)

dwiget001 (1073738) | about 6 years ago | (#24043259)

the chairs that died to bring us this news....

MS beats this every patch Tuesday (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24043279)

But I congratulate the corrupt organisation which uses a profit-making subsidiary for revenue but a non-profit to shelter from tax and give the appearance of a charity.

Re:MS beats this every patch Tuesday (1)

hasbeard (982620) | about 6 years ago | (#24043859)

Well, just for the record, this was not a security patch. The record was set by individuals who chose to download Firefox.

well done, but... (1)

lampsie (830980) | about 6 years ago | (#24043333)

Congratulations to them on this success, but a shame a little more attention wasn't paid to making sure everyone knew when the hell to download - I suspect the 8mil could have been surpassed given a little more planning. But how and ever, well done :)

RichResults (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24043353)

RichResults suck, it doesn't Clear it's data when you tell the browser to Clear Private Data.
Try it.

North Korea (4, Interesting)

courteaudotbiz (1191083) | about 6 years ago | (#24043357)

Funny... nobody from North Korea downloaded Firefox 3.

Re:North Korea (5, Funny)

Absolutexero (1126491) | about 6 years ago | (#24043491)

That's because people in North Korea are evil, the videos of them in black and white are not actually filmed in b/w, they're just so evil, they have no color.... at least that's what Lewis Black said anyway

Re:North Korea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24043503)

I noticed, too. But Greenland? 482. Take that, North Korea!

Iran vs Saudi Arabia (2, Funny)

diegocn (1109503) | about 6 years ago | (#24043537)

Amazingly Iran has far more download than Saudi. No wonder being an US ally sucks.

Re:Iran vs Saudi Arabia (1)

maxume (22995) | about 6 years ago | (#24043847)

That doesn't even make any sense (here be a hint: each and every NATO country is a US ally).

Re:North Korea (1)

4D6963 (933028) | about 6 years ago | (#24043845)

Funny... nobody from North Korea downloaded Firefox 3.

You mean THAT [globalsecurity.org] country? Yeah, really, how surprising. Last time I saw them on TV, they hardly had any teeth, let alone electricity.

Re:North Korea (1)

courteaudotbiz (1191083) | about 6 years ago | (#24043943)

A picture is worth a thousand words... North Korean people are really green, they shut their cities lights at night!

Re:North Korea (1)

ljgshkg (1223086) | about 6 years ago | (#24045111)

That's actually a good thing. Light is very distrubing at night sometimes. I always complain there's too much light around so I can't really see the stars anywhere near home.

Re:North Korea (1)

hasbeard (982620) | about 6 years ago | (#24043919)

Yeah, I noticed that too. Does the North Korea government even allow citizens to have computers? I doubt it.

Re:North Korea (1)

legoman666 (1098377) | about 6 years ago | (#24044083)

even if they had one, what does one do on a computer without internet?

Re:North Korea (5, Funny)

kalirion (728907) | about 6 years ago | (#24044099)

Minesweeper.

Re:North Korea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24044777)

Hmm... even though the country is lead by an Internet expert [foxnews.com] .

Windows Update? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24043361)

I wonder how downloads Windows Update gets every patch Tuesday? Automated downloads, but downloads none the less.

Re:Windows Update? (1)

tonycheese (921278) | about 6 years ago | (#24044143)

I'm not exactly sure how they could possibly differentiate for Firefox downloads, but it stated on the website that they had to be user-initiated downloads, so automatic updates from Microsoft wouldn't fit the bill.

Re:Windows Update? (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | about 6 years ago | (#24044491)

I would imagine that it would be more counted on number of downloads of a new software product, and not updates to an existing product that people already had installed.

Obligitory terrible joke... (5, Funny)

hbean (144582) | about 6 years ago | (#24043383)

Its amazing that over 300k people downloaded firefox from russia, despite the fact that in soviet russia, firefox downloads you. /groan

Another obligitory terrible joke... (1)

ya really (1257084) | about 6 years ago | (#24044781)

In Soviet Russia, Firefox keeps tabs on YOU.

Re:Obligitory terrible joke... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24045047)

You forgot to click on "Other Stats" on the downloads per country page:

People downloaded by Firefox:

United States..... 0
Canada............ 0
France............ 0
Spain............. 0
Soviet Russia..... 8,548,674

As Usual Ziff Davis Is Silent On This Major Story (1, Funny)

Skeetskeetskeet (906997) | about 6 years ago | (#24043385)

Fuck you ZDNet.

Previous Guiness Record (1)

Skeet112 (1088203) | about 6 years ago | (#24043423)

Firefox has finally beaten the previous Guiness record of Porn being downloaded 8,000,365 times in one day? Wow, that's some caveat.

Afghanistan (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24043483)

It is great that they have had this many downloads but is it wise to support our terrorist friends in Afghanistan. They had 875 downloads. Now 875 children and puppies are going to die!

Download Stats (1)

Necreia (954727) | about 6 years ago | (#24043507)

Very interesting results if you check them out. I found this funny:

(Downloads)
China? 72,154
South Korea? 148,006
...
North Korea? 0

Re:Download Stats (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24043785)

Guinea-bissau: 19

Anyone who knows those guys...?

Re:Download Stats (1)

garcia (6573) | about 6 years ago | (#24043965)

What I found funny was that I got an e-mail in my inbox thanking me for my participation in the download day but the name was already filled out for me [spreadfirefox.com] .

Re:Download Stats (3, Interesting)

cyfer2000 (548592) | about 6 years ago | (#24044531)

there were some evil companies packaged their evil extensions (addons?) with firefox and tricked people to download in China some time ago. So the brand name of Firefox is not so good in China.

One of the lucky ones (0, Flamebait)

Ted Freeman (1319075) | about 6 years ago | (#24043529)

I didn't need to download anything. IE7 comes with Vista.

So? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24043559)

I've been into Guinn

Imagine if their servers were up the entire time? (1)

blahbooboo (839709) | about 6 years ago | (#24043609)

It took me several hours after the starting time to get a download working. Anyone else have similar trouble?

I wonder how high it would have been with more servers!

It is not a sign of success, really. (4, Interesting)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | about 6 years ago | (#24043627)

The real sign of success or progress would be when OEMs pre-install FireFox. I don't understand why the OEMs are so timid and still so tied to MSFT.

Imagine what preloading FireFox could do to the brand-differentiation of Dell or HP. Why do they not try this obvious move but insist on fighting on price? What really is in the undisclosed agreements between the big name PC vendors and MSFT? What it would take for them to break out?

Re:It is not a sign of success, really. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24043811)

Something on the lines of "install only MS-software on all your sold computers, or face non-oem prices on all MS-software"

Re:It is not a sign of success, really. (1)

LO0G (606364) | about 6 years ago | (#24044533)

Replying to an AC == bad, but...

Somehow I doubt MSFT is doing that any more. The last time they tried it, a court decided that they were an illegal monopoly and MSFT is STILL dealing with the fallout of that decision.

I suspect the DoJ would have some serious words with MSFT if they were strong-arming their OEMs to prevent them from installing FF.

My suspicion is that the real issue is exactly what some of the other respondants have mentioned:
Nobody is paying the computer manufacturers to install Firefox, so they're not bothering to install Firefox.

No conspiracy needed.

Just the facts... (1)

Frosty Piss (770223) | about 6 years ago | (#24043941)

The real sign of success or progress would be when OEMs pre-install FireFox. I don't understand why the OEMs are so timid and still so tied to MSFT.

The problem is that most (if not all) OEMs are stricly business. There has been no measurable outcry from their customers (who can download it anyway), and Microsoft pays them to include IE on the desktop.

So, how about Google - I mean Mozilla - pay OEMs too? That's the only way you'll see it pre-installed.

I would call it a sucess.. (2, Insightful)

Junta (36770) | about 6 years ago | (#24043963)

That the actual end users explicitly seek out a piece of software, rather than settle for a defacto standard. Having users because they are too lazy to replace what the OEM gave them is, in my opinion, not as impressive.

As to the OEMs, there is the possibility of a kickback from MS from using IE exclusively, just like other 'free software', but I would think that would perhaps be too brazen considering the whole anti-trust thing.

Another possibility is a deep seated fear of distributing open-source software that seems to pervade these companies. Dell at least should be over it since it ships linux pre-installed, but then again, lawyers can insist that though the codebase is the same, they need to be paid to review different uses of it.

And finally, there is the possibility they believe it really not worth their time to bother. Would you *honestly* choose one brand over another *just* because of firefox being pre-installed, even if the firefox one is more expensive? It would take some work to migrate their crapware platform to make sure things work with firefox that would cost more than zero dollars. Meanwhile, the customers probably aren't looking for that explicitly, since they by and large can just download it truly for free themselves. Pre-install of linux is one thing, it gives an assurance about the hardware choices with respect to linux drivers, but Firefox is just a browser.

Re:It is not a sign of success, really. (2, Funny)

f8l_0e (775982) | about 6 years ago | (#24043975)

It's not Microsoft they're worried about pissing off. Network Associates and Symantec pay OEMs good money to pre-install McAfee and NAV. If you promote a browser less likely to get a machine infected, and the 90 day trial AV doesn't intercept an infection, the AV makers have no reason to advertise their software on your machine.

Re:It is not a sign of success, really. (1)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | about 6 years ago | (#24044075)

Imagine what preloading FireFox could do to the brand-differentiation of Dell or HP.

I'm imagining a big white cloud of nothing. Who buys their computer based on what browser is preloaded? Should the computer manufacturers scream in their ads about it? Is that really going to convince the masses to buy Brand X over Brand Y even beyond price, memory, disk space, etc?

They can't (honestly) tout security, considering IE is just as secure as Firefox these days. IE has tabs, which was Firefox's only useful feature to the masses. It seems to be slightly faster than IE these days, but not so much that you'd notice (and sometimes I notice IE is faster, and yes, I use both regularly).

And then remember that Firefox has been horribly broken prior to version 3 as far as memory usage. Fortunately, that seems to be (FINALLY) fixed, at least for me (knock on wood).

OEMs are in business to make money. Everything that is changed about a computer configuration adds a certain number of support headaches. If Firefox offers no clear, compelling advantages to average users, and everyone who wants it can download it for free instantly upon opening the box, why would they increase their support costs?

Re:It is not a sign of success, really. (1)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | about 6 years ago | (#24044147)

I disagree. OEM adoption has little to do with the successfulness or merit of software.

Just look at all the crapware that OEMs bundle. Mozilla.org can join with the elite if they pay the requisite bribes.

Asus bundles Firefox with the EeePC. Is that good enough?

Re:It is not a sign of success, really. (1)

The MAZZTer (911996) | about 6 years ago | (#24044295)

I assumed Dell preinstalled Firefox 2 on someone's computer I was cleaning up for them, since 1) it was Dell and 2) it had Firefox 2.0.0.1 instead of the then-latest 2.0.0.14 and 3) it looked like it had never been run.

^__^ (3, Insightful)

WoggyMumma (1215972) | about 6 years ago | (#24043629)

Someone make a map like that but base it on percentage of population.

You know... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24043641)

I was into the Guinness before I even broke any records...

Are they counting source-code downloads too? (2, Funny)

mi (197448) | about 6 years ago | (#24043675)

Pre-built binaries are for wussies — real women and men build from source [freshports.org] .

Re:Are they counting source-code downloads too? (1)

john83 (923470) | about 6 years ago | (#24043983)

Pah! Real men write the binary by hand, using the source code as a reference.

Re:Are they counting source-code downloads too? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24044159)

Yeah, if by "real men" you mean pansies.
Back in my day, you couldn't earn your coding street cred without coding directly onto an exposed hard drive using a magnetized needle and a steady hand. That is, of course, if you don't have any butterflies [xkcd.com] handy.

Holy shit! (2, Funny)

LordKaT (619540) | about 6 years ago | (#24043733)

Russia's huge!

Re:Holy shit! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#24044317)

that's what yo momma said. -russia aka your real dad

french guiana in need of stone (3, Funny)

jessica_alba (1234100) | about 6 years ago | (#24043789)

With their main industries being fishing, gold mining and timber they are unable to build a castle and advance to the internet age, hence their zero d/l stats.

Re:french guiana in need of stone (1)

girasquid (1234570) | about 6 years ago | (#24044457)

You know, that reminds me of a game I played once. The memory's a bit hazy, but I remember that the game was sweet.

Brilliance (3, Interesting)

kanweg (771128) | about 6 years ago | (#24044215)

And it is not just that the Firefox programmers are brilliant and creative.

In its own way one should acknowledge the strategic brilliance of the way the record was planned. By being US centric (as in, failing to recognise that there is something like human beings abroad), the 24 hour period was set to start such that people in countries like NZ, AU and JP were frustrated in not seeing the new version when the due date arrived, (or downloaded old stuff, ha ha). For those who waited, they were joined by hoards of Europeans and Brits (I'm sure they appreciate this gesture) who had to wait until the evening before they could join the Americans to swamp the servers. Those Europeans who gave up before local 12 PM and didn't realise that they could still help to set the record by downloading it in the morning, also failed to add to the number of copies downloaded. So, in short, the Mozilla organisation has made it easy for themselves to beat their own record, provided they are brilliant enough to recognise the rude brilliance of the first record attempt.

Bert

Guinness (1)

Ilan Volow (539597) | about 6 years ago | (#24044223)

When I get into Guiness, the next day I'm hungover and in no position to code. How they managed to achieve eight million downloads is beyond me.

Re:Guinness (1)

Slashidiot (1179447) | about 6 years ago | (#24044363)

But Guiness is good for you!

Impressive considering... (2, Funny)

y00tz (952744) | about 6 years ago | (#24044375)

The previous record holder was the Paris Hilton tape.

Pfft. (-1, Redundant)

DeVilla (4563) | about 6 years ago | (#24044473)

Big deal. Microsoft gets more downloads every Tuesday.

Svalbard and Jan Mayen, 0 download places (1)

EnOne (786812) | about 6 years ago | (#24044713)

Since the users on Svalbard and Jan Mayen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_and_Jan_Mayen [wikipedia.org]
use the .no extension do they get included with Norway. Is this why they have 0 downloads or were there truly no downloads?

Other 0 download countries: Western Sahara, North Korea, Timor-leste, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands

New Firefox is Good and Bad (0, Flamebait)

Petersko (564140) | about 6 years ago | (#24045017)

Good - This is the very first version of Firefox that didn't crash on me in the first half hour (or at all yet, three hours and counting). The last one was the only piece of misbehaving software on my system, and after half a day and at least a dozen crashes I gave up on it. Bad - I had no choice. It insisted on being my default browser. That's one of the indicators of bad software. That's not "Quicktime" bad, mind you, but it's a terrible choice nonetheless. In the end it's still my number 3. I use Opera quite often - in fact I much prefer Opera to Firefox. My "most often used" browser is still IE7. Go ahead and flame me.

Will it let me upload? (Testing) (0)

billsf (34378) | about 6 years ago | (#24045077)

The source build I have made on BSD works beautifully and if you see this, the failed submission is one of those 'sometimes happens' bugs. I've had v3 in its pre-released forms for some time. Perhaps it got a bit rushed for this publicity stunt? The Windows version I got, bombed on a new, fully patched install from some bad flash code. Fortunately 'ad-block' to the rescue.

It may not be perfect, but its by far the best. I'd like to see Mozilla Foundation concentrate more on quality than quantity, but marketing reality means one enhances the other. I guess an 'awareness drive' (publicity stunt) from time to time is good, but everyone should know by now there is probably nothing on the entire net that has more mass appeal than 'free' Firefox binaries.

Here goes the test....
          Looking good, no bug confirmed.

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